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By that same token, plenty of FF characters don't add much. Sephiroth outstayed his welcome.I mean, if i HAD to, there's any number of minor Disney characters who do literally nothing, lol. Sorry, Clara Cluck fans...
KH3 already killed the FF characters and ReMIND sealed in the deal that IF they ever come back, they will be meaningless cameos that get sidelined for Sora. Hell, even in episode RIKU, (Data) Sora still took the show.By that same token, plenty of FF characters don't add much. Sephiroth outstayed his welcome.
What the hellAnd don't say Xion
Speaking of FF characters, I would be tempted to also erase Setzer if I could. As a big FFVI fan, I didn't like his portrayal in KH2 very much, particulary his trying to bribe Roxas into throwing the Struggle match.
Ok I agree With Roxas and namine, but Terra and Ventus? The story of birth by sleep was merely about Those two and their connection with Xehanort, if there is no Ventus Terra or Aqua, if one of those 3 is missing then there won’t be a birth by sleep story to begin with.I could make a list on why Roxas, Namine, Terra, Ventus, and Vanitas don't need to exist either as the lore beforehand ran smoothly without them. I won't do that because I'm glad all these characters exist. Roxas is my favorite character and has my favorite story, despite how little impact it has on the overall series. And I've really grown to love and appreciate Terra and Ventus. I don't want to get rid of any of these characters. I want to see them all grow and continue.
In fairness, I two that removing two of TAV from BBS would more fundamentally change the plot than removing, say, Roxas from KH2. In KH2 you could still have Sora fighting the Organization and searching for Riku, though Roxas brings a great emotional punch and I wouldn't remove him."I agree with kh2 being a totally different story, but bbs being a totally different story?"
Yes, these stories would change. They would change to a different story because writers would write them.
Real talk tho, Roxas is one of the reasons that made kingdom hearts explode in popularity, he was soo popular that he got a full game to himself, ofc there are many reasons why kingdom hearts is popular, like having final fantasy characters and Disney worlds, however Roxas Axel and the organization are one of the main reasons why kingdom hearts 2 was a success, if it was still just Sora Donald and Goofy then no one would have taken the series seriously, Roxas was soo serious and realistic and much more interesting as a character, enough reason to make people stick around and crave for more.Actually, thinking about it, the concept of "you can remove Roxas/Xion/Ventus and have almost the same story and it would just be a simpler one"...
What crazy new character was erased out of KH3 to make it so simple compared to those previous games?
I'm playing devil's advocate here, so keep that in mind. They already had material for a Xehanort prequel game prime and ready with Apprentice Xehanort in Radiant Garden. They already had a solid story with Xehanort, Ansem, and the RG scientist that had nothing to do with the BBS cast. Terra and his backstory didn't need to be part of it, as it never even matches up with the KH2 story. As for Ventus They keep trying to make him feel more important then he actually is, to the point of shoehorning him into Union X as if to reboot the character, after he wasn't popular enough to be the real Roxas. Again I was playing devil's advocate I fully support the inclusion of the BBS cast and have grown very fond of TAV, Vanitas and Master Xehanort over the years. I would not erase any of them personally.Ok I agree With Roxas and namine, but Terra and Ventus? The story of birth by sleep was merely about Those two and their connection with Xehanort, if there is no Ventus Terra or Aqua, if one of those 3 is missing then there won’t be a birth by sleep story to begin with.
Splitting hairs but I think Ventus is made to 'feel important' because Nomura wants him to be important in the story. Honestly I think that's less of a problem than making characters feel more important due to their popularity, the best example of which would be AxelAs for Ventus They keep trying to make him feel more important then he actually is, to the point of shoehorning him into Union X as if to reboot the character, after he wasn't popular enough to be the real Roxas. Again I was playing devil's advocate I fully support the inclusion of the BBS cast and have grown very fond of TAV, Vanitas and Master Xehanort over the years. I would not erase any of them personally.
I agree with you Dast on the Nomura thing, but you can say that about any KH character in the series. Axel's popularity is a double edge sword and it seems any idea Nomura tries to give him there will be backlash that 'He's only getting it because he's popular' complaint. Axel being connected to this Subject X character is no less shoehorned then Ventus being from the Union X era, it's just people have had time to let Ven's sink in more and it wasn't last minute like Subject X was. but it does the same thing of setting up a future even for the series. Axel's problem isn't being popular, it's the bad writing he's been given since DDD and becoming too much of a parody of KH fans by KH3. A character that is popular shouldn't be automatically frowned upon due to how popular they are especially if they have a good story and good writing. It's just Axel is lacking the latter right now ever since he became Lea.Splitting hairs but I think Ventus is made to 'feel important' because Nomura wants him to be important in the story. Honestly I think that's less of a problem than making characters feel more important due to their popularity, the best example of which would be Axel
If you take sora out of Kingdom Hearts, I am leaving the forums and will quit playing Kingdom Hearts.
but why, you say?
well here is why:
Sora is a main character, if he was wiped, the series would become very stupid, and sooner than later, it will be hated.