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Puck

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OblivionRKO4 said:
I felt really bad for Saix when he was pleading for a heart...plus when somebody(Xemnas or Saix someone help me out here!) asked sora why they hated those without hearts he was like Cuz your screwin up our worlds!! Yah then i was like dang easy killer....kinda harsh

Actually, it was Riku who said that they were screwing up the worlds. It was during the scene where they confronted Xemnas at the top of the castle.
 

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Most of them still deserved to die. They were bad because they tried to kill Sora and they really screwed up the world. Roxas and Axel were the only two good one in the Organization.
 

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Haku said:
1.They ruined DiZ's life

2.Xemnas wanted nothing more then to be overgrown with power from the heart

3.Xaldin messed with Beast

4. Demyx is just an idiot

5.Xigbar attacked sora

6. Saix was happy to be able to finish sora and friends

7.Marluxia and Larxene tried to take over the org and destroy sora

8. Luxord brought zombie pirates to life O.O ooooo scary

9.i dunt feel like typing nemore cuz it wuld involve more typing

1. DiZ ruined his own life with his research.
2. Xemnas was like that for two reasons (his heartless was a psycho and he had forgotten what a real heart was like)
3. Xaldin was evil yes, i will agree here
4. Demyx was a cowerdly fellow (whom i really feel bad for) he seemed to only have joined the org because of power in numbers. he was going with the crowd to find his heart again.
5. Sora was an intruder. what else was Xigbar goin to do. He was also mad at roxas for being a traitor.
6. Same as Xigbar. Sora was in the way of their Kingdom Hearts
7. Marluxia and Larxene, im not sure what they wanted...but it wasn't to destroy sora, untill he started to fight back.
8. Luxord....he was weird..but he was collecting hearts back from the heartless (a good thing)
 

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the only memebers (in my opinion) the needed to be "taken care of" were Xemnas, Xaldin, and Saix. all of the other members didnt need to die and Im not even sure xaldin needed to die. I only say that becuase he messed with beast's world
 

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now i have a question, if the organization's orders from xemnas were 2 eliminate the traitor roxas, that means axel was the only one who actually came close, cuz he met up with roxas when he was digitized into the data twilight town...... so if all the org. members met sora and called him roxas yet knew he was sora and roxas was like in him, don't they realize that killin sora will bring roxas back??? not kill him
 

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iholdthekeys said:
now i have a question, if the organization's orders from xemnas were 2 eliminate the traitor roxas, that means axel was the only one who actually came close, cuz he met up with roxas when he was digitized into the data twilight town...... so if all the org. members met sora and called him roxas yet knew he was sora and roxas was like in him, don't they realize that killin sora will bring roxas back??? not kill him

No, that would kill Roxas too, he would DIE, not become a heartless. A bit of a difference
 

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l4t1n0pr1d3 said:
Xemnas
-He strayed from the original plan and became corrupt. He wanted to become not only complete, but a godlike being who would reshape the worlds the way he saw fit. He had to be stopped.
Xigbar
-He was just following orders it seems. Though he was responsible for turning the Dragon into a heartless, in the end no one got hurt.
Xaldin
-Another one who I believe was just following orders. Th only evil thing he did was to kidnap Belle and manipulate the Beast. And he did it in such a cool evil way.
Vexen
-He actually wanted to help Sora, but in the end was cut down by Axel. He seemed like one of the few members who wouldn't stoop so low just to get their hearts back.
Lexaeus
-He wanted the Organization to stay the way they were, and wouldn't let some new comers take over. I don't think he ever realized Xemnas' true plan.
Zexion
-The one who started everything. It was he who insisted Ansem the Wise to continue research of the heart and it was he who helped Xehanort with his plans. The way he manipulated people made him even less of a character worthy of living.
Saix
-My personal favorite member. He seemed like the smartest of all the members, as well as the most evil. He truly knew what was going on, and was Xemnas' right hand man. In the end he redeemed himself for his evil deeds though, when he pleaded to Kingom Hearts that he only wanted a heart.
Axel
-I don't think he cared for his heart, or the Organization's plans. All he wanted was to be with his friend and if that mean't backstabbing and betraying the Organization while lying to others, he would do it. Its a good thing he didn't die by Sora's blade.
Demyx
-I think he was just following orders. He seemed oblivious to the Organization's true intentions and only wanted his heart back. I didn't like that Sora had to go and kill him rather than letting him go free, he might've changed his ways . . .
Luxord
-Another member who was following orders and acting on behalf of the Organization. He never truly did anything too evil and no one got hurt, he only fooled around in Port Royal while looking for something "worthy of serving Organization XIII." His death could've been avoided.
Marluxia
-I think the reason he betrayed Org. XII was because he saw it had become corrupt. The way he used Sora and Namine though, made him seem more evil than what his intentions were.
Larxene
-Same as Marluxia.
Roxas
-Never died, but never deserved to be manipulated and lied to like he was. He was a lost confused Nobody who was only searching for the answers to questions he had about his past. I'm glad that he ended up with Namine, after all the crap he had to put up with.


I agree with all of that. I think the Organization is what really makes KHII interesting; they're very intriguing and I think that it was harsh for all of them to die. Some of them only wanted to be whole. After I beat Demyx I actually felt bad because he never did anything wrong except steal something. Axel, also, just wanted to see his friend again. However, I disagree with the fact that he didn't care about his heart. In COM he seemed to be very interesting in Sora's heart, and from some things he said I thought he wanted to be complete more than the others. It never was fully explained what his motives were though. In COM I thought there was some big plot he was involved in...

Saix and Zexion are the most interesting for me. They're both serious and intelligent, and I wish we could have found out more about them. I think Saix started to forget what it's like to feel, and Zexion I think lost all feeling. His cunning was really interesting to watch. The only times I ever saw Saix act with emotion was in Hollow Bastion when he watched the hearts float up into the air. For an animated character, the look in his eyes was very real. A sort of anticipation. And also when he pleaded to Kingdom Hearts in the end. I think Zexion was truly dark. He could even sense other dark beings and identify them. And the fact that his element is shadows reveals a lot...

Axel and Demyx definitely didn't deserve it. But maybe it's really better that they're dead, since living as an incomplete being empty of feeling is unimaginable for me.
 

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l4t1n0pr1d3 said:
Roxas
-Never died, but never deserved to be manipulated and lied to like he was. He was a lost confused Nobody who was only searching for the answers to questions he had about his past. I'm glad that he ended up with Namine, after all the crap he had to put up with.

Love the way you described him, oh so very much. :)
 

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heres my list :

1. Xemnas:a true manipulator he just wanted to be godlike and knew the truth from the beginning
2. Xaldin:he new the true plans because remember he was among the original 6 he too wanted almighty power
3. Xigbar:he too was one of the original 6 and if you remeber most(if not all) of the original wanted supreme power
4. Vexen:he was one of the only 6 who eventually realized his wrongs and tried to help sora
5. Lexeaus:to me he seemed like one of the only original 6 that had a non-caring attitude.........and his title caught me even more "the silent hero"
6. Zexion:he was one of the evilest org. memebers and deserved his death, he manipulated ansem and just used people
7. Saix:Xemnas' apprentice, he definately wanted supreme power..........until the ending when he pleaded with kingdom hearts for just one heart
8. Axel:he seemed to not even want a heart period and just wanted to be with his friend roxas............but then you have to question why'd he join the org...................and you cant forget he killed vexen for no reason.......
9. Demyx:didnt seem evil, he seemed to just be following orders............
10. Luxord:he too was evil and was in on the plan to become godlike beings.........
11. Marluxia:he wanted to takeover the org. maybe because he wanted to fix the corruption who knows...............but theres no doubt he was carzy
12. Larxene:she was evil and enjoyed seeing others feel pain, no doubt she was one of the evilest people in the org.
13. Roxas:the only person in the org. that you can truly say was a good nobody.................

to me it seemed the first 6 org. members knew the plan to become godlike beings seeing thats how they all became nobodies in the first place
 
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