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Well I'm get straight to it. My theory is that what if RoXas isn't actually Sora's nobody but in fact Ven. Yes yes I know stupid right but i didn't finish. When Ven asked to be erased, what if the only thing that was erased was his memory. The only thing had a problem with this theory is that "What happened to Ven's body and heart?"Well I think his heart was stored into Sora's body and when Sora stabbed himself with the Keyblade, Ven's heart was released and RoXas was born and thats why he(RoXas) has no memories. I had a problem explaining what happened to his body but if anyone wants to try and answer feel free to. Another reason that makes this theory better is that RoXas was a special "Nobody" because he actually looked like he had a heart and he made Axel feel like that too, hense thats why they were great friends. So thats my theory and Flame if you want because I don't really care but if anyone has any questions or corrections or any other theory let me know!!:thumbsup:
 
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You're going to need a tad more proof to back this theory up.
Also, please refrain from using size 3 "Impact" font; it's a bit irritating.
 

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More evidence is needed to justify your point.
The reasoning you have here isn't enough.

Nice try, and honestly this has been concocted several times, nothing new compared to the others.
 

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Okay, weve these theories before, and how do you explain Sora turning into a heartless?

And I serioously doubt that Square-Enix was thinking that far ahead in KH's future when they made KH1

And use normal font and size.
 

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This would be a pretty good theory except there are two flaws that kind of destroy it. First off we know that Roxas is Sora's Nobody because without Roxas, Sora could not become whole again after Namine had finished reconstructing his memories. Also before the final battle with Xemnas, we have the whole becoming whole scene where Namine is absorbed into Kairi and Roxas into Sora. The second flaw is that Ven's heart would have no way of being stored within Sora because they've never never met, Kair's heart was inside of Sora because of their bond and affection for each other.
 

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Okay, weve these theories before, and how do you explain Sora turning into a heartless?

Well when Sora stabbed himself and released Ven's(RoXas)Kairi's, and his own heart. Sora's heart went with Kairi's heart into her body and latter when Kairi touched or huged(I don't really remember what she did)Heartless Sora, his heart that was in Kairi's body somehow fused with Heartless Sora and he became himself again and I also think it has something to do with her being a Princess of Heart. And I bet your next question is "Well Sora touched Kairi before and her heart didn't go back into her body, so how do you eXplain that?" Well Kairi wasn't the same type of Heartless that Sora was, so I guess, again, it has something with Kairi being a Princess of Heart. Anymore questions??:thumbsup:
 

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This would be a pretty good theory except there are two flaws that kind of destroy it. First off we know that Roxas is Sora's Nobody because without Roxas, Sora could not become whole again after Namine had finished reconstructing his memories. Also before the final battle with Xemnas, we have the whole becoming whole scene where Namine is absorbed into Kairi and Roxas into Sora. The second flaw is that Ven's heart would have no way of being stored within Sora because they've never never met, Kair's heart was inside of Sora because of their bond and affection for each other.

Well with the first flaw I can somewhat answer. Namine reconstructed Sora's memories back to the way they were so whether or not RoXas is Sora's Nobody has nothing to do with it reconstructing Sora's memories. But then again they did need him to get the memories back(I think) but what if RoXas(Ven) was actually watching everthing while his heart was in Sora but didn't remember it when he got out because it was like a repressed memory, and thats why DiZ had RoXas in the Data Twilight Town to extract Sora's memories from his brain and thats why RoXas was dreaming about Sora.:thumbsup:
 

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You must not have played KH2, because it was stated SEVERAL times that Roxas is Sora's Nobody.

Well it's also been stated in KH1 that the enemy is Ansem but in the later games we find out it's actually Ansem's apprentice, Xehnort's Heartless so how do we know this is not the same thing (meaning that somethings we knew were actually wrong)???
 

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Well it's also been stated in KH1 that the enemy is Ansem but in the later games we find out it's actually Ansem's apprentice, Xehnort's Heartless so how do we know this is not the same thing (meaning that somethings we knew were actually wrong)???

If he wasn't Sora's Nobody, then he wouldn't have recombined with Sora before the final battle with Xemnas.
 

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If Ven is SOra's Nobody then Sora would have to have made an original Nobody. Right? Because if Roxas is made from Ven's heart and body where does that put sora's? Plus is Sora had Ven's heart too then he would have had 3 hearts in him at once. =/ wasn't two enough.
 

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If Ven is SOra's Nobody then Sora would have to have made an original Nobody. Right? Because if Roxas is made from Ven's heart and body where does that put sora's? Plus is Sora had Ven's heart too then he would have had 3 hearts in him at once. =/ wasn't two enough.

WHOA I never said that Ven is Sora's Nobody and so what if he had Three Hearts.

P.S.Noticed the Obama Pin:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

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Okay. say that ven isn't sora's Nobody. Sora's heart left his body at one point. Who would you say would be his nobody then?
 

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Well I'm get straight to it. My theory is that what if RoXas isn't actually Sora's nobody but in fact Ven.

It's confirmed that Ven and Roxas are separate people.

Yes yes I know stupid right but i didn't finish. When Ven asked to be erased, what if the only thing that was erased was his memory.

When Ven asked Aqua to erase him, that sentence carried a deeper meaning than "make me forget everything that's happened"

I personally think that Ven is dead, but for a completely different reason unrelated to the erase thing.

The only thing had a problem with this theory is that "What happened to Ven's body and heart?"Well I think his heart was stored into Sora's body and when Sora stabbed himself with the Keyblade, Ven's heart was released and RoXas was born and thats why he(RoXas) has no memories.

Ven's heart could not have gone into Sora. Well, it could have, but it loses all credibility when Sora loses his heart. Sora's heart became a heartless and Kairi's heart remigrated to her body. Where does that leave Ven's heart? It has to come out as well.

Now in the unlikely event that Ven has no darkness in his heart, it'd not have left the world of light. Thusly, physically unable to be in Roxas.

Had it had darkness, it'd have created a second heartless, which we saw that it didn't. Again, physically unable to be in Roxas.

I had a problem explaining what happened to his body but if anyone wants to try and answer feel free to. Another reason that makes this theory better is that RoXas was a special "Nobody" because he actually looked like he had a heart and he made Axel feel like that too, hense thats why they were great friends.

Roxas did have a heart, but he didn't. He had access to his original "Sora" heart, but him being a nobody, did not physically have a heart inside his body.

There is no doubt that Ven had some sort of influence over how Roxas looks, but there is no chance that Roxas has Ven's heart. That would make him Ven; which, again, we know is not true.

And I'm disappointed in all of the older members who didn't take the time out to explain it.

If he wasn't Sora's Nobody, then he wouldn't have recombined with Sora before the final battle with Xemnas.


He recombined with Sora at the beginning of KH2.
 
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