EU Version of DDD only with English, French and German subtitles.

[Cherryjuice]

Funny you mention Days just now as I finally started to play that entry for the first time (taking a break from Kid Icarus: Uprising for a while) this week. I'm just up to Day 118 (119?) where they get vacation and I didn't yet find much to complain about the German dialogue.

It's the finer details that ruined the localisation. They did not stick with the translation of (catch-)phrases and certain pieces of dialogue that were already established in the series. And when they started translating English idioms literally into German... -___-"
Re:coded was a bit better on that terms and the localisation of BbS was simply outstanding.

I see there quite a bunch of people complaining about not getting German voices. That is uneccessary whining in my book when you still have the subtitles in your own language.

Hmh, I know what you mean. I found it a pity that the latest titles had no German dub, but I can see why they just cannot afford it for every game. The dub is luxury and I regard it as such. And while I hope that we will see the German dub returning in one of the future, I am still glad that we can play the games at all...

Probably taking part in the petition out of solidarity...

 

[Narukami]

So be it. Less money for Square.

If this 3D sells less than it should, it's Square fault.

But that's not the case at all. If no one is buying the hardware, it's common sense that no one is going to buy the game. I guarantee they made this decision with projected sales in mind based not just on the game but of the hardware itself.

 

[king_mickey rule]

Holy crap, that sucks monkey balls

I mean, sure, less budget but still, this sucks for the people who are used to their own language..

 

[MasterVittoria]

I'm Italian, but I think I can understand and play it. But, I mean! It's not fair! Already we have never had the Italians voices and if we now remove also the subtitles! and then I do not understand why the French and the Germans yes and Spaniards and us not! With this the SE has really gone too far! Enough!

 

[UltimaJackpot]

Well, this certainly blows for a lot of people.

I'm guessing this is less of a budget thing (Days and Re:Coded almost certainly had lower budgets, yet still had the option available) and more of a "We just don't have the time to add Spanish subtitles/text" thing. Still pretty unfortunate nonetheless.

 

[Hillboy]

That sucks for people who don't know English. I don't see whats so hard about translating some scripts (Unless it was Russian or something)

 

[Sephiroth0812]

So be it. Less money for Square.

If this 3D sells less than it should, it's Square fault.

Believe me, as hard as that may sound, Square won't really give a damn about that in terms of business logic.
As far as it looks the Game is going to rock in the US and Canada, and in Japan it already does, UK, France and Germany are the EU countries with the biggest populations so they will also get a decent slice from there, not to mention most likely some fans of Spain and Italy who really want to continue with the story and are fluent in English (and please don't tell me the majority of younger Italians and Spaniards between 12 and 30 don't know English today, lol) will buy the game regardless.
The petition has now like what? Nearly 3.000 sign ups?
While for us that might be a high number, I doubt that a company as big as Square will deal with numbers below 10.000 at best if not even higher.

It is undebatable that this is a somewhat cruel and "mean" decision in regards to our fellow fans in Italy and Spain, especially when there really were already trailers out subbed in those languages and Europe at a whole gets left out on the 10th Anniversary, but looking at it objectively I doubt that they will change anything, not so close to the actual release date.

It's the finer details that ruined the localisation. They did not stick with the translation of (catch-)phrases and certain pieces of dialogue that were already established in the series. And when they started translating English idioms literally into German... -___-"
Re:coded was a bit better on that terms and the localisation of BbS was simply outstanding.

Hmh, I know what you mean. I found it a pity that the latest titles had no German dub, but I can see why they just cannot afford it for every game. The dub is luxury and I regard it as such. And while I hope that we will see the German dub returning in one of the future, I am still glad that we can play the games at all...

Probably taking part in the petition out of solidarity...

To be honest I haven't yet paid attention to such details, as I'm busy deciphering how exactly I can make the panel system effectively work.
The Analog-Stick of the 3DS really helps much with the control scheme though. Moving Roxas around with the Analog-Stick is way easier than with the D-pad.

Only the big console titles had a German dub anyways, and frankly, while I like most of the German voices I am by now so used to the English ones, especially HJO, David Callagher and Jesse McCartney that I don't really miss the German ones that much.
Furthermore, having KH 1 dubbed in German apparently also robbed us of the supposedly "glorious" performance of Billy Zane as Ansem, rofl.

That's true, it's good we do get the game at all (looks at Re: CoM...).

That sucks for people who don't know English. I don't see whats so hard about translating some scripts (Unless it was Russian or something)

Don't ask us, ask SE Europe, lol.
Although I do wonder how the Russians will play the title...will they get the UK version?

 

[kupo1121]

So be it. Less money for Square.

If this 3D sells less than it should, it's Square fault.

Haha, that's cold bro

Is it really that cold though? I mean, in order to put down money for a game, especially as much money as a game costs nowadays, one should be completely satisfied with their purchase. Buying a game that one can't even understand is just idiotic unless the person loves the series THAT much (which most buyers probably would not for KH). I think it would make sense to wish bad on SE for treating them so coldly, especially when one is in the middle of a rage (which will probably last for quite some time as I would be very upset if one of the KH games came only in Jap. with not English subs).

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Is it really that cold though? I mean, in order to put down money for a game, especially as much money as a game costs nowadays, one should be completely satisfied with their purchase. Buying a game that one can't even understand is just idiotic unless the person loves the series THAT much (which most buyers probably would not for KH). I think it would make sense to wish bad on SE for treating them so coldly, especially when one is in the middle of a rage (which will probably last for quite some time as I would be very upset if one of the KH games came only in Jap. with not English subs).

Welp, then maybe SE should just stop making games available in those locations all together if they won't be getting sales.

Do you see what we're getting at? Not buying the game is not going to make SE do what they want. It only reinforces the decision.

 

[Maister]

In zavvi the release date has been changed to the 7 of September.

Maybe a delay for spanish and italian localization?

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

In zavvi the release date has been changed to the 7 of September.

Maybe a delay for spanish and italian localization?

I've sent the shop a query on the game, so I'll get back to you. I don't think they'd make a delay like that especially since the games should currently be in print in time to ship to stores the 20th.

 

[Maister]

The Hut has changed the date too.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

The Hut has changed the date too.

The Hut and Zavvi are ran by the same people and work on the same system.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Wasn't 7th September the release date for BBS in USA?
The official sites (both EU and NA) still have the old, normal dates, July 20th and July 31st.

 

[kupo1121]

Welp, then maybe SE should just stop making games available in those locations all together if they won't be getting sales.

Do you see what we're getting at? Not buying the game is not going to make SE do what they want. It only reinforces the decision.

I do see what you are getting at and I feel bad because it really is a lose-lose situation on their part sadly. I mean, if they buy the game, they may only reinforce SE to not localize future games, but if they don't buy the games, SE will see even less of a reason to dub future titles. However, I guess when you are that mad and in that much of a rage, you might say things without thinking??? IDK...hope it goes well for them in the end though

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

I do see what you are getting at and I feel bad because it really is a lose-lose situation on their part sadly. I mean, if they buy the game, they may only reinforce SE to not localize future games,

It would not reinforce the need for them not to localize the games in the future. If they see there is a strong, steady market, they will make it as accessible as they can to those fans.

but if they don't buy the games, SE will see even less of a reason to dub future titles.

That's how it goes.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Email I just received from zavvi

Spoiler Show

Hi Arielle,

Thank you for your email.

I am very sorry for any inconvenience this may of caused for you.

I have looked into this for you and I can confirm this has now been changed on the website and the release date is 20 July 2012.

If there's anything else we can do please don't hesitate to get in touch and a member of our team will be happy to help.

Kind regards,
Rachel.

Zavvi.com,
Customer Service Team.

There you have it. It was a computer error and has been fixed accordingly.

 

[Magnus]

There's an easy solution to all of this. Learn some English. I can't say I'm feeling too sorry just because people won't get to play a game in their language. Mostly because your special treatment is the sole reason why the rest of Europe always have to wait at least half a year more than the rest of the world to play a game that has already been translated into English for the American release. And what do we get out of it? Absolutely nothing. We've had no choice but to get used playing games in English. We never get any dubs or subs in our languages, nor are we less entitled to them than those of you who do - yet we don't whine about not getting any.

Sometimes we don't even get the game at all, if the developers deem it unprofitable to have it translated to four other languages. For some strange reason, an English only release won't do, because then people who expect to experience the game in French, German, Spanish or Italian will get upset and as a result the rest of Europe won't get it either, even though we would be just fine with the English dub. The upcoming Journey collection won't make it here for this very reason. So if you've ever wondered why Europe always seems to get screwed over by game developers, now you know why.

But kudos to those of you who do speak either of these big four languages but can do just fine with English, because I'm sure there are plenty of you out there.

 

[Nayru's Love]

There's an easy solution to all of this. Learn some English.

Easier solution: learn some Japanese.

I can't say I'm feeling too sorry just because people won't get to play a game in their language. Mostly because your special treatment is the sole reason why the rest of Europe always have to wait at least half a year more than the rest of the world to play a game that has already been translated into English for the American release.

Or that could just be Square taking their sweet-ass time. Are you familiar with the finer details?

Sometimes we don't even get the game at all, if the developers deem it unprofitable to have it translated to four other languages. For some strange reason, an English only release won't do, because then people who expect to experience the game in French, German, Spanish or Italian will get upset and as a result the rest of Europe won't get it either, even though we would be just fine with the English dub.

Delaying a release by half a year at most is a small price to pay as opposed to forcing fanbases to learn an entirely new language.

 

[Magnus]

Delaying a release by half a year at most is a small price to pay as opposed to forcing fanbases to learn an entirely new language.

Nonsense. Please justify to me why all of the countries in Europe where people don't speak French, German, Spanish or Italian should a) be "forced" to learn English then and b) must wait for a multi-language release with languages they don't speak when they can do just fine with an English only release?