i got it! (nobody theory)

[Key of Valor]

But it's been stated that Nami's composed of nothing. :/

It was only stated by Ansem during his initial observations of Namine.

He might have changed his mind later, like in the report below:

Naminé emerged as Kairi's Nobody...but the body and soul necessary to exist as a Nobody belonged to Sora.

And even more so why Roxas was needed to complete Sora and not Namine and why Namine reunited with Kairi and not Sora.

Indeed, Sora was incomplete before merging with Roxas, but in what
sense he was incomplete was never specified. KH2 never presents the
urgency that Sora needs to obtain a vessel from Roxas. Sora needed
Roxas to wake up, in part to restore Sora's memories, and KH'Days
seems to present more complications with Sora's memory reconstruction
with the memories for some reason not being able to be put together properly,
'leaking out' as some would say. Since it deals with memories, this could
potentially be a heart issue and not necessarily a vessel issue. If so, then
perhaps Roxas returning to Sora restored something in Sora's heart.

If Namine was Sora's vessel with Kairi's Imprint, then she may need to
return to the heart of where her Imprint came from, if only for the purpose
of existing as part of a whole being. No matter what Namine was though,
there is no purpose for her composition to go to Kairi, and I personally believe
that the existence of said vessel just faded away from physical existence.

 

[Muse]

Indeed, Sora was incomplete before merging with Roxas, but in what
sense he was incomplete was never specified. KH2 never presents the
urgency that Sora needs to obtain a vessel from Roxas. Sora needed
Roxas to wake up, in part to restore Sora's memories, and KH'Days
seems to present more complications with Sora's memory reconstruction
with the memories for some reason not being able to be put together properly,
'leaking out' as some would say. Since it deals with memories, this could
potentially be a heart issue and not necessarily a vessel issue. If so, then
perhaps Roxas returning to Sora restored something in Sora's heart.

If Namine was Sora's vessel with Kairi's Imprint, then she may need to
return to the heart of where her Imprint came from, if only for the purpose
of existing as part of a whole being. No matter what Namine was though,
there is no purpose for her composition to go to Kairi, and I personally believe
that the existence of said vessel just faded away from physical existence.

So, basically, you believe that Namine had Sora's body and soul and merged with Kairi, despite there not really being a need for her to if she really does have a body and soul and it wouldn't be for her to preserve herself, and by doing so Sora's b + s just magically disappeared?

 

[Zeagal]

If that were true wouldn't Sora still just be a heart? I refuse to believe this.

 

[Byronic Hero]

ok, roxas is a different nobody right? Namine too. i have a theory, roxas was born when sora turned heartless. but kairi changed him back. so when he changed back, roxas sorta changed.
and namine too. i know namine isnt kairis nobody,

Ansem The wise has stated otherwise.

Naminé is a Nobody, created when a young girl's heart left her body.
Yet she has no corresponding Heartless.
This is because the "young girl" in this case was a princess.
Kairi, a resident of Radiant Garden over which I had ruled,

but it could happen with them too. kairi got her heart stolen, which possibly could have made namine. but she got her heart back. Just like sora, so namine maybe changed like roxas???!??

i dunno if this is a good theory or not but i just made it up.

I don't get this last part.

 

[Smile]

Since it was never actually stated that Roxas possesses
Sora's body and soul, it's possible to theorize that Roxas
might not have Sora's body and soul.

Roxas is Sora's Nobody

Nobody

Nobody

Nobody

Nobody

And Nobody = Body + Soul.

Namine is a freaking PoH's Nobody. It makes sense he'd spend the entirety of his reports trying to explain her, seeing how even amongst Nobodies, she specifically shouldn't have existed, what with being born from a Heart that never became a Heartless.
The only thing that AtW really needed to explain about Roxas was why he lacked Sora's Memories. Seeing how that needed an explanation, he explained it. Roxas's composition, however, was simple enough.
It was stated bluntly and painfully numerous times that Roxas had Sora's B+S. Ya know, what with him being his Nobody.
Roxas is special because he lacks Sora's Memories, not his vessel.
Otherwise, ya know, I think they would've yes mentioned that fact about him. Seeing how it's important and all. And yet, they don't, simply continuing to call him Sora's Nobody.

And c'mon. If AtW really had a problem theorizing that Namine was made of nothing, that doesn't make sense in light of 90% of his reports. The only real difference was that she took nothing out of Sora, instead of taking nothing out of Kairi, who couldn't give her anything to begin with.

 

[_EX]

Ansem The wise has stated otherwise.

Hasnt Ansem been wrong in past though?

 

[Smile]

Hasnt Ansem been wrong in past though?

In his credit let it be mentioned he admitted his mistakes and corrected his theories based on new findings.

 

[riku is darkness]

In his credit let it be mentioned he admitted his mistakes and corrected his theories based on new findings.

you mean, when he died, when he fired that ray at kingdom hearts and said something about being wrong about many things.

 

[Smile]

you mean, when he died, when he fired that ray at kingdom hearts and said something about being wrong about many things.

I mean when he went and changed the theories he supported between reports.

 

[Kairi's Hero]

Yush.
Namine is Kairi's Nobody. It's the fact that if she is a Nobody or not.
Kairi's heart was never stolen. It went into Sora's body and stayed here until Sora stabbed himself. Namine was made when Kairi's heart left Sora. However people bielve Xion was created around the time Kairi's heart went inside Sora.
I don't think Namine ever changed. Since she has no body and soul

EDIT: Goddammit beaten to it. And 1,700 posts ftw

I agree with the whole Xion was created when Kairi's Heart went into Sora thing. I think she is different because Kairi's heart joined another's and she didn't become whole again because Namine was created.

 

[keybladelegacy]

I agree with the whole Xion was created when Kairi's Heart went into Sora thing. I think she is different because Kairi's heart joined another's and she didn't become whole again because Namine was created.

Then Xehanort would have created another nobody because his heart went into riku. So I doubt it. Also that doesnt explain the keyblade and kairi was whole without namine

 

[Kairi's Hero]

Very well put but this was just something to even lightly consider. I wonder if it has been considered that Xion is not a Nobody.

 

[keybladelegacy]

Very well put but this was just something to even lightly consider. I wonder if it has been considered that Xion is not a Nobody.

Yes it has. Im started to think this because she is connected to sora's memories but nothing indicating her birth.

 

[Smile]

The only thing that relates to Kairi's Heart entering Sora's Body I can relate Xion with is that it had to have left Kairi's Heart to begin with XD;

 

[nobody-form]

has no-one finished kingdom hearts 2? u clearly see the projection of roxas in sora and namine's in kairi. its simple namine and roxas are different cos there previouse lives were special (sora = keyblade chosen one, kairi = one of those princesses)