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I wonder why we never fight Vanitas in Terra's story



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Xehanort (not the old Xehanort) is the strongest keyblade wielder by the end of BBS

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i see i see.
I like idea of Xehanort did not want Vanitas to face Terra because Terra would pwn him to hell
 

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I like idea of Xehanort did not want Vanitas to face Terra because Terra would pwn him to hell

Alternatively - again, seeing how fighting Vanitas when he most likely wasn't all serious got Aqua panting and beaten up despite her winning, maybe Xehanort just didn't want Terra to die before he got himself a new vessel.
And seeing how Ven -> Sora and Sora pwned all forms of Xehanort... well. I think this is a mite more likely right now. Especially since it's not that Ven wasn't strong - Eraqus just kept him on a really tight leash.
 

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Alternatively - again, seeing how fighting Vanitas when he most likely wasn't all serious got Aqua panting and beaten up despite her winning, maybe Xehanort just didn't want Terra to die before he got himself a new vessel.
And seeing how Ven -> Sora and Sora pwned all forms of Xehanort... well. I think this is a mite more likely right now. Especially since it's not that Ven wasn't strong - Eraqus just kept him on a really tight leash.

are you sure Vanitas wasn't serious? i mean he seems pretty anxious to kick the shit and kill Aqua
i mean he was like
"Which means..I don't need a backup anymore" and then he went to a fighting stance. seemed to me those words he wanted to kill Aqua right there and then so when he failed to do that he just decided he wanted to "choke" the life out of Aqua and Terra infront of Ven there and then

either way though i don't think Aqua is stronger than Terra though. Terra is superior in strength. terra would have won the master exam if it wasn't for Eraqus
bias towards darkness.

Sora did beat all forms of Xehanort, this is true. but....sora only beat the halfs of Xehanort. he never faced Xehanort at his "full power" (with 2 keyblades and the combined power of Xehanort and Terra)
 

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either way though i don't think Aqua is stronger than Terra though. Terra is superior in strength. terra would have won the master exam if it wasn't for Eraqus
bias towards darkness.

He definitely would have gotten the Mark of Mastery if Xehanort didn't sabotage him, and he does have superior strength. But, I'm not convinced that the odds on a Terra vs. Aqua duel wouldn't be pretty close to 50/50.
 

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But, I'm not convinced that the odds on a Terra vs. Aqua duel wouldn't be pretty close to 50/50.

Seconded. Strength = physical power. I think Terra'd be in a pinch if Aqua went all-out against him with magic. Also, she's a lot more nimble and agile than him, which is something we got to see well enough in their duel. He managed to dodge her attack but just barely, right before the Darkness got out of hand. Strength the kind Terra has is only useful if it hits - and Aqua seems to be nimble enough to dodge until Terra starts causing areal damage.
 

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No, because the two persons that forge the keyblade needs to have equal powers... and none of the princesses would stand a chance against Vanitas, that's for sure!

No -__- I mean if Xehanort fail in making the X-blade, the Keyblade of Hearts can still open the door to KH right? (By collecting all hearts of Princesses of Heart) .
About the substitute thing, is it mention by Vanitas during the first fight with Aqua in Radiant Garden? >.>
 

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Alternatively - again, seeing how fighting Vanitas when he most likely wasn't all serious got Aqua panting and beaten up despite her winning, maybe Xehanort just didn't want Terra to die before he got himself a new vessel.
And seeing how Ven -> Sora and Sora pwned all forms of Xehanort... well. I think this is a mite more likely right now. Especially since it's not that Ven wasn't strong - Eraqus just kept him on a really tight leash.

To be fair, Aqua knocked him out in Neverland. Yes she passed out, but only because she felt it was safe to do so. Otherwise she would have forced herself to stay awake.

However, I'm glad someone else understands that Sora is much weaker than any BBS Keyblade wielder though.

About the substitute thing, is it mention by Vanitas during the first fight with Aqua in Radiant Garden? >.>
Yes. After the fight he says "I'll keep you around. Never hurts to have a backup."
 

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However, I'm glad someone else understands that Sora is much weaker than any BBS Keyblade wielder though.

I was actually giving him quite a bit of credit for being possibly stronger. I fail to see why Sora'd be weaker than anyone, seeing how he keeps, ya know, beating everyone up. About the only one he lost to was Leon back in Traverse Town.
 

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I was actually giving him quite a bit of credit for being possibly stronger. I fail to see why Sora'd be weaker than anyone, seeing how he keeps, ya know, beating everyone up. About the only one he lost to was Leon back in Traverse Town.

I don't think Sora is stronger than Xehanort, but he is definitely stronger than say Terra and Ven as they were ten years go. I wouldn't be too sure about Aqua because she did spend 10+ years fighting Heartless in the Realm of Darkness...
 

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I don't think Sora is stronger than Xehanort, but he is definitely stronger than say Terra and Ven as they were ten years go

There is one problem with this and that is that Terra beat Xehanort. Granted, Xehanort WANTED to lose, but you have to wonder if he really held back and if so, how much. Because if he didn't and Sora > Terra, then Sora > MX.

I wouldn't be too sure about Aqua because she did spend 10+ years fighting Heartless in the Realm of Darkness...

Time moved differently. For all we know, she could've spent a day there. Granetd it'd be a day filled with despair and Darkness, but a day nonetheless. We know a plethora of other people who survived like that, and one that comes to mind was a vulnerable existence of only a Heart at the time.
*pats Riku*
 

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I just figured it wasn't part of the Master plan. Vanitas never had to be at the same place and time as Terra or even get involved in his story (Hence you never really meet him on Terra's story) I mean, why have a chess piece attack a vital piece when it isn't needed? I mean MX doesn't look like a "I did it for the Lulz" type of guy lol.
 

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Personally I think Terra and Aqua are superior in combat than Sora is at the moment. Sure Sora beat every form of Xehanort HE went up against but if he were to take on MX he would get pwned. Xemnas and Ansem SoD pale in comparison to MX and Terranort. Sora beat up these guys with his keyblade, a powerful weapon, where as Aqua and Terra were fighting Xehanort when he had said weapon himself. Aqua and Terra fought Xehanort at his peak and most powerful while Sora fought fragments of him. Both Aqua and Terra beat their respective Xehanorts but they still "lost" in a sense (body possesion and exile to the dark realm). So in short Aqua > Sora and Terra > Sora in my opinion.
 

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There is one problem with this and that is that Terra beat Xehanort. Granted, Xehanort WANTED to lose, but you have to wonder if he really held back and if so, how much. Because if he didn't and Sora > Terra, then Sora > MX.
yup. we have no clue whether MX was at full power or not fighting Terra. I think he was just toyin with him.

i mean honestly look at when you even fight MX in critical mode he is WALKING like a million times and fight you with his hand behind his back basically like
"*yawns* let's get this over with."
it doesnt even look like he's trying or he wants to hurtt Terra. He wants Terra's body so i don't think he would wanna damage it. that's why Vanitas & MX didn't beat the shet out of Terra when they fought him. Because MX AND Vanitas would have mopped the floor with Terra but because MX wanted Terra's body, why damage it you know? keep the body "fresh". that's basically the whole point

also MX is an evil lunatic. he does everything for laughs. he's the smartest guy in the KH world. i mean everything went so smoothly for the guy at the start ofBBS to the end. I think MX would wanna lose on purpose saying
"Heh, you 'beat' me..but guess what? You still LOSE -takes over body"
i think he didnt rly wanna knock Terra out, i think he wanted to let terra himself see him lose his own body. That's the type of guy MX is anyway.

So MX > Terra but Sora > Terra? I don't think so. not right now anyway.
Xehanort (not the old body MX) > Sora. Sora never fought him yet

And Aqua is not stronger than Xehanort or Terra. people need to stop sayin that.
 

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Uhm...Aqua proved that she was a formidable combatant against both Terra and Terranort. Aqua is on par with Terra, not in brute strength, but in her agility and magic prowess. Aqua isn't a weakling and she proved this many times. People honestly need to start giving her credit.
 

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He kinda fought Vanitas n the first part of the final battle when its Vanitas and MX teaming up against Terra.
 
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