If you had to erase one character from existence entirely, who would you choose?

[legacier]

And don't say Xion because it already happened to her once. And because in this fandom she's such an easy target that you might as well draw a bullseye on her face... but I wouldn't touch that discourse with a ten-foot pole.

 

[Zettaflare]

Probably Maleficent. You could have kept her dead after KH1 and nothing would have changed. I know she is technically still relevant due to Chi but at this point I could do without her.

Really wish Hades took over as the main Disney baddie

 

[Chaser]

I think for me it would be Axel. Never been too big on his character but he really rubbed me the wrong way in KH3, what with being relegated to just a fourth wall breaker.

 

[Zettaflare]

I think for me it would be Axel. Never been too big on his character but he really rubbed me the wrong way in KH3, what with being relegated to just a fourth wall breaker.

What really bothered me about Axel was that he never seemed to care that Kairi was killed. I know most of the Guardians weren't visibly upset but she and Axel spent a good chunk of KH3 bonding with each other

 

[Sign]

And don't say Xion because it already happened to her once. And because in this fandom she's such an easy target that you might as well draw a bullseye on her face... but I wouldn't touch that discourse with a ten-foot pole.

Sorry, but you set yourself up for this. Xion was literally retconned into the story. She'd be the easiest character to write out without affecting the overarching plot.

 

[Chie]

I mean, if i HAD to, there's any number of minor Disney characters who do literally nothing, lol. Sorry, Clara Cluck fans...

 

[Cumguardian69]

beware, wall of rambling text that goes nowhere ahead. hidden in spoiler tags to save people from cringe/bad faith arguments/excessive rambling.

Kairi, Xion, Namine

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Gonna get a lot of hate for these, but individually these characters are merely facets of the parent unit. I know, it sounds crazy to include the parent unit in the list of snappenings, but anyone who's bothered to play these games knows that Kairi is a shell of "potentially very interesting™" but full of emptiness and nothing noteworthy. Namine is not in the game except in CoM, a cameo in Days/2, and another cameo in ReMIND. Xion existed for a game then didn't exist again until a cameo in KH3/ReMIND. If I had my way, I'd write all of them out of existence.

(Kairi) Sora and Riku's dynamic was way more interesting in KH1 than anything Kairi had a hand in. Kairi didn't really exist in CoM, which is more ammo for the aforementioned dynamic. Kairi did practically nothing in KH2, she swatted at I think two shadows and that was the end of her self-driven involvement. Didn't exist really in BBS/Days/DDD. And of course she did basically nothing in 3/ReMIND except getting glassed and being the plot device for the episode. lawl. Not at all excited for her involvement in MoM, if she even has any.

(Xion) Xion shows more traits of Sora than she does of Kairi. That's fair, as she is basically an aggregate of SORA's memories of Kairi designed to siphon Sora's body/powers from Roxas. My problem with Xion is that they show the girl fighting, having a self-starting attitude to things, and being a go-getter not just vocally, but ON-SCREEN and physically. Compare Xion trying to find out who she is to Kairi venturing out of DI to go after the boy she just remembered and Riku. I know, Xion has a Keyblade for most of her existence and Kairi don't. But...like that's another problem. Why give black haired Kairi a Keyblade (means of survival/fighting back), the not SPUNK but literal ferocity to take what she wants (even if she don't succeed in it all the time), and more but leave the real deal defenseless and basically useless? Just merge the two. There's no reason why Kairi can't be physically accomplishing stuff, there's no reason why Kairi can't be shown doing things of her own will on-screen. There's no reason why Kairi can't actively protect her friends S/R.

Xion doesn't bring anything to her friend circle, really. She siphons all writing from Roxas in Days, and then doesn't exist until 3. All melodrama that she brings due to her being an uninvited guest in RAX circle, can be given to Roxas instead as having weird ass memories that belong to Sora instead, causing him to act weird in exchange. In 3, she appears as a dark, turns into a light, then cries. Kill her off.

Namine doesn't exist as I already outlined, but what parts of her DO exist post-KH2 I feel could just be explained as Kairi's latent power over Sora. Kill Namine and give her memory powers to Kairi as a form of her Princess of Heart role.

Ventus

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The case against Ventus is an easy one from my perspective: he's a discount Sora-lite who doesn't do anything that Sora can't do. He exists in multiple time periods, but in each one he doesn't bring a "this cannot be Sora" vibe. Throughout X/UX, he's either not in the story (thank you Agrabah filler :^) or he's standing around blissfully unaware of things. That's Sora in a nutshell. In BBS, he's quite literally the Sora of the group with a dash of existential angst whenever Vanitas is also onscreen. That could also be Sora, compare their level of emotion whenever Roxas "feels" something through Sora for example. And in KH3, he makes a cameo appearance but otherwise Sora steals the show.

SORA.

I know.

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It's crazy to suggest the so called MC get S N A P P E D out of existence but Sora needed to DIE at the end of KH3. Not get warped to another world or whatever. There needed to be serious consequences. As I look back at the series, KH3 really represented a tonal shift in the meaning of POWER OF FRIENDSHIP, and for no real reason. Every single game up until KH3 paints peoples' actions and willingness to bond and band together for the greater good as a GREAT THING TO DO. Then, magically, it isn't a great thing to do because the power of asspulls has to have some sorta drawback to not make Sora be a literal mary sue, right? Except no, because every game previous to 3 says that Sora is basically gonna be okay no matter what. So there's zero tension to him getting snapped, except for the ridonkulously long wait to see how exactly he's gonna be okay. If this happened to literally any other charcater, there'd be tension. Sora needs to go.

 

[okhi12]

Vanitas. I don't really like the whole 'Ventus comes from the past and Vanitas is derivated from a Darkness being implanted/sealed within him' thing. 'Vanitas = Darkness' is not fully confirmed yet but unless Nomura is playing a big red herring, everything seems to point in that direction. I like Vanitas, I was glad to have him back in KH3 but I don't want him to be retconned like that, as interested as I am in knowing what or who Darkness truly is.

Also Yozora and everything related to him. Back then I was amazed by FF Versus XIII trailers and I am still a bit disappointed by FFXV, but KH is already quite a nonsensical mess on its own (it pains me to say that) and I don't think adding Nomura's saltiness about Versus to the equation will help. Once again, I find it interesting, but I'd prefer Verum Rex as a separate game unrelated to KH instead of shoehorning it into the KH universe.

If I have to choose only one, then Yozora. At least Vanitas was created for KH, not recycled from an unrelated universe.

Probably Maleficent. You could have kept her dead after KH1 and nothing would have changed. I know she is technically still relevant due to Chi but at this point I could do without her.

Really wish Hades took over as the main Disney baddie

I really like Hades as a character. Too bad that would mean more money to the despicable human being that voices him.

 

[SweetYetSalty]

Personally I wouldn't get rid of anyone, but in the interest of the topic I may as well give a answer before this place turns into a rant thread on characters you don't like. Also it would be easy to just say Aeleus and Dilan.

I pick Zexion. If Marluxia didn't have Union X I would have picked him and just have Larxene be the main villain of CoM with Axel. I often forget Zexion was in the Organization. He was a poor opponent for Riku when compared to Ansem and Repliku. Honestly Repliku should have been in the original Organization to begin with. Zexion and Lexaeus have no achievements and accomplished nothing. Wasted spots on the Organization. I certainly don't hate either of them, but what did Zexion ever bring to the table? Ienzo is another story but Zexion? So if I had to it would be him. But again I don't wanna erase anyone.

I think for me it would be Axel. Never been too big on his character but he really rubbed me the wrong way in KH3, what with being relegated to just a fourth wall breaker.

It's a shame, Axel use to be in my top five favorite characters but ever since he became Lea and self aware I have not been a fan of his writing at all.

 

[Dast]

Sora's Mom, to stop the endless jokes.

 

[Chie]

Sora's Mom, to stop the endless jokes.

This is probably the correct answer since she's so out of place. I mean, I like sora's implied parents, but it's so glaring how they each come up once, ever. So I wouldn't be surprised if Nomura would cut Sora's Mom if he could go back in time.

 

[VentusAstra]

I think for me it would be Axel. Never been too big on his character but he really rubbed me the wrong way in KH3, what with being relegated to just a fourth wall breaker.

^ Exactly. I miss when he was a badass in CoM, now I hate how he is in KH3.

 

[Tartarus]

(1st choice) Kairi > (2nd) Ventus > (3rd) Maybe Xehanort in the sense that I didn't want every villain to be iterations of one character. I didn't really like the retconning of Xion into the Axel-Roxas story, although I didn't actually mind Xion herself.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, Yozora for sure. I didn't even think of him until I read everyone else's posts. That character would be my 2nd choice to go after Kairi.

 

[Rodin]

Ansem the wise is one of my favorite characters but i think he serves the series more in death than being alive again.

 

[Absent]

I feel like BBS could’ve been more compelling had it only focused on one MC. As much as I prefer Aqua and Ven over Terra, I think only having Terra for BBS could’ve made things have more weight.

 

[Idreamaboutcats]

You mean besides the obvious?

I'd have to say...the seagull whose egg was stolen.

Seriously though, for me it'd be Huey, Louie, and Duey. I know time flows differently in all worlds, but how on earth are they still kids in 1 if they're the same age in BBS? It's like a mistake against nature. It bothered me too much, like that nagging feeling on the back of my head.

Secondly, ACT, because those three are a ticking time bomb, especially now that Remake is out. I shudder to think how Nomura is going to keep certain kinds of fans satisfied (because we all know they're there, no matter how much we deny it).

I'm not sure what to feel about Yozora though. Yeah, we know he's practically Nomura's saltiness made manifest, but the silver lining in this is since he's a KH character, Disney owns him, so Square can't really screw Nomura over this time, at least, not without the looming threat of a lawsuit or majority acquisition looming on their doorstep.

 

[*TwilightNight*]

Kingdom Hearts 2 interview:

What triggered Roxas’ separation from the Organization?

As he kept having recurring dreams of Sora, someone he didn’t know, he felt he needed to leave the Organization to find out who these people he didn’t know were. As Axel didn’t want him to go, he didn’t tell Sora about Roxas in Castle Oblivion, did he?

Xion being erased wouldn't make a dent, Roxas left, and would have left, based on his own experience with Sora's memories. Literally, she's the most superfluous character in the series and exists solely for being Tomoco Kanemaki's self insert. She's the obvious answer because of that reason. KHII came first and was created without Xion, and because of that nothing would change the result no matter what went on in the "Roxas game".

If I had to pick anyone else, it would have been Axel/Lea. He's the prime example of why characters staying and becoming more relevant due to popularity is an issue. However, he's influenced certain parts of the story. When I think of a character's value, I imagine what the series would be like if they weren't there. If they weren't there, then they have to be replaced with an object or a similar character that serves the same purpose. Which defeats the point. That's why Kairi and Naminè can't be erased, their powers (and mistake in Naminè's case) affect the plot. And for more than one game.

That's also why Axel's not able to be written off from existence either, what with KHII, DDD, and Xion 2.0. But Worse coming in.

 

[disney233]

There are so many characters in KH. Many of them are basically pointless.

And don't say Xion because it already happened to her once. And because in this fandom she's such an easy target that you might as well draw a bullseye on her face... but I wouldn't touch that discourse with a ten-foot pole.

Yeah, sorry bud, but no. She is on the top list. Her death felt useless given that absolutely no one will remember her, and she just...SHE'S JUST THERE. Xion is LITERALLY just there to be the girl of the group because EVERY TRIO HAS TO HAVE ONE. Sorry man, but no. Xion is one of them. And you know who else is another that has no reason to be here and needed to be erased SOONER...y'know like...shouldn't have existed in the first place?

Young Xehanort.

The man was SOOOOOOOO unbearable from start to finish. He's just some edgy version of Xehanort that only appeared to make the series more difficult than it needed. DDD didn't need to go hard on adding TIME TRAVEL OF ALL GODAMN THINGS. And the way he died just furthers the point. He's just an unbearable brat that didn't need to be introduced.

But since HE'S been erased, Xion'll do. Doesn't matter if she 'already stopped existing' her existence has been retconned and returned thanks to KH3.

 

[Soldier]

Only one? so much for me throwing frozen under the bus for the 10th time...
If I had to pick one, I'd have to put the brakes on Axel (get it?). He's too popular a character, and I hated his self reference (that "he's way too popular" to be killed") I'm tired of him getting all the merch, his keyblade, bond of flame, a pop figure and WAY TOO MANY diamond select representation (the guy's in like, 4 packs). Meanwhile other organization members like Xaldin and Demyx get the shaft because they're not as important to the narrative.

 

[Jochira]

Eraqus

I haven't played DR yet (still catching up at UX), but I've honestly never liked Eraqus. I know that his darkness phobia was due to Xehanort, but I don't like how ppl keep claiming that Eraqus have done nothing wrong and, instead pushed the blame on Terra. Eraqus's is almost as bad as Xehanort imo

I know the story would be greatly altered w/o him, but I still would write him out