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Rain said:
I really fail to see why you're so against letting Riku get his own Keyblade and Duel Wield :\ it's certainly better than throwing Keyblades all over the place over relations that make no sense - because they don't. The only reason Sora managed to get the KK from Riku was because he quite physically and literally reached into his Heart and pulled it out of there. No one else had the chance to do anything of that sort maybe other than Ven in Sora to allow for Keyblade transferal.

There have been many passing of Keyblades in the
series, so I'm just suggesting there might be a few more
under slightly different circumstances.

I just have different views on the subject. My theory
is certainly possible, even if your views possess strong
opposition towards it.
 

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There have been many passing of Keyblades in the
series, so I'm just suggesting there might be a few more
under slightly different circumstances.

And by passing of Keyblades you mean "physical transfers that lasted for short periods of time and are thus not to be used as examples" :v

My theory
is certainly possible, even if your views possess strong
opposition towards it.

Kinda hate to burst your bubble, but no. There are times when one has to admit that. Roxas doesn't have a gazzillion Keyblades to pass around to the entirety of the known universe.
 

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Rain said:
And by passing of Keyblades you mean "physical transfers that lasted for short periods of time and are thus not to be used as examples" :v

Again though, slightly different circumstances.
To all those who believe that someone from BBS
chose Riku to wield the Kingdom Key, then that
right there could stand as justification to believe
that Roxas could also make such a choice.

Rain said:
Kinda hate to burst your bubble, but no. There are times when one has to admit that. Roxas doesn't have a gazzillion Keyblades to pass around to the entirety of the known universe.

Ah, there you go again, acting as you always do.

See, you're unable to discredit my theory as it is,
so you exaggerate it to make look ridiculous. It's quite
humorous really, because it demonstrates that you
can't disprove my theory, and it is indeed possible.
 

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:v your refusal to accept facts =\= undisprovable theory.
Riku has his own Keyblade.
Sora only has his own.
Roxas isn't the source of all Keyblades.
They'd need to reach into each other's Hearts for the transfer to occur.
 

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Rain said:
:v your refusal to accept facts =\= undisprovable theory.

Your inability to provide contradicting facts=/= disprovable theory

Rain said:
Riku has his own Keyblade.

Indeed.

Rain said:
Sora only has his own.

Indeed

Rain said:
Roxas isn't the source of all Keyblades.

Indeed...

thanks for posting pointless facts
that don't contradict my theory.

Rain said:
They'd need to reach into each other's Hearts for the transfer to occur.

Well perhaps if Sora could reach into Riku's heart to get the Keyblade,
then perhaps Roxas could reach into Riku's heart to give the Keyblade.
 

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well we know that he gets do dual weild after he leaves the org because in fake twillight town when u fought axel he didnt know you had 2 keyblades
 

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Your inability to provide contradicting facts=/= disprovable theory

That's narcissistic and very fucking rude.

thanks for posting pointless facts
that don't contradict my theory.

Common sense contradicts your ridiculous theory.

Well perhaps if Sora could reach into Riku's heart to get the Keyblade,
then perhaps Roxas could reach into Riku's heart to give the Keyblade.

When did Sora ever do this? Sora called out to the Keyblade, yes, but he didn't reach into anything. And when would Roxas have had the opportunity to give Riku his Keyblade? When he was beating Riku senseless or when Riku knocked him out with one blow and then threw him in VTT?
 

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Xenka said:
That's narcissistic and very fucking rude.

um... Rain said just about the same thing to me
with the opposite claim...

And as a general rule, I refrain from cursing as a
small gesture of politeness. If I were you, I wouldn't
be accusing others of being rude while using
inappropriate language.

Xenka said:
Common sense contradicts your ridiculous theory.

lol, that's a relief.

for a moment there, I was worried there
were actual facts that contradicted my theory.
I guess there aren't though.

Xenka said:
When did Sora ever do this?

KH1... you know...
It's at that part where Sora first got the Keyblade.

Xenka said:
Sora called out to the Keyblade, yes, but he didn't reach into anything.

Sora touched the light in Riku's heart, which is how he initially got the Keyblade.

Xenka said:
And when would Roxas have had the opportunity to give Riku his Keyblade?

After Roxas' fight with Sora, before Riku fights Saix.
 

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um... Rain said just about the same thing to me
with the opposite claim...

She did it with good reason.

And as a general rule, I refrain from cursing as a
small gesture of politeness. If I were you, I wouldn't
be accusing others of being rude while using
inappropriate language.

My language is of no concern to you.

lol, that's a relief.

I'd be relieved too, knowing that I have no common sense.

for a moment there, I was worried there
were actual facts that contradicted my theory.
I guess there aren't though.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here: Creationist?

KH1... you know...
It's at that part where Sora first got the Keyblade.

That's not how he got it. He called out to it.

Sora touched the light in Riku's heart, which is how he initially got the Keyblade.

Again. he called out.

After Roxas' fight with Sora, before Riku fights Saix.[/QUOTE]

Because that's a really big time window. Especially considering Roxas was merged with Sora at this point.
 

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Xenka said:
She did it with good reason.

lol, hypocritical much?

Xenka said:
I'd be relieved too, knowing that I have no common sense.

Then I take it you are relieved? lol

Xenka said:
That's not how he got it. He called out to it.

He called out to it... really... was it something like this-

Sora: magically Key weapon that I have never seen or been aware of,
please come to me instead of that spoiled brat, Riku.

Or was it more like this-

---About Riku being the rightful owner of the Keyblade - why is it that Sora had the Keyblade first?
Nomura: That part is also a bit vague. In the Destiny Islands when Riku is swallowed by the darkness, there's a sparkle of light, and next comes the scene where Sora first gets the Keyblade, right? In my setting, the darkness wrapping itself around those two is the darkness of Riku's heart. At the moment when Sora enters that darkness, the light you can see is the light of the heart. Sora, trying to help Riku, struggling in the darkness, touches that light and temporarily the Keyblade goes to Sora.

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Because that's a really big time window. Especially considering Roxas was merged with Sora at this point.

If you read back, you would know that I'm suggesting
that Roxas, while physical part of Sora, willed the Keyblades
to Riku using his connection with Riku's heart.

A long distance transfer, you can say.
 

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I can't believe I'm the person that has to bring this thread back up, but I will.
Mostly since I can't believe I forgot about this.

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The Keyblade that Roxas used and the Keyblade that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the Keyblade at the same time. This can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, they both can wield two Keyblades, which, in fact, has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort’s memories, but this point can’t be touched on just yet

If you say Roxas Duel Wields because of Xion, you're saying Xion's related to Xehanort's Memories.
You're possibly saying Xion's Aqua :D but I admit that's one of the possible explanations to this.

Your response please.


My take: Sora and Roxas were never seen to Duel Wield at the same time. Hence if Roxas Duel Wielded only after Sora went to sleep, the "The Keyblade that Roxas used and the Keyblade that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing" adds up.
Sora and Roxas have a Keyblade each. This is explained by BBS - Ven relations. Sora goes to sleep. Roxas gets Sora's Keyblade and Duel Wields, now having two. Roxas returns to Sora - Sora now can Duel Wield.
Xion giving Roxas the Keyblade would mean that she got it from Sora and Roxas to begin with which ties in with too much of what we know about her (or think we know XD). Meaning that for Sora, Xion, and Roxas, we'd only have 2 Keyblades instead of the 3-4 you'd like them to have.
 
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I've gotta go with Rain. Your theory doesn't string together well. Besides that, it's got more passes than a soccer game, and that's just stupid.

Roxas: DW's probably because of either Ven or Xion.
Sora: DW's because of Roxas/fighting with his friends.
Kairi: Her gloried dildo of a bouquet of a keyblade is handed to her by a Keyblade master. Thus, Riku is maintaining it, not her.

Clear things up?

^^^Dildo, I mean ditto. That guy just battled Rain...I guess that's commendable. No,no, he was just insolent. Quel impertinence!
 

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Rain said:
I can't believe I'm the person that has to bring this thread back up, but I will.
Mostly since I can't believe I forgot about this.



If you say Roxas Duel Wields because of Xion, you're saying Xion's related to Xehanort's Memories.
You're possibly saying Xion's Aqua :D but I admit that's one of the possible explanations to this.

Your response please.

Well I'm not specifying in this theory why Xion has a Keyblade,
so her possessing it because she's Aqua related is fair to speculate.

However, my personal belief is that she has the Keyblade because
of Roxas, who is connected to Ven, who is connected to BBS, which
essential involves events in Xehanort's memories I suppose.

Rain said:
My take: Sora and Roxas were never seen to Duel Wield at the same time. Hence if Roxas Duel Wielded only after Sora went to sleep, the "The Keyblade that Roxas used and the Keyblade that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing" adds up.
Sora and Roxas have a Keyblade each. This is explained by BBS - Ven relations. Sora goes to sleep. Roxas gets Sora's Keyblade and Duel Wields, now having two. Roxas returns to Sora - Sora now can Duel Wield.
Xion giving Roxas the Keyblade would mean that she got it from Sora and Roxas to begin with which ties in with too much of what we know about her (or think we know XD). Meaning that for Sora, Xion, and Roxas, we'd only have 2 Keyblades instead of the 3-4 you'd like them to have.

Your views on dual wielding in relation to Sora and Roxas are pretty logical
and all, but when it comes to Riku's wielding, I'm not convinced that he could
just make a Keyblade. Not that it isn't possible... I just don't like the idea
that objects as signifcant as the Keyblade can just be made like that...

And another reason I support Roxas passing a Keyblade to Riku is because,
even though Riku was at active force for the year that Sora was asleep,
he still hadn't obtained a Keyblade. Yet, near the end of KH2, Riku just
recently obtains a Keyblade. It's not so much how did it happen that bugs
me, but more so, why then?

It's just so convenient for Roxas to have possibly passed Riku his Keyblades,
despite such an idea sounding terribly unlikely.
 

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Well I'm not specifying in this theory why Xion has a Keyblade,
so her possessing it because she's Aqua related is fair to speculate.

However, my personal belief is that she has the Keyblade because
of Roxas, who is connected to Ven, who is connected to BBS, which
essential involves events in Xehanort's memories I suppose.

And yet it lowers the Keyblade count as you see it. How does your theory deal with this?

Your views on dual wielding in relation to Sora and Roxas are pretty logical
and all, but when it comes to Riku's wielding, I'm not convinced that he could
just make a Keyblade. Not that it isn't possible... I just don't like the idea
that objects as signifcant as the Keyblade can just be made like that...

Only it's not there from no where. The Soul Eater is proof he always could get a Keyblade, and he had a basis for it. The Soul Eater became the WtD once Riku's Heart was strong enough to sustain it properly. That's not "just made like that", that's leaning back on something that was established as early on as KH1, being that Riku is a chosen wielder. Sora took the Keyblade Terra gave Riku, not the ability to Wield.

And another reason I support Roxas passing a Keyblade to Riku is because,
even though Riku was at active force for the year that Sora was asleep,
he still hadn't obtained a Keyblade. Yet, near the end of KH2, Riku just
recently obtains a Keyblade. It's not so much how did it happen that bugs
me, but more so, why then?

...I think the how should bother you more than the 'then'. Aside from answering that question, it will show you're no longer avoiding the issue that the only known transferal of Keyblades we've seen thus far, being Sora and Riku, was a direct reaching into another person's Heart. The tug-o-war between them later on fell on that, but the initial snatching of Keyblades was when Sora physically reached into Riku's heart.
You've still yet to explain how that would be possible for Riku and Roxas, seeing how the only example we have to go on contradicts your theory, hence making it baseless speculation.

It's just so convenient for Roxas to have possibly passed Riku his Keyblades,
despite such an idea sounding terribly unlikely.

It's a lot more convenient Riku finally got what was rightfully his and Xehanort got him to Duel Wield. Instead of you know Roxas spewing Keyblades all over the place, when the Keyblade count doesn't add up.

You have Sora, Xion and Roxas's Keyblades. That would be two Keyblades thanks to Ven relations - since Nomura confirmed that Roxas and Sora wielding at the same time ties back to BBS, meaning Ven can't be a third Keyblade - only the second. Roxas's one.
That leaves us with Sora Duel Wielding, and Riku snapping two Keyblades into existence.
You're running a few Keyblades short.

Unless of course you say Xion got her Keyblade from Aqua which brings us up to three for SoRo and one for Xehanort but I still get a win because you admit Xion-Aqua relations.
 

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Rain said:
Only it's not there from no where. The Soul Eater is proof he always could get a Keyblade, and he had a basis for it. The Soul Eater became the WtD once Riku's Heart was strong enough to sustain it properly. That's not "just made like that", that's leaning back on something that was established as early on as KH1, being that Riku is a chosen wielder. Sora took the Keyblade Terra gave Riku, not the ability to Wield.

Well I know you're not saying that Riku's Keyblade came from nowhere.
I understand that you're saying that it came from his heart, but I don't
think the Keyblade could just be created by someone's heart like that.
Otherwise, Sora should make his own Keyblade too. I know Sora already
has a Keyblade and all, but if Riku can make his own Keyblade, then so
should Sora. Sora could have both the Keyblade that was originally
Riku's and the own he made on his own.


Rain said:
...I think the how should bother you more than the 'then'. Aside from answering that question, it will show you're no longer avoiding the issue that the only known transferal of Keyblades we've seen thus far, being Sora and Riku, was a direct reaching into another person's Heart. The tug-o-war between them later on fell on that, but the initial snatching of Keyblades was when Sora physically reached into Riku's heart.
You've still yet to explain how that would be possible for Riku and Roxas, seeing how the only example we have to go on contradicts your theory, hence making it baseless speculation.

But don't you yourself believe in long distant transfers?
When Sora went to sleep in Castle Oblivion, you believe
that Sora's Keyblade went to Roxas allowing him to dual
wield, don't you?

Rain said:
It's a lot more convenient Riku finally got what was rightfully his and Xehanort got him to Duel Wield. Instead of you know Roxas spewing Keyblades all over the place, when the Keyblade count doesn't add up.

Riku didn't get what was rightfully his... he got a replacement.
If he were to get what was rightfully his, he would have gotten
Sora's Keyblade.

Rain said:
You have Sora, Xion and Roxas's Keyblades. That would be two Keyblades thanks to Ven relations - since Nomura confirmed that Roxas and Sora wielding at the same time ties back to BBS, meaning Ven can't be a third Keyblade - only the second. Roxas's one.
That leaves us with Sora Duel Wielding, and Riku snapping two Keyblades into existence.
You're running a few Keyblades short.

I believe that three Keyblades were attached to Ven, and that these
Keyblades transfered to Roxas. Then Roxas merged with Sora,
bringing four Keyblades together attached to one being. Then
Roxas could pass two Keyblades to Riku. Thus Sora has two,
and so does Riku.

Rain said:
Unless of course you say Xion got her Keyblade from Aqua which brings us up to three for SoRo and one for Xehanort but I still get a win because you admit Xion-Aqua relations.

I personally don't think Xion and Aqua are connected.
I just don't see the support in such an idea.
 

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Well I know you're not saying that Riku's Keyblade came from nowhere.
I understand that you're saying that it came from his heart, but I don't
think the Keyblade could just be created by someone's heart like that.
Otherwise, Sora should make his own Keyblade too. I know Sora already
has a Keyblade and all, but if Riku can make his own Keyblade, then so
should Sora. Sora could have both the Keyblade that was originally
Riku's and the own he made on his own.

I'm not saying his Heart "just created it". It used to Wield. Maleficent already took him half the way with the Soul Eater.
And the thing about Sora creating his own Keyblade is that I don't think a Heart can have more than one Keyblade. Sora Duel Wielding is because of Ven, so it's not really his Heart that has two Keyblades at the same time.

But don't you yourself believe in long distant transfers?
When Sora went to sleep in Castle Oblivion, you believe
that Sora's Keyblade went to Roxas allowing him to dual
wield, don't you?

I seriously can't believe you even tried to compare.

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The Keyblade that Roxas used and the Keyblade that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the Keyblade at the same time. This can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, they both can wield two Keyblades, which, in fact, has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort’s memories, but this point can’t be touched on just yet

Unless you want to tell me Roxas and Riku are Heart and Nobody, you can't use that reasoning.
Roxas and Sora are parts of the same whole being. Roxas and Riku don't have that luxury, hence long distance transferal is impossible. Roxas got Sora's Keyblade, and his Memories in the forms of Dreams.
Something like that'd be impossible for Roxas and Riku.

Riku didn't get what was rightfully his... he got a replacement.
If he were to get what was rightfully his, he would have gotten
Sora's Keyblade.

Well, this actually in a sense leads me back to an old theory of mine, one that said that what Sora grabbed was in fact the Keychain for the KK. But that's besides the point... which still holds.
He got a Keyblade as he was originally chosen for. I doubt Nomura'd have gone out of his way to yes put value into the Lingering Sentiment by having that scene be the one where Riku's proved to be a proper wielder if he wasn't.

I believe that three Keyblades were attached to Ven, and that these
Keyblades transfered to Roxas. Then Roxas merged with Sora,
bringing four Keyblades together attached to one being. Then
Roxas could pass two Keyblades to Riku. Thus Sora has two,
and so does Riku.

...oh sweet. And I'd imagine those three Keyblades are TAV's in their entirety?
Aqua's Keyblade is in Xemnas's hands. Unless you wanna make me further happy by saying Xion has Aqua's Keyblade, it doesn't add up.
Xehanort being the probable Terra relation no doubt still holds his own in some manner for he opened the Door to the Heart of Radiant Garden. You could argue that he was like Riku, a wielder that lost his Keyblade, but then you're still one short with Aqua.

And that's of course beyond the fact that while possible, we're back to this being a fanfiction theory since when the deuce would Ven get three Keyblades?

Oh, and ha ha.
His own broke.
Forgot that.
You're down to one Keyblade for Ven again.

I personally don't think Xion and Aqua are connected.
I just don't see the support in such an idea.

Reread that paragraph. I didn't word it too oddly.
 
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I'm not saying his Heart "just created it". It used to Wield. Maleficent already took him half the way with the Soul Eater.

I know there was a gradual process and all,
wielding the Soul Eater so long as a phase
halfway to the Keyblade.

Eventually though, the Soul Eater made
that jump to Keyblade. Since it wasn't a
genuine Keyblade to begin with, it required
more of something to trigger the change.

And according to you, that more of something
came from his heart, so technically it was just
created from his heart. At one point, it's the
Soul Eater, and because of Riku's heart,
at another point it just becomes the Way to
Dawn.

I still prefer the idea that Roxas' Oblivion was
used as the main composition for Riku's
Keyblade.

Rain said:
And the thing about Sora creating his own Keyblade is that I don't think a Heart can have more than one Keyblade. Sora Duel Wielding is because of Ven, so it's not really his Heart that has two Keyblades at the same time.

And Roxas?

Rain said:
I seriously can't believe you even tried to compare.

Unless you want to tell me Roxas and Riku are Heart and Nobody, you can't use that reasoning.
Roxas and Sora are parts of the same whole being. Roxas and Riku don't have that luxury, hence long distance transferal is impossible. Roxas got Sora's Keyblade, and his Memories in the forms of Dreams.
Something like that'd be impossible for Roxas and Riku.

It didn't specify the nature of the relationship that explained it, so
perhaps it's not just a Nobody/original self thing.

I don't see what basis you have for saying that long distance
transfers are impossible. Even if I can't prove that it's possible,
you can't prove that it isn't possible, or at least you haven't yet.

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...oh sweet. And I'd imagine those three Keyblades are TAV's in their entirety?
Aqua's Keyblade is in Xemnas's hands. Unless you wanna make me further happy by saying Xion has Aqua's Keyblade, it doesn't add up.
Xehanort being the probable Terra relation no doubt still holds his own in some manner for he opened the Door to the Heart of Radiant Garden. You could argue that he was like Riku, a wielder that lost his Keyblade, but then you're still one short with Aqua.

Well, it's a vague idea but it's like this. Potentially, Terra chose Riku
to receive a Keyblade. Perhaps each wielder could chose someone
to possess a Keyblade too. Terra's choice accounts for Sora's own
Keyblade. I think Roxas' Keyblades could be related to the choices
of other characters in BBS, not just TAV. Perhaps related to Ven's
choice, the choice of the Dark Soldier, and the Master's choice.
And their choice of who would receive Keyblades isn't necessarily
related to their own Keyblades they use in the game. If I was
counting Keychainless Keyblades, then I really would have a
gazzilion Keyblades to work with, but no, I'm refering to the
potential that they have other Keyblades for the purpose of
passing them down.
 

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You're going really far out of your way to defend a theory that you've yet to present any evidence for, Key of Valor. You obviously don't understand the concept of "the Burden of Proof". Your senseless dribble isn't even a legitimate theory until backed by some sort of valid evidence. We needn't disprove your shit, as you've yet to prove it. The fact of the matter is, this isn't something that's been touched on specifically, and most of your theory is illogical as it has no logical founding.

We're back to creationism...
 

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I still prefer the idea that Roxas' Oblivion was
used as the main composition for Riku's
Keyblade.

You would. You can't afford to lose face now and admit otherwise.

And Roxas?

I already included Ven's name in there. Sora has the one Terra gave Riku. Roxas has the one Sora has from his relation to Ven. There being two Keyblades present within the being makes for Duel Wielding.
You really need to start paying attention to the people that you debate with.

It didn't specify the nature of the relationship that explained it, so
perhaps it's not just a Nobody/original self thing.

I'm almost afraid to ask what possible relation the two will have other than being a Nobody and his Heart. Especially when that was what was always given as the reason inside the games for Roxas being able to Wield.

I don't see what basis you have for saying that long distance
transfers are impossible. Even if I can't prove that it's possible,
you can't prove that it isn't possible, or at least you haven't yet.

And that, my friend, is what makes your theory baseless. It's not so much as I don't have anything to contradict it so much as you take what is so obvious to everyone else they don't bother explaining specifically because there's no worth to it.
You clinging on to the "I can't prove it's possible, but you can't prove it's impossible" is what makes me hold no respect for you as a theory maker what-so-ever.
Especially when you're forgetting that you, being the theory maker, is the one that has to present us with the proof.
Based on what we've seen thus far, you either needed a physical contact (Sora-Riku), or a Nobody-Somebody contact (Roxas-Sora).
I brought my proof.
Now you need to show us a long distance transfer. Otherwise this isn't even a valid theory, it's conjecture. There is a difference.

Well, it's a vague idea but it's like this. Potentially, Terra chose Riku
to receive a Keyblade. Perhaps each wielder could chose someone
to possess a Keyblade too. Terra's choice accounts for Sora's own
Keyblade. I think Roxas' Keyblades could be related to the choices
of other characters in BBS, not just TAV. Perhaps related to Ven's
choice, the choice of the Dark Soldier, and the Master's choice.
And their choice of who would receive Keyblades isn't necessarily
related to their own Keyblades they use in the game. If I was
counting Keychainless Keyblades, then I really would have a
gazzilion Keyblades to work with, but no, I'm refering to the
potential that they have other Keyblades for the purpose of
passing them down.

And that's why I said this is a fanfiction theory. You have nothing to back this up. Nothing. Which is what makes this possible, though - the fact it's so utterly out there it's detached from everything we know.
 

Key of Valor

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Xenka said:
You're going really far out of your way to defend a theory that you've yet to present any evidence for, Key of Valor. You obviously don't understand the concept of "the Burden of Proof". Your senseless dribble isn't even a legitimate theory until backed by some sort of valid evidence. We needn't disprove your shit, as you've yet to prove it. The fact of the matter is, this isn't something that's been touched on specifically, and most of your theory is illogical as it has no logical founding.

Prove a theory? It wouldn't be a theory then, would it?
I think your concept of a theory is a bit off. I'm not out
to prove anything. I'm just suggesting an idea and providing
certain support. Thing is though, if you can't disprove this
theory, then it's not technically illogical, it just might not
agree with your logic.

Possible until proven impossible.

Rain said:
You would. You can't afford to lose face now and admit otherwise.

Ha, are you demanding conformity or something?

Rain said:
I already included Ven's name in there. Sora has the one Terra gave Riku. Roxas has the one Sora has from his relation to Ven. There being two Keyblades present within the being makes for Duel Wielding.
You really need to start paying attention to the people that you debate with.

Rain said:
I don't think a Heart can have more than one Keyblade.

You need to start paying attention to yourself.

If a heart can't have more than one Keyblade,
then why can Roxas have two Keyblades?

Rain said:
I'm almost afraid to ask what possible relation the two will have other than being a Nobody and his Heart. Especially when that was what was always given as the reason inside the games for Roxas being able to Wield.

Just because some people in KH2 believed that was
the reason Roxas could wield the Keyblade, doesn't
make it true. Characters have been terribly wrong
before, even the ones who thought they had all the
answers.

Rain said:
And that, my friend, is what makes your theory baseless. It's not so much as I don't have anything to contradict it so much as you take what is so obvious to everyone else they don't bother explaining specifically because there's no worth to it.
You clinging on to the "I can't prove it's possible, but you can't prove it's impossible" is what makes me hold no respect for you as a theory maker what-so-ever.
Especially when you're forgetting that you, being the theory maker, is the one that has to present us with the proof.
Based on what we've seen thus far, you either needed a physical contact (Sora-Riku), or a Nobody-Somebody contact (Roxas-Sora).
I brought my proof.
Now you need to show us a long distance transfer. Otherwise this isn't even a valid theory, it's conjecture. There is a difference.

lol, don't worry Rain. I don't expect any more from you.
It's really quite hilarious though. You can't seem to
comprehend what's backwards about your reasoning.

Rain said:
And that's why I said this is a fanfiction theory. You have nothing to back this up. Nothing. Which is what makes this possible, though - the fact it's so utterly out there it's detached from everything we know.

lol,

And look who's lecturing me about fanfiction theories. lol
 
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