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KH 2: Final Mix- Keyblade Graveyard/Disney Castle



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He admitted to be defeated by Sora, yes Sorad did defeated LS cannonically. And for those who say it isnt a cannon fight it is, you have no prove to say its not cannon, the only evicence we have is that the battle DID happened, so as the evidence is on the side of who claim it did happened it is the burden of proof upon those who deny it.

It is actually very funny how people were saying at the enmigmatic man "didnt happened, was just a random fight etc." yet in KH2 it is confirmed to be cannon and that the fight actually happened, and please this isnt the only time we see characters doing illogical things, Sora should have mentioned his previous fight with Xemnas when he encountered him for the second time at the World That Never Was, yet no one spoke about it.

Ermm.. I was asking what LS said after the battle with Sora and didn't said whether the battle is canon or not.
 

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How one could sense somebody's heart inside?

It's Kingdom hearts... you can see hearts float out of you when you die. No explanation why the characters can do that... psychic maybe?

But yeah, he sensed Ven in Sora. That's why he said, "Aqua... Ven..." Because sensing him, made him remember his goal or something like that.

You know something else? I just thought of this... could it be that he was trying to warn Sora of what's coming or what happened? I mean, what he said was AV's names and then Xehanort...
 

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When LS said Xehanort's name, was it because his hate towards Xehanort?
 

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You know something else? I just thought of this... could it be that he was trying to warn Sora of what's coming or what happened? I mean, what he said was AV's names and then Xehanort...

If he was, he certainly wasn't trying very hard. But keep in mind, he first thought that Sora was a trick sent by Xehanort.

When LS said Xehanort's name, was it because his hate towards Xehanort?

Right. He said that all he has left is his hatred for Xehanort.
 

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If he was, he certainly wasn't trying very hard. But keep in mind, he first thought that Sora was a trick sent by Xehanort.

Oh really? I didn't know that. I never really played KH2:FM,so I don't know the details of it except it's has extra stuff in it that KH2 didn't have.
 

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Again, could I get a quote or vid? Not doubting you or anything, I just want clarification.

It could be canon, or not. All Nomura confirmed was that that fight was unimportant.

Battles can be fought and also not be canon. Case in point, every battle in the Mirage Arena.

I don't remember people saying that, but okay. Either way, though, at least Nomura wasn't being ambiguous with us when asked about Enigmatic Man.

Maybe not here but in other forums I had joined before peoplel were saying at the KH1 time "was just a random boss, it is only to show a new guy that will appear, but the battle itself wont be true". It is the EXACT same situation as Enigmatic Man, and EM was also an irrelevant fight too, nobody spoke about it, Sora didnt even saw to be startled to see that the final boss of that adventure was the same guy he fought at KH1. Yet the battle is confirmed to be cannon

Was EM important? No it wasnt, yet it happened. What did Nomura said about LS? That it wont be relevant, just as EM wasnt relevant, doesnt mean it didnt happened.

Nomura has never introduced foreshadowing fight only to then say "lolz it didnt happened", when it happens they are data bosses, etc. but foreshadowing fights have never been retcon and I doubt this will be the first time. Though what maybe COULD happen if this guy can rewind time is to go back to the time before he fought TAV and not do it at all, which you could say in a way it didnt happened, but it did happened only that is only in the mind of MF. This is the closest thing I can see it to beign made non canon.
 

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But the Xemnas battle at radiant garden was canon because it was Xemnas goal to test Sora because of Roxas
 

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It was never confirmed whether or not the battle was canon, only that it was irrelevant, so arguing over it is pretty pointless.

As for why it shows up in Disney Castle, don't over-think it.
It's probably just because they didn't want to make an actual Keyblade Graveyard world on the Gummi Ship map. In that case, they would have had to have given it a name, and I don't think they had one at that point. When hackers did a room mod, they found that the map was labeled "The Gathering Place," not "The Keyblade Graveyard."

No one? Because it's not a rumor?
The idea that LS isn't speaking in a discernible language is absolute nonsense.

Good point actually. It's the same thing with the Xemnas fight. Xemnas didn't choose RG for any particular reason. Sora was just there, so he went there. Location probably doesn't mean that much.

Oh. Well that's ur opinion and I respect it. But again...considering the differences between the Xemnas fight in KH1FM and this fight, I think there's enough evidence to argue that the Lingering Sentiment can't talk.

Which makes sense considering its just a suit of metal.
 

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Maybe not here but in other forums I had joined before peoplel were saying at the KH1 time "was just a random boss, it is only to show a new guy that will appear, but the battle itself wont be true". It is the EXACT same situation as Enigmatic Man, and EM was also an irrelevant fight too, nobody spoke about it, Sora didnt even saw to be startled to see that the final boss of that adventure was the same guy he fought at KH1. Yet the battle is confirmed to be cannon

Was EM important? No it wasnt, yet it happened. What did Nomura said about LS? That it wont be relevant, just as EM wasnt relevant, doesnt mean it didnt happened.

Nomura has never introduced foreshadowing fight only to then say "lolz it didnt happened", when it happens they are data bosses, etc. but foreshadowing fights have never been retcon and I doubt this will be the first time. Though what maybe COULD happen if this guy can rewind time is to go back to the time before he fought TAV and not do it at all, which you could say in a way it didnt happened, but it did happened only that is only in the mind of MF. This is the closest thing I can see it to beign made non canon.

what? the enigmatic man was a VERY important encounter. that was when xemnas sampled soras memories for xions creation. and no, that did not happen in CO. she was created before sora even got there.
 

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The Xemnas fight was thought to be unrelated to the story at first and then became canon.

Who knows? Maybe the same thing will happen with the Armor fight in KHII where Sora will flashback actually fighting him like they did with Xemnas during the Roxas segment in KHII.
 
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