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The most likely thing I see is the Sora and Riku looking through their own memories to find the secret to saving TAV and RAX. I bet Sora eventually goes far back enough so that he sees Ven's memories and then knows the events of BBS, knowing exactly how to save TAV in the process.
 

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1) Time will tell if it was all a dream or not
2) that doesn't contradict it having importance in the long run. I didn't spoil myself but they do give importance to "Sleep" - you dream when you sleep and all that, tee hee.

He's talking about the trailer not the game plot itself. The trailer is proven to be a dream but the trailer is probably just used to show off 3D effects.
 

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Part of me thinks they'll be in their KH2 designs in the final game, but I doubt it. XD

I like Horizon's Knight's idea of it being Sora and Riku going back in time to fix everything, though. :D

Thank you VirgilTheart.

kh doesnt really need more time travel...
time travel is pretty much just a giant retcon anyway... it would be like a reset button and make the other games pointless.

I really don't want time travel. The idea's becoming cliche' (although I like how it was done in Star Trek)

I think you are all forgetting Merlin's door to the past in KH2. Who's to say an important Villain isn't behind it? Since Xehanort is supposed to come back as stated in the KH2FM+ Ultimania, who's to say this isn't part of Xehanort's plan to obtain his goal which of now is too confusing to find out? After all, that would explain all of the retcons lately?

I remember Grass made an excellent theory on a thread (can't remember which) on the game being Sora and Riku searching memories in their hearts so they can Remember RXA and TAV and possibly heal their torment.

Perhaps this is also what's happening, and Xehanort is trying to prevent VAT and RAX from being remembered.
 

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He's talking about the trailer not the game plot itself. The trailer is proven to be a dream but the trailer is probably just used to show off 3D effects.
she. and yeah.

I think you are all forgetting Merlin's door to the past in KH2. Who's to say an important Villain isn't behind it? Since Xehanort is supposed to come back as stated in the KH2FM+ Ultimania, who's to say this isn't part of Xehanort's plan to obtain his goal which of now is too confusing to find out? After all, that would explain all of the retcons lately?
i didnt forget about it, but its one thing to use it for a single world than to make it the plot of an entire game.
also, none of the retcons actually contradict anything so... they dont need to be explained away with time travel.
 

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Does anyone know if the Trailers online to watch? sounds kinda weird...

I like the idea of Sora having to travel through he's memories to fin hint to how to save RAX, TAV & Naimne.
 

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i didnt forget about it, but its one thing to use it for a single world than to make it the plot of an entire game.

If the Heartless got to Mickey in the past, then their would be no current King Mickey. If there is no King Mickey, then Xehanort's sucess rate goes up higher than before because there would be less obsticals in his way. Of course that world's timeline changing would have affect the whole series. Although it wasn't mentioned afterwards, that door was still there. Therefore, it provides a passage to the past. Not only that, but Pete also managed to conjor a door to the past and entered it with his Heartless cronies, which is what caused the Cornerstone of Light to be infected in the first place. Someone could conjor up yet another door if they knew how, or even if it was by accident.

also, none of the retcons actually contradict anything so... they dont need to be explained away with time travel.

You just contridicted the very definition of retcon.
 

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If the Heartless got to Mickey in the past, then their would be no current King Mickey. If there is no King Mickey, then Xehanort's sucess rate goes up higher than before because there would be less obsticals in his way. Of course that world's timeline changing would have affect the whole series. Although it wasn't mentioned afterwards, that door was still there. Therefore, it provides a passage to the past. Not only that, but Pete also managed to conjor a door to the past and entered it with his Heartless cronies, which is what caused the Cornerstone of Light to be infected in the first place. Someone could conjor up yet another door if they knew how, or even if it was by accident.
time travel only makes things even more convoluted.

You just contridicted the very definition of retcon.
i dont think you know what retcon means. it may contradict what -we- know to be the case, but rarely have the retcons in the actual games contradict the games themselves.
 

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What's the definition of retcon then? I googled and found something about "deliberately changing previously formed facts" or something... I haven't noticed any in the series :S I go for a time traveling game, but time travel in a sense of "memory travel" so thaat whatever they do there doesn't affect the current world because that would make the story so complicated I doub it would ever become unquestionably clear what the main plot is (I doubt Nomura will find a way to enclose all the stories told so far, but I keep hoping he'll manage to somehow tie them up.... But if he adds time traveling and changing future, the whole thing would become way too messy)
 

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there are many types of retcons and, contrary to popular belief, they're not all bad.

the type of retcon that rewrites previously changed things is the kind that contradicts. but the type KH uses most often is a revision, which adds to the story but keeps in line with previously stated facts. as in, it doesnt contradict the games.

an example: the revelation of how ventus is connected to sora/roxas is a retcon, but it doesnt contradict what we've seen in the games that follows, it works with it.
 

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there are many types of retcons and, contrary to popular belief, they're not all bad.

the type of retcon that rewrites previously changed things is the kind that contradicts. but the type KH uses most often is a revision, which adds to the story but keeps in line with previously stated facts. as in, it doesnt contradict the games.

I always felt fans were always exaggerating when they said "OMG NOMURA RETCONS EVERYTHING KH IS DEAD!!!!!!!!"

But then again, the people that say that are the ones who hate all the other games beside KH1 so yeah.
 

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Nah, no more time travel in KH. And Merlin's door only led to a specific place in the past.
 

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I think that "KH 3D" could be that game where it'll be release (along with Re:coded) around 2010, and it features Sora & one other important character, which is Riku. So that's just leave 2 more games, one for 2011 with multiple characters (maybe SRK, RAX, N & TAV) and Kingdom Hearts III.


KH 3D won't be releasing in 2010. Chances are the 3DS won't even release until 2011. BBS will be out this year and possibly Recoded as well. If that's the case we should probably expect 3D next year as Nomura said he'd like to release a KH game every year.
 

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Thank you VirgilTheart.





I think you are all forgetting Merlin's door to the past in KH2. Who's to say an important Villain isn't behind it? Since Xehanort is supposed to come back as stated in the KH2FM+ Ultimania, who's to say this isn't part of Xehanort's plan to obtain his goal which of now is too confusing to find out? After all, that would explain all of the retcons lately?



Perhaps this is also what's happening, and Xehanort is trying to prevent VAT and RAX from being remembered.
Timeless River was an isolated event. That will never happen again. Gee its like the Birth by Sleep teaser speculation all over again.
 

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Gee its like the Birth by Sleep teaser speculation all over again.

Of course it is. It's the same speculation reaction that happened with the Another Side, Another Story/Deep Dive Secret Endings all the way back in 2002 and 2003. It's inevitable when something like that comes out to the public, and with very little information on it given.
 

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this game is given me an idea. Think Nomura about this. This game might be a spin off, wat if kh1 and 2 were a dream.... wat if the world he is in now is a world taken over by hearless and nobodies... I'm starting to think wat possibilites are even possible... a kh1 looking game.. too young to be after kh2 and coded...

thats wat i think
 

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There's always going to be speculation until Nomura spills his guts about anything and everything in the KH universe from when the universe began to where we are now.
 

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this game is given me an idea. Think Nomura about this. This game might be a spin off, wat if kh1 and 2 were a dream.... wat if the world he is in now is a world taken over by hearless and nobodies... I'm starting to think wat possibilites are even possible... a kh1 looking game.. too young to be after kh2 and coded...

thats wat i think

I doubt that KH3DS is a spin off but I like the idea of it being a 'what if?' game.
 

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this game is given me an idea. Think Nomura about this. This game might be a spin off, wat if kh1 and 2 were a dream.... wat if the world he is in now is a world taken over by hearless and nobodies... I'm starting to think wat possibilites are even possible... a kh1 looking game.. too young to be after kh2 and coded...

thats wat i think
that doesnt sound Nomura-esque at all.
 

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this game confuses me it must not be cannon bacuse we apprently start off with all the abilites sora has learned at the end of kh1 and looses in kh2
and riku looks untouched by darkness at all im not usre whats going on plus kairir not even there as if people are gonna care
but i do miss donald and doofy
plagin thease games are harder by yourself becuase you can get outnumbered and overpowered more easily
 
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