Kingdom Hearts 3 Story Discussion

[brandedkarma]

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While I do like some of the stuff Nomura did in this game and love speculating/theorising about KH lore and whatnot, am I the only one that's kinda annoyed that a freaking gacha game has had so much influence on the series? It just feels weird knowing that it has so much baring on the series.

 

[ImVentus]

It is possible that

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the change in Riku's hairstyle comes from taking Riku Replica's heart inside him while inside the Demon Tide.

Even if that was legit, I still don't buy it.

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Why would Riku Replica alter Riku's hairstyle? Replica has long hair, so I don't see the connection. The most logical explanation would be Nomura wasn't feeling Riku's new look in DDD worked for his liking. So he re-did it. Sorry, just find it very ridiculous how they tried to make sense of his new look, instead of bringing a scissor and gel along to ROD. I believe the garment theory, Sora also had a new hairdo with his new outfit.

 

[rokudamia2]

Hmmm

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I wonder if what happened to sora is an excuse for them to soft reboot the Series.

 

[brandedkarma]

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I think one glaring plot hole in KH3 is Sora being surprised by Vanitas' face. He saw what he looked like in Dream Drop Distance; that meeting is even referenced in the confrontation between Sora and Vanitas in the Monsters Inc world. I hope someone brings it up in an interview with Nomura or something.

 

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Hmmm

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I wonder if what happened to sora is an excuse for them to soft reboot the Series.

Nope. I just think Sora will return to the past, gather wielders, and then return to present time KH to find out what the heck the Darkness have done.

 

[Nukara]

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People I did not understand the moment with the return of Xion?
How could her return if her heart is in Sora?
Also, the moment with the keyblade Aqua is not clear.
The fact that she lost it at 0.2 is probably true, so why did Sora find him just now during the events of KH3? After all, Keyblade got to the Fate of the islands during the events of Part 1 of the KH.

 

[Absent]

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People I did not understand the moment with the return of Xion?
How could her return if her heart is in Sora?
Also, the moment with the keyblade Aqua is not clear.
The fact that she lost it at 0.2 is probably true, so why did Sora find him just now during the events of KH3? After all, Keyblade got to the Fate of the islands during the events of Part 1 of the KH.

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Good questions, knowing Nomura he would put the answers in an Ultimania.

 

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People I did not understand the moment with the return of Xion?
How could her return if her heart is in Sora?
Also, the moment with the keyblade Aqua is not clear.
The fact that she lost it at 0.2 is probably true, so why did Sora find him just now during the events of KH3? After all, Keyblade got to the Fate of the islands during the events of Part 1 of the KH.

I can only clarify that Xion is back because her memories were triggered, and Vexen/Demyx had to do with that by playing traitor. I don't remember the specifics, but the Secret Reports contain crucial information.

 

[gosoxtim]

also you think after many times that kairi and riku save sora that hew would understand love trully is desont matter it plantiic or romantic

 

[Smithee]

Some admittable writing-positives were... most of the sendoffs for the Seekers (especially Luxord's, Xemnas's, and Ansem SOD's), and all the "torment{ed}" characters finally getting their big breaks.

 

[rokudamia2]

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I’m pretty sure Luxu is Brain. I never noticed how similar he looks to Braig pre scaring on the menu screen and the preview for the newest update saying he’s going to make his move.

 

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I’m pretty sure Luxu is Brain. I never noticed how similar he looks to Braig pre scaring on the menu screen and the preview for the newest update saying he’s going to make his move.

I either think Brain is an entirely original character, or it's really Gula.

Or it could be a time traveling Luxu, seeing as how he said that he'd need to return to the past. Maybe Brain is a new vessel?

 

[Twilight Lumiair]

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Now that I've officially seen the whole game, I think the story was decent for the most part. But it was, and will probably always be frustrating how they kept Roxas at arm's length the entire time, and essentially made him a moving goal post. I don't really know what the logic was supposed to be behind the constant teasing (both in and out of the game) if the pay-off was gonna be so short and somewhat anticlamactic.

After watching the clock tower scene between Lea and Isa, and also learning how Isa was the one who instructed Vexen to assist the apprentices in bringing back Roxas and Xion(giving him a far more important role than the pair themselves), the purpose of the fight against Isa in the KG becomes pretty apparent. It's a fight to give both himself and Lea proper closure, and to finnally force the former to drop his whole facade. While that's certainly appreciated, this was still the only thing Roxas or Xion contributed to the entire game. They weren't fighting to give themselves closure, or for any greater narrative purpose than simply quelling Isa's frustion (which they weren't even aware they were doing). Also, we got no follow up from their perspectives on... anything, unlike Ventus and Aqua, who immediately were shown reflecting on their own personal journeys they got to experience. Roxas' story on the other hand was retold and reflected on by other characters, and only served to further their arcs, not his own. Maybe that's why his resolution during the ending in particular feels so hollow to me. I dunno, it was just really underwhelming after all that waiting and build-up. I just wanted him to be the hero of his own story/narrative for once (not Xion, Sora, Lea, Ienzo, etc.), but in the end he basically only served to give closure to those around him and got little to no time to develop himself (highlighted by how he was the only one out of his now large circle of friends to not receive a new outfit). I'd say the same about Xion, but she was already the narrative center of 358 and bassically the hero/agent of change in that story. Idk, maybe I'm just whining now, but I can't help but feel dissapointed.

 

[Graceful Schemer]

Just re-checked the Ending:

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Attention to Details has been really good in this game. Isa does have his original green eyes in the ending.

 

[Neo_]

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So I'm as far as the Monsters cutscenes where Sulley tosses Vanitas through a door (OG characters actually have to acknowledge world-specific Disney ones!), and couldn't help but notice it looks like he's tossing him into a snowbound land; he doesn't reappear in Arendelle, right?

I know he reappears at the end of the game with Ventus and you fight him with Aqua: is it ever explained how he gets back, or do you ever see him before then? I know he can travel through portals and stuff, but was just wondering if he reappears at the end of the game with no explanation.

Edit: Actually, it looks like Sulley tosses him into Arendelle, and then Twilight Town, then San Fransokyo and finally a room we can't see.

 

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I mean, he can just open a Corridor of Darkness and that's that.

 

[Neo_]

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I also want to say that although they added more NPC's, the bare minimum on Disney characters is still lifeless and boring: you're telling me that all they could do for Monstropolis was Mike, Sulley, Boo, Randall and the CDA? I feel lucky they even brought Randall back. They could've at least had Celia sitting at the receptionists desk, or even Roz at the scare floor desk for a little life, even if they were mute and had no interaction.

Toy Story is even worse how they don't even show the toys you were supposed to rescue.

 

[Chuuya]

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Who else felt the ending was a little unsatisfying? Like great, there's plot now that we haven't covered and we're going to spend another few years trying to figure it out. Then again, the story isn't suppose to be over. Only the Xehanort saga. At least the reunions we were waiting for finally came to be.

 

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Who else felt the ending was a little unsatisfying? Like great, there's plot now that we haven't covered and we're going to spend another few years trying to figure it out. Then again, the story isn't suppose to be over. Only the Xehanort saga. At least the reunions we were waiting for finally came to be.

I think people wanted an ending akin to that of KINGDOM HEARTS II: it had a definitive closure, but it teased us with what was to come. This ending has some sort of sense of closure, but not as near as KHII's.

 

[Nukara]

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I have one more question ?
What time was Scala? I thought she was in the place of Keyblade Graveyard, even the ruins on it are very similar to Scala.
And isn't Xehanort and Eragus from the Land of Departure? And why then Scala collapsed. After all, Eragus and Xehanort lived after the Keyblade War.
I'm completely confused, we definitely need a spin-off game about youth Eragus and Xehanort.