Kingdom Hearts III Pre-Release Spoiler Discussion Thread

[ZJGamer]

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You're saying this when we already had cutscenes in TRAILERS of people in the god damn computer lab. Be angry all you want, but you probably should have caught onto the fact earlier that there was probably going to be cutscenes in this area. Also, not a game developer or anything, but making something viewable and playable are probably two VERY different things, with one clearly taking much more resources.

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It's not really a big leap to make areas designed for cutscenes into something playable. They still had to design and build these areas in a computer program and that clearly took time. All you have to do to make them playable is to let Sora go there, put some spawn points for Heartless, put in some treasure chest, and boom you have a playable Radiant Garden. I think this is should shut down the defense that Square-Enix didn't have time to develop a the assets for a playable Radiant Garden world, because clearly they did, they just didn't allow the player to go there.

I'm also betting these assets are going to be reused for Radiant Garden to be a DLC world later on. In other words we have another FFXV situation where a major part of the game is relegated to DLC instead of being in the game at launch. Honestly I thought Nomura was going to be better in this regard than Tabata. That whole FFXV situation tainted everything in this company, God I hate that game.

 

[Elysium]

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You're saying this when we already had cutscenes in TRAILERS of people in the god damn computer lab. Be angry all you want, but you probably should have caught onto the fact earlier that there was probably going to be cutscenes in this area. Also, not a game developer or anything, but making something viewable and playable are probably two VERY different things, with one clearly taking much more resources.

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I haven't seen whatever ZJGamer is talking about, but he said "areas outside of the castle" were seen with Riku and Mickey walking around, not the tiny lab room??

 

[ZJGamer]

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I haven't seen whatever ZJGamer is talking about, but he said "areas outside of the castle" were seen with Riku and Mickey walking around, not the tiny lab room??

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There are images of Riku and Mickey with Dilan in the town part of Radiant Garden as well we can see a fully restored castle in Radiant Garden, but it's all cutscene only

 

[maximumlight8]

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Let it go sequence got leaked, it's amazing.

 

[ZJGamer]

They did that with BBS and 0.2. The little bit of Destiny Islands are cutscenes only. What's so different about this?

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Well Destiny Islands was essentially the final boss area of 0.2, so I mean it served it's purpose in that game. In BBS, yes they could have very well easily made Destiny Islands playable, heck people have hacked BBS and had the trio running around Destiny Islands as if it were playable.

But the difference between that situation and the what we see being done with Radiant Garden in KH3 comes to down to WHY they should be playable. Destiny Islands served it's purpose in BBS in cutscene form, there was no need for it to be playable. But Radiant Garden is different. This game, Kingdom Hearts III, is the finale of the Xehanort Saga. Radiant Garden almost more than any other world in the series as been the center of the Xehanort Saga. Think about all of the important defining events of the saga that have occurred in this world:

1. Kairi gained the ability to one day wield a Keyblade here.
2. Terranort was found here and became Ansem the Wise's apprentice.
3. Through the experiments that Xehanort and the other apprentices conducting in this world, the Heartless began their invasion of the Realm of Light here.
4. This is the home world of the first 8 members of Organization XIII, this is pretty much where Organization XIII began.
5. This is the home world of Kairi.
6. Leon and the gang, Sora's first true friends outside of Destiny Islands and the ones who first explained to him and by extension the player the concepts behind the Keyblade and the Heartless, reside here and their lives have been negatively affected by Xehanort as much as anyone else.
7. This world is stated to be the capital of the realm of light by Xehanort himself and it was so important that Maleficent chose it to be her home base.
8. Sora became a Heartless here, which means this world is where Roxas and Namine were created.
9. This is the world where Aqua fell into the Realm of Darkness.

And there are probably some points I'm forgetting. But my point is, that from a narrative standpoint, Radiant Garden has been such a central focus of this entire saga it just feels wrong to me to not include it as a playable world in the finale of the very saga it has been such a massive part of it. And I don't understand how people, especially the ones that have been playing the games since the first one came out, can really sit here and say they are okay with Radiant Garden being included. It's just something that doesn't feel right to me.

And the fact that that Square would spend time to make all of the resources for Radiant Garden and then have it just be used for cutscenes, is like them teasing us, and it's frankly insulting, because they have to know how much fans wanted this world to be in the game. I'm sorry, but I don't care what excuse people come up with to try and defend Nomura's decision here, I just can't accept any defense of this decision as being valid. That's my honest feelings on this, and baring by some miracle the game comes out and the world is actually playable, I'm not changing my opinion on this issue because I feel that strongly about it.

Finally I will say that Destiny Islands should have been playable too considering it is the home world of our main hero and main villain.

 

[robotman]

We should have full game details by the end of Monday... Y'all don't know how excited I am for this damn game... It's so close.

 

[UnicornisLord14]

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A better version of Verum Rex in better quality was posted on CGInfernoblast's Twitter.

 

[Grono]

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quick snippet of Lea and Kairi interacting is out on twitter. Didn't want to spoil myself but went for it and my insides are JELLO! I really think they're going to build up this idea that Kairi missed Sora while he was out and has been trying to tide herself over by keeping a diary of sorts, and honestly it feels pretty genuine. I love Lea and Kairi being friends later in life, I'm okay with the Sora-Kairi romance, and the way they're doing it feels right. Damn, Alyson, you did a good job for this game. Way better than 0.2 for sure. And Quinton's good as always

 

[palizinhas]

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That Let It Go sequence was so gooood. I was excited about this song being in the game, and the little cutaways to SDG are cute.

 

[Recon]

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A better version of Verum Rex in better quality was posted on CGInfernoblast's Twitter.

It's so fucking lit. I watched it 10 times in awe.

 

[Sakuraba Neku]

I'm not really liking how it seems they prioritized Disney Worlds over Original Worlds, when both should have been given equally attention.

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- Twilight Town is KH3 Hub World and it's smaller than it was KH2.
- According to the first leaker, RoD is just two sections.
- It was already bad enough Radiant Garden wasn't playable considering how much important has been for the main plot, but now we know Riku/Mickey will go there and there's cutscenes outside of the Computer Room. Seriously Nomura, why??!

 

[Leaferian]

It's so diddlying lit. I watched it 10 times in awe.

Wait, where did that get leaked?

Edit: Saw it, and I just. God. WOW. They're really crushing it, and knowing they did the whole sequence without any direct assets from Disney makes it so disgustingly impressive.

 

[maximumlight8]

Leaker posted a HD version of Let It Go in the desc he said: I am done facing my fears.....its time to "Let it Go"

So let's see if he's gonna do it

 

[shuyin_zer0]

Of course that scene is prerendered lol

 

[mriku90]

Of course that scene is prerendered lol

I thought Nomura said Let It Go would not be pre-rendered? They're just that damn good in teh graphics.

 

[shuyin_zer0]

I thought Nomura said Let It Go would not be pre-rendered? They're just that damn good in teh graphics.

There is no way all of that could be rendered at a time with a consistent FPS on either system. You can see a difference in the character models too

 

[mriku90]

There is no way all of that could be rendered at a time with a consistent FPS on either system. You can see a difference in the character models too

one hell of a pilot

Someone made a comparison gif set in the case of Let It Go you can tell it's the game's graphics and not the movie.

Movie

Game

Just look at Elsa's hair in Movie and Game. It's different.

 

[DraceEmpressa]

I am grateful that this leaker is nice. He's open to spoilers in DM and says things nicely.

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so what is verum rex?

 

[Grono]

I am grateful that this leaker is nice. He's open to spoilers in DM and says things nicely.

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so what is verum rex?

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It's the game Rex is obsessed with in the beginning of Toy Box. The Verum Rex thing is a trailer for the fake game he likes, and the gigas in the toy store are the toys for the main villains I guess

 

[ROXAS_32]

So i just watched the Let it go Sequence and i have to hand it to square. They did a excellent job on it...
I still cant wait for the game, even tho my expectations dropped to a reasonable level.