Kingdom Hearts III Pre-Release Spoiler Discussion Thread

[sorawild]

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Well Destiny Islands was essentially the final boss area of 0.2, so I mean it served it's purpose in that game. In BBS, yes they could have very well easily made Destiny Islands playable, heck people have hacked BBS and had the trio running around Destiny Islands as if it were playable.

But the difference between that situation and the what we see being done with Radiant Garden in KH3 comes to down to WHY they should be playable. Destiny Islands served it's purpose in BBS in cutscene form, there was no need for it to be playable. But Radiant Garden is different. This game, Kingdom Hearts III, is the finale of the Xehanort Saga. Radiant Garden almost more than any other world in the series as been the center of the Xehanort Saga. Think about all of the important defining events of the saga that have occurred in this world:

1. Kairi gained the ability to one day wield a Keyblade here.
2. Terranort was found here and became Ansem the Wise's apprentice.
3. Through the experiments that Xehanort and the other apprentices conducting in this world, the Heartless began their invasion of the Realm of Light here.
4. This is the home world of the first 8 members of Organization XIII, this is pretty much where Organization XIII began.
5. This is the home world of Kairi.
6. Leon and the gang, Sora's first true friends outside of Destiny Islands and the ones who first explained to him and by extension the player the concepts behind the Keyblade and the Heartless, reside here and their lives have been negatively affected by Xehanort as much as anyone else.
7. This world is stated to be the capital of the realm of light by Xehanort himself and it was so important that Maleficent chose it to be her home base.
8. Sora became a Heartless here, which means this world is where Roxas and Namine were created.
9. This is the world where Aqua fell into the Realm of Darkness.

And there are probably some points I'm forgetting. But my point is, that from a narrative standpoint, Radiant Garden has been such a central focus of this entire saga it just feels wrong to me to not include it as a playable world in the finale of the very saga it has been such a massive part of it. And I don't understand how people, especially the ones that have been playing the games since the first one came out, can really sit here and say they are okay with Radiant Garden being included. It's just something that doesn't feel right to me.

And the fact that that Square would spend time to make all of the resources for Radiant Garden and then have it just be used for cutscenes, is like them teasing us, and it's frankly insulting, because they have to know how much fans wanted this world to be in the game. I'm sorry, but I don't care what excuse people come up with to try and defend Nomura's decision here, I just can't accept any defense of this decision as being valid. That's my honest feelings on this, and baring by some miracle the game comes out and the world is actually playable, I'm not changing my opinion on this issue because I feel that strongly about it.

Finally I will say that Destiny Islands should have been playable too considering it is the home world of our main hero and main villain.

...Just so you know, Nomura confirmed that quite a lot of the backgrounds in many of the cutscenes are not actually in engine, they are pre-rendered. It is entirely possible that Radiant Garden is just a pre-rendered background for cutscenes.

 

[Crimson Crusader]

Okay, how in the hell are soo many people getting copies early?!? (And where do I get one? Lol jk...kinda) Seriously, how often do games get leaked this bad?

 

[sorawild]

Okay, how in the hell are soo many people getting copies early?!? (And where do I get one? Lol jk...kinda) Seriously, how often do games get leaked this bad?

Nomura's biggest mistake was letting people know that the game has gone gold and started shipping the copies 3 months before release. Most companies don't actually start the shipping process to warehouses until the last 30 days before release. The longer those copies stay out there, the easier it would be to get your hands on them from someone who works in one of those warehouses.

 

[ROXAS_32]

Okay, how in the hell are soo many people getting copies early?!? (And where do I get one? Lol jk...kinda) Seriously, how often do games get leaked this bad?

Its still the same person posting videos... (Nevermind just seen another user on twitter with a deluxe copy for ps4.)
i'm not mistaken Review units should be on their way out if not already in the hands of reviewers... Also once they start stocking in retail stores its not that hard to get a hold of (Wouldn't recommend taking a chance tho...)
Games, Movies, and music get leaked all the time, This case is a bit special because of the large fanbase that follows the series, as well as the 13 year wait period that we had to endure.

 

[DraceEmpressa]

Okay, how in the hell are soo many people getting copies early?!? (And where do I get one? Lol jk...kinda) Seriously, how often do games get leaked this bad?

Remember the first leaker? Stole 30 copies of Xbox ones and said he'll stole PS4 ones as well? That . CGInfernoBlast says he buys on Ebay tho.

 

[ZJGamer]

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Looking at the new Olympus gameplay you can go back to talk to Zeus and there is a circular area right behind him which could have easily been used as a new coliseum for this game. I don't know why they didn't take advantage of that and give us new coliseum tournaments. It seems so obvious to do that.

 

[shuyin_zer0]

one hell of a pilot

Someone made a comparison gif set in the case of Let It Go you can tell it's the game's graphics and not the movie.

Movie

Game

Just look at Elsa's hair in Movie and Game. It's different.

I don’t think you know what prerendered means. I didn’t say it isn’t rendered in UE4

 

[shuyin_zer0]

Also, looks like he’s about to post a big spoiler

 

[sorawild]

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Looking at the new Olympus gameplay you can go back to talk to Zeus and there is a circular area right behind him which could have easily been used as a new coliseum for this game. I don't know why they didn't take advantage of that and give us new coliseum tournaments. It seems so obvious to do that.

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Battlegates are effectively the same thing, so Im fine with it.

 

[Neo_]

The single line about the ingredients SD&G each have is going to get so old, and I can't believe they used a take where Tony Anselmo sounds like he's dying/drunk; gonna become the next Hydra's back meme.

Edit: Also, is it just me or is Goofy obscenely small compared to Herc? I think Buzz and Woody tower over them as well. It's weird.

 

[Nukara]

Damn, I do not know whether you can 100% believe this, but twitter user "de rinc" who in turn seems to have learned the "spoiler end" from Epic Hood , in general she told me what will be the ending of KH3.
Of course, I will not say anything, because I’m not sure about all her words, but also because I think even for this section my words would be too “big spoiler”.
If that I am not joking and I hope you do not take my comment for a joke.(

 

[drew0512]

Well, too many spoilers around now, time to go. See you soon!

 

[shuyin_zer0]

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Delete this actually; I don’t want to be the one to spoil that lol

 

[UnicornisLord14]

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Delete this actually; I don’t want to be the one to spoil that lol

I would like to what you were going to post. Could you send it to me in a PM if you don't mind? I'm fine with spoilers.

 

[darknessofheart]

Massive spoilers:

Looks like CGInfernoBlast is the guy to follow now because he is actually posting cutscenes and spoilers. He posted a cutscene revealing that Vexen has indeed rejoined the organization because he wants to continue his research on replicas. He was the person Saix was talking to in the Keyblade Graveyard in the trailer. They want to leverage his research to create more replicas to serve as vessels. Even if he has yellow eyes, I'm still getting a double-agent vibe from Vexen, but knowing Xehanort, he has already anticipated this and is simply using Vexen as a means to an end, which is probably why we have more than 13 seekers of darkness at this point. Some are just contingencies or pawns not meant to be part of the reforging of the X-Blade.

 

[UnicornisLord14]

Massive spoilers:

Looks like CGInfernoBlast is the guy to follow now because he is actually posting cutscenes and spoilers. He posted a cutscene revealing that Vexen has indeed rejoined the organization because he wants to continue his research on replicas. He was the person Saix was talking to in the Keyblade Graveyard in the trailer. They want to leverage his research to create more replicas to serve as vessels. Even if he has yellow eyes, I'm still getting a double-agent vibe from Vexen, but knowing Xehanort, he has already anticipated this and is simply using Vexen as a means to an end, which is probably why we have more than 13 seekers of darkness at this point. Some are just contingencies or pawns not meant to be part of the reforging of the X-blade.

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I still don't get why they brought Vexen back into the Organization, I get the need for the Replica Program, but he's annoying as heck and he has such an ugly design to me, especially his voice, and it's worse in this game that makes him sound even more annoying, I feel he is a waste of a slot in the new Organization, they could've had an adult Xehanort or even Maleficent take his spot, because they'd be better for it, but oh well.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

I’ve seen the stuff CG posted. I’m so exhausted. I’ll still be modding y’all but like fuck

 

[ZJGamer]

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I still don't get why they brought Vexen back into the Organization, I get the need for the Replica Program, but he's annoying as heck and he has such an ugly design to me, especially his voice, and it's worse in this game that makes him sound even more annoying, I feel he is a waste of a slot in the new Organization, they could've had an adult Xehanort or even Maleficent take his spot, because they'd be better for it, but oh well.

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Actually Vexen makes perfect sense to be in the New Organization XIII to me. I mean think about it: Vexen was the head of the research development in the original Organization. He created the replicas. He knows the deepest darkest secrets of the original Organization's research and experiments. If I was Xehanort, there is no way I would let his brilliant mind slip through my fingers.

On a side note Xaldin should really be in the New Organization XIII. Outside of Xemnas, Saix, and Xigbar it was Xaldin who was the most like Xehanort. His manipulation of the Beast made him seem like one of the more evil members of the original group. Not mention there is a secret report in 358/2 Days where he flat says he doesn't really care about getting a heart. In fact he thinks hearts are a weakness. The only reason he feels like he needs a heart is because there are simply somethings that can't be done without a heart. This line always made me think that he was prime vessel material for Xehanort.

Another side note I bet you anything Luxord joined the New Organization XIII because he's a gambler and he's placing his bets on who he thinks will be the winning side in this conflict, which he believes will be Xehanort.

The real conundrum is why are Marluxia and Larxene, who were clear traitors in the original group, now among the New Organization XIII? And on top of that, why is weak AF and lazy AF Demyx a part of this group?! That just still blows my mind.

 

[UnicornisLord14]

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Actually Vexen makes perfect sense to be in the New Organization XIII to me. I mean think about it: Vexen was the head of the research development in the original Organization. He created the replicas. He knows the deepest darkest secrets of the original Organization's research and experiments. If I was Xehanort, there is no way I would let his brilliant mind slip through my fingers.

On a side note Xaldin should really be in the New Organization XIII. Outside of Xemnas, Saix, and Xigbar it was Xaldin who was the most like Xehanort. His manipulation of the Beast made him seem like one of the more evil members of the original group. Not mention there is a secret report in 358/2 Days where he flat says he doesn't really care about getting a heart. In fact he thinks hearts are a weakness. The only reason he feels like he needs a heart is because there are simply somethings that can't be done without a heart. This line always made me think that he was prime vessel material for Xehanort.

Another side note I bet you anything Luxord joined the New Organization XIII because he's a gambler and he's placing his bets on who he thinks will be the winning side in this conflict, which he believes will be Xehanort.

The real conundrum is why are Marluxia and Larxene, who were clear traitors in the original group, now among the New Organization XIII? And on top of that, why is weak AF and lazy AF Demyx a part of this group?! That just still blows my mind.

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I know and understand his role in the Replica Program, I'm only speaking of Vexen's design, voice, and personality, as well as that awful laugh, but I do get that he's needed for his brilliant mind.

 

[darknessofheart]

I just hope this means we can finally forget about the original leaker because he has apparently been communicating with another leaker and they are both now baiting the community, asking if he should break his original promise not to release critical spoilers.