what if xeahnort is master xeahnort. as in, it is the same guy, but he changed his name to master. everyone assumes that the scene in khII when mickey meets xeahnort is AFTER birth by sleep, but what if it's BEFORE!? xeahnort was always studying hearts and things, but his ideas were always rejected by ATW, so he turned evil. and since he had to call ansem MASTER all the time, he named himself MASTER XEAHNORT.
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AtW found Xehanort after whatever happened in BBS so can't completely agree. You idea's a little confusing @_x
Master Xehanort may have to do with the birth of Xehanort however but not in your way...
Master Xehanort may have to do with the birth of Xehanort however but not in your way...
No one is assuming anything.
The information from the games confirms that scene to be after BBS.
Well, let's put it this way, Xehanort has has stolen names from people before, and he can do it again 
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He only stole Ansems name...
Didn't Nomura say himself that that scene is not only in the game, but towards the end of it? yeah, your theory makes no sense
( THIS IS ALL AN IDEA OF MINE SO DONT START FLAMING)
he's probably DS ( everyone probably says that i guess idk ) and then he's the only one to survive ( other then Terra when he fights sora) and ATW probably finds him and makes him his apprentice and Xehanort probably wanted revenge for what TAV did to MX and begins the study of heartless and nobody ( and i guess unversed as well) and realizes that heartless are powerful(kh1) so he tries to get KH in order to revive MX ( idk how but im just saying ITS AN IDEA) and sora ruins it all for him therefore turning into a Nobody
He regains all the power from being a Nobody and starts Org. 13 and tries to revive KH Again for more power and to destroy sora and ( other things i gues i forgot )
In the End he Dies from the Incredible combo of Sora and Riku
Edit : oh yea maybe the end is ATW finding DS
but then again its a trailer for another kh game so i doubt it
he's probably DS ( everyone probably says that i guess idk ) and then he's the only one to survive ( other then Terra when he fights sora) and ATW probably finds him and makes him his apprentice and Xehanort probably wanted revenge for what TAV did to MX and begins the study of heartless and nobody ( and i guess unversed as well) and realizes that heartless are powerful(kh1) so he tries to get KH in order to revive MX ( idk how but im just saying ITS AN IDEA) and sora ruins it all for him therefore turning into a Nobody
He regains all the power from being a Nobody and starts Org. 13 and tries to revive KH Again for more power and to destroy sora and ( other things i gues i forgot )
In the End he Dies from the Incredible combo of Sora and Riku
Edit : oh yea maybe the end is ATW finding DS
but then again its a trailer for another kh game so i doubt it
^that's not too bad actually. little short but ok.
Xehanort comes after MX. Not before. They could be related, just not in that way.
Xehanort comes after MX. Not before. They could be related, just not in that way.
Disaggreeing =/= flaming.
A lot of people find MX = Xehanort, Terra = Xehanort, or MX + Terra = Xehanort a lot more plausible than DS = Xehanort. So I don't know where you're getting that 'everyone' from... >_>
[QUOTE[and then he's the only one to survive ( other then Terra when he fights sora)[/QUOTE]
Terra =/= LS. Even if he were, it's not relevant.
Why probably? He did find him. :v He said so in the reports.
Xehanort has no memories of his past, so I don't see how exactly he'd want revenge, considering he wouldn't even know what or who he'd get revenge on... >_>
Unversed would have been created and probably destroyed before Xehanort ever met AtW...
Xehanort created Xemnas when he first turned into Ansem SoD. Not when Sora beat Ansem SoD.
Xemnas was already around for a long time. Besides, Roxas joins the Organization right after he's born, so I doubt that in that little of time, Xemnas would have been able to recruit 12 other members.
Or gets reincarnated as a whole being again... :v
The fight with Terra can be seen as being non-canon.
But Xehanort was found with no memories so he couldn't have been after revenge. AtW may have been the one to get him into the study of the heart/Heartless. Don't know if he knew if Nobodies existed at the time, least not in BBS time frame.
Thought he wanted to drown every world in darkness.
Not quite getting the last part.
I'm not really trying to flame you (excuse me if I may sound a little mean), just pointing out some things
Well, let's put it this way, Xehanort has has stolen names from people before, and he can do it again
Xehanort remembered the name "Xehanort", he didn't steal it. After further research of the heart, he and the other apprentices decided to rebel against their master and let their hearts flow into darkness, turning them into Heartless and Nobodies, while sending their master away to another realm. Afterwards, Xehanort named his Heartless Ansem Seeker of Darkness and his Nobody Xemnas, which is an anagram of Ansem.
In summary, he only stole a single name.
oh yea i forgot the whole no memory thing
and sorry i forgot to reread the whole thing
I tried my best
but im still staying with the DS/ Xehanort ( maybe while the battle he lost his momory and when ATW found him he just studied with him )
one quick question when Terra was fighting Sora in KH2fm did he say Xemnas or Xehanort
( cuz if its Xemnas then maybe terra is Xehanort and wants to undo the things his conterparts have done ( Ansem and Xemnas) and if its Xehanort maybe he was DS and he wants to kill him for killing ven or Aqua which ever 1 of the 2 ( probably ven ) ( Thats also just a though and yes i am full of ideas and sometimes they just come out of my mind )
cuz im a very thoughtful person
and sorry i forgot to reread the whole thing
I tried my best
but im still staying with the DS/ Xehanort ( maybe while the battle he lost his momory and when ATW found him he just studied with him )
one quick question when Terra was fighting Sora in KH2fm did he say Xemnas or Xehanort
( cuz if its Xemnas then maybe terra is Xehanort and wants to undo the things his conterparts have done ( Ansem and Xemnas) and if its Xehanort maybe he was DS and he wants to kill him for killing ven or Aqua which ever 1 of the 2 ( probably ven ) ( Thats also just a though and yes i am full of ideas and sometimes they just come out of my mind )
cuz im a very thoughtful person
I believe he said Xehanort. But not much can be drawn from that fight.
oh ok then i stand with my idea of DS/xehanort and how Terra wanted to fight him for killing Ven or Aqua
( yea its still an idea)
Well just have to find out in BBS
EDIT : oh and thanks Antiquity your 1 of the few who don't flame me for what i think =]
( yea its still an idea)
Well just have to find out in BBS
EDIT : oh and thanks Antiquity your 1 of the few who don't flame me for what i think =]
Unless DS fused with Terra or MX or something supernatural happened to him that affected him physically, I doubt it. :v As it is, DS is too short to be Xehanort by himself. And if we wanna say that he had a growth spurt, that'd make him too young to be Xehanort, who's at the very least in his twenties.
He said Xehanort. :v
I don't think so.
From what we can tell from Ansem and Xemnas, Xehanorts are assholes. Plus, considering he spawned those two in the first place, I wouldn't put it past him to be an even bigger asshole than them.
Still don't think DS is a part of Xehanort...
There's too much hinting at MX or even Terra being involved than there is with DS.
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well yea BBS was 10 years ago so maybe he was 15, 16, 17 i guess thus 10 years 25,26,27 and people did say when KM meet Xehanort it was after BBS
well thankxs for that
but then again Terra was being pulled into the Darkness by Malificent and maybe he was mind controled and got over run by power idk fine you win this round
ok but then why would Terra be calling for Xehanort and i oidk if he could be talking about MX but i sorta doubt that
Yeah. :v Like, a few weeks to maybe a month afterwards.
Xehanort only exists as a whole being for maybe a couple months before he turns into a Heartless/Nobody.
MX does stand for Master Xehanort after all... :v
Plus, with it being the Lingering Sentiment, it could very well be Terra's lingering feelings/memories of hatred towards MX left behind after the final battle, given form.
After all, it's not like it'd be the first time memories were given form in KH. >_>; Amirite?
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