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Hi I'm new to this site, & I just wanted to post what I think about the secret movie.
This is my theory on the secret movie. Almost all of my theory is opinion. None of this is proved it is just what I think might happen in KH3.

The ending I think is at the cross road between all realms. There are four realms, light, dark, in-between, Present. Each armored unknown is from one of the realms. The Shadowy figure in the distance is one character we already know, could be one of the Org. members but their real forms (I don’t think heartless). Probably is Xehanort, but it could be any one. Xehanort would make sense because Xemnas (his nobody) wore armor in the final battle. This might mean something.
Now, if you notice, the cross-road at the very beginning of KH2, and at the beginning of Sora’s story in CoM, and at the end of of Riku’s story in Com, all have cross roads. But they differ in three ways
1. Dont have keyblades forming the crossroad
2. Has grass and not dead earth
3. (This one is not often said) the intersection is smaller. The one in the secret movie is big. The cross road in the three places mentioned above are small, and can only fit one person in it.

What about Xigbar saying “You've really put Organization XIII in a pickle. I guess that must be why the Keyblade chose you. But MAN, did it pick a dud this time. You don't look like you're half the hero the others were.”
Now this must be implying that he has seen other keyblade masters. So he probably knows the armored unknowns, since they appear to be keyblade masters. With that being said, he since org members 1-6 (they all knew each other before they were nobodies, as they were Ansem the Wise’s apprentices) they might have known the Keyblade master as well before hand.

What does the armor mean? The armor might mean what Keyblade masters, before the world was separated, might where to show who he is. If that is true, that would mean that Xehanort is an old Keyblade master before his heart was consumed by darkness. So in KH3 as time progresses Sora will where armor, because he is a keyblade master.
What is the thing that the main armored unknown standing on? What I think is that it is something we have never seen before and will be reviled in KH3. But there are other possibilities. It could be the dragon that Xemnas was riding on. But I don’t think that is true because the shapes are different than the dragon.

Also I think that there is another type of being that comes from the heart, they are called endless. They come to be if someone’s heart is taken by light, a Nobody is still made is the process of this.

I think KH3 is going to take place after KH2, but there are going to be flash backs from someone, I think that someone is... (Holds flame shield up) Ansem the wise. I think he still lives but was transported, or transformed. He said that anything could happen when it was about to explode. (I don't think square is going to give Christopher lee up to fast).

What about Kairi holding a keyblade at the end? We know it means something, because Nomura says that it is hinting towards something. But what could it mean? Riku gives her the Keyblade, and the keyblade has a keychain it self. So it is a real keyblade. Maybe she can weild it because she has connections to Sora or Riku. Or she might be the fourth keyblade wielder, the keyblade master of the present realm (I wouldn’t much care for that, but it is a possibility)

Mickey’s bottle at the end. What could it say inside? Kairi looks worried, Riku has a grin on his face, and Sora is looking at it blankly. Probably another adventure, because Riku would like to go on another adventure, but Kairi would not be happy with that, because she is happy the way everything is right now.

Now what about the all the keyblades in the field? If you notice, they do not have any keychains. What could that mean? What my opinion is and the most widely accepted opinion is, they are fake keyblades. (Not that the keyblade sora stabbed himself with in KH1 had no keychain).

Also we will learn a lot more about the Keyblade and Xehanort. I think Xehanort never had a heart to begin with (that is why his name is another and no heart). The keyblade was made by the chasers because the one world was being consumed by darkness and they had to separate the one world into many worlds, which is why it says "one legend says it saved the world, while another says it wrought chaos upon it". Because some view it as saving it from darkness, but others view it being destructive.

For the words at the end here is what I think:
Master of the keyblade: There was one true master of the keyblade, but died long ago.
Memory of Xehanort: Xehanorts memory was changed by Ansem the wise with one of his experiments
Chasers: Keyblade maker
Keyblade war: Before the world was separated people fought over there own believes on whether or not it should be separated.
The lost two: Possibly Riku and Kairi. Or maybe it could be Donald and goofy, that is why Mickey sent that letter in a bottle at the end.
It all began with birth by sleep: Maybe the Keyblade? Or the Chasers themselves. This is the hardest part to make sense out of for me.

Well, that was my theory. Again this is just my opinion. Most none of this is proven. This is just a theory, and I’m not saying at all that this is true.

Thanks for reading.
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I know why the keyblades are in a crossroad shape. Think, keyblades are like scattered grass. countless, it will keep coming back after each death. Keyblades are the grass of the crossroads. Oh and welcome to the forums. I didn't read your theory because I have to read this "DSL for Dummies" to pass my class in able to join Game design.
 

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That sounds like my friend...he's obsessed with Cid...but anyway...

I agree with your theory and that's basically all that I could make up of the movie and knowledge of the games. Though I think that I may go insane if I don't figure out something for the whole "birth by sleep" thing.

I am also new to this site. :)
 

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Some people think that the thing he was standing on was a giant beast, do to the claws and what not you can see. It's obviously dead since it dissapeared into the air, but was it a real beast, a Nobody, a Heartless, or some other new thing?

Also I think that there is another type of being that comes from the heart, they are called endless. They come to be if someone’s heart is taken by light, a Nobody is still made is the process of this

Where'd you get 'endless' from? It's a cool idea but if that where true, then why haven't the princess's of heart become them? After all if any one should have their hearts completely taken over by light, it would be them. wouldn't it?

What does the armor mean? The armor might mean what Keyblade masters, before the world was separated, might where to show who he is. If that is true, that would mean that Xehanort is an old Keyblade master before his heart was consumed by darkness. So in KH3 as time progresses Sora will where armor, because he is a keyblade master

Nice idea, for armor definitely signifies some kind of rank. However armor is mostly made for protection, and it seems like these three character wear them while in the 'Crossroad of Keyblades' Perhaps these 'fake keyblades' as you call them emit some kind of powerful and deadly energy that utterly destroys anyone who comes near and tries to steal them, but these suits of armor protect the three people from the fake keyblades curse. I personally don't think they are 'fake keyblades' but I will write more about tha below.


I think KH3 is going to take place after KH2, but there are going to be flash backs from someone, I think that someone is... (Holds flame shield up) Ansem the wise. I think he still lives but was transported, or transformed. He said that anything could happen when it was about to explode. (I don't think square is going to give Christopher lee up to fast

Nomura (spelling?) said the secret movie took place in the past, yet it could also be thought of as the future. So maybe that secret movie IS the flashback, despite the actual game being in the future.


What about Kairi holding a keyblade at the end? We know it means something, because Nomura says that it is hinting towards something. But what could it mean? Riku gives her the Keyblade, and the keyblade has a keychain it self. So it is a real keyblade. Maybe she can weild it because she has connections to Sora or Riku. Or she might be the fourth keyblade wielder, the keyblade master of the present realm (I wouldn’t much care for that, but it is a possibility)

Okay, here comes my big Keyblade theory. To read the whole thing, click on the link, but basically summerized, it says that Keywielders act as a living, organic Keychain to their Keyblade, and as the wielder and Keyblade stay connected, they adapt to each other over time, changing in appearance, power, and even number to better suit the user (perhaps this is why Roxas can split his Keyblade into Oathkeeper and Oblivion, due to the Keyblade adapting his Nobody habits and form). Kairi was helpless to help Sora, and Riku, sensing her distress, wanted to help her help Sora. His Keyblade sensed his need, and adapted itself to split into two Keyblades, one for himself, and one for Kairi. Therefore, Kairi is not wielding an actual Keyblade, but part of Riku's Keyblade.

For complete theory, go to my post (number 20) and read
http://forums.khinsider.com/showthread.php?t=67493&page=2

Mickey’s bottle at the end. What could it say inside? Kairi looks worried, Riku has a grin on his face, and Sora is looking at it blankly. Probably another adventure, because Riku would like to go on another adventure, but Kairi would not be happy with that, because she is happy the way everything is right now

Agree completely.

Now what about the all the keyblades in the field? If you notice, they do not have any keychains. What could that mean? What my opinion is and the most widely accepted opinion is, they are fake keyblades. (Not that the keyblade sora stabbed himself with in KH1 had no keychain).

Okay, here it comes again. This is part of the same theory I have about the Keyblades.

Anyway, a basic summary about my theory in the Keyblades without Keychains in the crossroads in the secret movie (breathes) is that they are not fake Keyblades, they are perfectly real in fact. Back in the day when a bunch a people had Keyblades (perhaps during the Keyblade War) everyone was fighting with Keyblades, the Keyblade wielders fighting under Keyblade Masters (perhaps like generals in the army), and whenever a wielder or Master died, his or her Keyblade would vanish, ending up in that 'Graveyard of Keyblades' losing their Keychain in the process. Due to the wielder being an organic Keychain to their Keyblade, when a wielder/master died, the ability to use Keychains would die with them. That leads to the question what the natural form of a Keyblade is. Do they all look the same until a Wielder is worthy of enough to use it? Or do they retain the form from their last user?

Anyway, once a Keyblade goes to the 'Graveyard of Keyblades' after it's user dies, its physical body stays there, while its 'spiritual form' goes out to search out a new wielder. This would explain how Riku was going to get the Keyblade, but when he turned to darkness the Keyblade chose Sora instead, zapping to him and forming a keychain in a second. And the reason the three unknowns have to where that armor is because their is some sort of protection around the bodies of the Keyblades, so no one can touch them while they seek out new users. This may explain why the land looks so barren and worn, because most living things can't handle the protection spell or enchantment or whatever.

That explains that, but why do the three Keyblades in the center have Keychains? My expanation is that they were placed there while their users were still alive (perhaps why the three unknowns were picking them back up), and used to lure the users into a trap. That would explain the unknown dark figure walking up out of the dust to meet the three armored unknowns. He had lured them there by stealing their Keyblades and placing them there, where no one else without the armor could get them. Or vice versa, perhaps the the fourth dark figure placed the three (special) Keyblades there for safekeeping against intruders, but the three armored unknowns found the armor needed to get past the curse and steal the Keyblades. The fourth dark one would then be coming to fight them for the Keyblades (a guardian of the dead Keyblades? Oooooooh....)

So all the 'fake keyblades' are actually Keyblades that have dead users, and they reside their while their spiritual counterparts search for new wielders. They are under some sort of spell to protect them from those who would take them without being chosen. IT is most likely that in the Keyblade war, all Keyblades return their, for each side of the battle, good and evil. Either that or there are two graveyards, one for each side. OR perhaps there are four sides, one for each realm, and each realm was fighting against each other, either sharing the same graveyard, in a solemn agreement not to raid the sacred tombs of the dead Keybladers, or they each had seperate graveyards. However, if they shared a Graveyard, then it would make perfect sense, the crossroads. That crossroad divides the graveyard of Keyblades into four sections, one for each realm's Keyblades. PERFECT!!!

Okay that's done. (whipes forehead)

Also we will learn a lot more about the Keyblade and Xehanort. I think Xehanort never had a heart to begin with because he was cloned (that is why his name is another and no heart). The keyblade was made by the chasers because the one world was being consumed by darkness and they had to separate the one world into many worlds, which is why it says "one legend says it saved the world, while another says it wrought chaos upon it". Because some view it as saving it from darkness, but others view it being destructive.

Good idea, but I don't know about the clone. MAYBE their was a past warlord, a Great Keyblade Master that lead the army from the realm of Darkness, and once he was slain, his DNA was inserted into a pregnant woman, who then gave birth to the living clone of the dead Keyblade Master of Darkness. This might have been done for all four realm leaders, therefore creating four 'clones' of them, which are perhaps living on in the two KH games we have played! Think of the possibilities... Who is the clone of the great warriors? Is Sora the clone of Light? Is Riku the clone of In between? IS XEHANORT THE CLONE OF DARKNESS? Who is the clone of present? SO MANY GOOD QUESTIONS.


Master of the keyblade: There was one true master of the keyblade, but died long ago

IMO, Keyblade Masters were the generals of their respective armies. They lead the Keyblade wielders, who maybe commanded lower units of the army. Similar to how Master Jedi were generals to the younger Jedi, and even the least of the Jedi had more rank than a Clone Trooper. Similar to that, but you may be right. All the Keyblade Masters died in that war, EXCEPT THOSE WHO WERE CLONED, namely the super generals (top man, big cheese, you know) and their clones live on to this day (see above)

Memory of Xehanort: Xehanorts memory was changed by Ansem the wise with one of his experiments

Ansem the wise says in his report that Xehanort had already lost his memories when he found him. THe reason that Ansem wanted to experiment on him was not only to unravel mysteries of the heart, but to help Xehanort regain his lost memories. IDEA- Maybe Xehanort some how found out about the clones or that he was in fact a clone of the DARK general, and in order to protect his identity, the remaining members of the dark side wiped his memory.
OR
Maybe he realized he was the dark clone, or just heard about the legend of the 'Graveyard of Keyblades' and tried to go there to get his rightful Keyblade (or maybe just to grab a few to study/wield) When he got there, he didn't have the armor so the enchanment blasted his memory, wiping it clean and throwing him wildly into the galaxy, where he drifted until he landed on Radiant Gardens (Hollow Bastion)

Chasers: Keyblade maker

Perhaps. Of course someone had to make a Keyblade before it could choose someone, but then once the wielder died, it would recycle itself and choose a new user, making it so that Chasers would only have to make Keyblades once and a while.
OR
Perhaps Chasers only made special Keyblades, like for Masters, and the leaders of all realms. You probably wouldn't be able to make your own Keyblade, and even if you did, it might choose someone else. Chasers made Keyblades, which then ran off to choose someone of their own choice. Some Keyblades chose the person the Chaser made it for, due to the way the Chaser crafted it, but left to its own devices, a Keyblade would search out a user, regardless of who it was made for.

PLUS- Chasers need war, right, because otherwise they wouldn't be in business. So maybe THEY unleashed the Heartless, so someone would need a Keyblade (drawing out one or more of the clones perhaps) and start a war. Chasers probably convinced the leaders to create clone of themselves so they could watch over them and let them resume their originals' war when the time was right.

Keyblade war: Before the world was separated people fought over there own believes on whether or not it should be separated.

Perhaps. I think the war was between the our realms, maybe for the same reason among others. Why do people fight in wars anyway? Once we answer that question, we can answer this one.

The lost two: Possibly Riku and Kairi. Or maybe it could be Donald and goofy, that is why Mickey sent that letter in a bottle at the end.

Now that is something I haven't fingured out yet. Perhaps two of the clones were lost track of and so now the Chasers couldn't tell them who they really were, because they were gone from the record. That means two clones are unaccounted for, both for themselves, and the Chasers, who must be really ticked because now they can't start the war again.

One final thing before I close. Once the Keyblade War ended, there was no more need for Keyblades, so all of the Keyblade wielders and Masters were silently wiped out, their Keyblades all returning to the Graveyard of Keyblades, and a curse put upon the place so the Keyblades could no longer search out users. The leaders were killed too, yet their clones lived on, which is why the Keyblades still have Keychains, and could search out users (coughRIkucoughSoracoughMickey)

Yet it says Mickey found his Keyblade in the realm of Darkness. Perhaps that was where the Keyblade was searching when it stumbled upon Mickey there. BADA BING- The mouse was worthy, BAM there's the Keyblade.

GASP- So Much TYPING. Hope you like me theory, and yours is pretty good TYLER9. PMme or reply so we can keep discussing. Anyone else want to comment on Tyler9's theory or mine? We need all the theories and brains we can get to figure out this mystery.
 

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I got the word endless from Another side, Another story from kingdom hearts 1.
When it showed all the words coming up, if you look close you can see three words grouped together, they were:
Heartless
Nobodies
Endless
So I thought what might endless be. At first I thought it might be the soul part of the heart. But then I realized that the Nobodys are the soul and body. So they must be somthing else.

Also if you want to know where I got the 4 realms from here it is:

Ansem Report 12
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I have transcended to an existence of only the heart. I should have come back
as a Heartless, but there is no sign of such a transformation.

My body has surely perished. However, I am different from the other Heartless,
keeping the memories of before, and I have not taken on the form of a
Heartless.
It is evident that there are still many things to be studied.

In order to cross over to the dark realm, which is not this world, you must go
beyond the door of Kingdom Hearts, the heart of all worlds.

The core connected to the world's heart, the place thta will take me to the
world of darkness. (I will record the details in another report...)

There are still so many unknown worlds.

The Realm of the Present..
The Realm of darkness.
The Realm of light.

And, The Realm of in-between.

In which one will I find sanctuary?
 

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I got the word endless from Another side, Another story from kingdom hearts 1.
When it showed all the words coming up, if you look close you can see three words grouped together, they were:
Heartless
Nobodies
Endless
So I thought what might endless be. At first I thought it might be the soul part of the heart. But then I realized that the Nobodys are the soul and body. So they must be somthing else.

Also if you want to know where I got the 4 realms from here it is:

Ansem Report 12
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I have transcended to an existence of only the heart. I should have come back
as a Heartless, but there is no sign of such a transformation.

My body has surely perished. However, I am different from the other Heartless,
keeping the memories of before, and I have not taken on the form of a
Heartless.
It is evident that there are still many things to be studied.

In order to cross over to the dark realm, which is not this world, you must go
beyond the door of Kingdom Hearts, the heart of all worlds.

The core connected to the world's heart, the place thta will take me to the
world of darkness. (I will record the details in another report...)

There are still so many unknown worlds.

The Realm of the Present..
The Realm of darkness.
The Realm of light.

And, The Realm of in-between.

In which one will I find sanctuary?

Yeah I knew where you got the realms from, but know I remember the ENDLESS word you were talking about. I always thought it meant the fact that the threat of the Heartless and Nobodies would be ENDLESS, but your idea is good too. What do you think of the rest of my theory?

PS. Hmmmm, endless... You got me thinking now...
 

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I thought it was like a graveyard at first, but when I looked at stills of the "fake" keyblades (as I put it) some are on the ground. This would represent dishonor and I dont think dead Keyblade people are people to be dishonored (espcally a game made by japanesse people.
I'm gonna keep reading your theory, its so long it takes time to process that all.
Thanks for writeing a long theory thats what I like to see.
 
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