Exception implies contradiction. Rules are supposed to hold keep to constant truth. If something brakes
the rules, you either don't know enough of the circumstance of that the something, or you don't know
enough about what the rules really are. When a rule faces an exception, pursue better understanding
of rules and circumstances, or label it as an exception and thus become ignorant.
And there can't be contradictions? There is no such thing as a rule that is cut and dry completely. There are shades of gray to everything, and thus not everything can be encompassed into a rule. Therefore, that's why we have exceptions. Because there's more to rules than what we see. But the base of the rule stays the same. Body + Soul - Heart= Nobody.
For one with a heart, there are different variations for strength of feelings. Some feelings can be
strong while others can be so numb that they may be barely felt at all. When there is no heart, the is
no emotions, and the absolute emptiness should be apparent and difficult to deal with. I don't see how
Roxas could be the only one in the Organization who wasn't sure he wanted his heart back unless he
had a heart already.
Where does it say that Roxas is the only one who doesn't want his heart back?
I actually gave this alot of thought... So Roxas' memories from being a special nobody
become Sora's memories as well, which attach to his heart, which influence the emotions.
Simple enough concept that seems to check out with the details. Of course fake emotions
can't influence real emotions, so what this idea suggests is that you take the basis of
someone who only has fake emotions and make it the basis of someone that can produce
real emotion. An imprint writing information on a heart... sound like an interesting concept.
Not really. I said nothing about fake emotions. Once Roxas is back inside, and fully tied to Sora, he has the feelings that Sora feels. Therefore, he attaches the real emotion that Sora uses to the memories he has of what he once had. Therefore, fake emotions have no basis on anything.
And this says nothing about my soul having imprinted memories emotions on it, thus letting him have emotions theory.
I mentioned the theory for the purpose of relating, not debating.
How could you not understand that?
I understood what you were saying perfectly well. However, you're not understanding what I'm saying, it looks like. You brought the theory and it's relation to Roxas into a debate that we're having. You only did it for relating purposes, but when you bring something into a debate, you should expect it to be debated. However, since you weren't, and I don't want to debate about it, considering that it's just a 'relation', you should not have brought the theory into the debate at all.
Because that makes it evidence for your position.
And SA, I agree that there is definitely a possibility that Namine can be an Unbirth,
because I, like you, agree that special nobody may not necessarily mean Nobody.
I think you are close-minded about me, to some degree. Because you read that I say that Roxas cannot have a heart due to his Nobody status, and the rules of the Nobodies stand true for me, you don't think at all to ask me about why I would think Roxas has a heart.
Here's how it stands with me. Just because I think Roxas doesn't have a heart due to his Nobody status, does not mean that I believe that Roxas is a Nobody. If you have read other posts of mine before, you'd know that I believe strongly in Nomura's abilities and like for twisting the plot on us and that if he has done it twice or more times on us before, then he will once again.
Therefore, it is not above my thinking to believe that, during one of the new games, Nomura will give us a plot twist and say something to the affect that either Naminé, Roxas, or Xion are not, in fact, actually Nobodies at all.
Perhaps Ansem the Wise isn't as wise as we thought, and he didn't actually have a clue what he was writing about, and perhaps Roxas and/or Naminé were mistaken for Nobodies when, in fact, they are not.
However, until this comes up, I believe fully in the rules that we have been given so far, and as such, Roxas is still a Nobody, and therefore cannot have a heart. I'm not goint to throw the rulebook out the window just because I want to believe Roxas has a heart, come hell or high water.
I suppose, in your eyes, that still makes me close-minded, doesn't it?
