Pixar Worlds?

[Oracle Spockanort]

It's not as easy as that. You see, Nomura has stated, when it comes to Marvel and Lucasfilm, he has to contact those subsidiaries separately in regards to their properties inclusion in the series.

Of course he has to contact them. I didn't say he didn't.

Pixar can work in Kingdom Hearts III, because, as part of the Disney Animation Studios re-structure, John Lasseter and Ed Catmull had presidency over both companies equally. And as far as live Disney movies, because that's part of the general Disney catalog and not restricted to subsidiaries out of the primary Disney pool, it's just not a realistically viable inclusion.

"Eurogamer also asked about Disney, and if they have set any limitations at this early stage yet, to which the answer is "no". There are many new and old IPs from Disney that they are currently considering to incorporate and work with, but so far, they have had free reign completely."
Eurogamer Interviews Tai Yasue - Kingdom Hearts 3, Nomura's departure from FFXV, Unreal Engine - Interviews - Kingdom Hearts Insider

When KH began, Disney was a large pool to pool from, but now with the additions of the Star Wars and Marvel properties, it is goddamn huge. Has this made it difficult to parse between which franchises you would like to insert into the ever-expanding universe?

The fact that we have to pick, and the difficulty associated with that, is something we have faced with each installment since the beginning. We pick more IPs than necessary and consult the schedule and feasibility of actually getting our designs to work. It’s been a repeating process.
Tetsuya Nomura talks Drive Forms and more with Destructoid! - News - Kingdom Hearts Insider

 

[Chuman]

It's not as easy as that. You see, Nomura has stated, when it comes to Marvel and Lucasfilm, he has to contact those subsidiaries separately in regards to their properties inclusion in the series. Pixar can work in Kingdom Hearts III, because, as part of the Disney Animation Studios re-structure, John Lasseter and Ed Catmull had presidency over both companies equally. And as far as live Disney movies, because that's part of the general Disney catalog and not restricted to subsidiaries out of the primary Disney pool.

lol she basically said the same thing. "can we legally use this?"

KH is no different than Disney Infinity as far as being a Disney game developed by an outside company. Activision has spiderman game rights, EA has star wars rights, they had literally no issues using the properties because they have ownership over the IPs themselves. if they were making a project that revolved around them, it would be something different.

another point is, DI won't be using wolverine or deadpool which are huge money makers because they don't have the movie rights and they aren't giving free advertisement to their own competitors, especially if they have to pay them royalties.

 

[Alpha Baymax]

"Eurogamer also asked about Disney, and if they have set any limitations at this early stage yet, to which the answer is "no". There are many new and old IPs from Disney that they are currently considering to incorporate and work with, but so far, they have had free reign completely."
Eurogamer Interviews Tai Yasue - Kingdom Hearts 3, Nomura's departure from FFXV, Unreal Engine - Interviews - Kingdom Hearts Insider

That was December 4th 2014. Tai Yasue was also the same person who stated the idea of the Frozen world being a musical which was quickly debunked by Nomura. Here's the latest say on the inclusion of Marvel and Lucasfilm by Nomura himself.

Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts III? Nomura says it's complicated | GamesBeat | Games | by Mike Minotti

Here's the extract. This was June 16th 2015.

“Of course, Disney Interactive and Square Enix [are the] publisher,” Nomura said. “They’re combining their forces to bring Kingdom Hearts. So, the other associated companies under Disney [are] not something that is as simple as us consulting with Disney Interactive. So, unfortunately, the lineup is kind of considered as different.”

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

That was December 4th 2014. Tai Yasue was also the same person who stated the idea of the Frozen world being a musical which was quickly debunked by Nomura. Here's the latest say on the inclusion of Marvel and Lucasfilm by Nomura himself.

Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts III? Nomura says it's complicated | GamesBeat | Games | by Mike Minotti

Here's the extract. This was June 16th 2015.

“Of course, Disney Interactive and Square Enix [are the] publisher,” Nomura said. “They’re combining their forces to bring Kingdom Hearts. So, the other associated companies under Disney [are] not something that is as simple as us consulting with Disney Interactive. So, unfortunately, the lineup is kind of considered as different.”

I'm not too sure why we are debating, though? You are saying it is a legal thing and I'm saying it is a legal thing.

 

[Ventus_]

Okay, so originally I thought it'd be impossible for Pixar movies to be in KH, since it's not technically Disney.

NOT true, Pixar is an extension of Disney, ergo Disney does own Pixar properties.

A Bug's Life would be fantastic, the segregation storyline lends itself well.

The children's screams in Monster's Inc could be a whole new type of darkness, perhaps they were set loose and escaped Monstrapolis manifesting a being of fears which spread to the other worlds, the Hollows would be a great name for that.
Randall would be one hell of a villain battle with his ability to become invisible or camouflage.

Sora would find out Riku knew monsters were real but didn't want to admit he was afraid of them so he tried to convince Sora they weren't real.

and this!

There is an Elsa being manipulated by the villain council possibility with Frozen, there was a conversation on this in the 'Worlds of Kingdom Hearts III' sticky.
In fact I believe it near impossible for them NOT to use Frozen, it being the most popular film of this century.

How about The Incredibles? Syndrome's resentment of supers is a very complex darkness that would put Sora in an interesting role opposite him since he could be considered a super and perhaps he even obtains a special superhero ability while he's in their world.

I believe there could also be potential in Wall-E. Auto could be trying to convince the captain that their world hasn't been recovered from the darkness because the ship was programmed by Xehanort to collect the refugees of their world as specimans in his creation of Kingdom Hearts but Sora, Wall-E and Eve prove otherwise.

I'm learning myself to expand my mind from it's sometimes single demension, it's very liberating. I recommend trying it.

 

[redcrown]

........anyone else not want a Bug's Life solely because they don't want to see Sora transformed into a bug? or a car for that matter. both of those sound so wrong.

 

[Ventus_]

........anyone else not want a Bug's Life solely because they don't want to see Sora transformed into a bug? or a car for that matter. both of those sound so wrong.

It might not be necessary to transform Sora into a bug, I believe simply shrinking him could work.
I'll agree though Cars wouldn't work, it doesn't even have an antagonist. It's more of a self-discovery storyline.

 

[Alpha Baymax]

I'm not too sure why we are debating, though? You are saying it is a legal thing and I'm saying it is a legal thing.

I wouldn't say it's a debate, rather, it's what Square Enix has access to for the Disney library regarding Kingdom Hearts. To clarify, here are all the Disney cinematic subsidiaries.

Disney Animation
DisneyToon Studios
Disney Live Action
Touchstone Pictures
Pixar
Marvel
Lucasfilm

What I am trying to stress is that Square Enix does not have access to Marvel and Lucasfilm because they have their own dedicated divisions that function interdependently and differently from their Disney counterparts (unlike Disney Animation, Disney Live Action, DisneyToon Studios and Touchstone Pictures) and they get free reign for Pixar because John Lasseter is the Chief Creative Officer for both Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar. So in retrospect, this is what Square Enix truly has access to in regards to the Disney cinematic subsidiaries.

Disney Animation
DisneyToon Studios
Disney Live Action
Touchstone Pictures
Pixar

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

What I am trying to stress is that Square Enix does not have access to Marvel and Lucasfilm because they have their own dedicated divisions that function interdependently and differently from their Disney counterparts

Except they do have access, just not easy access. Nothing in Nomura's statement said that they don't have the ability to make use of the properties, only that the ease of it is not as simple as contacting Disney Interactive about it.

There are also a ton of legalities wrapped up in Marvel and Lucasfilm, but exceptions have been made in the past before for much lesser.

 

[Alpha Baymax]

Except they do have access, just not easy access. Nothing in Nomura's statement said that they don't have the ability to make use of the properties, only that the ease of it is not as simple as contacting Disney Interactive about it.

There are also a ton of legalities wrapped up in Marvel and Lucasfilm, but exceptions have been made in the past before for much lesser.

I don't disagree with you on that part. I just think that, with the deadline of delivering Kingdom Hearts III and the loopholes required to use all the Disney properties, from what I can interpret with Nomura's quote, they just don't have the time and hassle to put in any Marvel or Lucasfilm properties due to lineup complications and associations with said subsidiaries.

 

[Scorpio]

inside out can be used as an in-depth look at somebody's heart, maybe to repair ven's heart from, well, the inside out. helping him deal with his emotions and issues. to him, anger is vanitas, fear is eraqus, disgust is xehanort, joy is aqua and terra is sadness.

You sir, have won the Internet.

Appropriating the basic idea of Inside Out into the main thread of the game's story, using it as a world-within-a-world a la Space Paranoids, is a brilliant idea (And certainly one Square is not a stranger to, since the idea is a similar sub-plot in FF6 where the rest of the party venture into Cyan's mind to help him achieve inner peace). I've assumed so far that the path to re-awaken Ven will require some type of Maguffins necessary to explore the worlds (i.e. Terra's sword in Neverland and Stitch's broken Wayfinder in [INSERT ULTIMATE LILO & STITCH WORLD NAME HERE], which would make returning to those worlds have a point), but the final step might be venturing into Ven's very mind, setting up what you just said.

 

[redcrown]

Just remembered I don't want to see Sora as a fish either. gross.
that world would barely be fun in KH anyway.

Incredibles though, yes please.

 

[Alpha Baymax]

Just remembered I don't want to see Sora as a fish either. gross.
that world would barely be fun in KH anyway.

Incredibles though, yes please.

The Incredible wont happen because of Big Hero 6's inclusion. They're not out of the question to be summons though!

 

[Ventus_]

The Incredible wont happen because of Big Hero 6's inclusion. They're not out of the question to be summons though!

Why is this? The Incredibles still has a significantly different concept than Big Hero 6 in spite of their sharing a superhero theme.

 

[BlackOsprey]

Why is this? The Incredibles still has a significantly different concept than Big Hero 6 in spite of their sharing a superhero theme.

If anything, The Incredibles would be left out because its themes focus on family more than anything else.

 

[Deleted member]

Idk, if Peter Pan and Jungle Book fight for the same "world type" despite not really being all that similar to each other, I imagine BH6 and Incredibles would as well. There is likely only room for one Superhero World Type in a single game. The family theme would also definitely help tip the scale to BH6 as well I think.

 

[Face My Fears]

Idk, if Peter Pan and Jungle Book fight for the same "world type" despite not really being all that similar to each other, I imagine BH6 and Incredibles would as well. There is likely only room for one Superhero World Type in a single game. The family theme would also definitely help tip the scale to BH6 as well I think.

I don't think it's so much "world type" (or maybe it is) but I think the reason The Incredibles and Big Hero 6 being in the game at the same time would be off-putting is that they're both "super hero themed". It's kind of like if Never Land and Port Royal were in the same game. They're not the same, but the ideas and locations (pirate ship, islands etc) are similar.

Thinking about it, they've done a pretty good job of selecting worlds with different aesthetics.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think it's so much "world type" (or maybe it is) but I think the reason The Incredibles and Big Hero 6 being in the game at the same time would be off-putting is that they're both "super hero themed". It's kind of like if Never Land and Port Royal were in the same game. They're not the same, but the ideas and locations (pirate ship, islands etc) are similar.

That's pretty much exactly what I was talking about and what I was referring to by "world type"?

 

[Alpha Baymax]

Why is this? The Incredibles still has a significantly different concept than Big Hero 6 in spite of their sharing a superhero theme.

Just like Audo said, imilar world type. It's like having The Jungle Book and Tarzan in the same Kingdom hearts game. Regardless, Pixar will be in this game. There's too many hints at its inclusion.

 

[redcrown]

Regardless, Pixar will be in this game. There's too many hints at its inclusion.

What specific hints? In interviews or the games themselves?

I will be thoroughly shocked if Toy Story, the infamous model of Pixar, is not included in KH3. I 100% expect it to to show up as a world. Fans have been dying for it and this would be the perfect game to finally introduce it in KH. Plus as MS said Disney and Pixar are pretty much the same company now, so legal hinders couldn't really prevent it from happening.

Monsters Inc would really fit in KH3 second to Toy Story.