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Sora-Sky

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Ok I completed KH2 last Night, yes I know...very late, but I live in the UK and it takes me a while..anyways.
But what I semi-dont understand is the deal with Roxas. I mean you start out by being him right, and he's unaware that he's Sora's nobody and blah blah, but why is it that they showed 2 sides of him, one where he's 'normal' Roxas in his White/black clothes and the other one where he is in the organisation, and his personalities are totally different. He doesn't remember he is/was in the organisation when he is normal Roxas but towards the end of the game, mainly The World that never was, he is organisation Roxas and hates Sora and battles him?? in that scene by Memory's Skyscraper, which was also confusing.

If anyone knows say something, its probably been explained but I just didn't get it.
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P.s. Who are the 2 unknowns in that lake in 'Deep Dive' and why are they THERE.
 

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Ok I completed KH2 last Night, yes I know...very late, but I live in the UK and it takes me a while..anyways.
But what I semi-dont understand is the deal with Roxas. I mean you start out by being him right, and he's unaware that he's Sora's nobody and blah blah, but why is it that they showed 2 sides of him, one where he's 'normal' Roxas in his White/black clothes and the other one where he is in the organisation, and his personalities are totally different. He doesn't remember he is/was in the organisation when he is normal Roxas but towards the end of the game, mainly The World that never was, he is organisation Roxas and hates Sora and battles him?? in that scene by Memory's Skyscraper, which was also confusing.

If anyone knows say something, its probably been explained but I just didn't get it.
Thanks


P.s. Who are the 2 unknowns in that lake in 'Deep Dive' and why are they THERE.

Well, Roxas lost his old memories, and with it, his old personality. He fought Sora for unknown reasons, but most think he wanted to test Sora.

The Unkowns are Xemnas and Roxas. Xemnas is the sitting one, and Roxas is the other.... I think...
 

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Okay, I get he lost his memories but which is the real/original Roxas, I don't mean Sora I mean Roxas's nobody, there's 2 personalities of him. Did he lose he memories of being in the Org. If so, that must be his original nobody personality.... it doesn't give much info about who his original nobody is, except he's 'bad' and fights/dislikes Sora..

and another question, does Memory's Skyscraper have a lot of meaning, as it was in Deep Dive where Riku and Roxas were, and there was a cutscene of Sora and Roxas there.
 

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memory skyscraper is just an awesome battle area and the name probably comes from roxas and his memories. the roxas u control at the beginning was with his memories lost and replaced so he thinks that he lives in the fake twilight town. it was part of diz's plot to complete sora. roxas was originally an org member obv and when u fight him at the skyscraper he has all of his memories so he's in his org coat but probably wants to test sora. is there anything else. i should be able to answer >_>.
 

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Roxas lost his Org. memories when he battled Riku/Xehanort's Heartless when he did he got so banged up that only when he last talks to Naminé, he began to remember about the Org. Naminé in the mean time she was putting Soras memories in order and that affected Roxas. thats y he had all the dreams.
 

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i always thought namine had erased roxas' memories and made the new memories(cuz that's her specialty) but had 2nd thoughts when he was almost gone. i doubt diz thought he would have riku fight him and erase his memory perfectly without doing severe damage to roxas. plus if u lost ur memory by getting beaten up i dont think u will remember just because sora is awakening.
 

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i always thought namine had erased roxas' memories and made the new memories(cuz that's her specialty) but had 2nd thoughts when he was almost gone. i doubt diz thought he would have riku fight him and erase his memory perfectly without doing severe damage to roxas. plus if u lost ur memory by getting beaten up i dont think u will remember just because sora is awakening.

yeah that's her speciality but she only was commended by DiZ and the promise that she made Sora @ the end of CoM
 

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I think it goes like this:

Roxas had his Org. personality but then, lost his memories because of DiZ's plan. His memories remained within him, they just weren't "chained".

He started another life, then. And created another personality with it. When his memories began to chain together, he started to remember how he was, but didn't return to completely being his old self. He then fused with Sora, and his two personalities went with him.

When Sora reached TWTNW, Roxas' old self awakened. His self that disliked Sora, and that was, now, within Sora. This self used it's power to summon the Nobodies and to transport himself and Sora to another place, to know why Roxas chose to fuse with him, instead of doing what he wanted before - fight him.

After the battle - after losing - he looks at Sora and , satisfied, smiles and says 'you make a good other', thus accepting Sora, and granting him his power (that's also why you can only obtain Final Form from this point on).
 

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I think it goes like this:

Roxas had his Org. personality but then, lost his memories because of DiZ's plan. His memories remained within him, they just weren't "chained".

He started another life, then. And created another personality with it. When his memories began to chain together, he started to remember how he was, but didn't return to completely being his old self. He then fused with Sora, and his two personalities went with him.

When Sora reached TWTNW, Roxas' old self awakened. His self that disliked Sora, and that was, now, within Sora. This self used it's power to summon the Nobodies and to transport himself and Sora to another place, to know why Roxas chose to fuse with him, instead of doing what he wanted before - fight him.

After the battle - after losing - he looks at Sora and , satisfied, smiles and says 'you make a good other', thus accepting Sora, and granting him his power (that's also why you can only obtain Final Form from this point on).

That makes the most sense and it's chronological, thanks a bunch.
 

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roxas lost his memories cause in castle oblivion namine was messing around with soras memories. roxas forgot about org. 13 and all that stuff. meanwhile diz made up another T T and gave roxas the memory of living there. while sora was sleeping roxas was rembering everything sora knew and all the lost memories of his. cause even though namine didnt mean to effect roxas, but she did cause he is connected to sora. and when roxas was looking in the manson he finaly rembered cause sora was close to awakening.
 

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OK, here's the deal. Roxas was Organization XIII's final member - Number Thirteen. He was "the key." At that time, he did not know about his true self - Sora being his true "host," if you will, and Roxas thinking of himself as his nobody or anything. He fought him for those purposes, because his "Organization - self" was still in The World That Never Was. That place is just full of bad/good memories and in this case, it would be bad memories of Roxas. Roxas was beaten up by Riku near the Skyscraper where you fight Xemnas, one on one, with Sora. Riku was working with Diz to get Sora back to normal. Riku basically sacrificed himself to the darkness for Sora. Riku took Roxas back to Twilight Town with him, where they made a second Twilight Town - the computerized version. Roxas was just passing away time, until Sora regained all his Kingdom Hearts I memories and as he forgot his Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories memories (sorry for being redundant). After that Sora and Roxas sort of "fused." Roxas lived on through Sora and that's that. I probably am wrong in my intro. to answer your question, so If I am, I apologize ahead of time.
 

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i would say something but everything that could possibly be said has been taken. so ill just type this pointless post
 

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No no!
When roxas was getting those waves and flash backs he started remebering all the organization stuff and who sora was. He even remebered Axel at the end before they fought if you remeber. He got his full memory when he could use both keyblades. but he knew that the organization was bad since he was soras nobody and anyway before that he wasnt bad anyway since he left the organization. And he fought sora so he could become one with sora and know that he really is the better half.
 

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That does seem logical, but you forget that Sora could not recognize/remember who he was, although he displayed the emotions of Roxas. If you remember, when Sora was going to go to Yen Sid's Tower with Donald and Goofy, he shed a tear while saying bye to Hayner, Pence, and Olette.

Speaking of Yen Sid, what happens to him?
 

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lol i guess he was just in the begging of the game to inform you. maybe you get to see more of him in kh2:fm+? maybe
 
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