Red-Eyed Unknown

[Lonbilly]

I have a feeling that HotD will become more important in a story about Aqua, probably BbSv2 if that is the mysterious game that still has yet to come. It would seem fitting considering HotD didn't die as far as we know, and Aqua has had 10 years time to encounter it again. The only reason I would go against HotD is that the RE Unknown was hidden among images of all people who needed to be saved (not really hidden, more like shown). Anyways, HotD doesn't really have anything to do with those people besides Aqua facing off against him, I think HotD might come back and fight Sora and co. when he goes to the RoD to save Aqua.

See, but we also see Guardian, so I don't think it's all people we need to save unless HotD is someone who is held captive by darkness or something. I really hoping HotD does get a more relevant role, since he seems really enigmatic, and when you think about it, it would make more sense for the purpose of the Secret Episode since it doesn't do that much except show what we could encounter in BbSv2 and add the fact that there is going to be some sort of continuation.

Hell, development was going on the same time as DDD, right? It's possible HotD was thrown in to FM because he was/is someone/something important to KH, to an extent. Which, in my opinion, I think would be perfect.

 

[Mr Yippie]

im more intrigued as to why Guardian was featured

 

[Darkrider S]

IT'S MADARA UCHIHA !:O The eyessss The eyessss ! I'd love to fight Susanoo as a Boss battle for this :3.

Ontopic: To be honets, I have no idea who this could be. There are loads of people it could be really. It could even be someone.somethign we didnt expect at all. Like how when we first Saw Xemnas in KH Final Mix. No one really knew till it was confirmed . But im curious as to something I read a few posts back, something saying that Nomura said something about a Gold-eye dude being MF?? :s By Gold-eyed does he mean Young Xehanort? Just to be sure.

 

[Absolute]

Ontopic: To be honets, I have no idea who this could be. There are loads of people it could be really. It could even be someone.somethign we didnt expect at all. Like how when we first Saw Xemnas in KH Final Mix. No one really knew till it was confirmed . But im curious as to something I read a few posts back, something saying that Nomura said something about a Gold-eye dude being MF?? :s By Gold-eyed does he mean Young Xehanort? Just to be sure.

Nomura said in an interview recently that the Mysterious Figure that manipulated time in BBS is the gold eyed person seen in 3D. However, the interesting thing is that Nomura never actually referred to the gold eyed person by a name.

 

[kupo1121]

See, but we also see Guardian, so I don't think it's all people we need to save unless HotD is someone who is held captive by darkness or something. I really hoping HotD does get a more relevant role, since he seems really enigmatic, and when you think about it, it would make more sense for the purpose of the Secret Episode since it doesn't do that much except show what we could encounter in BbSv2 and add the fact that there is going to be some sort of continuation.

Hell, development was going on the same time as DDD, right? It's possible HotD was thrown in to FM because he was/is someone/something important to KH, to an extent. Which, in my opinion, I think would be perfect.

HotD could very easily have a relevant role in BbSv2 and I think it would make a lot more sense. You are right about the Guardian thing, so I'm not sure how that plays into it, but I'm not sure if I would like HotD to be in DDD, and if HotD turns out to be non-canon even, I'd be Okay with that considering he was only in FM, and many people didn't get to verse him. I'm not saying non-canon as in HotD be ignored as if it never happened, but more like he could be taste of what enemies would be like in BbSv2.

 

[Lonbilly]

HotD could very easily have a relevant role in BbSv2 and I think it would make a lot more sense. You are right about the Guardian thing, so I'm not sure how that plays into it, but I'm not sure if I would like HotD to be in DDD, and if HotD turns out to be non-canon even, I'd be Okay with that considering he was only in FM, and many people didn't get to verse him. I'm not saying non-canon as in HotD be ignored as if it never happened, but more like he could be taste of what enemies would be like in BbSv2.

True. I wouldn't mind either happening. Though, I think it would be cool to see HotD referenced in the ending/in a dive to the RoD if they go there.

 

[Genocide]

Nomura said in an interview recently that the Mysterious Figure that manipulated time in BBS is the gold eyed person seen in 3D. However, the interesting thing is that Nomura never actually referred to the gold eyed person by a name.

He doesn't have to. It's blatant.

I think it might be a Replica that or 1 of the cloked figures that might be in the new organization

It's been a while since I've been here. What if this is that "Red Eye" people were going on about just inside of a coat.

Those keep the darkness out. Well, to keep the darkness out, they have to keep the darkness in, right?

 

[Key of Valor]

He doesn't have to. It's blatant.

If Nomura thought it was that obvious, then why did he make the Mysterious Figure sound like a big mystery, saying that the fans will learn more about who the character really is throughout the game? We already know who Master Xehanort is.

 

[Genocide]

If Nomura thought it was that obvious, then why did he make the Mysterious Figure sound like a big mystery, saying that the fans will learn more about who the character really is throughout the game? We already know who Master Xehanort is.

So you're saying it's not obvious?
This is the guy who tries to make you think that Xion's fate is sad and that being a Nobody is a terrible fate. He doesn't think it's obvious to us. He doesn't know we know. Might I refer you to Master Xehanort? Who was being denied as being Xehanort. And we all know how that turned out.

The pattern is repeating. We called it before and people are denying it.

Actually....I think it was you that I literally had this conversation about Master Xehanort. To which it was correct. And as stated before, this pattern is repeating.

If you don't see it, it's your problem, but don't say it aint what it is because of waiting for official confirmation.

EDIT:

In fact it was you. We were arguing this exact conversation, except about Master Xehanort. I remember that conversation.

Hey, you were telling me that because of waiting for official confirmation, we don't know [or had no way of knowing] UEM had anyting to do with Xehanort. So how'd waiting for that official confirmation work out for you?

 

[Key of Valor]

So you're saying it's not obvious?
This is the guy who tries to make you think that Xion's fate is sad and that being a Nobody is a terrible fate. He doesn't think it's obvious to us. He doesn't know we know. Might I refer you to Master Xehanort? Who was being denied as being Xehanort. And we all know how that turned out.

The pattern is repeating. We called it before and people are denying it.

Actually....I think it was you that I literally had this conversation about Master Xehanort. To which it was correct. And as stated before, this pattern is repeating.

If you don't see it, it's your problem, but don't say it aint what it is because of waiting for official confirmation.

So you admit that Nomura didn't confirm that the Mysterious Figure was Master Xehanort and thus didn't intend to specifically communicate that information? That is all I wanted to hear.

 

[Genocide]

So you admit that Nomura didn't confirm that the Mysterious Figure was Master Xehanort and thus didn't intend to specifically communicate that information? That is all I wanted to hear.

I'm saying he doesn't have to confirm what we already know.
Like MX, eh?
Hey, you still go to that other shitty KH site?

 

[rac7d]

What if this thing is a Black Mage. Like the ones in Final Fantasy IX.

didnt they have yellow eyes liek the heartless

 

[Key of Valor]

I'm saying he doesn't have to confirm what we already know.

That sounds like backwards logic. In a series where physical appearances can be deceiving, I don't think it's very wise to assume such things.

 

[Genocide]

So how did this conversation end last time when you said we had no way of knowing UEM wasn't
Xehanort? How did that work out for you?

 

[Key of Valor]

So how did this conversation end last time when you said we had no way of knowing UEM wasn't
Xehanort? How did that work out for you?

I don't recall the conversation you are referring to...

I remember conversations where I suggested things that were proven right in later games and interviews. I suspect the topic we are currently discussing will follow such a trend.

 

[Genocide]

Of course you don't.

The trend of "misdirection" only applies to Xehanort and Vanitas. However, the trend of looking alike has more do's than don't.

Ven - Roxas - Sora
Terra - Xemnas
Master Xehanort - Xehanort

 

[Kingdomon]

I personally tend to think it could maybe the combined torment connected to Sora (meaning Aqua's, Terra's, Ven's, Xion's, Naminé's and Roxas's pain thrown together) given a form as a big, humanoid nightmare.

That works.

Gelandporn also already noted this one. These red eyes are nightmare eyes, not unversed.

Yeah. Correct me if i'm wrong, but each unversed have different "emotion" eyes, right?

I think the Red-Eyed Unknown is the Mysterious Figure. If the Mysterious Figure is a shapeshifter (which I believe he is) then even that entity needs a true form. I think the Red-Eyed Unknown is the Mysterious Figure's true form.

Makes sense to me. I also believe that is the Mysterious Figure.

 

[Xking]

ok ppl listen the red eye unknown has Nightmare eyes we all kno that its not an unversed or heartless or anything this is a nightmare hooded figure and we will find out more about this some time soon

 

[Nutari]

ok ppl listen the red eye unknown has Nightmare eyes we all kno that its not an unversed or heartless or anything this is a nightmare hooded figure and we will find out more about this some time soon

And you just proved Proffesors point. Looks can be decieving. You are not able to jump to any conclusions. This is why these threads thrive on speculation

 

[Genocide]

CAN Nightmares manifest themselves in the real world?