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is anyone else excited to see what they will do with riku in dream drop distance?
i enjoyed playing as him in chain of memories and days, but i really want to see an expansion in what he can do. Riku has always been very limited compared to the more versatile nature of sora, which makes him more intresting but would like there playing field to be even ,mabey more dark magic like gravity and meteor hmm

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i will be delighted to get cocky riku back the, one pre darkeness funk
 
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I love Riku, but I fear for him in DDD. He was already given a full arc from KH1-KH2, starting off falling into darkness, struggling with his darkness, and then gaining some redemption by KH1's end. Then he struggled to essentially keep away from darkness, and succeeded in learning how to use his darkness for good in CoM. Then, in KH2, he used his knowledge of darkness to help his friends and complete his redemption (demonstrated by the whole "you don't belong in the dark realm any more, Riku"). So now he's pretty much completely redeemed.

What's left? Riku turns to darkness... again? Riku redeems himself... again? Riku struggles with darkness... again? It's possible they could do something new, especially with the trust theme, but I sense a lot of pointless angst coming.
 

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Hopefully he become less emo, and whinny. You beat the darkness kdi, move on with your life. Get a girl or something.
 

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Hopefully he become less emo, and whinny. You beat the darkness kdi, move on with your life. Get a girl or something.

I have a sinking feeling that he's going to have to go back into the darkness - but fortunately for entirely different reasons. He's honestly the only character that has all of the right tools to find Terra. Hasn't Nomura said that everything happens in Kingdom Hearts for a reason? I don't think the Terra and Riku connection is just for character parallels between the two. Terra has to do what Riku has already done.
 

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Then he better do something totally BA to earn my respect. His whole redeeming thing in COM was something he should have done in the first place.
 

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Honestly, I don't see Riku falling back into the darkness. Tagline for this game says something like when light and darkness stand beside each other, light falls to darkness.

Sounds like Sora will be doing the falling.

I imagine Riku will be the character that he has been developed into: caring, protective, understanding, and has become a hero, but with a tiny bit of cocky when it comes to his banter toward his enemies.

Riku will probably use most dark magic with a tiny bit of light magic and the only way to develop his play style is to make him a bit more versatile. He'll probably get keychains themed to him and the enemies he fights, Riku-specific attacks, his own summons (or D-Links depending on what summon system they use)
 

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I love Riku, but I fear for him in DDD. He was already given a full arc from KH1-KH2, starting off falling into darkness, struggling with his darkness, and then gaining some redemption by KH1's end. Then he struggled to essentially keep away from darkness, and succeeded in learning how to use his darkness for good in CoM. Then, in KH2, he used his knowledge of darkness to help his friends and complete his redemption (demonstrated by the whole "you don't belong in the dark realm any more, Riku"). So now he's pretty much completely redeemed.

What's left? Riku turns to darkness... again? Riku redeems himself... again? Riku struggles with darkness... again? It's possible they could do something new, especially with the trust theme, but I sense a lot of pointless angst coming.

I have this feeling that Noruma might end up killing off Riku eventually in the plotline after 3D with later titles (KHIII maybe?). I think Riku's character was developed better then Sora's during KH1 and COM but KHII I thought he was used horribly and yeah I know why they placed him as a no named NPC throughout the game. I still thought he should have been handled better then being a no named support character. With 3D I should expect him to be treated better especially if trust with him and Sora is the theme of the gameplay and a push for him as the main character again. I think too that Noruma will convolute his personality with a pointless angst attitude which could lead to becoming the role of the fallen hero just like Axel. I understand that the ending of BBS does give indication he might come back in KHIII but how can they if he was evaporate into darkness after he kill himself just like the other powerful nobodies that died. I just have this strange feeling this might happened to Riku eventually and 3D might be the start of it if Noruma goes that route with him.
 

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I have this feeling that Noruma might end up killing off Riku eventually in the plotline after 3D with later titles (KHIII maybe?). I think Riku's character was developed better then Sora's during KH1 and COM but KHII I thought he was used horribly and yeah I know why they placed him as a no named NPCs throughout the game. I still thought he should have been handled better then be a no named support character. With 3D I should expect him to be treated better especially if trust with him and Sora is theme of the gameplay and a push for him as the main character again. I think too that Noruma will convolute his personality with a pointless angst attitude which could lead to becoming the role of the fallen hero just like Axel. I understand that the ending of BBS does give indication he might come back in KHIII but how can they if he was evaporate into darkness after he kill himself just like the other powerful nobodies that died. I just have this strange feeling this might happened to Riku eventually and 3D might be the start of if Noruma goes that route with him.


Um, because you pretty much play an entire Riku scenario in DDD. Riku is probably the most developed character in KH and the fact every time we see Riku in a game, he is doing something that gives his character more depth. Re:coded definitely showed how much the real Riku is developed, since the data Riku is a reflection of the real one. DDD is the time where we see all of that development shine, and like I said in my own post, we won't see Riku falling. We will most likely see Sora doing a nosedive.

Riku has never been to better Sora, rather Sora was meant to better Riku. Sora has had the smallest bit of development in the series.

(and just to note I'm not saying any of this as a definite, so please don't read it that way)
 
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Um, because you pretty much play an entire Riku scenario in DDD. Riku is probably the most developed character in KH and the fact every time we see Riku in a game, he is doing something that gives his character more depth. Re:coded definitely showed how much the real Riku is developed, since the data Riku is a reflection of the real one. DDD is the time where we see all of that development shine, and like I said in my own post, we won't see Riku falling. We will most likely see Sora doing a nosedive.

Riku has never been to better Sora, rather Sora was meant to better Riku. Sora has had the smallest bit of development in the series

I would like for that to happen because Riku has so much going for him and I do see Riku passing the mastery exam and Sora falling it. If I recall correctly didn't Noruma say that the KH story ends when Sora's story ends well that indicates he won't take nose dive and become the falling hero. I mean if that were to happen then the series would end and I doubt it would end after KHIII if that's what you were implying about Sora taking a nose dive. I have no doubt that Riku will be ahead of Sora by KHIII with more skill and being a Keyblade master but with the way Noruma has been constructing the story with a convoluting plot, misuse of original characters, and the many plotholes. I'm sorry but I can't see Sora becoming the falling hero if Noruma makes him the poster boy who has this special role as chosen weilder of the Keyblade (the only one to be picked by it if I recall correctly) and is the only one to save the ones that are hurting. I'm not sayng your wrong because you are right about this but I can't shake this feeling of Riku becoming the falling hero and I hope I am wrong about it.
 

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I have this feeling that Noruma might end up killing off Riku eventually in the plotline after 3D with later titles (KHIII maybe?). I think Riku's character was developed better then Sora's during KH1 and COM but KHII I thought he was used horribly and yeah I know why they placed him as a no named NPC throughout the game. I still thought he should have been handled better then being a no named support character. With 3D I should expect him to be treated better especially if trust with him and Sora is the theme of the gameplay and a push for him as the main character again. I think too that Noruma will convolute his personality with a pointless angst attitude which could lead to becoming the role of the fallen hero just like Axel. I understand that the ending of BBS does give indication he might come back in KHIII but how can they if he was evaporate into darkness after he kill himself just like the other powerful nobodies that died. I just have this strange feeling this might happened to Riku eventually and 3D might be the start of it if Noruma goes that route with him.

I was under the impression that no one is truly dead in the Kingdom Hearts Universe? So far, there really isn't a character with a living heart that isn't truly gone in the Kingdom Hearts. TAV all met horrible fates, but none of them are truly gone. I really don't think Nomura will go as far as killing off a character for good - except for the obvious answer of MX. I really don't count him, because he's a given.

And if Axel comes back, there's a pretty good chance that he's eventually going to come back as his somebody. I wish I could pull up the proper Nomura interview in which it's said, but he said something to the effect that Roxas has inspired him to reclaim his heart.

But no, I really don't think that Riku is going to be killed off.

(Ethnic Woman) - Sounds like Sora will be doing the falling.
Sora falling into darkness for one reason or another could honestly happen. (As much as I don't want it to happen). But at the same time, I feel that's something that is predictable if someone thinks enough about it, and I feel that Nomura probably realizes that we as fans have thought about this before.

Although I did recently think of something shocking that still involves Sora falling into darkness....I'm not sure if I should post it. I'm not quite certain that it could be a possible direction Nomura and co would go in yet.

But I do think Riku is going to play a large role in getting back Terra, and that will figure into his further character development.
 

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I would like for that to happen because Riku has so much going for him and I do see Riku passing the mastery exam and Sora falling it. If I recall correctly didn't Noruma say that the KH story ends when Sora's story ends well that indicates he won't get take nose dive and becoming the falling hero.


Not exactly. KH is Sora's story, in the broadest definition of the term. That is, it's not restricted so that he'll always win, because even if he lost, it still involves him, and it's still his story.

And at this point, I see it fit to mention that the 'm' goes before the 'r' and his name is spelled 'Nomura'. Sorry, it was randomly bugging me xD;

I mean if that were to happen then the series would end and I doubt it would end after KHIII if that's what you were implying about Sora taking a nose dive. I have no doubt that Riku will be ahead of Sora by KHIII with more skill and being Keyblade master but with the way Noruma has been constructing the story with a convoluting story, misuse of characters, and the many plotholes.

Well, I give him the benefit of the doubt, because asides from basic concepts, it's more or less up to the scenario writers. Sure, he approves of their ideas, but he's not the only one at fault here if you're looking for someone to point the finger at.

I'm sorry but I can't see Sora becoming the falling hero if Noruma makes him the poster boy who has this special role as chosen weilder of the Keyblade (the only one to be picked by it if I recall correctly) and is the only one to save the ones that are hurting. I'm not sayng your wrong because you are right about this but I can't shake this feeling of Riku becoming the falling hero and I hope I am wrong about it.

Riku being the fallen hero has already happened, so I doubt they'll reuse that again for whatever reason.
 

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I was under the impression that no one is truly dead in the Kingdom Hearts Universe? So far, there really isn't a character with a living heart that isn't truly gone in the Kingdom Hearts. TAV all met horrible fates, but none of them are truly gone. I really don't think Nomura will go as far as killing off a character for good - except for the obvious answer of MX. I really don't count him, because he's a given.

And if Axel comes back, there's a pretty good chance that he's eventually going to come back as his somebody. I wish I could pull up the proper Nomura interview in which it's said, but he said something to the effect that Roxas has inspired him to reclaim his heart.

But no, I really don't think that Riku is going to be killed off.

True the ones that didn't die were Terra, Aqua, Ven, Roxas, and Xion but Axel he did get evaporated into darkness when he killed himself just like the other powerful nobodies. Whatever loop Noruma uses to bring Axel back I just hope it doesn't lead to another stupid plothole when its never explained to how he came back (aka Usula's return in KHII). If Axel comes back then I agree Riku won't get killed off but as I have said its just a strange feeling I have judging by how Noruma screwed up the series plotline.
 

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I would like for that to happen because Riku has so much going for him and I do see Riku passing the mastery exam and Sora falling it. If I recall correctly didn't Noruma say that the KH story ends when Sora's story ends well that indicates he won't take nose dive and become the falling hero. I mean if that were to happen then the series would end and I doubt it would end after KHIII if that's what you were implying about Sora taking a nose dive. I have no doubt that Riku will be ahead of Sora by KHIII with more skill and being a Keyblade master but with the way Noruma has been constructing the story with a convoluting plot, misuse of original characters, and the many plotholes. I'm sorry but I can't see Sora becoming the falling hero if Noruma makes him the poster boy who has this special role as chosen weilder of the Keyblade (the only one to be picked by it if I recall correctly) and is the only one to save the ones that are hurting. I'm not sayng your wrong because you are right about this but I can't shake this feeling of Riku becoming the falling hero and I hope I am wrong about it.

You make it seem like Sora hasn't made miracles happen before and he's overcome adversity. Sora turned into a Heartless, yet he was purified by Kairi and continued on.

Sora's story wouldn't end just because he falls to Darkness. I have no idea what gives you that idea, considering how Sora knows the Darkness isn't evil and all he needs is hope and he can make it back home. If anything, it would allow us to go on another journey with Sora and see more development of his slightly static personality.

Also, Darkness and falling into it doesn't mean he'd die or become evil. He'd just have to overcome the grief and anger he has accumulated throughout the series so far. We see it peak out during KHII when he would let his happy-go-lucky mask slip and he'd be depressed over everything happening, and seen how his anger can grow in CoM. It is something that Sora needs considering Riku has gotten over his issues. Sora's issues have hardly been touched because he has been too busy looking for Riku and Kairi.

And Sora isn't special. Nomura has said so many times Sora is just a normal boy, but with wild circumstances surrounding him...and since we know that there have been hundreds-of-thousands of Keyblade wielders in the past, it just proves that there are possibly more Keyblade wielders out there besides Sora, Riku, Mickey, and Aqua.

The series isn't ending at KHIII. We are getting a new saga after the Xehanort Saga.
 

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Not exactly. KH is Sora's story, in the broadest definition of the term. That is, it's not restricted so that he'll always win, because even if he lost, it still involves him, and it's still his story.

And at this point, I see it fit to mention that the 'm' goes before the 'r' and his name is spelled 'Nomura'. Sorry, it was randomly bugging me xD;

Well true that Riku is being used more then before and other then Roxas, Riku is the first character to get any major development that has already surpassed Sora's own. If anything I hope this leads to Sora and Kairi getting actual real development. I mean if Riku is being used then other characters should be expected to follow and I hope this stops Nomura and his team of writers from making Sora the poster boy. Oh thanks I guess I was mispelling his name XD.



Well, I give him the benefit of the doubt, because asides from basic concepts, it's more or less up to the scenario writers. Sure, he approves of their ideas, but he's not the only one at fault here if you're looking for someone to point the finger at.

I'm sorry I don't agree and he is the director and it is up to him to make sure the story goes through rather then letting the story writers go with something that can cause issue with the story aka the plotholes. If he was such a good director he would make sure and tell the writers to fix any issues especially if its up to him to decide what goes, just my opinion nothing more.


Riku being the fallen hero has already happened, so I doubt they'll reuse that again for whatever reason.

Well that's not exactly what I meant by saying he could become the falling hero because that could also mean getting killed off. An eample of this is in Golden Sun and two characters named Saturous and Merdari were doing a heroic thing by saving the world but their methods of doing it were through evil. This of course lead to their demise from Issac and his team because of becoming fallen heroes they got killed off as a result, this was just example. Its is possible for Nomura to approve of this since currently the story is about the poster boy despite Riku being used as well.



You make it seem like Sora hasn't made miracles happen before and he's overcome adversity. Sora turned into a Heartless, yet he was purified by Kairi and continued on.

Sora's story wouldn't end just because he falls to Darkness. I have no idea what gives you that idea, considering how Sora knows the Darkness isn't evil and all he needs is hope and he can make it back home. If anything, it would allow us to go on another journey with Sora and see more development of his slightly static personality.

Also, Darkness and falling into it doesn't mean he'd die or become evil. He'd just have to overcome the grief and anger he has accumulated throughout the series so far. We see it peak out during KHII when he would let his happy-go-lucky mask slip and he'd be depressed over everything happening, and seen how his anger can grow in CoM. It is something that Sora needs considering Riku has gotten over his issues. Sora's issues have hardly been touched because he has been too busy looking for Riku and Kairi.

And Sora isn't special. Nomura has said so many times Sora is just a normal boy, but with wild circumstances surrounding him...and since we know that there have been hundreds-of-thousands of Keyblade wielders in the past, it just proves that there are possibly more Keyblade wielders out there besides Sora, Riku, Mickey, and Aqua.

The series isn't ending at KHIII. We are getting a new saga after the Xehanort Saga.

Um I think you should relax a little because I'm not saying your wrong about this and I was actually agreeing with you in my last post. I don't agree with him being "normal" especially when he is given the special role. I will stop here with Sora's role because I think we are starting to go off topic and the subject is about Riku's development. If you want to continue this with me then respond in my profile. I also would appreciate it if you try not to give my an attitude next time and I didn't come to these boards to look for an argument but a simple debate (this isn't a knock towards you).
 
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Um I think you should relax a little because I'm not saying your wrong about this and I was actually agreeing with you in my last post. I don't agree with him being "normal" especially when he is given the special role. I will stop here with Sora's role because I think we are starting to go off topic and the subject is about Riku's development. If you want to continue this with me then respond in my profile. I also would appreciate it if you try not to give my an attitude next time and I didn't come to these boards to look for an argument but a simple debate (this isn't a knock towards you).

o_o I didn't give you attitude...um. o_o

We didn't get off topic either. o_o

I don't buy the "normal boy" thing either but or now that is all we can believe in since it is what is being thrown in our face.
 

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Um I think you should relax a little because I'm not saying your wrong about this and I was actually agreeing with you in my last post.

I think you're really taking this the wrong way. Lycoris was in no way, getting worked up over the argument. She presented her views and supported it.


I don't agree with him being "normal" especially when he is given the special role. I will stop here with Sora's role because I think we are starting to go off topic and the subject is about Riku's development.
Sora's role plays a part in Riku's development.

If you want to continue this with me then respond in my profile. I also would appreciate it if you try not to give my an attitude next time and I didn't come to these boards to look for an argument but a simple debate (this isn't a knock towards you).
Haha, you said the same thing to Monoochrom and Anna825, and look what happened 8D
 

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I think you're really taking this the wrong way. Lycoris was in no way, getting worked up over the argument. She presented her views and supported it.

Actually that was towards Ethnic woman and not Lycoris but again I wasn't really disagreeing with them (well except for Sora being a "normal boy"). There was one sentence that came off too aggressive hence why I said she was giving me an attitute :/.

Sora's role plays a part in Riku's development.

Well when I see "Riku's upcoming development" as the topic title I assumed the obvious about Riku's developmenmt being discussed only but that's kind of where I got "going off topic" from (no disagreement here).

Haha, you said the same thing to Monoochrom and Anna825, and look what happened 8D

I didn't really say that towards them I think it was at Shamdeo who him and I did go off topic with talking about FFXIII series rather then KH. If you would like to know why they are on my ignored list just message me in my profile and let's just say I don't want to start something with them ranting and crying about what I said here. Let's just say they have issues XD.
 
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Um, I am Lycoris. -_-;

When we are discussing Sora's development in comparison to Riku's it is fine. If we were talking about Sora housing Ven's heart, then we'd be off topic.
 

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i expect riku to start finding his lighter abilities and use a light dark hybrid attack style and the only thing that would really turn sora dark is if kairi was killed by one of the good guys
 

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I kinda suspect he will use a whole new strategy, that or weild both mixed. *Imagines his initial attack fx to be a blend of the two* But I think with ansem out of his heart entirely, he has room to be himself without worrying about going berserk on his friends. Maybe even a little more mature.

Although I also see him being taken into a whole new approach with only the power of his keyblade to rely on since hi darkness was stripped away at the end of kh2.
 
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