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Mickey giving Riku the d Kingdom Key. Oooh :wink: that does seem plausible with those 2.
 

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Although Nomura got the boot from Versus, what's cool about the situation now is, he can take concepts and ideas he had before, and implement them into KH3 and FF7's remake. For example, the old HUD in Versus which would show the character's face as a 3D model is present in KH3 as Sora's portrait that changes. It'll be pretty cool to see what he does next, and maybe we can discover even more parallels.
 

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I always knew Mickey would've given Riku the D at some point. Since their relationship in Chain of Memories, the giving of the D was the only logical conclusion.
And maybe Riku, invigorated by this experience, will be able to use his newfound D to help Sora in some shape or form.
Yes, the two of them could have a gay old time playing with their Ds and passing them to one another.


But yeah, Riku getting Kingdom Key Darkside might be cool, especially if KH III decides to keep expanding the lore about these two keys.
 

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I always knew Mickey would've given Riku the D at some point. Since their relationship in Chain of Memories, the giving of the D was the only logical conclusion.
And maybe Riku, invigorated by this experience, will be able to use his newfound D to help Sora in some shape or form.
Yes, the two of them could have a gay old time playing with their Ds and passing them to one another.


But yeah, Riku getting Kingdom Key Darkside might be cool, especially if KH III decides to keep expanding the lore about these two keys.

That actually is really plosibe... especially since (just theorizing) they're not actually in the realm of darkness and if they are they definitely have not found Aqua yet. Keyblade master Riku will need a keyblade and the Kingdom key D actually makes perfect sense especially if he's going to be in the realm of darkness for party of the game. Two questions though...
1) which member of the organization broke his keyblade (presumably in battle, cause let's be honest... not random heartless is going to break it. (Unless he was defending mickey).
2) WTF RIKU TAKE YOUR KEYCHAIN WITH YOU?!?! LIKE IT'S SITTING RIGHT THERE! GIVE IT TO SORA OR SOMETHING? FK
 

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2) WTF RIKU TAKE YOUR KEYCHAIN WITH YOU?!?! LIKE IT'S SITTING RIGHT THERE! GIVE IT TO SORA OR SOMETHING? FK

Another really good point. The Keychains are really important in the lore of the keys, so... should Riku take that one back? Or does it represent a "bond" with himself/the Darkness he wants to forget?

Damn Nomura, I'm actually getting my curiosity back for this game. xD
 

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Another really good point. The Keychains are really important in the lore of the keys, so... should Riku take that one back? Or does it represent a "bond" with himself/the Darkness he wants to forget?

Damn Nomura, I'm actually getting my curiosity back for this game. xD

I think Riku is the type if character that uses the past to define his current self. His character is the one who has always shown the most depth and change throughout the series. He is really developing fast so its possible that he doesn't want to forget the bond but no longer needs it to define himself. But I digress, I can't think of a single reason why he has to leave the key chain. It really pisses me off. If he did remove the Keychain it would just revert to soul eater coerect?
 

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I always knew Mickey would've given Riku the D at some point. Since their relationship in Chain of Memories, the giving of the D was the only logical conclusion.
And maybe Riku, invigorated by this experience, will be able to use his newfound D to help Sora in some shape or form.
Yes, the two of them could have a gay old time playing with their Ds and passing them to one another.


But yeah, Riku getting Kingdom Key Darkside might be cool, especially if KH III decides to keep expanding the lore about these two keys.

Fuck, I choked on my tea reading this. Their matching clothes all but say they are a couple. And then Sora can join in to on all of the fun with his matching outfit and D, too.



It always felt like KKD was meant to belong to whoever stood alongside the person who wielded Kingdom Key. That's never felt like Mickey, and it would be a true culmination of Riku's arc for him to be the true wielder of that Keyblade.
 

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that would cool if he did get that key however i don't the the relam of darkness or riku will be playable this time around
 

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diddly, I choked on my tea reading this. Their matching clothes all but say they are a couple. And then Sora can join in to on all of the fun with his matching outfit and D, too.

Glad I could help in more life-treaTEAning situations. (I'll see myself out)
Sora's Hammer Rocket will be ready.
Yes, silly name, Riku told him not to call it that but then Sora won the Race and so it stays

It always felt like KKD was meant to belong to whoever stood alongside the person who wielded Kingdom Key. That's never felt like Mickey, and it would be a true culmination of Riku's arc for him to be the true wielder of that Keyblade.

I think the original plan was for Sora and Mickey to be the counterparts, given also Sora's origin as a Mickey replacement, but yeah... that ship sailed long ago, the two of them have the smallest chemistry ever.
There are so many good reasons for Riku to get that Keyblade now that we're talking about it.
 

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I'm hoping it's for Repliku. I always loved that character, plus Namine would be lonely without her own friend to hang around with, considering TAV will be off to one side and RAX off to the other. And the more CoM recall, the better, imo.

From what I remember, Repliku asked where a fake goes when they fade/die. I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the RoD when they're searching for Aqua.

Given that Replica's could, in a sense, be viewed as synthetically created Nobodies, it's quite possible that he did end up in the RoD. (I know that may sound weird, but seeing as how the basic concept of a replica is that they are empty shells created in the form of someone else with someone else's memories it's not completely wrong.) After all, given that we know that a Nobody can grow their own heart if given enough time and experience, whose to say the same thing didn't happen to Repliku? Even if he didn't grow a heart, he was a being of darkness from the moment he was born. If he did end up being sent somewhere after his death, wouldn't the RoD be the most plausible location?

That actually is really plosibe... especially since (just theorizing) they're not actually in the realm of darkness and if they are they definitely have not found Aqua yet. Keyblade master Riku will need a keyblade and the Kingdom key D actually makes perfect sense especially if he's going to be in the realm of darkness for party of the game. Two questions though...
1) which member of the organization broke his keyblade (presumably in battle, cause let's be honest... not random heartless is going to break it. (Unless he was defending mickey).
2) WTF RIKU TAKE YOUR KEYCHAIN WITH YOU?!?! LIKE IT'S SITTING RIGHT THERE! GIVE IT TO SORA OR SOMETHING? FK

1) I think it would make sense for it to be Ansem, Seeker of Darkness to have done it. He's the only member of the Organization to have dealt with Riku long-term, and is infinitely more knowledgeable about Riku when compared to the rest of the Organization. (He did posses him for a year.) Add in the fact that the WtD was a transformed version of Soul Eater (a manifestation of Riku's darkness) and it makes since that Ansem (someone who once wielded the blade and the darkness it came from) would know how to break it.
2) I think the key chains are more of a gameplay mechanic than anything else and have very little to do with the actual story, so him leaving it there would make sense. Of course, I could just be missing the joke, but hey. =P

But yeah, Riku getting the Kingdom Key D would be nice. It would also be a great way to redeem him for the first major failure he had in the series: becoming unworthy of the Kingdom Key during the events of Destiny Islands. In addition, given his ties to the dark, he may be able to draw on more of the KKD's power than anyone else. (It IS a weapon of Light from the RoD after all. It'd be perfect for him.)
 

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2) I think the key chains are more of a gameplay mechanic than anything else and have very little to do with the actual story, so him leaving it there would make sense. Of course, I could just be missing the joke, but hey. =P

Nah, they kinda are important.
Keyblades in a precarious state, such as the one made with the hearts of the Princesses was missing the keychain due to lacking Kairi's heart (same with Terra's Lingering Will one if I recall correctly), Young's No Name in DDD is different than Old Xehanort's one because the keychain is made with an hourglass and not the usual eye, Sora's Oathkeeper is made with Kairi's good luck charm, and there are surely more but that's the gist of it.

While it might not be STORY per se and we shouldn't expect the characters mentioning them or anything, they are undoubtedly part of the lore and have their weight. Riku's keychain on RtD symbolizes his bond with the Darkness inside him (as does the Key itself) and even has the symbol for Darkness on it.
 
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Also to add on to why Riku should get the KKD, it was behind the secret door on the island. The very door Riku always wanted to open.
 

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I think the original plan was for Sora and Mickey to be the counterparts, given also Sora's origin as a Mickey replacement, but yeah... that ship sailed long ago, the two of them have the smallest chemistry ever.
There are so many good reasons for Riku to get that Keyblade now that we're talking about it.

So going back to previous kh1. Disney wanted Donald to be the protagonist, square wanted mickey. So Nomura made lion sora. I think my favorite part of kh2 is the ending where mickey just runs over and leaps into riku's arms. The most recognizable mascot on earth doesnt even bat an eye at the games protagonist. Riku is the secret protagonist, Sora is just there for the ride (like everyone just uses him).
 

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Nah, they kinda are important.
Keyblades in a precarious state, such as the one made with the hearts of the Princesses was missing the keychain due to lacking Kairi's heart (same with Terra's Lingering Will one if I recall correctly), Young's No Name in DDD is different than Old Xehanort's one because the keychain is made with an hourglass and not the usual eye, Sora's Oathkeeper is made with Kairi's good luck charm, and there are surely more but that's the gist of it.

While it might not be STORY per se and we shouldn't expect the characters mentioning them or anything, they are undoubtedly part of the lore and have their weight. Riku's keychain on RtD symbolizes his bond with the Darkness inside him (as does the Key itself) and even has the symbol for Darkness on it.

Oh wow, I actually forgot about half of that. Yeah, they do seem to play a bit of a role at least, but I kinda blew it off because of the fact that no one seems to actually talk about stuff like that in the story itself. (I mean, they made it a point to introduce Drive forms as both a mechanic and a story aspect of his character, but no one seems to have said anything about the key chains.) Given the weight that Keyblades have within the story of KH, you'd think that if the key chains were really important, they'd make it a point to at least mention them. This seeming lack of importance within the story is what lead me to believe hat key chains were just a game mechanic in the long run, as Nomura doesn't seem like the type to leave something like that untouched if it was important to the story and world he was trying to create. (That’s assuming, of course, that he doesn’t plan on having them be the central focus of the next saga after Xehanort is defeated.)

That said, if they really do play a role, then what would happen if you took the key chain off and left it off. Would the Keyblade maintain its shape? If it did do that, how long would it last? Would the Keyblade lose power/degrade after a while? If so, what would that look like? What if instead of staying the same, it regressed to a "basic" or "default" form? What would that form look like? Would it still have power in this state? And, if key chains really are important, why has no one mentioned this? Are they unaware of the importance of the key chains? If so, then why would Sora know how to attach and detach key chains to his Keyblade during the course if KH1 when he himself knows nothing about them? (The only ones who might have known anything about this didn’t actually meet Sora until AFTER KH1. So there’s now way he would have learned how to do this without some trial and error involved. Given the importance of the Keyblades in general, I doubt that this would have been glossed over if it was important to the story.) So many questions come out of this.
 

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Repliku was a super compelling/tragic character and I enjoyed him a lot. I don't super grasp any of the time travel stuff (maybe I've stopped paying attention/become a bad fan?), but if everybody else who wasn't supposed to exist is getting 'saved' (Xion, Namine, Roxas, Aqua, Ventus, Terra) it would be pretty sad to leave poor Repliku out.
 

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I hope it's not Replica. I like him, but he really doesn't need to come back. His arc was good when it ended like it did.
I'd like if it was a memento of some sort. Like, a different Riku or someone else will eventually arrive there and finds it as a moniker.
I'll step into fanfic territory here: what if it's for FUTURE Riku? Maybe Riku's foreseeing that at some point in his life he will probably end up at the Dark Margin again, and the Keyblade will be there to inspire him.

...yes, I know, poetic, but unlikely.

I'd like for broken Road to Dawn to be a symbol in the franchise though.



Well, kinda like Aqua "fixed" the ruined bridge? Idk, I think "in the RoD time flows in a different way" can be used as an ex machina for this.
He already came back in dream drop distance
 
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