This is obviously subject to change soon depending on new information/translations, of course.
Anyway, wanted to make a topic with a bunch of analysis/meta for the revelations in DDD. Don't really have time right now though, but wanted to make this topic because it just popped into my mind.
So YMX is, well, YMX, right? Just Xehanort from the past?
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
Isn't it weird how from what we've seen there's no big reveal scene for YMX? Who he is is mostly implied through dialogue. And while it seems like he's really just young Master Xehanort, there are a few lingering doubts.
For starters, the whole time travel thing.
The mechanics of time travel haven't exactly been revealed yet, but so far we know that you must (from my understanding):
- Not have a body
- Only go to a time (and perhaps place) where you existed in the past (not sure about the future, kind of doubtful)
Now, here's the thing. Ansem seems to be the time traveler here, since he's the one that went back to inform YMX and lacks a body. And yet... why is YMX the one, in the final fight, who gets time related abilities? Can YMX time travel? It seems that he might be able to. But... he has a body... how is that possible?
Or does he have a body?
And now on to my second point:
Vanitas.
Remember? He was shown alongside YMX, basically spelling out that YMX had his heart?
What happened? Vanitas has not been seen at all the rest of the game. Why just show him that once and never mention him again?
Recall MX's plans. To "Xehanortify" people (or if you're a fan of the ol' terminology, creating Horcruxes).
With that in mind is it possible that YMX is Vanitasnort?.
Think about it. Vanitas does not have a body, it was destroyed by Ven. Say he somehow is capable of surviving the fight with Ven. Now he's just a heart. Sort of like Ansem. Who could time travel.
And unlike Xigbar, who's only at a stage where he's "half-Xehanort," Vanitas has advanced completely to being a full Xehanort, looking like a 15 year old version of him. He can take on a form without possessing a vessel because he's in the RoS.
Now there is one problem with this. In the scene where YMX and Sora are on DI, YMX speaks as if he is Xehanort (eg saying that Ansem is him). There is a simple work around for this, though, namely that, I imagine, when the seeds are transformed into Xehanorts, they either share memories in common (connections similar to that between Sora/Roxas/Xion), or copies of those memories are made. As it seems to suggest from Xigbar, they become less like themselves. I imagine they start to forget who they were.
But let's say YMX is Vanitasnort. So what?
Well, for starters, he's still alive bear in mind (he left with the rest of the Xehanorts). So there's still time to find out more about him.
And I think that's what we'll be doing in BbSv2, which I believe is hinted at in the secret ending. "The darkness awakens." Why would it say that for YMX? Since when was he asleep? YMX wasn't. Vanitas was. And I'm guessing he finds a way back into the RoL (possessing someone?) and.. well, goes time traveling!
A while ago I said if BbSv2 really does span the amount of time it does, from BbS to after KH2, that it would need some kind of narrative cohesion, a way of tying everything together, and one of the few ways that would be possible is time travel. So basically Vanitasnort's time jumping will serve as the narrative backdrop of the game. And while it takes place after DDD (and may have some post DDD scenes, like Kairi at the mansion), it is technically set across the entire series and I imagine will fill in bits of info here and there as a way to "reconnect" kingdom hearts.
Or maybe YMX is just YMX. 8D
Anyway, wanted to make a topic with a bunch of analysis/meta for the revelations in DDD. Don't really have time right now though, but wanted to make this topic because it just popped into my mind.
So YMX is, well, YMX, right? Just Xehanort from the past?
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
Isn't it weird how from what we've seen there's no big reveal scene for YMX? Who he is is mostly implied through dialogue. And while it seems like he's really just young Master Xehanort, there are a few lingering doubts.
For starters, the whole time travel thing.
The mechanics of time travel haven't exactly been revealed yet, but so far we know that you must (from my understanding):
- Not have a body
- Only go to a time (and perhaps place) where you existed in the past (not sure about the future, kind of doubtful)
Now, here's the thing. Ansem seems to be the time traveler here, since he's the one that went back to inform YMX and lacks a body. And yet... why is YMX the one, in the final fight, who gets time related abilities? Can YMX time travel? It seems that he might be able to. But... he has a body... how is that possible?
Or does he have a body?
And now on to my second point:
Vanitas.
Remember? He was shown alongside YMX, basically spelling out that YMX had his heart?
What happened? Vanitas has not been seen at all the rest of the game. Why just show him that once and never mention him again?
Recall MX's plans. To "Xehanortify" people (or if you're a fan of the ol' terminology, creating Horcruxes).
With that in mind is it possible that YMX is Vanitasnort?.
Think about it. Vanitas does not have a body, it was destroyed by Ven. Say he somehow is capable of surviving the fight with Ven. Now he's just a heart. Sort of like Ansem. Who could time travel.
And unlike Xigbar, who's only at a stage where he's "half-Xehanort," Vanitas has advanced completely to being a full Xehanort, looking like a 15 year old version of him. He can take on a form without possessing a vessel because he's in the RoS.
Now there is one problem with this. In the scene where YMX and Sora are on DI, YMX speaks as if he is Xehanort (eg saying that Ansem is him). There is a simple work around for this, though, namely that, I imagine, when the seeds are transformed into Xehanorts, they either share memories in common (connections similar to that between Sora/Roxas/Xion), or copies of those memories are made. As it seems to suggest from Xigbar, they become less like themselves. I imagine they start to forget who they were.
But let's say YMX is Vanitasnort. So what?
Well, for starters, he's still alive bear in mind (he left with the rest of the Xehanorts). So there's still time to find out more about him.
And I think that's what we'll be doing in BbSv2, which I believe is hinted at in the secret ending. "The darkness awakens." Why would it say that for YMX? Since when was he asleep? YMX wasn't. Vanitas was. And I'm guessing he finds a way back into the RoL (possessing someone?) and.. well, goes time traveling!
A while ago I said if BbSv2 really does span the amount of time it does, from BbS to after KH2, that it would need some kind of narrative cohesion, a way of tying everything together, and one of the few ways that would be possible is time travel. So basically Vanitasnort's time jumping will serve as the narrative backdrop of the game. And while it takes place after DDD (and may have some post DDD scenes, like Kairi at the mansion), it is technically set across the entire series and I imagine will fill in bits of info here and there as a way to "reconnect" kingdom hearts.
Or maybe YMX is just YMX. 8D
