But still, how do you explain Terra's hair color change?
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Well, MX and the DS really don't have much in common...
God...! That is one hell of a huge assumption...! D=
Well, if the DS tried to absorb KH, then he would have died... Say what you will, but the original is always stronger... Especially if the DS is MX's apprentice...
Meh... I personally, I think it's worse than Terra+MX=Xehanort...
Or maybe an evil Terra clone...
Or evil Terra twin... D=
Or maybe it was simply showing us that the DS' face will most likely be familiar and surprising...
Well, after hearing Xemnas' boastfullness, I would think he would...
As for why Xehanort worked under Ansem's name, I would think the people of Radient Garden may be upset to hear that their ruler was gone... Also, it keep's Xehanort's name clean...
As for Xehanort wanting power, it is obvious that he did... Otherwise, why would his heartless and nobody be so power hungry and KH craving...? It isn't save to asume such things since we never saw what actually happened during that year while Xehanort was in Radient Garden...
Nope... MX is at least part of Xehanort... It is inconceivable for him not to be...
At least in the Terra+MX Theory, MX was apart of Xehanort...
On this one, MX was removed completely...
Aside from the fact that the DS spawned from MX, be it speculation or not, he first looked like MXbefore changing into the DS form, that has to mean something. And their keyblades are similar. They both seem to be skilled magic users as well. They have enough in common. And like I said, the DS could look like MX, being some kind of experiment. Or as we don't know what this new third enemy is, assuming its a part of the body, (like heartless=heart, nobody=shell left behind etc.) then perhaps this part is a part that can be easily separated? Thus, causing the DS to look like MX. And thats not the only way that could happen either.
Well there are three of them, and while the MX is insanely strong, why is it so far fetched to believe that the three main good characters of the game beat the bad guy..? And no i'm not baseing their winning simply on this. They all seem to be somewhat skilled at fighting, save for Ven maybe, who seems to get beat on a lot. I'm thinking that they'll end up beating him in the end somehow. Just my personal opinon.
Why must the DS die simply because he absorbed Kh? We don't know what differences there are between MX's KH and Xemnas' for example. And its like AtW said, hearts are unpredictable. You never know what could happen. And if he is MX's apprentice, then obviously MX would be stronger, but how does that mean he'll die from absorbing Kh?
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. But I don't see how its so much worse. I admit that its highly highly likely that MX will be part of the equasion, but like I said before, if the DS is some kind of experiment or some part of MX somehow separated from his body, then its possible for him not to be in the equasion at all.
Thats possible too. That could also be why the helmet being knocked off scene is so important. Or at least mentionable.
Mmhm. That too. Twas only an idea.
XH DID want power, as he wanted to be lead into everlasting darkness, as he put it. However, Xemnas did not want "power" I don't think. He simply (like the rest of the nobodies) wanted to get their hearts back. You may ask "Well why would Xemnas want to get his heart back if he himself cast it off as Xehanort." Precisely my point I mentioned earlier, with Terra (if he's part of the equasion) remembering a little more about his past, and wanted to get his heart back to see if he could remember more. But it also works in the other point I made about MX
If MX is part of it, then he would want his heart back to 1. Figure out the rest of what he can't remember, and 2. To finish what he started.
No its not. This is Kingdom Hearts, everything is conceivable. =P But like I said, the DS could end up looking like a younger form of MX, and could very well be a part of him. So its possible.
Speculation...? You mean concept, right...? And sure, it does mean something... It could be foreshadowing a fusion between MX and DS... Their keyblades only bearly look similiar... The Heart Unlocker and the DS' keyblades are more similiar than the DS' and MX's... The DS could also look like Terra... Meh... It could be the third enemy, but I doubt it...
Yeah... There were three... And MX and the DS slaughtered them without trying... Your point...?
Well, the MX does appear all powerful, so, I doubt that even if Terra got stronger, that he could defeat MX... If anything, he would make MX breathe hard, at the most... Yeah, they probablly are skilled at fighting, but I doubt that all of their skills combined could take out MX... Not to mention Ven's pretty much out of the fight... And Terra is down and arm...
Well, if MX tried to absorb KH and failed and that caused him to fuse with the DS and left him near death, how do you think an apprentice would be able to survive...?
Damn straight I do... lol...
Anyways, I think KHIII would be better if Sora had to face MX, the true cause for everything...
Well, Xemnas made sure to let everyone know that it was "his" KH...
Also, there were several times Xemnas assured that he wanted power...
"...who would dare interfere with my Kingdom Hearts..."
"Oh, my Kingdom Hearts, ruined... Now I will have to start all over again..."
"...I'm creating a brand new world..." (If Xemnas is creating the world, then he would be the ruler and would have power...
TO KH: "Lend me your power...The power to erase tht foo;s who hinder us..."
"Hearts quivering with hatred... Hearts burning with rage... Hearts scared by envy..." (Hatred, Rage and Envy are powerful emotions...)
"Hearts are the source of all power!" & "I need more rage...I need more Hearts..." (If hearts are power, then Xemnas is basically saying he needs more power...)
Well, who's to say Xemnas didn't plan on getting his heart back...? Remember: "...I cannot allow it to end this way, not yet."...? Maybe Xemnas had planned on "dying" so that he could refuse with his heartless... And the reason he said not yet, is maybe because he wanted to assure Sora and Riku's death before he became whole, to prevent future meetings... Though he failed at that, he still died and will meet with his heartless to become whole...
Well, it is possible, but not very likely...
Kay. Well I wouldn't go as far as to say the DS's and the Heart Unlocker look more alike than MX's and DS's. I mean. All the Heart unlocker was was a red handle and a black blade. Very simple. The intricacy (sp?) of MX's and DS's are similar, along with the fact that they both have the eye on them.
He didn't "slaughter" them per se. He beat the ever loving snot out of them, but who's to say they didn't make some kind of comeback. And while Ven is basically out of the question, as his keyblade was shattered, but the other two could stand some kind of chance i'm guessing. And I thought that Terras arm had unfroze by the time he looked up at MX's Kh.
Kay, firstly, who ever said MX tried to absorb Kh? Thats a theory. So whats to say either of them couldn't have absorbed it? And they don't necessarily have to "absorb" it. They could just simply use its power somehow. For all we know, their keyblades could absorb it, explaining why MX had to turn his into that dark ball before his Kh appeared, perhaps his keyblade held its power within it.
This is true. But the DS could very well BE MX, just younger like I said. So if you think about it, technically, he WOULD be fighting MX. And with time, who's to say that the DS couldn't become as powerful as, maybe more powerful than his master.
You didn't finish that first sentence. "Lend me your power, so that we may be complete." I'm not saying you're wrong. Obviously he wanted power. But I believe his first goal was to get his heart back, as his heartless had been destroyed. And henceforth couldn't fuse back with him as Roxas did with Sora. And he was mad at Sora, Riku, and everyone else because they're hindering his total plan.
I'm pretty sure he did, as that was the entire point of the Organization to begin with. And if MX is a part of this equasion, as it is a possibilty, perhaps the more likely one, then maybe Xemnas retained some of MX's memory, and wants his heart back in hopes he will remember the rest. Same goes for if Terra is a part of it. Terra wants the heart back so that he can remember what he can't.
But why is it not that likely?
Let me quote Namine: "Bad. Or good. I don't know. They're a group of incomplete people, who wish to be whole."
You're trying to tell me that Xemnas, the leader of Organization XIII didn't want this, while the other members did? When in the game does it show that he might not want to find his heart?
Just seems unlikely.
; That makes no sense. If they want to exist fully and completely as Xaldin said, that would mean getting their heart back of course. Which in turn would mean they'd be just the same as they were before. Like Roxas with Sora.its possible that would explain why he stole ansams name i mean he must be used to it.
Nobody said that they want to be their old self.
They want to exist.Meaning, who they are,what they are right now.
*facepalm* I understand what you're saying. They want to be what they are now. But if they got their hearts back, they would go back to being exactly as they were before. Whether they know that or not, thats what would happen.
i dont think terra will end up being bad, but i dont know so it could happen.
Well, actually, we don't know what would happen. Of course, by being destroyed, and the conditions for them to be whole met, they WOULD be just like they were before. BUT Xemnas was using the KH the Org. had been working on to create NEW hearts for them, from scratch. Which is different. Would they exactly as they were before if they had used that method instead?
Also, from the looks of things, the only reason that Xemnas wanted his heart back at all was to gain power; like he said, he believes hearts are the source of all power. It doesn't seem like he's interested in much else; he clearly has a disdain for emotions( which are the primary benefit from gaining a heart), doesn't seem to value them much, and from what I can remember, he berates the members for pretending to have emotions when they don't.
Well,
we do know that ATW considered Xehanorts powers while is an apprentice of ATW "supernatural."
so if xemnas wanted power and he had supernatural powers as his whole self before becoming a nobody than if he could get that power pack he wouold want to become his old self.
Also Xemnas does not have disdain for emotions he several times calls for rage and mentions in the final fight that anger and hate are supreme. these are all emotions that he considers powerful and wants very much.
True. But the others don't seem to see it as a source of power. Its almost like Xemnas was simply using them for his master plan to "create his new world". Because most of the others mention getting their hearts back. Axel talks about it, Saix asks Kh where his heart is. So maybe Xemnas wants it for power, but the others seem to want their hearts back.
Irrelevant, as it's not like we know what would happen anyway, and I doubt Xemnas or anyone else does either.
Also, he might want even more power than he had back when he was an apprentice.
Only those. The rest, he doesn't care.
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Of course. My main point was about Xemnas not caring. The same cannot be said about the rest.
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