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Athomus

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Next to Xehanort, he's one of the biggest mysterious characters around.

And the one that really throws me off is the fact that Micky wields a Keyblade during the secret FMV in KH2FM+.

Heres some of my questions, and I would like to hear some theories on them:

1) Exactly how old is Micky?
2) How long has Micky been doing the whole Keyblade thing?
3) When did Micky get the Star Seeker?
4) Why did Micky decide to get the realm of darkness keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?
5) Did Micky know that Riku was the chosen one, but Sora recieved it instead? How much information did he know for sure.
6) What did he and RIku do in the Realm of Darkness besides beat the shit out of Heartless?
7) Why is Micky able to wield Keyblades?
8) Why did Micky's ancestor(Or younger self) in Timeless River, not have the Keyblade yet, and when exactly was Timeless River? (Obviously before the Castle was built)

I'm sure once we figure out when the secret movie was, we'll be closer to answering these questions and more.
 

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1) Exactly how old is Micky?

Nobody knows, and i dont think it really matters.

2) How long has Micky been doing the whole Keyblade thing?

Once again not important.



3) When did Micky get the Star Seeker?

umm, i guess when he found out by Anti-Ansem in KH1 that the world was to be taken over by darkness.


4) Why did Micky decide to get the realm of darkness

keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?
that's not really important either.


5) Did Micky know that Riku was the chosen one, but Sora recieved it instead? How much information did he know for sure.

Ansem told him everything so he probably knew that whole about Riku.


6) What did he and RIku do in the Realm of Darkness besides beat the shit out of Heartless?

They went looking for Sora. I think they explain that in CoM.


7) Why is Micky able to wield Keyblades?
I don't know. the keyblade chooses the person, so i guess it choose the king.

yes, you just answered your own question.



8) Why did Micky's ancestor(Or younger self) in Timeless River, not have the Keyblade yet, and when exactly was Timeless River? (Obviously before the Castle was built)

because thats when he was younger. he didn't have it yet. and you answered your own question again. Timeless River was before he was king and everything.

I'm sure once we figure out when the secret movie was, we'll be closer to answering these questions and more.[/QUOTE]

Well i think some of these questions won't be answered because they don't really move the game story along. But some of them might. All i know is that the first two aren't really relevant.
 

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1) Exactly how old is Micky?
--I think that khluva is right on this one, it's not really important... Because if you think about it... he is like 100 years old now. ha. But we do know that this takes place before KH1... so I believe that it is also before he is king.

2) How long has Micky been doing the whole Keyblade thing?
--Once again, I think khluva is right, not rellevant.

3) When did Micky get the Star Seeker?
--On this, I disagree... or more, I don't really understand khluva's answer... Think to KH2... Sora gained Star Seeker from Yen Sid when he went to him for guidance at the beginning of KH2... I believe that Yen Sid granted Star Seeker to Mickey when he was Yen Sid's apprentice. Because in KH2, it is stated that Yen Sid was Mickey's teacher.

4) Why did Micky decide to get the realm of darkness keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?
--On this, I definately disagree... I believe that the change of keyblade is very important... I don't know why yet, but if you think about it... Sora never actually CHANGED keyblades, just keychains, which altered the appearance of his keyblade. But the FIRST keyblade he was granted was the Kingdom Key. In the same way, I believe that Mickey was first granted the Opposite Keyblade. When or why? I don't know. But I think that when Mickey became king and was no longer Yen Sid's apprentice, he returned the keychain to him and regained his natural keyblade.

5) Did Micky know that Riku was the chosen one, but Sora recieved it instead? How much information did he know for sure.
--And I have never agreed completely with the idea that Riku was the ultimate "chosen one" and that Sora was just who the blade was thrust upon... No... The story says, as EVERYONE knows, that the keyblade wielder can either bring destruction, or revellation (this in my own words)... Why then, does it have to be that Riku is the only "chosen one"??? It contradicts with the fact that there are so many other people wielding keyblades. Mickey, Sora, Kairi, and the people in FM+SE... so with that said, I don't believe that Riku in THE "chosen one"... and thus I don't believe that Mickey purposely made himself to end up with Riku. I also think that the Kingdom Key was bound for Sora in the first place, not Riku. Riku gained his own blade (Way to Dawn)...

--Also.. on the second point... I believe that in KH, Mickey is portrayed as a normal person with normal thoughts... normal flaws... I don't think he knew ENTIRELY what was going on. He obviously knew what the stars going out meant, because I believe that something very close along those lines was taking place around the time of FM+SE... That's all I have on this question that's rellevant and I have reason for saying, moving on. haha.

6) What did he and RIku do in the Realm of Darkness besides beat the shit out of Heartless?
--I know I'm disagreeing with half of what you say, but bear with me. lol.. I don't think that khluva's answer is sufficient. In COM, when they end up in Castle Oblivion, they are out of the Realm of Darkness. I believe this because, in fact, Sora and his gang, along with the Org. were in the Castle as well... and Sora and his gang never entered the Realm of Darkness, which proves that they were indeed out at that point. Now what Mickey and Riku did whilst in the Realm, I have no clue... How they got out? I have no clue... It seems as though it would be difficult to get out if it's so difficult to get in... right? My thoughts are the we don't know everything about Mickey... in the sense that he has alot more that he is hiding... I have an entire theory behind this but currently not a whole lot to back it up, so I won't waste your time and space. lol.

7) Why is Micky able to wield Keyblades?
--I think, just like the others, A keyblade came to Mickey, just as one did Sora, Riku, and Kairi. I think, maybe, that there is a Keyblade for everyone of a strong heart, but the keyblade only presents itself in times of great peril for it's master. For Sora, it was obviously on Destiny Island... For Riku, sometime in Hollow Bastion... I don't know the actual event.. Kairi, in TWTNW when the heartless are attacking her, although, it befuddles me that instead of just appearing to her, Riku has her blade and just hands it to her, telling her to take it. This is where I get confused about that... anyways, with Mickey, it was obviously some time before FM+SE as well as the knights... I believe that there was alot of peril and disaster that lead up to the FM+SE because this battle seems alot like... a final stand type of thing... a final showdown. Anywho's.....

8) Why did Micky's ancestor(Or younger self) in Timeless River, not have the Keyblade yet, and when exactly was Timeless River? (Obviously before the Castle was built)
--Just as I said before, I don't think that his time of great peril had happened yet, thus his keyblade was still lying in waiting...

I'm sure once we figure out when the secret movie was, we'll be closer to answering these questions and more.
--And while the exact time is unsure, it is definant that it was before KH1... I believe that it is very short before Xehanort appeared before Ansem the Wise, with his memories lost and barely alive... I have a theory on this too... but that's a different story.
 

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well, this has been answered, but the age is basically 1950 sumthing minus 2007 so it owuld look like this

2007
-1950sumthing
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mickey's age!

mickey is able to weild the keyblade because he has a strong heart

mickey wasnt able to weild a keyblade in timeless river was because he had no idea about the keyblade and probably wasnt a need for the keyblade to be back then.

well, they didnt really beat the shit outa heartless, and the two were not together for a long period of time because they got seperated ebcause ansem(xehenorts heartless) was still troubling riku. so tehy split up and riku fought within himself and then was found by DiZ (ansem the wise) and mickey stayed and found out about the org and things...i think, well it wasnt realy told to us about what really happened to mickey.

mickey wanted to use hte dark one because he needed a keyblade frmo the dark to lock kingdom hearts because kingdom hearts needs to be locked by both the keyblade of light and darkness.

other than those being actually relevent, none of your other questions really matter.
 

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4) Why did Micky decide to get the realm of darkness keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?
--On this, I definately disagree... I believe that the change of keyblade is very important... I don't know why yet, but if you think about it... Sora never actually CHANGED keyblades, just keychains, which altered the appearance of his keyblade. But the FIRST keyblade he was granted was the Kingdom Key. In the same way, I believe that Mickey was first granted the Opposite Keyblade. When or why? I don't know. But I think that when Mickey became king and was no longer Yen Sid's apprentice, he returned the keychain to him and regained his natural keyblade.

No, this is not right. Mickey needed the Dark keyblade to close kingdom hearts. Sora had the light keyblade, and both keyblades are needed to seal the door. thats why mickey went to get the dark keyblade. And furthermore, how do we know that mickey was granted a keyblade? i dont recall that ever being stated by Nomura or in-game. But the fact is, he got the keyblade in the dark realm to close KH. and he would not have been granted the Dark Keyblade, because if he did, then KH1 would've been pointless! mickey could've just met up with Sora or Riku and just go close the door. this was all stated in KH1, did u play it?


If i am wrong, please feel free to correct.
 
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Yo guys i think the kh2 secret ending happened when Mickey left that letter in Kingdom hearts. Just before Sora got the keyblade at Destiny Islands.
 

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1) Exactly how old is Micky?
i dont think anyone knows

2) How long has Micky been doing the whole Keyblade thing?
probly since hes been the apprentice of Yen Cid

3) When did Micky get the Star Seeker?
Probly from Yen Cid

4) Why did Micky decide to get the realm of darkness keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?
he didnt decide to get it it came to him when kairi lost her heart.

5) Did Micky know that Riku was the chosen one, but Sora recieved it instead? How much information did he know for sure. When he went to Ansem in Hollow Bastion he told him everything.

6) What did he and RIku do in the Realm of Darkness besides beat the shit out of Heartless?
They were looking for Sora and Riku got the way to the dawn

7) Why is Micky able to wield Keyblades?
I guesse cuz he has a strong heart and hes the king of all kings. ANd the Inverse key chose him after kairi lost her heart.

8) Why did Micky's ancestor(Or younger self) in Timeless River, not have the Keyblade yet, and when exactly was Timeless River? why he didnt have a keyblade not sure, but ya the othe one u answerd ure own question.
 

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1) Exactly how old is Micky?

57

2) How long has Micky been doing the whole Keyblade thing?

2 or 3 years is it?

3) When did Micky get the Star Seeker?

the Star Seeker, I am assuming, is a keychain. Irrelevant/IDK. Mickey got his keyblade in the Realm of Darkness behind the scenes in KH1.

4) Why did Micky decide to get the realm of darkness keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?

The Realm of Darkness keyblade was needed to be used with Sora's Realm of Light keyblade to seal the door to Kingdom Hearts.

5) Did Micky know that Riku was the chosen one, but Sora recieved it instead? How much information did he know for sure.

I don't know who Mickey's informant was in all this, maybe Yen Sid told him?

6) What did he and RIku do in the Realm of Darkness besides beat the shit out of Heartless?

These are question Nomura intends to answer in the next KH.

7) Why is Micky able to wield Keyblades?

He has a strong heart. This is the only requirement revealed so far.

8) Why did Micky's ancestor(Or younger self) in Timeless River, not have the Keyblade yet, and when exactly was Timeless River? (Obviously before the Castle was built)

Because his keyblade was not needed yet.

Micky is spelled Mickey.

I'm sure once we figure out when the secret movie was, we'll be closer to answering these questions and more.
 

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Well, my speculation is that at the time of the secret movies, when mickey is weilding the star seeker, he was either under the training of yen sid or just finished his training.
 

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Nobody knows the majority of this stuff, so for now, all we can do is guess and speculate.

Which is all I'm asking for.

I know that nearly none of the answers can be truly answered.

I asked for speculation and theories.


Alrighty, since most people don't seem to care much about these questions let me try to defend myself as towards why I asked them. Why everyone decided to be so sour to me wanting to stimulate speculation, something Nomura encouraged, I don't really understand. For some reason the "star seeker 2" topic had more positive and kind responses then this .

1) I ask this question, beacuse it may be relevant if we discover how old the battle in the secret FMV was. If Mickey turns out to be some sort of 5000 year old figure of defense towards to the worlds, I'd say it'd probably have relevence in the story.

2) I asked this because I wonder when Mickey first recieves the keyblade, and why. Sure, I know Strong Heart is the only opened disscussed requirement for the keyblade, but was there some significent moment that he earned it? Again, would probably be relevent.

3/4) (In response to Twilight)If he got the Darkness Keyblade and used the Star Seeker as a keychain in that Secret Movie, assuming it is indeed in the past, why did he go get it again in KH1?

5) Perhaps more of a plot hole or something to that effect, I'll admit, then anything. This one may be the hardest to speculate about without seeming farfetched.

6) I don't expect any of you to know the answer, but throw something out there. It's obviously something important that Nomura wishes to express somehow.

7) Strong Heart is only openly disscussed, I know. But I was actually criticized, Tiwlight, for that same standpoint before. Still, I figure someone could try to speculate.

I thank some of you whom have replied well.

Also I'm aware King Micky needed the Darkness Realm Keyblade to shut Kingdom Hearts, but how was he able to use a Keychain without the Keyblade he was getting in KH1?
 

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No, this is not right. Mickey needed the Dark keyblade to close kingdom hearts. Sora had the light keyblade, and both keyblades are needed to seal the door. thats why mickey went to get the dark keyblade. And furthermore, how do we know that mickey was granted a keyblade? i dont recall that ever being stated by Nomura or in-game. But the fact is, he got the keyblade in the dark realm to close KH. and he would not have been granted the Dark Keyblade, because if he did, then KH1 would've been pointless! mickey could've just met up with Sora or Riku and just go close the door. this was all stated in KH1, did u play it?


If i am wrong, please feel free to correct.

OF COURSE I PLAYED IT!!!!

Haha, no offense, but I wouldn't really have any right to say all of this stuff if I hadn't played all of the games and know the storyline and such. I've not only played them once, I've played all of them in every way and studied them closely, watched every cutseen and Secret ending and all of that stuff countless times to try to pick out details.. but enough on that. I've played the games, enough said.

But no no no no no... You don't just go out and GET a keyblade. For every person who meets the requirements of wielding a keyblade (a strong heart as everyone knows) there is ONE keyblade that that person can wield. Therefore, I believe that the Opposite keyblade was meant for Mickey from the beginning, and which is why I believe that this was the blade Mickey was wielding in KH2 FM+SE. They can't just decide, "oh I don't like this keyblade, so I'm gonna go get a different one." or "I need this keyblade to do this, so I'm going to get it." you know? I think that Mickey had the opposite keyblade from the beginning, and Mickey has been known to know alot more than he tells Sora and his friends.

And it doesn't have to be stated that they are granted keyblades, Sora is the only one who had a big scene for which he was granted his. But the keyblades come to their wielders at some point. AND Mickey didn't know WHO the Keyblade wielder was, he just knew that there was someone in the world that was a "Keyblade Master" and that they needed to find him. And on that whole point about Mickey just meeting up with them, I explained one reason why that couldn't happen (above with the whole... he didn't know who he was thing) but also.. That wouldn't have made for a very interesting story, would it?

Athomus said:
Also I'm aware King Micky needed the Darkness Realm Keyblade to shut Kingdom Hearts, but how was he able to use a Keychain without the Keyblade he was getting in KH1?

THANK YOU!!!! This is exactly my point! Mickey HAD to have had a keyblade in FM+SE because Star Seeker is MEARLY A KEYCHAIN... Mickey had to have a keyblade before that, and as I stated before, ONE person, ONE keyblade... and seeing as Mickey has the Opposite Keyblade, I believe that this keyblade is the one that Mickey has had the entire time.
 

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Next to Xehanort, he's one of the biggest mysterious characters around.

And the one that really throws me off is the fact that Micky wields a Keyblade during the secret FMV in KH2FM+.

Heres some of my questions, and I would like to hear some theories on them:

1) Exactly how old is Micky?
2) How long has Micky been doing the whole Keyblade thing?
3) When did Micky get the Star Seeker?
4) Why did Micky decide to get the realm of darkness keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?
5) Did Micky know that Riku was the chosen one, but Sora recieved it instead? How much information did he know for sure.
6) What did he and RIku do in the Realm of Darkness besides beat the shit out of Heartless?
7) Why is Micky able to wield Keyblades?
8) Why did Micky's ancestor(Or younger self) in Timeless River, not have the Keyblade yet, and when exactly was Timeless River? (Obviously before the Castle was built)

I'm sure once we figure out when the secret movie was, we'll be closer to answering these questions and more.
1: maybe when he first hit tv ?
2: I am not sure but I heard that he got it right before he met riku for the first time
3: ?????? beats me
4: maybe it was the dark realm keyblade with the star seeker key chain and he gave it to master yin sid
5. ???? no idea
6: maybe try to find out where asem the wise is or what the org. is
7: maybe becuse he found or becuse it was met for him to find it and becuse he is disneys biggest logo
8. I think it was younger self and I think it is the same world as disney castle but with the castle!
my that is my true or false thoughts!:closedeyes:
 

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1) Exactly how old is Micky?

57, but I doubt he really has an age in the game...

2) How long has Micky been doing the whole Keyblade thing?

Since he finished his training under Yen Sid.

3) When did Micky get the Star Seeker?

Same as above.

4) Why did Micky decide to get the realm of darkness keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?

It was needed in order to seal Kingdom Hearts.

5) Did Micky know that Riku was the chosen one, but Sora recieved it instead? How much information did he know for sure.

We can guess that Mickey knew Terra and the others. Terra could have simply told Mickey that he was going to pass his on to Riku.

6) What did he and RIku do in the Realm of Darkness besides beat the shit out of Heartless?

This will be explained in the new stories Nomura want to go over. Riku's absence and Mickey's absence.

7) Why is Micky able to wield Keyblades?

The way any other person can weild them. He has a strong heart. (Somewhat obvious)

8) Why did Micky's ancestor(Or younger self) in Timeless River, not have the Keyblade yet, and when exactly was Timeless River? (Obviously before the Castle was built)

The world took place during the time "Steamboat Willie" came out. Which is the same time Mickey first came out. So, about fifty years in the past?
Mickey didn't weild a Keyblade because he had not yet trained under Yen Sid yet.

Also I'm aware King Micky needed the Darkness Realm Keyblade to shut Kingdom Hearts, but how was he able to use a Keychain without the Keyblade he was getting in KH1?

We only know a few true Keyblades. The rest are transformed through Keychians. But, Mickey could easily have gotten one we do not know of yet.

Yo guys i think the kh2 secret ending happened when Mickey left that letter in Kingdom hearts. Just before Sora got the keyblade at Destiny Islands.
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Nomura already said that the next game will have something to do with Xehanort. Also, from the list of choices we have for possible games, the secret ending would have to fall into Xehanort's past.

1) I ask this question, beacuse it may be relevant if we discover how old the battle in the secret FMV was. If Mickey turns out to be some sort of 5000 year old figure of defense towards to the worlds, I'd say it'd probably have relevence in the story.

I'd say about ten. Xehanort appeared at the end of the Keyblade War. He was with AtW for about a year. Maleficent took control of Hollow Bastion nine years before KH1. 9+1=10. So, the Keyblade Wars ended ten years back and the secret ending is obviously during/near the end of it.
 

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1) Exactly how old is Mickey?

Don't know or care, it'll most likely have no relevance (his bit in the secret movie takes place well AFTER the Keyblade Wars, they're ancient, a forgotten legend, so I'm saying that it took place far more than - ten years back. Seein as we have no idea HOW Xehanort ended up on RG... it'd make sense.)

2) How long has Mickey been doing the whole Keyblade thing?

A few years here or there before KH1

3) When did Mickey get the Star Seeker?

From Yen Sid, his then mentor of course.

4) Why did Mickey decide to get the realm of darkness keyblade instead of just using the Star Seeker?

Because the Dark Keyblade was needed, along with Sora's one of Light in order to close the door to KH? - REPLAY THE ORIGINAL GAME!

5) Did Mickey know that Riku was the chosen one, but Sora recieved it instead? How much information did he know for sure.

Most likely, but regardless, Sora went through the 'Awakening' trials anyway, so I'd think he would've got a Keyblade no matter what happened with Riku, he knew.

6) What did he and Riku do in the Realm of Darkness besides beat the shit out of Heartless?

Search for a way out and to Sora and then... - CoM

7) Why is Mickey able to wield Keyblades?

Strong heart, duh.

8) Why did Mickey's ancestor(Or younger self) in Timeless River, not have the Keyblade yet, and when exactly was Timeless River? (Obviously before the Castle was built)

It simply wasn't time yet, just like Riku or Sora at 5yrs old weren't old or ready for the responsibility... >->
 
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