[SPOILER] KH2.8 discussion

[Muke]

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"CASE OF LUXU"[/COLOR][COLOR=#424242]
Oh boy.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

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Hm... well, even with that info, the Norts obviously haven't been able to break in. Did Aqua mention that she was the ONLY person who could find/access it? tbh the worst I could see coming from this is the Norts either forcing her to open the chamber (assuming they know only she can do it) or just bum-rushing anyone walking out of Castle Oblivion with Ven's body... And even then, Aqua would still have to find Ven, so she'd probably be expecting an attack.

Oh wait. Do we know if the chamber can be opened from the inside? 'Cause if Ven somehow wakes up on his own, and wanders cluelessly outside... no Aqua to protect him there. >__>

Ah, escaping plotholes with vague answers as always. Nomura, you sly fox...

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I'm not aware of any specific dialogue snippets or exact amount of information Aqua accidentally reveals to Xehanort yet, but considering that Xemnas spent apparently huge amounts of time to try and find the chamber (Axel was apparently sent out more than once to search the castle) I'm inclined to believe that the information Xehanort got was a general one that Aqua has hidden Ven in a transformed LoD.
If the Norts had specific intel such as i.e. only Aqua can find it or only Aqua can open it Xemnas wouldn't have acted the way he did but most likely tried to get a hold/capture Aqua herself first by sending Org members looking for her and not the chamber.

As much as I hate to say it, the "bum-rush" ambush is still possible in KH III, especially if Aqua is "stupid" enough to want to check out Ven's body before definitely knowing where Ven's heart is and that it is ready to rejoin his body.
If Ven's heart is truly somewhat "busy" with all the possible connections to the chi-era, it might not even be ready/able to return to its body even if already healed until that issue is solved.

Y'know, this is a scenario I haven't even thought about yet, mainly because I am not sure that Ventus even can wake up on his own. I'm inclined to believe that at least some involvement of Sora is required.

If he can though and is able to leave the chamber, it would really come down to if and who he first meets.
Since only Aqua can truly navigate the castle properly, it is questionable if Ventus would even be capable of finding the exit of the castle by himself, so even if he leaves the chamber he would be "lost in Oblivion" and probably aimlessly wander Castle Oblivion's halls.
If he can wake on his own but the chamber can't be opened from the inside though I can only say I'll feel even more sorry for him than I already do.

It's one of these things again, yep.

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"CASE OF LUXU"[COLOR=#424242][/COLOR]
Oh boy.

Excuse me, but what? 0_o

 

[Muke]

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Excuse me, but what? 0_o

At the beginning, you could see the luggage/box, and "[COLOR=#333333]CASE OF LUXU[/COLOR]" is written on it.

 

[Zettaflare]

So did the ending explain what were in the suitcases Riku and Mickey were carrying? Was it anything important or just normal luggage material?

 

[Sephiroth0812]

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At the beginning, you could see the luggage/box, and "[COLOR=#333333]CASE OF LUXU[/COLOR]" is written on it.

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Well, it isn't unusual that people put their names on their luggage, is it? Oh, and by the way, coloured font doesn't work in the black spoiler tags.

 

[Muke]

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Well, it isn't unusual that people put their names on their luggage, is it? Oh, and by the way, coloured font doesn't work in the black spoiler tags.

Oh, I'm not coloring it, I don't know why the [Font]-brackets are there all the time.^^'
And yeah, guess you're right on that. xD

 

[BlackOsprey]

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I'm not aware of any specific dialogue snippets or exact amount of information Aqua accidentally reveals to Xehanort yet, but considering that Xemnas spent apparently huge amounts of time to try and find the chamber (Axel was apparently sent out more than once to search the castle) I'm inclined to believe that the information Xehanort got was a general one that Aqua has hidden Ven in a transformed LoD.
If the Norts had specific intel such as i.e. only Aqua can find it or only Aqua can open it Xemnas wouldn't have acted the way he did but most likely tried to get a hold/capture Aqua herself first by sending Org members looking for her and not the chamber.

As much as I hate to say it, the "bum-rush" ambush is still possible in KH III, especially if Aqua is "stupid" enough to want to check out Ven's body before definitely knowing where Ven's heart is and that it is ready to rejoin his body.
If Ven's heart is truly somewhat "busy" with all the possible connections to the chi-era, it might not even be ready/able to return to its body even if already healed until that issue is solved.

Y'know, this is a scenario I haven't even thought about yet, mainly because I am not sure that Ventus even can wake up on his own. I'm inclined to believe that at least some involvement of Sora is required.

If he can though and is able to leave the chamber, it would really come down to if and who he first meets.
Since only Aqua can truly navigate the castle properly, it is questionable if Ventus would even be capable of finding the exit of the castle by himself, so even if he leaves the chamber he would be "lost in Oblivion" and probably aimlessly wander Castle Oblivion's halls.
If he can wake on his own but the chamber can't be opened from the inside though I can only say I'll feel even more sorry for him than I already do.

It's one of these things again, yep.

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I'd like to think that Aqua isn't dumb enough to run in and out of CO without care, but BBS happened, so... agh.

Yeah, I doubt that Ven would be able to wake up on his own either. Everything points to him needing help with that... including typical fairy tale tropes. Which Nomura is aware of, since he drew a blatant visual parallel with having Ven appear in Snow White's coffin thing in the RoD. And we all know how Nomura loves surprises, even if they come out of nowhere and seem kind of nonsensical.

If Ven can get out of the Chamber by himself, I don't think he'd have an issue with walking out of the castle itself. It's the chamber itself that's hidden. Chances are it would just disappear behind him or something, and he'd be able to navigate the various floors like any other visitor.

Oh oh but just think. If he gets out, what if the first person he sees is Xemnas? I don't think Ven even knows what happened to Terra, so... ha, there are so many directions something like THAT could go. >

Also, to anyone who has seen Back Cover: What's in the f-cking box?!!

 

[faemarch]

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At the beginning, you could see the luggage/box, and "[COLOR=#333333]CASE OF LUXU[/COLOR]" is written on it.

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"Case of Ava" is also seen on the MoM's bookshelf in her scene with him.

 

[Muke]

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Whoa, look at Invi go. And WHOA MoM gave the page to Gula. So that's how he knows what's written there! Also, I can't say this is better than the Days movie - while it has so many better shots, there are still many fades and cuts. Let's see.

"Case of Ava" is also seen on the MoM's bookshelf in her scene with him.

Then I wonder what's in those cases…
WHAT THE
[/COLOR][COLOR=#111111][FONT=Roboto]Ava is literally protecting Gula with her life
I LOVE HER[/FONT]

 

[Hirokey123]

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I do love how the I guess chapter titles of the movie are subtly incorporated into the background like that "Case of Ava" one and I saw another one with like something something Invi on the gear.

 

[Muke]

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gosh there's so many ava x gula in this xD

I do love how the I guess chapter titles of the movie are subtly incorporated into the background like that "Case of Ava" one and I saw another one with like something something Invi on the gear.

It's always when someone talks to the MoM. This time with Luxu, "Case of Luxu" was written on paper.

 

[Spem]

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What the diddly was that ending?

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They didn't show or say what's in the box. Looks like Master of Masters said that is a "surprise!". Luxu carried it in the desert, and then...
Recconect Kingdom Hearts!

I thought that XBC would be 80 minutes lenght... In this guy stream, it only took about 50 minutes.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

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I'd like to think that Aqua isn't dumb enough to run in and out of CO without care, but BBS happened, so... agh.

Yeah, I doubt that Ven would be able to wake up on his own either. Everything points to him needing help with that... including typical fairy tale tropes. Which Nomura is aware of, since he drew a blatant visual parallel with having Ven appear in Snow White's coffin thing in the RoD. And we all know how Nomura loves surprises, even if they come out of nowhere and seem kind of nonsensical.

If Ven can get out of the Chamber by himself, I don't think he'd have an issue with walking out of the castle itself. It's the chamber itself that's hidden. Chances are it would just disappear behind him or something, and he'd be able to navigate the various floors like any other visitor.

Oh oh but just think. If he gets out, what if the first person he sees is Xemnas? I don't think Ven even knows what happened to Terra, so... ha, there are so many directions something like THAT could go. >

Also, to anyone who has seen Back Cover: What's in the f-cking box?!!

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She may not be dumb enough by herself, but then plot-induced-stupidity kicks in/gets spoon fed to her cause reasons, lol.

Well, it is not completely impossible, but you're right on that one. The Ven-in-Snow-White's-coffin-parallel is extremely blatant and also incredibly sad/jarring at the same time, although it could also become a somewhat heartwarming/hilarious parallel if just like the Prince and Snow White Sora has to kiss Ven in order to place his heart back where it belongs and wake him up. ;P

Sure thing with Nomura's surprises, lol, especially since he almost certainly has new entanglements planned with all that teasing of Ven's possible connections to the X-chi-era.

That's also possible. In that case though he would also capable of leaving the world altogether as he could summon his Keyglider.

Certainly an interesting prospect, although I'd think that silver hair+golden eyes+black coat should tick Ven off that this isn't really "Terra".
I'd also up for Ventus running into Young Xehanort/Trollanort, having dialogue between Ben Diskin and Jesse McCartney would certainly also be a treat...and the possibilities with this also fan out pretty far considering the issue with Vanitas appearing beside Trollanort in DDD...

Maybe Ephemer? Rofl

 

[Hirokey123]

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Ah okay....

Welp there we go this movie ends just like that I'm guessing the actual resolution to this storyline is somewhere in KH3 or the next saga. If it's in season 2 of chi I swear to god Nomura I will gut you, you said BC was going to have all the important information needed to understand KH3. Really hoping we get some translations soon, I really wanna see what they are talking about.

 

[DavidO]

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Just finished Back Cover, hated it. Felt like I was watching a soap opera. Didn't see anything visually interesting.

 

[Grono]

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What was that entire ending about? Does anyone else feel like it ended really abruptly? I felt like it needed at least another twenty minutes added to it. Master of masters talks to Luxu about what's NOT in the box and then... that's it? Maybe the English text will be substantial enough and the incomplete nature of the scenes is just a product of not understanding what's going on, but I felt like it ended really abruptly.

 

[Muke]

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I am so disappointed this answered literally nothing, next to 80% of the movie's content were in the trailers what the hell. Waiting for the credits now to see if something's after them. This didn't even feel like a movie to me. There were still as many cuts and everything just felt like "cutscene here, now another one, cut, fade, cutscene!" Though, to be fair, it was japanese so maybe we'll all get some answers we actually understand in the ENG version lol
Still, I loved the visuals and the actors seemed amazing. I'm thankful we got this anyways.

 

[Saken]

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The MoM said some big stuff to Luxu, so don't be getting all disappointed yet. Such as how the eye on Luxu's keyblade is his own and that's how he will see the future. The mission he gave to Luxu was to head forward and gather disciples and pass his keyblade through the ages, that way the MoM will be able to see the future. He said his mission was to simply watch everything in the meantime, including the incoming keyblade war to confirm that it happens as he predicts. He also called the eye on the keyblade "no-name".

 

[Grono]

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I guess you're right, Muke. I'm glad we have a character like the Master of Masters in the series (whose Japanese voice acting so far is top notch), the movie seems like it gives the foretellers actual character (unlike the games, where Invi didn't even speak more than once if I'm correct), and it does make me concerned for these people. I really hope Gula somehow made it through after the keyblade war, I sympathize with Aced, it's really great that it did that. It just sucks that this entire thing still had to be so short and so insubstantial near the end. I wish this had more substance to it is all. It just seems like a lot of ideas were dropped right before it looked like they were going to get answered, and Luxu seemed like he had no development whatsoever. Did he even encounter the other foretellers in the movie?

 

[BlackOsprey]

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He also called the eye on the keyblade "no-name".

Oh.
Ohhhhh boy.
This could either go nowhere and be forgotten, or it could change everything.