[SPOILER] KH2.8 discussion

[Oracle Spockanort]

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I am pretty certain it does not end there. The guy didn't unlock the special or credits options in the menu, meaning there is still more to see. He needed to go back to the first option rather than using the chapter select option.

 

[Muke]

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I guess you're right, Muke. I'm glad we have a character like the Master of Masters in the series (whose Japanese voice acting so far is top notch), the movie seems like it gives the foretellers actual character (unlike the games, where Invi didn't even speak more than once if I'm correct), and it does make me concerned for these people. I really hope Gula somehow made it through after the keyblade war, I sympathize with Aced, it's really great that it did that. It just sucks that this entire thing still had to be so short and so insubstantial near the end. I wish this had more substance to it is all. It just seems like a lot of ideas were dropped right before it looked like they were going to get answered, and Luxu seemed like he had no development whatsoever. Did he even encounter the other foretellers in the movie?

Agreed! I also feel like they had some great interactions and nice character moments.

 

[Hirokey123]

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The MoM said some big stuff to Luxu, so don't be getting all disappointed yet. Such as how the eye on Luxu's keyblade is his own and that's how he will see the future. The mission he gave to Luxu was to head forward and gather disciples and pass his keyblade through the ages, that way the MoM will be able to see the future. He said his mission was to simply watch everything in the meantime, including the incoming keyblade war to confirm that it happens as he predicts. He also called the eye on the keyblade "no-name".

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So....that gives a pretty valid reason why Xemnas might of chosen to not use the keyblade. He didn't want record more stuff for the MoM in it for some reason, or at least that's the theory I'm going with now.

 

[BlackOsprey]

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So....that gives a pretty valid reason why Xemnas might of chosen to not use the keyblade. He didn't want record more stuff for the MoM in it for some reason, or at least that's the theory I'm going with now.

Nah, I'm pretty sure that DDD confirmed that Xehanort and his spin-offs straight-up lost the ability when he became a Heartless.

 

[Hirokey123]

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Nah, I'm pretty sure that DDD confirmed that Xehanort and his spin-offs straight-up lost the ability when he became a Heartless.

No Ansem did, as reaffirmed by Riku, but Xemnas has always been a wild card. Nomura's only explanation on the matter is Xemnas could probably use the keyblade but had intentionally chosen not to.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

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Such as how the eye on Luxu's keyblade is his own and that's how he will see the future. The mission he gave to Luxu was to head forward and gather disciples and pass his keyblade through the ages, that way the MoM will be able to see the future.

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The implications behind this are certainly grave and would fit another theme as well as why Xehanort knows so incredibly much.

The Recusant's Sigil allows to track certain persons and the blue "no-name"-eye apparently allows to see and/or record anything that comes into its field of view.

If each instance of this eye can do that this is worse than George Orwells 1984.

Besides the Goatblade itself, all the Foreteller-blades have at least one eye, the Soul Eater, Way to the Dawn and Void Gear also have them, giving multiple instances to gather information and spy on things happening.

 

[BlackOsprey]

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No Ansem did, as reaffirmed by Riku, but Xemnas has always been a wild card. Nomura's only explanation on the matter is Xemnas could probably use the keyblade but had intentionally chosen not to.

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So... basically, the Goatblade is a sort of "pen" for the Book of Prophecies, and Geezernort wanted to not give the MoM more info? I mean... I guess that could work, but why would Geezernort know about this property of the Goatblade, and how would Xemnas, who remembers pretty much nothing (not even what it was like to feel emotion) remember THAT?

 

[Saken]

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No Ansem did, as reaffirmed by Riku, but Xemnas has always been a wild card. Nomura's only explanation on the matter is Xemnas could probably use the keyblade but had intentionally chosen not to.

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Let's keep in mind that Luxu's keyblade is not the only keyblade with the eye on it 8D

 

[Hirokey123]

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The implications behind this are certainly grave and would fit another theme as well as why Xehanort knows so incredibly much.

The Recusant's Sigil allows to track certain persons and the blue "no-name"-eye apparently allows to see and/or record anything that comes into its field of view.

If each instance of this eye can do that this is worse than George Orwells 1984.

Besides the Goatblade itself, all the Foreteller-blades have at least one eye, the Soul Eater, Way to the Dawn and Void Gear also have them, giving multiple instances to gather information and spy on things happening.

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Oh god so Riku's eyes that let Xehanort know about DDD were not his literal eyes....they were the blue eyes on his weapons.

 

[BlackOsprey]

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Let's keep in mind that Luxu's keyblade is not the only keyblade with the eye on it 8D

That's very true! But that begs the question of where the eyes come from, exactly. And why Soul Eater would have an eye, despite it being given to Riku by Maleficent... Unless I'm remembering something incorrectly?

 

[Hirokey123]

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Riku begin given Soul Eater by maleficent was never actually canon it's a VERY OLD piece of fanon that people just assumed as truth because he doesn't show up with it until after meeting Maleficent.

....oh for the love of....THIS is why they made a big deal of Riku summoning soul eater in DDD isn't it! Riku freaking summoned it right in the middle of the explanation for their test.

 

[Vasquez]

Uh dunno if this is a spoiler but the pro version of 0.2 runs at at an unlocked framerate that reaches 60fps on the pro.

 

[BlackOsprey]

Riku begin given Soul Eater by maleficent was never actually canon it's a VERY OLD piece of fanon that people just assumed as truth because he doesn't show up with it until after meeting Maleficent.

....oh for the love of....THIS is why they made a big deal of Riku summoning soul eater in DDD isn't it! Riku freaking summoned it right in the middle of the explanation for their test.

Wait, didn't he summon Way To Dawn at Yen Sid's? I know he started the test with Soul Eater but...

OH. OHHHH. Remember that one scene from Re:Coded? The crew found "new data" and it showed a scene of Riku meeting Mr. Robe Guy while Destiny Islands was being destroyed. That might've been when he obtained Soul Eater, before Ansem sent him off to Hollow Bastion!

 

[FudgemintGuardian]

Does anyone have a link to a full play of Fragmentary Passage?
Because the video G-SANtos links to in the op ends about half-way (because it gets blocked at that point.)

 

[Sephiroth0812]

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Oh god so Riku's eyes that let Xehanort know about DDD were not his literal eyes....they were the blue eyes on his weapons.

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Most likely if really all instances of the no name work like this.
Furthermore, if all these eyes see can be viewed and interpreted by the Goatblade's current wielder, it would explain soo much about Xehanorts "incredible" planning skills.

That's very true! But that begs the question of where the eyes come from, exactly. And why Soul Eater would have an eye, despite it being given to Riku by Maleficent... Unless I'm remembering something incorrectly?

Indeed, as it is quite inconsistent actually. We don't know how Void Gear came to be, but Vanitas was created indirectly by the Goatblade since MX used it to rip out a part of Ventus' heart, so Vanitas has a connection with the Goatblade possibly explaining Void Gears instances of the eye.

As far as I remember Soul Eater wasn't "given" to Riku by Maleficent but she "activated" his inner dark powers somehow and this allowed him to manifest the sword. Thus, the reason as to why Soul Eater has the eye could possibly lie within Riku's own Darkness.
With Way to the Dawn we also don't know how Riku gained it, but we do know Soul Eater was used as a base/intermediary for it so WttD most likely "inherited it" from the sword.

There's another thing though:
Ventus most likely got his inheritance ceremony with the Goatblade as he was Xehanort's apprentice first (not to mention he could already summon his Keyblade as a 10/11year old child), yet Wayward Wind doesn't have the eye anywhere in its design.
Strange?
One possible explanation is that it is stated that all attempts of Xehanort to have Ventus embrace his darkness or fall into it failed, so he extracted it to create Vanitas, and that beings weapon, Void Gear, then had the eye, so maybe it has something to do with Darkness as an element?

 

[Spem]

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I am pretty certain it does not end there. The guy didn't unlock the special or credits options in the menu, meaning there is still more to see. He needed to go back to the first option rather than using the chapter select option.

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That would explain why XBC in his stream was only 50 minutes lenght... And not the announced 80 minutes.

 

[Zettaflare]

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if the MoM is observing everything through the eyeball of Xehanort's keyblade, could he be the true main villain of KH3

 

[Grono]

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if the MoM is observing everything through the eyeball of Xehanort's keyblade, could he be the true main villain of KH3

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Hmmm, could be. I think it could also just be an explanation of:

1. How Xehanort got the keyblade on the wall

and...

2. Where Xehanort's ambition came from to begin with.

Maybe Luxu pushed Xehanort and encouraged him to be curious about the keyblade war, while Eraqus was actually the fish out of water in wanting no part in his master's, and Xehanort's, ambitions?

 

[gosoxtim]

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this person is on the destiny island part https://www.twitch.tv/frokenok

 

[Hirokey123]

Any word on when translations will be up?