Terra + Xehanort theory

[Samhain]

Already given evidence to the contrary. Nomura said that Terra has never before appeared in any other Kingdom Hearts game. (NOTE: This was before KH2FM was released.) Which means the first game that Terra will officially be in is Birth by Sleep.

Yeah, so? Terra & Xehanort can be considered the same person but just different viewing..so no. Terra is in KH1, KH2, COM, all of them with MX in the mix.

These similarities can be explained away by Nomura reusing character designs. Which he has done in the past. Heck Sora is basically a younger looking version of Sion Barzad.

So uh Ven's character is lazy designing too eh or reusing character designs hmm?? lets make ven look like roxas so we don't need to come up with character creations! yeah let's make terra look like xehanort just add a few designs and different hair color! yeah...doesnt work that well. they look similar cause they have a connection.

Terra has blue eyes, not brown. Xehanort has brown eyes.

master x can easily have brown eyes himself and fusing in with Terra or terra can use the power of darkness and unlease a huge attack which gave him some physical changes thus due to his only memories from the State of Sleep, his hatred and anger gave in some MX similarites and whcih is why XH looks similar to MX' clothing due to Terra's memories or MX can be controlling him within fusion.

 

[tazmanianchocobo]

Yeah, so? Terra & Xehanort can be considered the same person but just different viewing..so no. Terra is in KH1, KH2, COM, all of them with MX in the mix.

Jeeze that doesn't sound like denial. It's just a river in Egypt there buddy. Way to contradict what Nomura said.

So uh Ven's character is lazy designing too eh or reusing character designs hmm?? lets make ven look like roxas so we don't need to come up with character creations! yeah let's make terra look like xehanort just add a few designs and different hair color! yeah...doesnt work that well. they look similar cause they have a connection.

Ummm let's look at the two cases separately. Case one, Ven looks exactly like Roxas. The only difference is a change in clothes. Case two, Terra has a similar hair style with Xehanort. However his hair color is different, his eye color is different, his skin tone is different, and his hair isn't even the same length. He shares a similar body build with Xehanort, but also several other adult male characters. Hmmmmm, not exactly the cases once compared now are they? It's one thing to make a character look exactly another one, it's totally different when it is only similarities.

master x can easily have brown eyes himself and fusing in with Terra or terra can use the power of darkness and unlease a huge attack which gave him some physical changes thus due to his only memories from the State of Sleep, his hatred and anger gave in some MX similarites and whcih is why XH looks similar to MX' clothing due to Terra's memories or MX can be controlling him within fusion.

Or it could be that they are totally different characters. Haven't you ever heard of the KISS principle, Keep It Simple Stupid.

 

[keybladelegacy]

master x can easily have brown eyes himself and fusing in with Terra

I would like for you to elaborate on this.

or terra can use the power of darkness and unlease a huge attack which gave him some physical changes

An attack gave him physical changes. No

thus due to his only memories from the State of Sleep, his hatred and anger gave in some MX similarites

How can emotions do this.

and whcih is why XH looks similar to MX' clothing due to Terra's memories

But xehanort had no memories of his previous self.

or MX can be controlling him within fusion.

But they seperated into xemnas and ansem SoD so your saying MX is still controlling Terra.

 

[Chakolat Strawberry]

master x can easily have brown eyes himself

MX has yellow eyes.

 

[Samhain]

Jeeze that doesn't sound like denial. It's just a river in Egypt there buddy. Way to contradict what Nomura said.

Retard that's like saying OH XEMNAS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARACTER THAN XEHANORT JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT APPEARENCES! O-M-G JUST BECAUSE NOMURA SAID TERRA DOESN'T APPEAR IN A GAME AFTER BBS DOESN'T MEAN SQUAT AS HE CAN MEAN HIM, TERRA [HIS BODY, HIS LOOKS] AND EVERYTHING FROM HIS IS GONE BUT IT CAN STILL BE CONSIDERED TERRA, god. Okay done yelling, your just an idiot who cannot understand the concept of the rules.

Ummm let's look at the two cases separately. Case one, Ven looks exactly like Roxas. The only difference is a change in clothes. Case two, Terra has a similar hair style with Xehanort. However his hair color is different, his eye color is different, his skin tone is different, and his hair isn't even the same length. He shares a similar body build with Xehanort, but also several other adult male characters. Hmmmmm, not exactly the cases once compared now are they? It's one thing to make a character look exactly another one, it's totally different when it is only similarities.

Yes his hair color is different, his eye color is different and so his skin tone but that can be explained with darkness. Riku changed his appearence by using the power of darkness [the most 100% he had at full power] and it changed his appearence of Xehanort's heartless thus lingering him looking like Xehanorts heartless because his shadow still lurks inside him. This can easily be said with Terra by MX' shadow lingering inside him causing his hair to change, his brown eyes[MASTER XEHANORT'S POSSIBLY ORIGINAL COLOR BEFORE GOING INTO THE DARK DUMBASSES], and getting him obsessed with darkness and also no male character besides Xehanort has the body build idiot besides Terra. Xemnas, XH, Xehanort all have the same body. Name me cannon characters who have the same body build as Xehanort besides Terra..oh that's right nothing.

Or it could be that they are totally different characters. Haven't you ever heard of the KISS principle, Keep It Simple Stupid.

YEAH....TERRA AND XEHANORT DIFFERENT CHARACTERS? LOL YOU CRACK ME UP. Terra is indeed in the mix of Xehanort idiot, it's most likely so don't judge dumb ass.

MX has yellow eyes.

Um, ya i know this...MX before going into darkness he possibly had brown eyes wow i highly doubt that his eye color was always yellow even before turning into dark...

MX = brown eyes [original]

 

[Muse]

Wow. Nice rant there, Samhain. Lol.

Im going to add a few things, OK, well, When Terra killed Old Man Xehanort and *fuses* (not the best word I could find) with DS and somehow, he falls to the ground and slept for 10 years from then pain he suffered... yadda yadda yadda...

he wakes up and all he remembers is the name Xehanort because of his past hatred to him. He meets Ansem and the story follows it's path

1. Wrap your font quotes around your entire post, please. You don't need to keep adding a new one for every line, you can wrap it around the whole thing and it won't change a thing. It will just make it easier to read whenever someone quotes you.

2. Terra didn't sleep for ten years. While I do agree that Terra in some way, shape, or form becomes Xehanort, I do not agree with you saying he sleeps for ten years. Especially since that's already shot down by the pure and simple fact that Xehanort was found by Ansem the Wise right after BBS ends. Not a year later, not ten years later, right afterwards. That could be anywhere from a few days to a week to even a month afterwards.

Xehanort becomes AtW's apprentice and we actually get to see him in KH2 in a flashback mere months after he is found. Not ten years later.

How else could Maleficent take over Radiant Garden nine years before the start of KH1 if, in your theory, Xehanort didn't become an apprentice of AtW and create the Heartless until ten years later? She couldn't have. Unless Xehanort created the Heartless ten years before the start of KH1, which would be one year before she took over. Does that make sense?

 

[tazmanianchocobo]

Retard that's like saying OH XEMNAS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARACTER THAN XEHANORT JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT APPEARENCES! O-M-G JUST BECAUSE NOMURA SAID TERRA DOESN'T APPEAR IN A GAME AFTER BBS DOESN'T MEAN SQUAT AS HE CAN MEAN HIM, TERRA [HIS BODY, HIS LOOKS] AND EVERYTHING FROM HIS IS GONE BUT IT CAN STILL BE CONSIDERED TERRA, god. Okay done yelling, your just an idiot who cannot understand the concept of the rules.

Okay, let's compare again the two cases you just brought before. Terra complete whole being, and Xemnas a Nobody. Oh my God your right there cases are exactly the same! What was I thinking... Oh wait I thought I was dealing with someone capable of intelligent thought. Listen Very Carefully I'll Speak Slowly So You Can Understand. Xemnas is a Nobody. Nobody's Don't Look Exactly Like Their Original Complete Self Because They Don't Have Hearts. Terra Is A Complete Being And Looks Different From Xehanort Because He Isn't Xehanort.

Yes his hair color is different, his eye color is different and so his skin tone but that can be explained with darkness. Riku changed his appearence by using the power of darkness [the most 100% he had at full power] and it changed his appearence of Xehanort's heartless thus lingering him looking like Xehanorts heartless because his shadow still lurks inside him. This can easily be said with Terra by MX' shadow lingering inside him causing his hair to change, his brown eyes[MASTER XEHANORT'S POSSIBLY ORIGINAL COLOR BEFORE GOING INTO THE DARK DUMBASSES], and getting him obsessed with darkness and also no male character besides Xehanort has the body build idiot besides Terra. Xemnas, XH, Xehanort all have the same body. Name me cannon characters who have the same body build as Xehanort besides Terra..oh that's right nothing.

Wow, your a genius...no wait, no you're not. If Terra's case was exactly like Riku's then Terra would have taken on the form of the old Master Xehanort and not a combination of the two. In case you didn't notice, which ok because you are slow, Riku's body not only changed in skin tone, eye color, hair color, and hair style, but it also changed his AGE. He took on the complete appearance of Xehanort not just some of his characteristics. Thus if Terra the same thing happened to Terra, as you suggested, then he would appear exactly like Master Xehanort. Saix also has the same body build. Also Dumbasses is the plural use of the word. I'm only one person. If you're going to insult me do it properly.

YEAH....TERRA AND XEHANORT DIFFERENT CHARACTERS? LOL YOU CRACK ME UP. Terra is indeed in the mix of Xehanort idiot, it's most likely so don't judge dumb ass.

No the most likely scenario is Master Xehanort being Xehanort. This fusion theory is actually one of the least likely to occur.

Honestly which theory are you fighting for. Like I said before the fusion theory is the only loop hole in what Nomura said. Because if it were to happen Terra would no longer be Terra. I've said that like twenty times. However Xehanort cannot be Terra, as in Terra by himself. That is what I mean when I say Terra is not Xehanort. Apparently you didn't get that.

 

[Samhain]

Okay, let's compare again the two cases you just brought before. Terra complete whole being, and Xemnas a Nobody. Oh my God your right there cases are exactly the same! What was I thinking... Oh wait I thought I was dealing with someone capable of intelligent thought. Listen Very Carefully I'll Speak Slowly So You Can Understand. Xemnas is a Nobody. Nobody's Don't Look Exactly Like Their Original Complete Self Because They Don't Have Hearts. Terra Is A Complete Being And Looks Different From Xehanort Because He Isn't Xehanort.

You are a complete moron. Xemnas looks very similar to Terra thus since Xemnas being the nobody of Xehanort who is indeed Terra and MX both to making Apprentice Xehanort they all have a connection. i guess you don't have the intelligence to see this now do you?
Okay...another thing nobodies mostly look like their original self. look at Namine...looks like kairi doesnt she? Roxas = Sora? they look alike maybe not in our eyes but the characters sure as hell seem like it so it is anyway and Xemnas looks like Xehanort who is Terra and MX. Terra is a complete being and is the same as Xehanort because he is Terra.
Terra - Xehanort have connections as MX and Xehanort have connections with each other....

Wow, your a genius...no wait, no you're not. If Terra's case was exactly like Riku's then Terra would have taken on the form of the old Master Xehanort and not a combination of the two. In case you didn't notice, which ok because you are slow, Riku's body not only changed in skin tone, eye color, hair color, and hair style, but it also changed his AGE. He took on the complete appearance of Xehanort not just some of his characteristics. Thus if Terra the same thing happened to Terra, as you suggested, then he would appear exactly like Master Xehanort. Saix also has the same body build. Also Dumbasses is the plural use of the word. I'm only one person. If you're going to insult me do it properly.

LOL, you crack me up with your stupidity. And Terra's case doesnt need to be exactly like Riku's now does it? it can easily be a bit different and since its kind of difference since Xehanort was a heartless its different when mx his complete being fuses in with Terra.
Saix also has the same body build? Yeah what happened to the "several ppl that have the same body build as Xehanort" havent gave that much thought have u?
Same height:
Xehanort
MX
Terra
XH
Xemnas all same height

No the most likely scenario is Master Xehanort being Xehanort. This fusion theory is actually one of the least likely to occur.

and how is it least likely to occur? OH MY GOD...YOU CAN TELL THE FUTURE!!! SO YOU CAN EASILY DROP THE MX + TERRA FUSION BECAUSE IT'S "LEAST LIKELY". Gee, thanks fortune teller but i think ill still stick with the fusion. my opinion, not yours and it cannot be "least likely to occur" it can be just as even as MX being Xehanort himself. You made yourself look completely idiotic in dat statement. the fusion theory can just be in the same % as MX being Xehanort himself due to the connections. the least to likely is DS = Xehanort, that's it.

 

[WilliamTheWise]

Listen Very Carefully I'll Speak Slowly So You Can Understand.

Okay

Xemnas is a Nobody. Nobody's Don't Look Exactly Like Their Original Complete Self Because They Don't Have Hearts.

Good so far

Terra Is A Complete Being And Looks Different From Xehanort Because He Isn't Xehanort.

Are you blind?

Wow, your a genius

Thank you

No the most likely scenario is Master Xehanort being Xehanort.

Not really
Most evidence says otherwise

Because if it were to happen Terra would no longer be Terra.

And theres a problem with this why?

However Xehanort cannot be Terra, as in Terra by himself.

Why not?

 

[Muse]

Saix also has the same body build.

It's similar, but not the same.

And the height's off.

 

[3-D]

you guys really look into the height, and body build...

yes! terra does look like Xehanort, okay.
but completely tuning out everything that claims that terra and Xehanort might not be connected is very ignorant

 

[tazmanianchocobo]

You are a complete moron. Xemnas looks very similar to Terra thus since Xemnas being the nobody of Xehanort who is indeed Terra and MX both to making Apprentice Xehanort they all have a connection. i guess you don't have the intelligence to see this now do you?
Okay...another thing nobodies mostly look like their original self. look at Namine...looks like kairi doesnt she? Roxas = Sora? they look alike maybe not in our eyes but the characters sure as hell seem like it so it is anyway and Xemnas looks like Xehanort who is Terra and MX. Terra is a complete being and is the same as Xehanort because he is Terra.
Terra - Xehanort have connections as MX and Xehanort have connections with each other....

First, none this has even been confirmed yet so stop talking like what you're saying is fact. The only facts in there are the ones I highlighted in the paragraph above. The rest is just conjecture. Second, you may not be able to see the similarities between Roxas and Sora and Namine and Kairi, but I can. All they did was copy Sora's and Kairi's character models and change the hair style and clothing. Third, I'm at least smart enough to form my own opinion about the subject and not try and complicate things more then they need to be.

LOL, you crack me up with your stupidity. And Terra's case doesnt need to be exactly like Riku's now does it? it can easily be a bit different and since its kind of difference since Xehanort was a heartless its different when mx his complete being fuses in with Terra.
Saix also has the same body build? Yeah what happened to the "several ppl that have the same body build as Xehanort" havent gave that much thought have u?
Same height:
Xehanort
MX
Terra
XH
Xemnas all same height

First, that is only guesstimations at Terra's height, same with MX's. From what we've seen from trailers for the game they appear to be the same height. However until the game is released we wont know. Second, you only asked for one person with a similar body build. If remember correctly you said none existed yet I brought one up.

and how is it least likely to occur? OH MY GOD...YOU CAN TELL THE FUTURE!!! SO YOU CAN EASILY DROP THE MX + TERRA FUSION BECAUSE IT'S "LEAST LIKELY". Gee, thanks fortune teller but i think ill still stick with the fusion. my opinion, not yours and it cannot be "least likely to occur" it can be just as even as MX being Xehanort himself. You made yourself look completely idiotic in dat statement. the fusion theory can just be in the same % as MX being Xehanort himself due to the connections. the least to likely is DS = Xehanort, that's it.

First, considering that the only examples of fusing in the games so far doesn't have the effect you're so banking on that would put the whole fusing theory further down on the list. That is why I say least likely. You really haven't done any research on this have you? Second, say 'dat' instead of 'that' makes you look more idiotic then me. Third, do to the examples of fusion present in the game DS = Xehanort is more likely then the fusion theory.


I think once again you all are misunderstanding what I'm saying. Am I saying that Terra doesn't look similar to Xehanort? No, I'm not. I'm saying that just because he looks similar to him doesn't mean there is a connection there. Several on this site even admits that Nomura re-uses character designs. All I'm saying is that this could be a situation like that. I have my reason why I think that which I have stated at least once in this thread. Also I'm not saying that the "Fusion" theory is possible. I'm saying that it is one of the most least likely of the out comes. The reason being that there are examples of it in the games and none of them have had the out come that the fusion theory states should happen. Another reason I'm opposed to it is because there isn't enough evidence to suggest that a fusion actually occurs. The other reason I'm opposed to it is because no one can think of a way for it to happen. All the majority of the people say is "That something happens and they fuse." They may cut for guys. That's fine I'm happy for you, but I'm not going to buy into it. I have my own opinions which is mainly what I have been stating, but what you are stating is also your guys opinion and not fact.

 

[Chakolat Strawberry]

DS = Xehanort is more likely then the fusion theory.

There's really not that much proof that DS = Xehanort, except the same height and stuff. And I know this has been mention alot but the fusion theory is very likely because adding Terra and MX's traits make Xehanort.

 

[tazmanianchocobo]

And I know this has been mention alot but the fusion theory is very likely because adding Terra and MX's traits make Xehanort.

That's the only reason why it exist and the first place. They're banking that MX's eyes are suppose to be brown. Which they may be. However that still doesn't change that fact that a single person, not a fusion, is more likely to be Xehanort.

 

[Captain Yoyo]

if the were connected it woud most likely have something to do with the memories of each

 

[Chakolat Strawberry]

if the were connected it woud most likely have something to do with the memories of each

Can you elaborate on that?

 

[Muse]

There's really not that much proof that DS = Xehanort, except the same height and stuff. And I know this has been mention alot but the fusion theory is very likely because adding Terra and MX's traits make Xehanort.

DS is shorter than Xehanort.

 

[Chakolat Strawberry]

DS is shorter than Xehanort.

Oh? I didn't notice. Well, more proof how DS = not Xehanort

 

[keybladelegacy]

Oh? I didn't notice. Well, more proof how DS = not Xehanort

Unless DS and MX fuse. Changing his appearance and maybe height.

 

[Muse]

But there's nothing connecting DS to Xehanort though. Nothing. At all. The only thing that might be considered a 'link' between the two is that they are both apprentices of someone.