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The BHK theory I don't entirely support...



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pwn3d to the max said:
so you want to break this to shread eh?

Namine did say that but she wants to make it so that the true was are thre, sora being in the tank/pod thing is to recreate that bond with the true memories.How could soras apperance change another being looks? That doesn't seem logical at all. Changing memories doesn't change your being, just the being of your mind, or your well being, self image etc.
Its kinda like my theory on heartless... (which I havn't finished yet, well really haven't motivated myself :p)
When a heart is seprated from the body, it needs a body, but seeing it can't obtain one it solves the problem by becoming the body instead. This way there is now a body without a heart, which is why it is called a heartless, however it is still a heart itself. Well I also believe that when Heartless become bodies, they no longer contain the memories inside them. So the being loses all memories of oneself and is only left with darkness, so it takes the form of darkness. Because it doesn't remember who it was, it's appearance changes. Now somebody could get amnesia and not remember who they are, but deep inside they would still have their true memories. So What I am saying is that when true memories themselves are rearanged and not just the false ones that hide them, that person's whole appearance could change. Then that leaves me with the question of what happens to the memories, perhaps the spirit (which is in the body) and soul beckon the memories to return to them and then they become unsettled and not in their true order, which could explain why the Org. doesn't remember who they used to be. Maybe the Org. are a group of individuals who have realised the illusion created by their false memories and are trying to regain them, along with their hearts.

He thinks of sora because he has already been told by namine about the strange boy that walked in with an unknown, that is how he found out about sora(i think) so he found this out and wants to know more so he asks diz, and then the big battle happens etc. The inplanted memories and the true memories can be murged, but wouldn't that be one of the first things namine does? Make the memories of twilight town destiny island. That would seem the most logical thing that she would do. Also, when did diz gain the power that only namine could do, menipulate memories. As far as we know he can't, that is why he has been using her, therefore he can't merge the memories. The new friends may be like soras ones, but not the same. Axel has been seen in many ways during that time, a teacher, and a foe. In the lastest trailor he has been seen as if tring to teach bhk how to weild the keyblade to the fullest, and bhk gives up.
How do you know that DiZ has been using Namine? There is no proof that DiZ is actually associated with the Org. And why should only one person be able to tamper with memories? Maybe anyone could if they knew how to properly. Why shouldn't DiZ know how to do something like tampering with memories. If anything, it's probably possible that DiZ knows more than Namine does and can not just only re-arrange and implant normal and false memories, but might even know how to rearrange true memories. And with the Axel thing, I haven't actually seen this new trailer yet, but why can't this be Sora Axel is teaching? The BHK being Sora wouldn't remember about the keyblade and fighting, so Axel would be helping out for some reason, maybe so he could beat him when Sora is at his best, or maybe so he could use him again.

Then why would he be incomplete. Sora in the lateest trailor has been seen as to be said that he is incomplete being, so how could he get the clothes after becomeing complete. Of course he meets up with donald and goofy, but right after the entire pod thing. He gained knowledge and experience from the events in the first game, with knowledge of this, it makes him mature, bhk is just like him, as a early being.
Yes I really should see this latest trailer... there are plenty of possible reasons for Sora's clothing change, but I didn't really focus on this, just the part about the BHK being Sora...
 

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Sora is told by Namine that memories cannot be wiped, but only rearranged to create new memories that hide the true ones. So it would be safe to assume that while in the tank/pod most of Sora's memories were fluttered about and not properly arranged, which is where Sora's appearance changed to that of the BHK's. This would explain that resemblance between the two (even though I don't really see it...)
namine is the only character we have met so far with her powers to tamper with memories, no one as far as we know can mess with memories.......and namine is watching over sora's pod to make sure he is kept safe
At the beginning, everywhere is white, and BHK speaks to DiZ, and All the BHK thinks about is Sora... Sora... because he is Sora, he asks "where is sora? Who is Sora?" HE IS LOOKING FOR HIMSELF. Then DiZ tests the BHK, and BHK confornts his memories and the Dusk, who are beings that DiZ controls perhaps, and portray the heartless that Sora fought in his dream. Then afterwards I suppose that someone (most likely DiZ testing him futher) tampers with the machine and Sora's memories, taking the ones of Twilight town and destiny Islands and merging them together. These new children he sits with portray the role of his old friends on the island, except Sora thinks this is all normal because his false memories again cloud his true memories. Twlight Town may as well be the first world in the game and takes on the role of destiny Island, where you learn how to play and adjust to the game. However BHK/Sora still in the back of his head keeps thinking about Sora. Eventually the BHK probably confronts Axel and Axel being the guy to spoil the fun would straight out tell BHK that he is Sora, and then gets him to meet up with Namine who again explains everything to him. (for the sake of the people who never played CoM)
how can DiZ tamper with BHK's memories if hes out the pod in thepod that makes no sense according to your theory.......at first you portray his memories and him seperate thenyou portray them as one being and thepod is the one whomessed up BHk/sora
 

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So What I am saying is that when true memories themselves are rearanged and not just the false ones that hide them, that person's whole appearance could change

but, in chain of memories soras memories where sort of shining through those, hence the oathkeeper keychain change to it's orginal form
 
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RikuHeroOfDark said:
namine is the only character we have met so far with her powers to tamper with memories, no one as far as we know can mess with memories.......and namine is watching over sora's pod to make sure he is kept safe
how can DiZ tamper with BHK's memories if hes out the pod in thepod that makes no sense according to your theory.......at first you portray his memories and him seperate thenyou portray them as one being and thepod is the one whomessed up BHk/sora
Only person we know SO FAR, that does not mean that she is the only one capable of doing it. DiZ most likely approached Namine and explained everything to her, that he was testing him and all that jazz. DiZ can be in and out of the Pod, because if he can tamper with memories then he can project himself into Sora's mind.

Pwn3d to the max said:
but, in chain of memories soras memories where sort of shining through those, hence the oathkeeper keychain change to it's orginal form
With the help of Namine, but now he would have to find himself on his own.
 
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Only person we know SO FAR, that does not mean that she is the only one capable of doing it. DiZ most likely approached Namine and explained everything to her, that he was testing him and all that jazz. DiZ can be in and out of the Pod, because if he can tamper with memories then he can project himself into Sora's mind.
why would DiZ call namine special if he had powers just like hers that makes no sense and why would she let someone mess with his memories while shes trying to fix it that makes no sense whatsoever and if you pay attention to the trailers BHK was fighting DiZ in the same room where sora was sleeping in the pod
 

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RikuHeroOfDark said:
why would DiZ call namine special if he had powers just like hers that makes no sense and why would she let someone mess with his memories while shes trying to fix it that makes no sense whatsoever and if you pay attention to the trailers BHK was fighting DiZ in the same room where sora was sleeping in the pod

Perhaps this is a nightmare; an implanted memory Diz implanted in him?
And we've only seen COM, I have a feeling Namine has more up her sleeve...
"Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories" is but a preview of what is to come :D
 
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RikuHeroOfDark said:
why would DiZ call namine special if he had powers just like hers that makes no sense and why would she let someone mess with his memories while shes trying to fix it that makes no sense whatsoever and if you pay attention to the trailers BHK was fighting DiZ in the same room where sora was sleeping in the pod
Why doesn't it make sense? C'mon these are stupid questions, just ask yourself the answers are simple. This is all just a possiblilty, we don't have to exactly know, just give a reasonable answer.

DiZ might call Namine special because she can do these things at such a young age, and she is good at drawing too. (the last part was a bad joke ok)
Namine probably wouldn't let DiZ mess with Sora's memories, but it's different if DiZ is testing Sora isn't it? Namine would understand that if Sora couldn't tap into his heart and discover his true self then how could he save the worlds or even call himself the Keyblade master?

Now the last question is something I like, very nice observation indeed! ;)
I think I could even see Sora in that pod too! You may have disproved this theory! And so early too! You may have poiled my fun :p

It's possible that DiZ projected the vision of the Pod in BHKs mind, I would say that the dream comes first and then he wakes up in that room or something, and comes across DiZ, who probably tricks BHK by showing Sora in a pod and making him think that he is someone else (as in tricking BHK to think he isn't Sora). But you never know...
 
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