The role of Riku, Kairi and the rest of the characters in post-KH3.

[Nukara]

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I specifically created this separate topic.
I still think what role Riku, Lea, Roxas, Kairi, Xion, Ventus, Aqua, Terra can play in future KH titles.
I personally initially thought that Ava is Kairi, but maybe it is really Namine, then what role will Kairi play in the future, will it finally go to the background or be the “key” in the search for Sora.
I still do not cease to see the similarity of "foretellers" with Riku, Aqua, Terra, Roxas.
Invi and Aqua have water-related abilities, Terra and Aced have similar keyblade, Ira and Riku colors in their clothing.
If Xigbar is a body for Luxu, and Namine can be Ava's reincarnation, why can't this theory have the right to life?
But even without this Riku and Kairi friends of Sora, they will definitely play a role.
Lea and Isa were friends with a mysterious girl in childhood, which also gives them development for a future saga. Roxas and Xion are related to Sora by the fact that he is the one who "created" them. Ventus is associated with the UX era, and Terra and Aqua his best friends do not think that they will stand aside because their friend decided to learn more about his past.
I am very, very interested in your theories on this. Because I am really attached to these characters and I am very interested in their role in the future.

 

[Graceful Schemer]

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I know the theory, but I personally would rather have distinct characters rather than A is B. I can take things like Roxas since he is neither Sora nor Ventus, but aspects of the two together as a new being. Having said that, the similarity is difficult to overlook once you are aware of the theory. However, it is also altered time and time again. Did we not start with Gula = Ventus and Ava = Kairi? When Ventus is in UX, this is in disarray and now Brain is Gula apparently. And, it would be so weird since Gula and Ava seems to be a pair and so is Ira and Invi (so whoever Gula is supposed to be and Kairi/Namine?) (Riku and Aqua?).

Either way, as for who has cards left to play. Sora and Kairi are a given. Riku is going to stay around. Hayner, Pence, and Olette should just be done. Roxas and Xion should also just rest and only help out when really necessary. They have no plot going on. Lea and Isa, on the other hand, have more. Considering that we have never really have a story-based non-keyblade wielders playable characters, Isa will need one. There are so many Keyblade Masters around it would not be difficult anyway. Ventus has role left. The extent of Terra and Aqua's involvement will probably depends on him. Namine is going to be around and her power may come into play. Most importantly, Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene leaves a significant plot threads compared to the Ansem's Apprentices which will fade into background bar research support unless Aeleus' issue with Sora/Roxas needs to be solved. Dilan does not have anything going on even in this game. Have not catch what Even's desire for atonement is. And, Ienzo is probably the most relevant going forward (of the remaining apprentices) since he seems to be the new Ansem/the Successor. Aside from that, his resemblance with Brain as some people think/point out.

 

[Nukara]

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I know the theory, but I personally would rather have distinct characters rather than A is B. I can take things like Roxas since he is neither Sora nor Ventus, but aspects of the two together as a new being. Having said that, the similarity is difficult to overlook once you are aware of the theory. However, it is also altered time and time again. Did we not start with Gula = Ventus and Ava = Kairi? When Ventus is in UX, this is in disarray and now Brain is Gula apparently. And, it would be so weird since Gula and Ava seems to be a pair and so is Ira and Invi (so whoever Gula is supposed to be and Kairi/Namine?) (Riku and Aqua?).

Either way, as for who has cards left to play. Sora and Kairi are a given. Riku is going to stay around. Hayner, Pence, and Olette should just be done. Roxas and Xion should also just rest and only help out when really necessary. They have no plot going on. Lea and Isa, on the other hand, have more. Considering that we have never really have a story-based non-keyblade wielders playable characters, Isa will need one. There are so many Keyblade Masters around it would not be difficult anyway. Ventus has role left. The extent of Terra and Aqua's involvement will probably depends on him. Namine is going to be around and her power may come into play. Most importantly, Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene leaves a significant plot threads compared to the Ansem's Apprentices which will fade into background bar research support unless Aeleus' issue with Sora/Roxas needs to be solved. Dilan does not have anything going on even in this game. Have not catch what Even's desire for atonement is. And, Ienzo is probably the most relevant going forward (of the remaining apprentices) since he seems to be the new Ansem/the Successor. Aside from that, his resemblance with Brain as some people think/point out.

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Thanks for the answer.))
I would like at least Roxas to appear for his two keyblade possessions are the coolest that Nomura could come up with. I really would not want him to go to the background. ((

 

 

[Deleted member 246005]

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Basically there are 3 plots teased at the end of the game. They are Kairi/Sora finds each other plot, the Ven remembers his past in the Union era, and the Lea/Isa search for their missing friends. Each comes with its own protagonist(s) so the other characters form the supporting cast around them.

For example- Roxas/Xion are helping out Lea/Isa and fills the role of Donald and Goofy in the party. Terra and Aqua naturally go with Ven. Kairi makes use of Donald/Goofy/Riku while Namine fills the Jiminy role of chronicling her journey.

The remaining organization is gonna pops as villains while the remaining apprentices are gonna be allies. This might be limited to Isa/Lea's arc but could be true of all three plots. Hayner, Pence, Ollete are probably gonna be comic relief characters and the equivalent of Chip and Dale in the gummy ship.

 

[U.N. Owen]

Terra and Ven should take the Mark of Mastery from Aqua. Eraqus never dubbed Terra a master and Ven probably has a good argument to take the exam since Riku is a master and he's around his age.

Ven still has amnesia from his early life because of Vanitas and Xehanort, so Namine should help him fill the gaps and reconstruct him, leading into the Foreteller plot.

Axel should be playing the dad to Roxas and Xion. They are only a year or two old after all. They have a lot to learn.

Kairi should willingly throw herself into reckless situations to get more combat experience. One: learning in practice is much different from learning in training. Two: she probably feels responsible for Sora's disappearance.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Thing is I could actually see

these three separate plot lines intersect in certain intervals as while Kairi and Riku might be the ones primarily searching for Sora, both Roxas and Ventus are tightly connected with Sora and since they owe their new chance at life to him they might want to help out on occasion if their own plots allow it.

Naminé herself could be important to all three plot lines due to her memory-related powers although it could seem that she might fit in most with Ven's third her unique relation to Sora might involve her in Kairi's and Riku's third while her relation with Roxas and Xion might have her play a secondary support role in Lea's and Isa's third.


In general I think that a character shouldn't be too easily dismissed just because their current arc is done. Crafting and opening a new arc is easily possible.

Maybe they should even mix up the formula a little as in

Kairi actually travels together with Aqua and learns from her in the field while Terra plays main support for Ventus in his quest. Riku may switch at his leisure between either group or sticks with one of them while Mickey travels with the other.
Which would mean either Kairi/Aqua/Riku and Ventus/Terra/Mickey or Kairi/Aqua/Mickey and Ventus/Terra/Riku. The latter combination would also allow Riku to spend more time with Terra while Kairi would have the chance to truly develop bonds and relationships outside her already established trio.

Lea and Isa would obviously have Roxas and Xion as support, that wouldn't change.

Naminé I can see being somewhat of a "mission control officer" for all three groups, possibly relaying info from and to Yen Sid.

 

[brandedkarma]

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I specifically created this separate topic.
I still think what role Riku, Lea, Roxas, Kairi, Xion, Ventus, Aqua, Terra can play in future KH titles.
I personally initially thought that Ava is Kairi, but maybe it is really Namine, then what role will Kairi play in the future, will it finally go to the background or be the “key” in the search for Sora.
I still do not cease to see the similarity of "foretellers" with Riku, Aqua, Terra, Roxas.
Invi and Aqua have water-related abilities, Terra and Aced have similar keyblade, Ira and Riku colors in their clothing.
If Xigbar is a body for Luxu, and Namine can be Ava's reincarnation, why can't this theory have the right to life?
But even without this Riku and Kairi friends of Sora, they will definitely play a role.
Lea and Isa were friends with a mysterious girl in childhood, which also gives them development for a future saga. Roxas and Xion are related to Sora by the fact that he is the one who "created" them. Ventus is associated with the UX era, and Terra and Aqua his best friends do not think that they will stand aside because their friend decided to learn more about his past.
I am very, very interested in your theories on this. Because I am really attached to these characters and I am very interested in their role in the future.

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I feel like KH3 would have been the perfect time to cut some of the cast down to welcome in the UX era ones but I doubt we're gonna get that. I feel like 3 should have been a fitting conclusion to the stories of Terra, Aqua, Roxas, Xion, Axel, and Isa (you know, the people who's lives were practically ruined by Xehanort) and they could maybe make brief cameos or be referenced in future installments. Riku and Kairi are mainstays so I don't see anyway they're getting the chop. In fact, I really hope KH3 is a wake-up call for Kairi character wise and that she shapes up but I really doubt it with the way Nomura wrote the women in KH3. Even Larxene got brought down.

I don't think that'll be the case now though due to Axel and Isa's connection to the mysterious Subject X. Obviously Nomura could just bring just Axel and Isa back in the next game but because they were all a happy group together at the end with Roxas and Xion, I assume we'll be seeing them all. I mean... Roxas and Xion basically got their happy ending: they get to be their own people and eat ice-cream with their friends. I guess an in-verse explanation to the characters for why Roxas and Ventus look like could be done? That point was just brushed off with a glance between the pair towards the end.

Terra and Aqua are such a huge factor in Ven's identity post-UX so it's not like they can be just left out of the story but other than that, I'm not really sure what they can offer in their own way. Seeing as Eraqus and Xehanort started up a "new game", Terra and Aqua are pretty much just 'walking keys' for the future showdown with the Foretellers in the grand scheme of things.

Assuming all the UX crowd make the jump to the next game, there's gonna be: Ephemer, Skuld, Brain, Laurium, Elrena, Demyx's somebody, Luxord's somebody, the Foretellers, Luxu/Braig and potentially the MoM in the main cast with likely inclusion from Ansem the Wise and his Apprentices due to the fact that they'll have some info on Subject X. To me, personally, I feel like that's way too bloated a roster of characters.

 

[Nukara]

Thing is I could actually see

these three separate plot lines intersect in certain intervals as while Kairi and Riku might be the ones primarily searching for Sora, both Roxas and Ventus are tightly connected with Sora and since they owe their new chance at life to him they might want to help out on occasion if their own plots allow it.

Naminé herself could be important to all three plot lines due to her memory-related powers although it could seem that she might fit in most with Ven's third her unique relation to Sora might involve her in Kairi's and Riku's third while her relation with Roxas and Xion might have her play a secondary support role in Lea's and Isa's third.


In general I think that a character shouldn't be too easily dismissed just because their current arc is done. Crafting and opening a new arc is easily possible.

Maybe they should even mix up the formula a little as in

Kairi actually travels together with Aqua and learns from her in the field while Terra plays main support for Ventus in his quest. Riku may switch at his leisure between either group or sticks with one of them while Mickey travels with the other.
Which would mean either Kairi/Aqua/Riku and Ventus/Terra/Mickey or Kairi/Aqua/Mickey and Ventus/Terra/Riku. The latter combination would also allow Riku to spend more time with Terra while Kairi would have the chance to truly develop bonds and relationships outside her already established trio.

Lea and Isa would obviously have Roxas and Xion as support, that wouldn't change.

Naminé I can see being somewhat of a "mission control officer" for all three groups, possibly relaying info from and to Yen Sid.

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I think Kairi may feel guilty about the "death" of Sora.
(Great platform for Angst fan fiction)

 

[Deleted member 246005]

These are just potential plots I thought of-

I once suggested Lea try to be Vanitas's good sponsor in one of the KH3 threads. So that plot bunny could still be used as a subplot in a different game.

Xion ends up becoming a scientist in the future and explores the Data realm.

Riku ends up a knight of Disney castle and goes around protecting the worlds. He's joined by Max Goof and his squad of cadets.

Terra ends up with Xemnas's control over the Nothingness element and goes on a journey to master it. He may travel with Aeleus and Ienzo and we get a bit of explanation on what the elements are etc.

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Invi looks like Aqua and uses that to discredit Aqua's reputation. I thought of Gula being Ven's twin brother but that feels like a retread of his dynamic with Vanitas.

Someone gets hired as a bodyguard for Scrooge McDuck.

Namine's powers shift to something like Sai's from Naruto- she can bring her drawings to life.

 

[gosoxtim]

i got a theroy on the master of masters that makes sense yeah sora is the master of master but not our sora is different master of masters while the backcover is different sora from another timeline after both clash the world will be remorn and everybody will get new lives and start over again and i think we see eveobody future in the reborn world