The truth about Kingdom Hearts

[QuarterNort]

I keep thinking about this since I re-played KH BbS FM so...

What if Kingdom Hearts was just a myth?
I mean, stop and think with me.

So much is said about Kingdom Hearts in the game, but so little is known. There is no character alive on the franchise that has ever seen or knew some other character who could prove its existence. I know, sounds goofy (no pun intended), but lemme go deeper.

Even on KH Chi/ Unchained Chi, Kingdom Hearts is far beyond reach or knowledge.
What if Kingdom Hearts never ever existed in the first place? What if MX was just using it as an excuse to re-forge the Chi-blade and use it for another purpose? Or maybe better: What if MX want to CREATE the real Kingdom Hearts with the Chi-blade? What if he knows the truth and want the Kingdom Hearts to be true?
Is it too far fetched?

MX seems more interested on forging the Chi-Blade than reaching KH itself aswell.
I mean, for me it seems very plausible, regarding that even MX and other characters describes Kingdom Hearts in so many ways, but nothing consistent. Besides, so many times we were close to a fake Kingdom Hearts, but never to the real one. (when Ansem SoD presents to Sora in KH1 the Door to Darkness/ when Xemnas create a fake one/ when MX conjures something that seems to foreshadow Kingdom Hearts but it seems kinda off at the same time (?))

We also know that the Keyblade War has nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts.

 

[BlackOsprey]

Well, that's all very well and good, but...
If Kingdom Hearts is just a myth, tell me where hearts come from.

What if MX was just using it as an excuse to re-forge the Chi-blade and use it for another purpose?

What other purpose would it even have? The only thing that's ever been stated about the X-Blade is that it safeguards Kingdom Hearts. And no, I don't believe lack of evidence constitutes as evidence, so let's not even start going there.

Or maybe better:

What if MX want to CREATE the real Kingdom Hearts with the Chi-blade? What if he knows the truth and want the Kingdom Hearts to be true?
Is it too far fetched?

Yeah. I'd say so. Again, nothing has implied that the X-Blade can do anything other than safeguard Kingdom Hearts. By safeguard, I believe that means "allows it to exist without getting swallowed up by the darkness." Hence why its shattering caused it to be lost way back when. Forging one now would allow for the true Kingdom Hearts to be revealed out of the darkness once more.

MX seems more interested on forging the Chi-Blade than reaching KH itself aswell.

Yeah no. He's interested in forging the thing because it's an essential step towards revealing Kingdom Hearts. If you're obsessed with opening a box to get the treasure inside, you're gonna be obsessed with finding its key.

We also know that the Keyblade War has nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts.

It's certainly become more complicated of a picture than "hundreds upon thousands of warriors killing eachother over a heart-shaped moon," but the main reason why the unions started to squabble in the first place was because they wanted to protect the world in their own way. Of course, protecting the world was intrinsically tied to the light and darkness... and just where did the light come from in the pre-Keyblade War era, again? Oh, right. From the true Kingdom Hearts, of course.

 

[Deleted member]

I mean, the X-Blade is said to be the counterpart to Kingdom Hearts, so if it exists, so should KH?
And we see several KHes throughout the series, so there is clearly something to it. Even if these KHes are meant to be unnaturally brought about, they are still technically KHes.

MX "seems" more interested in forging the X-Blade than reaching KH because forging the X-Blade is said to be the only way TO reach the true KH.

(I'm also still of the belief that the light we see from KH in KH1 is still from the real KH)

I really don't think they are going to go down this route.

If Kingdom Hearts is just a myth, tell me where hearts come from.

When a woman and a man love each other verrrrry much.....

 

[QuarterNort]

I mean, the X-Blade is said to be the counterpart to Kingdom Hearts, so if it exists, so should KH?
And we see several KHes throughout the series, so there is clearly something to it. Even if these KHes are meant to be unnaturally brought about, they are still technically KHes.

MX "seems" more interested in forging the X-Blade than reaching KH because forging the X-Blade is said to be the only way TO reach the true KH.

(I'm also still of the belief that the light we see from KH in KH1 is still from the real KH)

I really don't think they are going to go down this route.


When a woman and a man love each other verrrrry much.....

Now there is a goodpoint but... they could make up this counterpart thing along with the myth, couldnt they? I mean to make sense and all, or the explain the Chi-Blade existence (???), or the hide something bigger/more important (??????)
By they I mean the person(people) who, in the game, supposedly made up the myth

About the hearts issue: well, what about they came naturally? Like soul and body?
What if they create this myth to justify the War or to explain the great power of the hearts?
People make myths to explain what they dont know (mainly what they fear).

I came up with this theory cos its sounds like possible when you think about the religious refs in Chi.
You know... Guilty...
Religion make me think about crusades that justify killing by sin, guilty is the "result" of sin.
So what if Heartless arent the bad guys at all and all this KH mess is about getting rid of them justified on a greater good (that doesnt even exist, AKA Kingdom Hearts)?

 

[BlackOsprey]

When a woman and a man love each other verrrrry much.....

stfu Audo, this isn't FI and your name isn't Launchpad or Chuman. 8D

Now there is a goodpoint but... they could make up this counterpart thing along with the myth, couldnt they? I mean to make sense and all, or the explain the Chi-Blade existence (???), or the hide something bigger/more important (??????)
By they I mean the person(people) who, in the game, supposedly made up the myth

First of all, who is this nebulous "they" that you're talking about? Second of all, where did the light come from, if not from Kingdom Hearts? Again, nothing has implied that Kingdom Hearts is not real, so I see no reason in doubting its existence.

About the hearts issue: well, what about they came naturally? Like soul and body?

Except hearts aren't like souls or bodies, which fade and die with time. They're also... well, they're unique and powerful, but more importantly, they don't die like the body or soul. Which makes ya wonder: what made em like that, and where do they go afterwards? You can't get something like a heart out of nothing. (Ok, so things can grow hearts, but they need to interact with other beings to do so, which requires a heart at some point.)

So what if Heartless arent the bad guys at all and all this KH mess is about getting rid of them justified on a greater good (that doesnt even exist, AKA Kingdom Hearts)?

You try telling that to all the people who have watched those things devour worlds and rip people's hearts out, lmao.
Since when has fighting the Heartless been some sort of crusade in the name of Kingdom Hearts? It's always been about defending the worlds and their inhabitants from getting devoured by primordial darkness zombies.

 

[Deleted member]

I just don't see what this would really add to the story. Or how it could be pulled off in a game that isn't the end of the series. If KH3 reveals that KH is just a myth and doesn't exist, then how is the series of Kingdom Hearts games meant to go on? I also don't know how it could be a myth, yet we also have evidences of KHes being a real thing that can exist. Like even if the other KHes were unnaturally brought about, they were still real. They still came into being, and still, presumably, held great power.

Nothing in KHx from what I've seen would suggest that Kingdom Hearts isn't real or that the War wasn't largely fought over it in some way.

stfu Audo, this isn't FI and your name isn't Launchpad or Chuman. 8D

aw. okay. i was just kidding anyway. we all know straight people are incapable of love.

 

[QuarterNort]

I just don't see what this would really add to the story. Or how it could be pulled off in a game that isn't the end of the series. If KH3 reveals that KH is just a myth and doesn't exist, then how is the series of Kingdom Hearts games meant to go on? I also don't know how it could be a myth, yet we also have evidences of KHes being a real thing that can exist. Like even if the other KHes were unnaturally brought about, they were still real. They still came into being, and still, presumably, held great power.

Nothing in KHx from what I've seen would suggest that Kingdom Hearts isn't real or that the War wasn't largely fought over it in some way.


aw. okay. i was just kidding anyway. we all know straight people are incapable of love.

Hmmmm, and what about all the KHes being unnatural and yet legit?
I mean, no "real"/Original KH, but all they were true, based on a myth?

donno, I'm starting to loose myself on my own theory sorry lol

EDIT: Even better, what if KH isnt swallowed by darkness but its everywhere but unreachable without Chi-Blade? I mean what if KH is, by all means, on each heart?

ok, I'm not here anymore :V

 

[BlackOsprey]

Hmmmm, and what about all the KHes being unnatural and yet legit?
I mean, no "real"/Original KH, but all they were true, based on a myth?

The true Kingdom Hearts is the source of ALL hearts and all light. Massing a ton of worlds' hearts or people's hearts together may produce an enormous amount of power, but it's not the same.

donno, I'm starting to loose myself on my own theory sorry lol

Given that it's mostly what-if scenarios without much evidence going for em, can't say that I'm surprised.

 

[VoidGear.]

This is Kingdom Hearts we're talking about.
Remember the time when people thought the One Piece wasn't real and just "inside the Pirate King's heart" or something like that? Ugh. That was a "whatifwhatifwhatif" theory as well.

Os already named many reasons why it's not very plausible that Kingdom Hearts is just a legend that doesn't really exist. Maybe it somehow alters from what people think it is, but it definitely exists in some way. It'd also be a kick in the players' faces to name a series that's been around for 14 years now (happy 14th birthday, KH1) with many installments that revolve around said "Kingdom Hearts", after a myth.

 

[CT222]

What if Sora is just in a coma and it is similar to that Ash theory

 

[BlackOsprey]

What if Sora is just in a coma and it is similar to that Ash theory

Oh please. You can do better than that. Like...

What if the entirety of Kingdom Hearts just takes place in the imagination of a young Disney and Star Wars fan who's playing with his toys after watching his older siblings play Final Fantasy?

And don't tell me that kids can't come up with unbelievably complicated plots, because that's what my friends and I used to do before we were even teenagers.

 

[LightUpTheSky452]

I once saw a conspiracy theory on TV Tropes saying that Kingdom Hearts is secretly a sequel to "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" being "filmed". That would be something to see. LOL.

 

[QuarterNort]

I once saw a conspiracy theory on TV Tropes saying that Kingdom Hearts is secretly a sequel to "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" being "filmed". That would be something to see. LOL.

thats either mad and fabulous, I love it LOL