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Why are there so many people constantly complaining about the compilations? They're fine to me. In fact, being the fact that FFVII was my most cherished and favorite Final Fantasy, I was rather disappointed a game with such a long specific plot would END just like that (Meteor falls; lifestream comes; credits roll; Red XIII appears; I'm thinkg 'WTF')

Yeah, and like there are a lot of games based on FFVII? God...
Final Fantasy VII (Original)Beat it, can't complain about this because we won't include this as one of the compilations
Before CrisisYeah...my cousin has it on his cell phone (He travels on business trips a lot); It's a decent game. Wouldn't say it's the best but it's decent.
Last OrderJust saw it today. It's very short. It comes with AC. This shouldn't be a problem to anyone -_-
Advent ChildrenI bought it off Yes-Asia. Best movie I've seen to this day (Recently jumped over Kill Bill). Veterans of the original MUST at least see this movie or you're not a true FFVII fan.
Dirge of CerberusThe only reason you won't like this game would be the gun action. But what's so bad about it if you can actually play one more game that completes the series?
Crisis CoreNot much info given on this compilation so why complain? o.o


OMG! FOUR COMPILATIONS! TWO GAMES ONLY AND ONLY ONE'S ON THE PS2!!!

If you don't like the compilations, quit complaining! They're out, so shut up. Don't like them? Then don't play them.

The compilations DOESN'T ruin the story to FFVII; it COMPLETES it.

Besides the ones who already hated FFVII from the start (*hint hint* LordMune, Monkeybutt *hint hint*), if you really are a FFVII fan, the compilations shouldn't be THIS much of a problem for you.
 

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Look it's your opinion.

But we got enough Cloud games...

KH1, KH2, Ehrgeiz, FFTactics, FF7, FF7ADvent Children, FF7 Dirge of Cerberus, FF7 Crisis Core and FF7 Before Crisis... Enough!!
 

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New2Ya said:
Look it's your opinion.

But we got enough Cloud games...

KH1, KH2, Ehrgeiz, FFTactics, FF7, FF7ADvent Children, FF7 Dirge of Cerberus, FF7 Crisis Core and FF7 Before Crisis... Enough!!


Ergheiz had no goddam plot with Cloud. He was just there to make a cameo! As well as KH1, Kh2, and Tactics.

Don't complain about that though. They barely count. Square only put them to rack in attention.

Not just my goddam opinion. In fact, I find many people on these forums constantly complaining about the compilations. Well, I can't blame you. This site is built for KH lovers. I go to FF forums, this stuff doesn't happen. No one would constantly complain there.

So what if there are games including him? Look at the Legend of Zelda. Know how many fans love that series?
 

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Don't you see? Nomura is just USING you for easy money.
Final Fantasy VII is one of the few games that leaves practically no loose strings for a sequel to deal with. FFVII has become synonymous with crass commercialism, and the stupid fanboy masses (this isn't directed at anyone in particular) who won't realize they're just Square-Enix' cash pool, enabling S-E to work on more interesting projects than FFVII. For which, I suppose, I should be grateful.
 

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LordMune said:
Don't you see? Nomura is just USING you for easy money.
Final Fantasy VII is one of the few games that leaves practically no loose strings for a sequel to deal with. FFVII has become synonymous with commercialism, and the stupid fanboy masses (this isn't directed at anyone in particular) who won't realize they're just Square-Enix' cash pool, enabling S-E to work on more interesting projects than FFVII. For which, I suppose, I should be grateful.


"Nomura is just USING you for easy money."
Aw...That means KH2 is one too, no? Don't forget FFX2. o.o (Hypocracy >.<)

I'm not a fanboy. I just love FFVII. If they CROSS THE LINE, I would complain among you guys but I don't see where they did so far. I mean, Advent Children was terrific. It was absolutely great to watch. As well as Last Order and Before Crisis.

If they did something to FFVII to make it lose its value (just like FFX2), I'd probably not enjoy these games. It kept its FFVII environment without abandoning the fact that it's still set in that realm.

S-E is a money loving company (hope they don't find this thread if I sign up). As you already can tell by their constant non-Final Fantasy and non-Dragon warrior video games, they keep dishing out these games that normally get a low score (not all but most).

FFVII was great. I love Advent Children. But to my opinion, I believe DoC was overdoing it but I loved everything up till now. I may be an FF veteran but that doesn't mean I can't scope out the good from the bad and I see little bad o.o
 

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Heartless1990 said:
"Nomura is just USING you for easy money."
Aw...That means KH2 is one too, no?
Yes, most fail to realize this. Good. And please, don't bring FFX-2 into this. >_>;

I'd rather just forget the hours of my life spent playing that.
 

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Yes, most fail to realize this. Good. And please, don't bring FFX-2 into this. >_>;

I'd rather just forget the hours of my life spent playing that.


Haha. That's what I thought as well (Let's tell this to Monkeybutt ^-^)

As for FFVII, I still think it's all right that they had the compilations. I wouldn't say it was neccessary but it was fine with them instead of those people out there endlessly ranting on how they shouldn't have been made -_-

Sigh...
 

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Haha. That's what I thought as well (Let's tell this to Monkeybutt ^-^)

As for FFVII, I still think it's all right that they had the compilations. I wouldn't say it was neccessary but it was fine with them instead of those people out there endlessly ranting on how they shouldn't have been made -_-

Sigh...
Don't get me wrong- I still think whoever thought up the "FFVII Compilation" should be shot repeatedly in the general area of his genitals. FFX-2 is still way better than what DoC is turning out to be. Dirge of Cerberus, AKA the "let's make an action game where you have to stop moving to aim and you move slowly and you can't strafe and we use that prototype graphics engine we scrapped while we were developing FFIX" game.

I'm not sure those are all facts per se, but I think the point gets across.
 

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LordMune said:
Don't get me wrong- I still think whoever thought up the "FFVII Compilation" should be shot repeatedly in the general area of his genitals. FFX-2 is still way better than what DoC is turning out to be. Dirge of Cerberus, AKA the "let's make an action game where you have to stop moving to aim and you move slowly and you can't strafe and we use that prototype graphics engine we scrapped while we were developing FFIX" game.

I'm not sure those are all facts per se, but I think the point gets across.


To be honest, I don't like DoC much. But none the less, it is a Final Fantasy game and may I add that it IS a FFVII game. I will only judge it once it is released but not now.

As for the other FFVII compilations, they were terrific. (i.e. Advent Children)

But though it may not be considered a compilation, the possible FFVII remake seems to catch many peoples' attention. It seems possible that S-E will remake it to grab some "dough" (I'm not the type of person who does stree talke ^.^)

I don't know what to feel for the possible remake actually.

But still on the subject on the other compilations, DoC isn't so bad as long as they reveal more about Vincent...I suppose? o_O
 
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To be honest, I don't like DoC much. But none the less, it is a Final Fantasy game and may I add that it IS a FFVII game. I will only judge it once it is released but not now.

As for the other FFVII compilations, they were terrific. (i.e. Advent Children)

But though it may not be considered a compilation, the possible FFVII remake seems to catch many peoples' attention. It seems possible that S-E will remake it to grab some "dough" (I'm not the type of person who does stree talke ^.^)

I don't know what to feel for the possible remake actually.

But still on the subject on the other compilations, DoC isn't so bad as long as they reveal more about Vincent...I suppose? o_O


Advent children was...good...You are nuts I mean It was ok the first time but after the third time you should realise that all that movie is is crappy dialog and fighting...

And about Doc...as long as its better than Ghost in the shell stand alone complex I think it might be rentable....but you muct not have payed attention to FF7 to want to know more about vincent...

SPOILERS


He was a turk back when sephiroth was ' made' he was in love with lucrectia.. who was sephiroths birth mother... later sephiroth ..'altered him and threw him in the basement..where you find him....

he uses a gun because of his time in the turks and he can transform due to whatever seph did to his body..


END Spoilers..

and you forgot FF7: last order...
 

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Advent children was...good...You are nuts I mean It was ok the first time but after the third time you should realise that all that movie is is crappy dialog and fighting...

I liked it. o.o

I saw it twice.

o_O?

What's your point?

And about Doc...as long as its better than Ghost in the shell stand alone complex I think it might be rentable....but you muct not have payed attention to FF7 to want to know more about vincent...

SPOILERS


He was a turk back when sephiroth was ' made' he was in love with lucrectia.. who was sephiroths birth mother... later sephiroth ..'altered him and threw him in the basement..where you find him....

he uses a gun because of his time in the turks and he can transform due to whatever seph did to his body..


END Spoilers..

What? That's a spoiler? I just got AC two days ago and I already knew that -_-

and you forgot FF7: last order...

No I didn't. o.o

Read everything-_-




AC was great to me. I liked it for the fact not because of its fighting (well....partially) but I liked it because at least it filled us in where FFVII left off.

Compare FFVII:AC to FF:SW. AC will seem like the best movie ever in comparison -_-

Eh, the dialogue was okay. But the jap was a little kiddy. I understood everything without subtitles. It was so simple. o_O

The plot wasn't so deep but I liked how it kept a lot of FFVII elements in it and that made it become one of my favorite movies.

So, can you really say it SUCKS? o.o

I would say it's decent but I won't complain about it. o.^
 

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Don't get me wrong. I love FFVII. But there is no chance I am going to read all those posts, so I'll just make my point blunt. IMO, FFVII itself is good enough. You don't need to have all these prequels and sequels to it, or if you are going to make them, just make one sequel and one prequel. I'm going to safely say that the best things in life are the ones that leave you hanging with questions, and if that is so wrong that you are willing to side with the supporters of all the compilations, be my guest and shell out all your cash. Like LordMune said, you're being used. I mean, what was with Final Fantasy Advent Children? Did it actually add anything to the original story? So good ol' Sephy comes back only to get beaten again. Nothing surprising, and you know it. And anyway, I will repeat that IMO, FFVII was good enough as it is. If you actually have more questions, go to Wikipedia or ripoff the work of others who actually thoroughly went through every nook and cranny of the game. If you hate the ending, well that just sucks for you. Go entertain yourself with some FanFiction or write your own. Either way, I'm not reading it.

On a side note, this thread is pointless. So one disgruntled fans is complaining about other people's complaints. Big. Effing. Whoop. You're either with it, or against it; and if you can't accept the fact that supposedly a large number of members here dislike the whole idea of compilations, keep it to yourself, because obviously, no one will care.

And just to repeat one more time, I didn't bother reading any more than the first few posts. If you can't understand that much and actually bash me on that fact, then that's great because it tells me you're wasting your time. Good Day, sir.
 
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What? That's a spoiler? I just got AC two days ago and I already knew that -_-
But you still want to know more about him...what for? the point of vincent was to be mysterious and you think they should reveal more facts about him...any of which would have very little to do with FF7 at all..because those facts are out in the open...
 

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But you still want to know more about him...what for? the point of vincent was to be mysterious and you think they should reveal more facts about him...any of which would have very little to do with FF7 at all..because those facts are out in the open...

Oh boy, a mystery boy.

I like enigmatic characters in stories but the thing that interests me is uncovering the story about them. Vincent's not that mysterious actually. He's all right but not too mysterious. Well, DoC seems to keep an impression that they'll reveal more about Vincent.

I hope? o.o
 

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Don't get me wrong. I love FFVII. But there is no chance I am going to read all those posts, so I'll just make my point blunt. IMO, FFVII itself is good enough. You don't need to have all these prequels and sequels to it, or if you are going to make them, just make one sequel and one prequel. I'm going to safely say that the best things in life are the ones that leave you hanging with questions, and if that is so wrong that you are willing to side with the supporters of all the compilations, be my guest and shell out all your cash. Like LordMune said, you're being used. I mean, what was with Final Fantasy Advent Children? Did it actually add anything to the original story? So good ol' Sephy comes back only to get beaten again. Nothing surprising, and you know it. And anyway, I will repeat that IMO, FFVII was good enough as it is. If you actually have more questions, go to Wikipedia or ripoff the work of others who actually thoroughly went through every nook and cranny of the game. If you hate the ending, well that just sucks for you. Go entertain yourself with some FanFiction or write your own. Either way, I'm not reading it.

That sums up how I feel about the blitz of FFVII cash-ins quite well.
 
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I just accidently read a spoiler. And to think I've been waiting and STILL am waiting to buy the movie when it actually does come out.

Anyway, my opinion is that Nomura is using you for money, as Lord Mune said. FFVII, IMO, is being milked for more than its worth. The game itself isn't a bad game, but it doesn't compare to the other FF's, IMO. The story was good, but vague. The characters are nothing special. (I was expecting better than what I saw) The mini-games in this game were the worst of any FF, IMO. I was excited when I first saw the Gold Saucer, but the mini-games pretty much took away from the nice feel to it.

All these spin-offs and sequels for that one game? Not worth it. I'm sure I'll enjoy Advent Children, but the rest of the spin-offs just don't seem necessary.
 

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I just accidently read a spoiler. And to think I've been waiting and STILL am waiting to buy the movie when it actually does come out.

Anyway, my opinion is that Nomura is using you for money, as Lord Mune said. FFVII, IMO, is being milked for more than its worth. The game itself isn't a bad game, but it doesn't compare to the other FF's, IMO. The story was good, but vague. The characters are nothing special. (I was expecting better than what I saw) The mini-games in this game were the worst of any FF, IMO. I was excited when I first saw the Gold Saucer, but the mini-games pretty much took away from the nice feel to it.

All these spin-offs and sequels for that one game? Not worth it. I'm sure I'll enjoy Advent Children, but the rest of the spin-offs just don't seem necessary.

I semi-agree. I think VII was the best so far, though it's major fault was that it was made so long ago, because if it was made now, it would've been a lot better. But all of the spin-offs (besides Advent Children) were entirely un-needed. And DoC looks.. bad.
 

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I just accidently read a spoiler. And to think I've been waiting and STILL am waiting to buy the movie when it actually does come out.

Anyway, my opinion is that Nomura is using you for money, as Lord Mune said. FFVII, IMO, is being milked for more than its worth. The game itself isn't a bad game, but it doesn't compare to the other FF's, IMO. The story was good, but vague. The characters are nothing special. (I was expecting better than what I saw) The mini-games in this game were the worst of any FF, IMO. I was excited when I first saw the Gold Saucer, but the mini-games pretty much took away from the nice feel to it.

All these spin-offs and sequels for that one game? Not worth it. I'm sure I'll enjoy Advent Children, but the rest of the spin-offs just don't seem necessary.
True. I'll admit FFVII's run out of steam in the past few years, and it's getting tired. Nomura should've just stopped it at AC. But I'll have to say that your accusations about FFVII's aspects as the worst in the series are a little bit off. Lots of people liked them. Why was it so popular? Because people thought it was good. (although it's overrated, it's still quite popular and a good game anyways.)
 

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MegaFlare said:
I just accidently read a spoiler. And to think I've been waiting and STILL am waiting to buy the movie when it actually does come out.

Anyway, my opinion is that Nomura is using you for money, as Lord Mune said. FFVII, IMO, is being milked for more than its worth. The game itself isn't a bad game, but it doesn't compare to the other FF's, IMO. The story was good, but vague. The characters are nothing special. (I was expecting better than what I saw) The mini-games in this game were the worst of any FF, IMO. I was excited when I first saw the Gold Saucer, but the mini-games pretty much took away from the nice feel to it.

All these spin-offs and sequels for that one game? Not worth it. I'm sure I'll enjoy Advent Children, but the rest of the spin-offs just don't seem necessary.

Let's just stop all sequels and be done with it. I have a philosophy that a majority of the time, a prequel/sequel will never be as successful as the original game. Also, I think the fact that it is only now, several years after the initial release of FF7 and all the initial sales, that all these extra add-ins are being created is proof that someone is being a bit too greedy. But that is just IMO. In addition, I'll agree with MegaFlare that there are other awesome Final Fantasy games. I actually would not mind seeing a spin-off of Final Fantasy 6 or better yet, Final Fantasy 9. But then again, I'll probably regret saying this when the time comes.
 

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Let's just stop all sequels and be done with it. I have a philosophy that a majority of the time, a prequel/sequel will never be as successful as the original game. Also, I think the fact that it is only now, several years after the initial release of FF7 and all the initial sales, that all these extra add-ins are being created is proof that someone is being a bit too greedy. But that is just IMO. In addition, I'll agree with MegaFlare that there are other awesome Final Fantasy games. I actually would not mind seeing a spin-off of Final Fantasy 6 or better yet, Final Fantasy 9. But then again, I'll probably regret saying this when the time comes.


Uh...huh...o_O
 
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