Type the KH characters (MBTI)

[In_a_Quandary]

I'm surprised there isn't already a thread made for this. (I've search the entire forum and found only one measly post [by Jelai] that mentions it.) For those of you who are unfamiliar with MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator), it's a test that assesses one's personality on the scales of Introversion-Extroversion, Sensing-iNtuition, Feeling-Thinking, and Perceiving-Judging. There are sixteen personality types in total, each a unique combination of the four letters.

Anyway, here are the types I've assigned to the characters:

Sora: ESFP
Kairi: ESFJ
Riku: ISTP (beginning of KH) => INTJ (end of KHII)

Donald: ISTJ
Goofy: ENFP
Mickey: ENFJ

Organization XIII (heavily biased towards T – especially IxTx – due to lack of hearts):
Xemnas: INTP
Xigbar: ESTP
Xaldin: INTJ
Vexen: INTJ
Lexeaus: ISTJ
Zexion: INTJ
Saïx: ISTJ
Axel: ENTP
Demyx: ENFP
Luxord: ENTP
Marluxia: INTJ
Larxene: ESTP
Roxas: ISFP
Xion: IxFJ (having difficulty with the S-N placement)

Naminé: INFP
DiZ (Ansem the Wise): ENTJ

Hayner: ESTP
Pence: ENFP
Olette: ISFJ

Characters from BBS (haven’t played this, so I’m not overly familiar with the characters)
Terra: INFP (credit goes to Ikkin for the thorough dissection of his character)
Ventus: ESFP
Aqua: ISTJ
Eraqus: ISTJ

Master Xehanort: INTJ
Vanitas: xxTx (I really dunno, he doesn’t appear to have much of a personality aside being completely evil)

What do you guys think? (And for the record, I think every type has been covered at least once... Edit: not anymore)

 

[Jelai]

What the--

when did I mention this?

It's eerie, because I was just recently contemplating what MBTI type Axel and Saix would be.

It's also talked about here and here.

By the way, I think Axel really is more likely to be ENFP than ENTP, especially when considering how he and Saix seem so opposite from each other. On the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, ENFP is the opposite type to ISTJ and vise versa. Saix seems spot-on as an ISTJ, and I'm willing to bet my money that Axel is an ENFP, especially when factoring in the personality of his Other, Lea. He seems like the type that is more likely to think of new, radical unconventional ideas than Isa (I mean just look at him; he looks like the trouble-maker type kid), more outgoing than him, more likely to be idealistic than him, more tuned in to his emotions than him, etc. While Isa is more logical, realistic, rational, etc. However, he does feel deeply. He just seems like the type that doesn't know how to verbalize it well, and rather shows it through actions instead.

Relationship

The ENFP will often seek friendship from a wide variety of types. They look for the potential in people and always look for new possibilities. They often appear to be over positive and can appear insincere. ENFPs are intensely loyal, but are often looking to make the relationship a little better or think its not quite what it could be.


The ISTJ likes to also have order in their friends and in their appearance. Hanging out with the wild and crazy isn't likely to happen. ISTJ's tend to develop strong, loyal, consistent friendships that stand the test of time. ISTJ’s may have trouble showing emotion, but within the strength of a time-tested friendship, they often find comfort. The ISTJ is a strong believer in taking responsibility. They also say the things they mean. Often they are accused of being uncaring, but they view the benchmark of commitment by actions and not words.

Also, I think Riku is more INTJ to me.

As for MX, he's more like to be an INTJ than an INTP. I mean that guy is crazy prepared with his plans (there's a reason why ISTJs are called "The Strategist" while INTPs are "The Engineer").

People with a Judging-type preference are more likely to be organized and efficient in their plans than those with a Perceiving-type preference. Here's the lowdown on Judging vs Perceiving:

Judging (J)

Judging is the preference outwardly displayed. Judging does not mean "judgmental". Judging people like order, organization and think sequentially. They like to have things planned and settled. Judging people seek closure.

Judging Characteristics

• Decisive
• Controlled
• Good at finishing
• Organized
• Structured
• Scheduled
• Quick at tasks
• Responsible
• Likes closure
• Makes plans

Judging Personality Types

• ESTJ - Overseer
• ESFJ - Supporter
• ENTJ - Chief
• ENFJ - Mentor
• ISTJ - Examiner
• ISFJ - Defender
• INTJ - Strategist
• INFJ - Confidant

Perceiving (P)

Perceiving is the preference outwardly displayed. Perceiving people are flexible, like to keep their options open and think randomly. They like to act spontaneously and are adaptable. Perceivers like to keep things open ended.

Perceiving Characteristics

• Adaptable
• Relaxed
• Disorganized
• Care-free
• Spontaneous
• Changes tracks midway
• Keeps options open
• Procrastinates
• Dislikes routine
• Flexible

Perceiving Personality Types

• ESTP - Persuader
• ESFP - Entertainer
• ENTP - Originator
• ENFP - Advocate
• ISTP - Craftsman
• ISFP - Artist
• INTP - Engineer
• INFP - Dreamer

 

[In_a_Quandary]

What the--

when did I mention this?

Approximately five months ago, according to the date of that post I found. I can root it out for you if you'd like.

It's eerie, because I was just recently contemplating what MBTI type Axel and Saix would be.

It's also talked about here and here.

By the way, I think Axel really is more likely to be ENFP than ENTP, especially when considering how he and Saix seem so opposite from each other. On the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, ENFP is the opposite type to ISTJ and vise versa. Saix seems spot-on as an ISTJ, and I'm willing to bet my money that Axel is an ENFP, especially when factoring in the personality of his Other, Lea. He seems like the type that is more likely to think of new, radical unconventional ideas than Isa (I mean just look at him; he looks like the trouble-maker type kid), more outgoing than him, more likely to be idealistic than him, more tuned in to his emotions than him, etc. While Isa is more logical, realistic, rational, etc. However, he does feel deeply. He just seems like the type that doesn't know how to verbalize it well, and rather shows it through actions instead.

I don't agree. I doubt Lea is even ENFP; he seems more ESTP to me (like Hayner). You're basing your argument on the premise that Saix and Axel behave like polar opposites, which is not at all accurate. Being on the opposite ends of the Introversion-Extroversion scale can exaggerate the differences in their personalties.

Axel is calculating, manipulative and willing to sacrifice his (non-existent) morals to achieve his goals. He's not at all loyal (I shudder to think of that guy as a friend) and shifts alliances as he sees fit. He's certainly more realistic than idealistic, and he's not comfortable discussing emotions (does the discussion about 'love' ring a bell?). He's even crapper at handling them (Roxas blows up at him for hurting Xion and he gives some cryptic half-assed response). That's ENTP for you.

Goofy and Demyx are the real ENFPs. I'm sure you can differentiate between them and Axel pretty easily.

and rather shows it through actions instead.

By the way, T's are ones who are more likely to show their feelings through actions rather than words. Take Cloud (ISTP) for instance.

And I think Riku is more like an INTJ though.

Possibly; Riku undergoes a great deal of character development between KH and KHII.

I also once read this MBTI page where Donal Duck was typed as an ESFJ.

Well, he ain't ESFJ in Kingdom Hearts. ESFJs are sociable and amiable people. Donald - is not.

 

[Jelai]

Approximately five months ago, according to the date of that post I found. I can root it out for you if you'd like.



I don't agree. I doubt Lea is even ENFP; he seems more ESTP to me (like Hayner). You're basing your argument on the premise that Saix and Axel behave like polar opposites, which is not at all accurate. Being on the opposite ends of the Introversion-Extroversion scale can exaggerate the differences in their personalties.

Axel is calculating, manipulative and willing to sacrifice his (non-existent) morals to achieve his goals. He's not at all loyal (I shudder to think of that guy as a friend) and shifts alliances as he sees fit. He's certainly more realistic than idealistic, and he's not comfortable discussing emotions (does the discussion about 'love' ring a bell?). He's even crapper at handling them (Roxas blows up at him for hurting Xion and he gives some cryptic half-assed response). That's ENTP for you.

Goofy and Demyx are the real ENFPs. I'm sure you can differentiate between them and Axel pretty easily.



By the way, T's are ones who are more likely to show their feelings through actions rather than words. Take Cloud (ISTP) for instance.



Possibly; Riku undergoes a great deal of character development between KH and KHII.



Well, he ain't ESFJ in Kingdom Hearts. ESFJs are sociable and amiable people. Donald - is not.

Alright, your argument for Axel being ENTP seems reasonable. But my reason for typing mainly Lea as an ENFP rather than the other ExxPs is because of how he interacted with Ventus, and especially in how he seems to want everyone he comes across to befriend him and remember him.

Yeah, I forgot to add the "rather in words" part in the whole "Thinkers are also likely to show their feelings through actions rather than words." I knew was forgetting something...

*shrug* That's what the MBTI page thing said, but I didn't agree with how that person typed Donald either.

And sure thing, I'd like to see the post where I posted about the MBTI back then lol.

 

[In_a_Quandary]

Alright, your argument for Axel being ENTP seems reasonable. But my reason for typing mainly Lea as an ENFP rather than the other ExxPs is because of how he interacted with Ventus, and especially in how he seems to want everyone he comes across to befriend him and remember him.

Well, I've only watched that scene (on Youtube) once, having never played BBS myself. So I'm not in the best position to make an accurate assessment of Lea's character.

*shrug* That's what the MBTI page thing said, but I didn't agree with how that person typed Donald either.

Could you please show me the link? I wanna see their reasoning (and rip it to shreds XD).

And sure thing, I'd like to see the post where I posted about the MBTI back then lol.

Here it is:

Psychology, Sociology, Anthropology.

especially the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. I'm a sucker for this psychology personality type test. I know my MBTI type: It's INFP. And if I had to guess some KH character's personality types, I would guess...

Sora: ESFJ or ESFP
Riku: INTJ
Terra: INTJ
Aqua: ISFJ

some geeky/nerdy pop culture/subcultures get my brain churning as well, such as Steampunk and speculative fiction.

...Are we the only two on the entire forum who are interested in both MBTI and KH? And do you agree (or disagree) with the rest of the type assignments?

 

[Ikkin]

...why does Terra keep getting called a T? The entire game would fall apart if he wasn't an F. XD;

He's definitely more of an INFP than anything else to me. *will explain more later*

 

[In_a_Quandary]

...why does Terra keep getting called a T? The entire game would fall apart if he wasn't an F. XD;

He's definitely more of an INFP than anything else to me. *will explain more later*

Care to elaborate? As I have mentioned before, I'm not overly familiar with the BBS lot. I am, however, familiar with INFPs, and I don't really see the resemblance.

 

[Fallen Prince]

^^ I agree. I'm sitting here thinking "what?!?!"

 

[Key]

Whoa, this is cool. I remember taking this test my freshman year, i think i was an INFP, if i remember correctly... though the N and the F were pretty close.

*looks at the list* Oh, the irony. Namine's an INFP too. I also happen to be an artist. Hahaha....

Anyways, looking at your list, i think you're pretty close with all of these, so good job I never thought of applying all of these traits to the KH characters, but this is pretty cool.

wait explain this a little better because i dont understand it that much

The letters assigned to characters are representative of certain personality traits, and the combination of the 4 letters is their basic personality. Each letter stands of one aspect of their personality, for example, if you have an "E" you're an extrovert, and an "I" means you're an introvert. Using mine as an example, I would be categorized as a "Introversion-Intuition-Feeling-Percieving" type, AKA, a "Dreamer," according to Jelai's list.

 

[Key]

wat are you guys talking about

I just explained it~

 

[Smile]

I think I'm about the only person who'd give Sora an I. Yes, he's outgoing and happy-go-lucky most of the time but it's been established nicely that he bottles a LOT up and only let out how he really feels when he's basically about to break or was already broken. :v

 

[In_a_Quandary]

Whoa, this is cool. I remember taking this test my freshman year, i think i was an INFP, if i remember correctly... though the N and the F were pretty close.

*looks at the list* Oh, the irony. Namine's an INFP too. I also happen to be an artist. Hahaha....

A good majority of (visual) artists are either ISFP or INFP. The difference between their type of art? ISFP art tends to be more sensuous, and INFP art, more metaphorical and abstract.

Professional instrumentalists (pianist, violinist, harpist): ISFP

Writers: INFx. Generally INxx types.

Namine fits very well into the INFP niche. She's highly introverted, emotionally sensitive, and has a tendency to 'know' things, which is strongly indicative of iNtuition. One can also debate that she is INFJ (INFP and INFJ are superficially similar) on this premise, save for the fact that her dominant and auxiliary functions appear to be Introverted Feeling (Fi) - Extraverted iNtuition (Ne) rather than Introverted iNtuition (Ni) - Extraverted Feeling (Fe). (INFPs have Fi-Ne as their strongest functions; INFJs, Ni-Fe.)

INFP:

Introverted Feeling function allows a person to know what they value. It is the ability to see through others and know what they are really like as if they had an internal radar. When it identifies a person with similar values there is a desire to connect.

Extraverted Intuition function allows a person to see different path or ways. When information comes in, different possibilities are thought of, realizing that there is always another way of looking at things.

INFJ:

Introverted Intuition function allows a person to have a sense about the future. It is the ability to grasp and get a sense of a pattern or plan. Information that is usually hard to understand and dissect is easily processed through Introverted Intuition.

Extraverted Feeling function allows a person to adjust their behavior to the needs of others. Is it the ability to relate and the desire to connect with others with warmth and consideration. It draws others out and responds to expressed or unexpressed needs.

...And nobody gets what I'm saying.

I think I'm about the only person who'd give Sora an I. Yes, he's outgoing and happy-go-lucky most of the time but it's been established nicely that he bottles a LOT up and only let out how he really feels when he's basically about to break or was already broken. :v

You're right; you'd be the only person.

Being Extroverted does not necessarily mean that you'd regurgitate your thoughts/feelings at every given opportunity. Axel is ENTP, and I most assuredly do not see him divulging his motives to just anyone (if at all).

The Briggs-Myers definition of Extroversion is that one gains energy from the external environment (socializing with people), while Introversion means that one gains energy from the internal environment (thinking things through alone). I think you can infer from that Sora is clearly, indisputably Extroverted.

 

[Key]

...And nobody gets what I'm saying.

No, i understand what you're talking about Haha, the way you say it, Namine and I must be personality twins. XD

Out of curiosity, where are you finding all this info? o.o can i have a link to whatever website you're using?

 

[In_a_Quandary]

No, i understand what you're talking about Haha, the way you say it, Namine and I must be personality twins. XD

Out of curiosity, where are you finding all this info? o.o can i have a link to whatever website you're using?

You can find this info anywhere on Google. Just type in 'MBTI personality types', or a particular function like 'Introverted Feeling', or simply 'INFP'. It'd come up.

 

[Ikkin]

Care to elaborate? As I have mentioned before, I'm not overly familiar with the BBS lot. I am, however, familiar with INFPs, and I don't really see the resemblance.

Terra's personality is pretty much the biggest bait-and-switch in the series, so it's really hard to get a handle on him from promotional media. Also, the only reason I said he was an INFP was because most of the other types showed more non-Terra-ish traits on my initial reading of the typings.

Even with more thought put into it, though, I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out what he really should be.

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What I can say for sure is that his most important traits (and the only two that I'm positive about my assignment for) are Introversion and Feeling.

I don't think anyone would argue that Terra's not an Introvert. It's really quite clear that, while he's capable of being friendly and outgoing around the people he cares about, he tends to keep to himself around people he doesn't know and values spending time alone. His main focus is his own problems, and he does his best to try to solve them himself instead of seeking out others' assistance and comfort.

Terra's preference for Feeling might be a bit more controversial, but I think it's no less pronounced. He's very impulsive and acts immediately on his emotions instead of thinking things through logically. He's far too passionate to be impartial the majority of the time, and cares too deeply about his friends to act rationally if they're threatened.

It's the other two traits that make it more difficult to tell what type he is, though I'll share the initial impressions that led me to that judgement.

The feeling that I had at first was that, on the Intuitive/Sensing axis, he came off as Intuitive, if only because he's rather oblivious to things that should be obvious if he was actually paying attention to the information that his senses provided.

And, if he's Introverted, Intuitive, and Feeling, he basically has to be Perceiving rather than Judging, because INFJs are suspicious and not easily led, while Terra is about as naive and easily manipulated as they come. He has a really strong tendency to assume the best of everyone, regardless of all evidence to the contrary, to the point where Master Xehanort is able to use his creation of Vanitas to gain pity from Terra by claiming it was an accident.

But now, after reading twenty different versions of the personality types... I'm just not sure what to consider him. Whichever category I try to fit him in, there tends to be elements that strongly conflict with his character. I guess I'll just list out what I think are the most important elements of his personality, so someone who understands this better than I do can come up with something.

a) He's a perfectionist who's highly driven to succeed, to the point of obsession because
b) He absolutely cannot stand failure or criticism. If he messes up, he considers it proof that he's intrinsically flawed rather than realizing it's a simple mistake. He's more inclined to blame himself excessively than to shift the blame to someone else.
c) He follows the same traditionalist (SJ?) value system that Master Eraqus and Aqua do, but shows more willingness to put it aside if it's getting in the way of doing the right thing.
d) He's very idealistic and trusting, assuming good intentions on the part of anyone he meets until he's forced to accept that's not the case.
e) He tends to strongly dislike conflict with those he cares about, and tends towards avoidant behavior like giving the cold shoulder and leaving rather than arguing. If he's forced to fight, as when he fought Master Eraqus to save Ven, he's deeply pained by his own behavior and considers himself in the wrong even if he's not.
f) He's really good with children, and tends to be protective and kind to them, quickly taking the big brother role.

Also, Aqua's totally an ISTJ (along with Master Eraqus), not an ISFJ.

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While she does have a strong emotional side, and the T-F dimension is the one that's the most debatable, her method of dealing with the emotions of others is much more in line with the ISTJ type than the ISFJ type.

Honestly, she's pretty bad at figuring out how to act when faced with a friend in emotional distress. She's unsure of what to say to Terra after he fails the Mark of Mastery exam, attempts to avoid the subject when she meets him again at the Castle of Dreams, writes off Ven's worry about Terra in Enchanted Dominion, bluntly states that she thinks Terra messed up and acts harshly towards Ven in telling him to go home in Radiant Garden, gives Terra a warning rather than comfort and lets him step forward to comfort Ven first at the Keyblade Graveyard, and let Terra do all the talking to the amnesiac Ven in the flashback to Ven's arrival.

If the two conflict, she'll always choose propriety over kindness, which really wouldn't make sense for an ISFJ, but fits the ISTJ to a T (no pun intended). I actually suspect that a good author with no knowledge of the series who was told she's an ISTJ could write her more in character than the majority of Aqua's fanfic depictions.

 

[In_a_Quandary]

First of all, I'd like to commend you on your thorough analysis of both Terra and Aqua. You did a good job.

Terra's personality is pretty much the biggest bait-and-switch in the series, so it's really hard to get a handle on him from promotional media. Also, the only reason I said he was an INFP was because most of the other types showed more non-Terra-ish traits on my initial reading of the typings.

Even with more thought put into it, though, I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out what he really should be.

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What I can say for sure is that his most important traits (and the only two that I'm positive about my assignment for) are Introversion and Feeling.

I don't think anyone would argue that Terra's not an Introvert. It's really quite clear that, while he's capable of being friendly and outgoing around the people he cares about, he tends to keep to himself around people he doesn't know and values spending time alone. His main focus is his own problems, and he does his best to try to solve them himself instead of seeking out others' assistance and comfort.

Terra's preference for Feeling might be a bit more controversial, but I think it's no less pronounced. He's very impulsive and acts immediately on his emotions instead of thinking things through logically. He's far too passionate to be impartial the majority of the time, and cares too deeply about his friends to act rationally if they're threatened.

It's the other two traits that make it more difficult to tell what type he is, though I'll share the initial impressions that led me to that judgement.

The feeling that I had at first was that, on the Intuitive/Sensing axis, he came off as Intuitive, if only because he's rather oblivious to things that should be obvious if he was actually paying attention to the information that his senses provided.

And, if he's Introverted, Intuitive, and Feeling, he basically has to be Perceiving rather than Judging, because INFJs are suspicious and not easily led, while Terra is about as naive and easily manipulated as they come. He has a really strong tendency to assume the best of everyone, regardless of all evidence to the contrary, to the point where Master Xehanort is able to use his creation of Vanitas to gain pity from Terra by claiming it was an accident.

But now, after reading twenty different versions of the personality types... I'm just not sure what to consider him. Whichever category I try to fit him in, there tends to be elements that strongly conflict with his character. I guess I'll just list out what I think are the most important elements of his personality, so someone who understands this better than I do can come up with something.

a) He's a perfectionist who's highly driven to succeed, to the point of obsession because
b) He absolutely cannot stand failure or criticism. If he messes up, he considers it proof that he's intrinsically flawed rather than realizing it's a simple mistake. He's more inclined to blame himself excessively than to shift the blame to someone else.
c) He follows the same traditionalist (SJ?) value system that Master Eraqus and Aqua do, but shows more willingness to put it aside if it's getting in the way of doing the right thing.
d) He's very idealistic and trusting, assuming good intentions on the part of anyone he meets until he's forced to accept that's not the case.
e) He tends to strongly dislike conflict with those he cares about, and tends towards avoidant behavior like giving the cold shoulder and leaving rather than arguing. If he's forced to fight, as when he fought Master Eraqus to save Ven, he's deeply pained by his own behavior and considers himself in the wrong even if he's not.
f) He's really good with children, and tends to be protective and kind to them, quickly taking the big brother role.

All those points you have raised also pertain to the ISFP personality type. We have already established that he is IxxP. (Though I know for certain that he isn't INTP.) Personally, I am not inclined to believe him INFP because he is very gullible, and all the INFPs I have known are anything but. Of course, it can be a serious case of self-delusion, which seems to be a weakness of INFPs... Still, I'd prefer a stronger argument than his apparent obliviousness to the physical environment to substantiate his position on the S-N axis.

Also, Aqua's totally an ISTJ (along with Master Eraqus), not an ISFJ.

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While she does have a strong emotional side, and the T-F dimension is the one that's the most debatable, her method of dealing with the emotions of others is much more in line with the ISTJ type than the ISFJ type.

Honestly, she's pretty bad at figuring out how to act when faced with a friend in emotional distress. She's unsure of what to say to Terra after he fails the Mark of Mastery exam, attempts to avoid the subject when she meets him again at the Castle of Dreams, writes off Ven's worry about Terra in Enchanted Dominion, bluntly states that she thinks Terra messed up and acts harshly towards Ven in telling him to go home in Radiant Garden, gives Terra a warning rather than comfort and lets him step forward to comfort Ven first at the Keyblade Graveyard, and let Terra do all the talking to the amnesiac Ven in the flashback to Ven's arrival.

If the two conflict, she'll always choose propriety over kindness, which really wouldn't make sense for an ISFJ, but fits the ISTJ to a T (no pun intended). I actually suspect that a good author with no knowledge of the series who was told she's an ISTJ could write her more in character than the majority of Aqua's fanfic depictions.

I won't argue this, because I had also considered that she is more T than F. Or perhaps that she is quite balanced on the T-F scale, with a slight inclination towards T. I will change her and Eraqus' type assignments accordingly.

Thank you for your input.

 

[Jelai]

Oh wow, this thread sure ballooned up pretty quickly.

I'll try my best to reply to everyone, so, uhhmm...

@ In_a_Quandary: I feel like I'm being stalked lol. But I'm pretty sure there's more out there that are interested in both MBTI and KH. Mind you, I was even thinking about using some Jungian typology along with the rest of Jungian literary criticism in this current KH fan fiction I'm writing lolz. I've been studying up on Jungian concepts a lot lately.

....Here's the link where Donald Duck is listed under 'ESFJ':
ESFJ Profile

As for the rest of your typing, well let's see...

I'm not sure about Xemnas. I think he's either ENTJ or INTP...ehh personally, I'll peg him as xNTx for now.

I find it amusing how nearly all of the apprentices are NTs though, especially INTJ. /Stereotypical scientists types lolz

Man, DiZ may as well be my father because he certainly does act like my father at times (whom is also ENTJ) 8|. I sometimes butt heads with my father at times as well when it comes to dealing with his criticism and sarcasm, due to me being an INFP. Oh lolz I'm Naminé while my dad is DiZ. This is brilliant.

Vanitas does seem quite difficult to type. I'll just say that he's the shadow/unhealthy type of....well, one of the 16 personality types lol.

The rest seem quite accurate. However, you did forget one type...

ESTJ. No Kingdom Hearts characters are ESTJ?

By the way, I do both visual art and piano. XP However, with my art, I have little patience for detail. When I draw....IDK, I guess it tends to be more along the lines of Minamalism, Dadaism, Pop Art, Art Installation, etc. Yeah, pretty much more about concepts than the aesthetics of the art. I get so enamored by artists who are able to take their time to draw all those meticulous little details found in the ruffles of clothing or to draw each and every single window of a city scape in a precise manner, etc. Dx


@ KeyOfDestiny1313: about INFPs and art, see above lol. ^


@ Ikkin: Good job! I enjoyed reading your analyses.

As for Terra's typing...hmm, well:

e) He tends to strongly dislike conflict with those he cares about, and tends towards avoidant behavior like giving the cold shoulder and leaving rather than arguing. If he's forced to fight, as when he fought Master Eraqus to save Ven, he's deeply pained by his own behavior and considers himself in the wrong even if he's not.

That sounds a lot like me. In fact, my ENTJ father recently got infuriated at me for leaving him and my ISTJ mom in the middle of their criticism. I couldn't stand how he and my mom just keep on criticizing me every time I make a mistake as I can only stand harsh criticism to a certain threshold. Once it starts to get to me too personally, I just go away because I can't stand to sit there any longer and deal with these blows on me. So my dad got mad at me for walking upstairs in the middle of his criticism, and found it rude that I did such an action. I wish I could have told him as to why I left him, but I couldn't bring myself to do it because he might just get even angrier and spit out even more criticisms.

so I'm guessing that Terra's dominant function is Fi. Well, there's only two personality types whose dominant function is Fi: ISFP and INFP.

ISFP: Fi, Se, Ni, Te
INFP: Fi, Ne, Si, Te

So I'm guessing that Terra is IxFP for now.

 

[In_a_Quandary]

@ In_a_Quandary: I feel like I'm being stalked lol.

Why should you get that impression?

....Here's the link where Donald Duck is listed under 'ESFJ':
ESFJ Profile

Thanks. (Edit: Looked it up. They didn't provide a justification. *shrugs*)

I'm not sure about Xemnas. I think he's either ENTJ or INTP...ehh personally, I'll peg him as xNTx for now.

INTP. Dominant function appears to be Ti, not Te. I wouldn't call letting the Key Bearer run around freely a carefully executed plan. He seems to be content to let the finer nuances of his overall plan fall to the wayside, as long as the primary objective is accomplished. It's almost... sloppy of him. And the lack of meticulousness is most assuredly not a J-trait.

Introverted thinking function allows a person to categorize and analyze data. It is the ability to identify inconsistencies, know how things work and problem-solve.

His endless soliloquies about the artificial Kingdom Hearts should be indication enough of this.

Extraverted thinking function allows a person to organize and categorize things, thoughts or arguments. It is the ability to see the logical consequences of actions. It follows sequence and organization.

To use a couple of his quotes:

Xemnas: Axel, Roxas, and Xion will play the roles Kingdom hearts has chosen for them.

Xemnas: Take steps? How can you not see how perfect this is? Xion is marching right into the arms of destiny. The only steps we need take are two: watch... and wait.

I find it amusing how nearly all of the apprentices are NTs though, especially INTJ. /Stereotypical scientists types lolz

Almost everyone in the Org is NT, really. Nomura wasn't terribly creative with their personality designs, though I suppose he's got limited choices considering he's already eliminated half the available types (Fs) on the precept that Nobodies lack hearts.

Vanitas does seem quite difficult to type. I'll just say that he's the shadow/unhealthy type of....well, one of the 16 personality types lol.

Or all of them...

The rest seem quite accurate. However, you did forget one type...

ESTJ. No Kingdom Hearts characters are ESTJ?

Unfortunately, it doesn't appear so. If Donald were a little more extroverted, though...

By the way, I do both visual art and piano. XP However, with my art, I have little patience for detail. When I draw....IDK, I guess it tends to be more along the lines of Minamalism, Dadaism, Pop Art, Art Installation, etc. Yeah, pretty much more about concepts than the aesthetics of the art. I get so enamored by artists who are able to take their time to draw all those meticulous little details found in the ruffles of clothing or to draw each and every single window of a city scape in a precise manner, etc. Dx

I also do both visual art (you reviewed my RokuShi fanart, remember?) and piano (not professionally, of course). And I also write (as a hobby, again). But I am neither ISFP nor INFP.

On the whole, ISFPs seem keener on the aesthetics of art - that includes details - than INFPs, yes.

As for Terra's typing...hmm, well:

That sounds a lot like me. In fact, my ENTJ father recently got infuriated at me for leaving him and my ISTJ mom in the middle of their criticism. I couldn't stand how he and my mom just keep on criticizing me every time I make a mistake as I can only stand harsh criticism to a certain threshold. Once it starts to get to me too personally, I just go away because I can't stand to sit there any longer and deal with these blows on me. So my dad got mad at me for walking upstairs in the middle of his criticism, and found it rude that I did such an action. I wish I could have told him as to why I left him, but I couldn't bring myself to do it because he might just get even angrier and spit out even more criticisms.

so I'm guessing that Terra's dominant function is Fi. Well, there's only two personality types whose dominant function is Fi: ISFP and INFP.

ISFP: Fi, Se, Ni, Te
INFP: Fi, Ne, Si, Te

So I'm guessing that Terra is IxFP for now.

I guess.

 

[Ikkin]

First of all, I'd like to commend you on your thorough analysis of both Terra and Aqua. You did a good job.

Thanks. ^_^

All those points you have raised also pertain to the ISFP personality type. We have already established that he is IxxP. (Though I know for certain that he isn't INTP.) Personally, I am not inclined to believe him INFP because he is very gullible, and all the INFPs I have known are anything but. Of course, it can be a serious case of self-delusion, which seems to be a weakness of INFPs... Still, I'd prefer a stronger argument than his apparent obliviousness to the physical environment to substantiate his position on the S-N axis.

...gah, I knew I forgot something important in that giant textwall of a post.

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The other reason why I typed Terra as N over S is because of his tendency to get visions. xD

When he sees Sleeping Beauty lying on her bed after being Maleficent's magic forces him to steal her heart, he imagines Ven in her place. When he's talking to Master Xehanort about Vanitas, he sees flashes of scenes from the end battle, with Ven and Aqua being in danger. When he meets Riku on Destiny Islands, he imagines him as a young Master Xehanort, and then as his 16-year-old self.

And, while Nomura said that he's not really capable of seeing the future, he definitely reacts to those visions, so he must be getting some kind of similar impression from them.

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Thinking about it some more, the INFP's functions fit Terra better than the ISFP's, too.

INFP is Fi, Ne, Si, Te, while ISFP is Fi, Se, Ni, Te. The Fi and Te functions are the same for both, so the Ne/Ni and Se/Si preferences would help determine what he is.

Se vs. Si is the most obvious to me. Si, from my understanding, is what gives ISTPs like Aqua and Eraqus their focus on doing things right, and Terra's self-criticism seems like it could be an outgrowth of that (combining with his powerful Fi tendency to make him feel completely worthless when he can't measure up). It's way stronger than it should be, considering Si is a tertiary function, but I could imagine that being a result of him being raised as a part of a strict SJ institution by a strict ISTJ teacher with a strict ISTJ as a fellow student.

Ne vs. Ni is much less obvious, because his N function is much weaker than it should be. Again, I suspect this is a result of his upbringing - ISTJs have Ne as their inferior function and tend to have trouble using it in a constructive way, so Terra might not have had much of an opportunity to develop Intuition as an auxiliary function. If Terra's weakened N function is extroverted, his general difficulty in understanding what's going on around him and tendency to jump to conclusions based on limited evidence would make a lot of sense.

So, I guess my final analysis of Terra is this: he's an INFP whose development got kind of topsy-turvy due to excessive influence by SJs.

I won't argue this, because I had also considered that she is more T than F. Or perhaps that she is quite balanced on the T-F scale, with a slight inclination towards T. I will change her and Eraqus' type assignments accordingly.

Thank you for your input.

You're welcome. ^_^

Yeah, Aqua does seem to be more balanced on the T-F scale than, say, Eraqus is. It's mostly the ordering of functions that makes me think she's ISTJ rather than ISFJ - Fe is supposed to make it harder for an ISFJ to boldly state opinions, and Ti makes it difficult for the ISFJ to make objective judgements about others, which just doesn't fit Aqua, who's very blunt and judgmental. Te, on the other hand, seems consistent with her high level of formality, and Fi with her ability to set her feelings aside in emotionally charged situations.

 

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The other reason why I typed Terra as N over S is because of his tendency to get visions. xD

When he sees Sleeping Beauty lying on her bed after being Maleficent's magic forces him to steal her heart, he imagines Ven in her place. When he's talking to Master Xehanort about Vanitas, he sees flashes of scenes from the end battle, with Ven and Aqua being in danger. When he meets Riku on Destiny Islands, he imagines him as a young Master Xehanort, and then as his 16-year-old self.

And, while Nomura said that he's not really capable of seeing the future, he definitely reacts to those visions, so he must be getting some kind of similar impression from them.

The ability to 'see into the future' is representative of Ni rather than Ne. ISFPs have Ni as their tertiary function. Perhaps it is especially well-developed in Terra's case, so much so that it overrides - or serves as a substitute to - the (underdeveloped) auxiliary Se.

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Thinking about it some more, the INFP's functions fit Terra better than the ISFP's, too.

INFP is Fi, Ne, Si, Te, while ISFP is Fi, Se, Ni, Te. The Fi and Te functions are the same for both, so the Ne/Ni and Se/Si preferences would help determine what he is.

Se vs. Si is the most obvious to me. Si, from my understanding, is what gives ISTPs like Aqua and Eraqus their focus on doing things right, and Terra's self-criticism seems like it could be an outgrowth of that (combining with his powerful Fi tendency to make him feel completely worthless when he can't measure up). It's way stronger than it should be, considering Si is a tertiary function, but I could imagine that being a result of him being raised as a part of a strict SJ institution by a strict ISTJ teacher with a strict ISTJ as a fellow student.

Self-criticism/perfectionism is a product of Fi rather than Si.

Introverted Sensing function allows a person to remember data in detail and be able to compare it to the current data. It is the ability to link present experiences to past experiences in search for a connection.

Si is what makes SJs so adamant about following tradition and propriety. ...And you'd see many instances of Terra abandoning tradition and 'going his own way'. I don't see how your argument substantiates a well-developed Si on Terra's part.

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Ne vs. Ni is much less obvious, because his N function is much weaker than it should be. Again, I suspect this is a result of his upbringing - ISTJs have Ne as their inferior function and tend to have trouble using it in a constructive way, so Terra might not have had much of an opportunity to develop Intuition as an auxiliary function. If Terra's weakened N function is extroverted, his general difficulty in understanding what's going on around him and tendency to jump to conclusions based on limited evidence would make a lot of sense.

Once again, this is representative of Ni rather than Ne. Ne is brainstorming possibilities; Ni is following an (intangible and often linear) thread into the future.

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So, I guess my final analysis of Terra is this: he's an INFP whose development got kind of topsy-turvy due to excessive influence by SJs.

I maintain the argument that Terra is ISFP - whose development got kind of topsy-turvy due to excessive influence by SJs. XD