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Unbirths -- The Opposite of Nobodies



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And you're theory, christ, you think the process of making a nobody is complicated and strange? What have you been smoking?[/COLOR]

A walking contradiction is stranger than something that hates life but is forced to live it anyway.

So then how does one become an Unbirth?

The point of my theory has nothing to do with becoming an Unbirth.

If they wanted to die so bad... couldn't they just OD or something? =/ And why even fight back against TAV?

READ THE THREAD! D:<

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Maybe the reason why they are fighting the Keyblade warriors rather than letting them kill them is because they wanna go down with a fight, kinda like how the lingering spirit wanted to be erased, but still fought you.
I dunno, just putting something out there to support the original topic.
 

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I think I understand what he is trying to say. The unbirth's for some reason wish to no longer exist, thus the name unbirth. The keyblade has the power to whipe the unbirth's from existence. So they look for keyblade weilders. For some reason the unbirth's can't control themselves and they attack the keyblade weilders wildly. Somehow the unbirths are completely whiped from existence and thus why they do not exist in KH1. At least I think thats what he is trying to say.
 
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Oh so basically you're saying it doesn't matter how they become Unbirths, just that the minute they do become them, they become suicidal? Yeah... >.<
 

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Um, they did. It was basically your theory summed up.
I hate your posts... they're messed up, I can't delete just one of them it deletes both of them. >.<

your not alone. I hate my own posts. it always double posts and I cant control it. I heard from someone that it might be forum lag. I dont know what that is because i'm new.
 

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Sora:
You're Nobodies! You don't even exist!
Oh, not so true Sora. If they didn't exist, they could not be there. Sora is kinda stupid.
Or maybe he was being as cryptic as Yen Sid
Yen Sid
You see, Nobodies do not truely exist at all
At all? What?
This is just me being off topic. I apologize for this, if nessesary.

your not alone. I hate my own posts. I cant control the double posting. I heard it might be forum lag but i dont know what that is because i'm new.
Whats weirder, is that earlier I posted onto another thread, ond it was normal for about 30 minutes, then it randomly changed into a double post by itself o_O
This happened to me once. No one made a deal about it, but that's cuz I apologized for it right away. Stupid Internet Explorer!:cursing:
EDIT: again with this! UGH double post crap
 
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I think I understand what he is trying to say. The unbirth's for some reason wish to no longer exist, thus the name unbirth. The keyblade has the power to whipe the unbirth's from existence. So they look for keyblade weilders. For some reason the unbirth's can't control themselves and they attack the keyblade weilders wildly. Somehow the unbirths are completely whiped from existence and thus why they do not exist in KH1. At least I think thats what he is trying to say.

Thank you! You win the internet!

Oh so basically you're saying it doesn't matter how they become Unbirths, just that the minute they do become them, they become suicidal? Yeah... >.<

No, I'm saying that for all intents and purposes of this thread, how they become Unbirths does not matter. This is a theory on where they might get their name from.

I did read your dumb thread.
And it doesn't make any sense.

Then you're beyond all help.
 
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You would think they would get their name from HOW they were made and the state of their existence. =/
 

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You would think they would get their name from HOW they were made and the state of their existence. =/
Which this is the case for Nobodies and Heartless.
Heartless-Ones without hearts
Nobodies-Ones without existence
Unbirths-UNKNOWN (for sure, anyway)
 

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Heartless is the opposite Qarx, they have hearts but are only consumed by darkness, the rest if fine.
Sorry if that seemed like unnecessary nitpicking :v
 

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You would think they would get their name from HOW they were made and the state of their existence. =/

Heartless have hearts (unless they're Pureblood) and Nobodies have bodies. Think before you type.
 
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Nobodies are named because of the state of their existence.
Heartless were named after Purebloods.
 

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Heartless have hearts (unless they're Pureblood) and Nobodies have bodies. Think before you type.

No, even the purebloods have hearts. Artificial heartless are made by machines that simulate the same process the purebloods go through. They both have hearts, you think before you post.

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Do the innocent bystanders who become Heartless seek to consume hearts before they become Heartless? I'd say no. Whatever goal the Unbirths have I seriously doubt it would be the same as a normal person's.

Owaz suggests that the Unbirths are entities that wish to become Nothing, not suicidal people who became deformed. It is merely a theory of what the Unbirths ultimate goal is, not how they came to be, nor what they were before they became Unbirths, if they were, in fact, anything before becoming Unbirths.

And I know some bright spark out there is going to insist that "becoming Nothing" and suicide are the same thing. In the context I KH I suggest that it's not the same, but I'm too tired to explain so I'm out.
 

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No, even the purebloods have hearts. Artificial heartless are made by machines that simulate the same process the purebloods go through. They both have hearts, you think before you post.

Name one Pureblooded Heartless that expelled a heart upon its destruction. I'll give you five minutes.
 
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Do the innocent bystanders who become Heartless seek to consume hearts before they become Heartless? I'd say no. Whatever goal the Unbirths have I seriously doubt it would be the same as a normal person's.

Owaz suggests that the Unbirths are entities that wish to become Nothing, not suicidal people who became deformed. It is merely a theory of what the Unbirths ultimate goal is, not how they came to be, nor what they were before they became Unbirths, if they were, in fact, anything before becoming Unbirths.

And I know some bright spark out there is going to insist that "becoming Nothing" and suicide are the same thing. In the context I KH I suggest that it's not the same, but I'm too tired to explain so I'm out.
We kind of got that after he clarified what his theory was about specifically. =/

Name one Pureblooded Heartless that expelled a heart upon its destruction. I'll give you five minutes.
Oh boy. You are one cocky individual.
 

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Heartless is the opposite Qarx, they have hearts but are only consumed by darkness, the rest if fine.
Sorry if that seemed like unnecessary nitpicking :v
Yeah, that's fine.
and yes, according to the Ansem Reports, he did indeed create a machine that simulates the process of a heart turning to Darkness (or whatever) this machine, supossedly, appeared in KH2 and brought out the Heartless in Tron's world. Why this is different I do not know.
Also, were EVERY Heartless with the crest artificial? There's a lot... hardly any without it.
 
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