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SuperFreakyz

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Doesn't Master Eraqus have a nobody? Or is it that nobodies weren't formed yet?
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No, Nobodies were around, they just hadn't formed and rissen to power because they requite a strongly willed heart.
 

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No, Nobodies were around, they just hadn't formed and rissen to power because they requite a strongly willed heart.

No, they weren't. You need a Heartless to make a Nobody, and the Heartless only existed naturally in the Realm of Darkness, not in the Realm of Light.

And besides, the only way a Heartless is created is if a heart is lost to the darkness, which Eraqus's heart was not, it went into Terra at the last moment to sleep. Even if it didn't, no Heartless, and therefore no Nobody, would have been made, for his heart would have most likely simply passed on as all hearts do at "death" to go rejoin Kingdom Hearts and wait to be born again.
 

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Master X summoned heartless to have Ven fight off, so they did exist in the RoLight, Master X pwned Master E with darkness but instead of falling he barged into Terra's body, like you said. So technically Master E should have a Heartless/incomplete Nobody flying around somewhere.
 

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Did you see that trailer for Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix? I think that new armored guy is Master Eraqus
 

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It's actually the Mysterious Figure in his armor form.

No...no it is not. It'd be cool if you could not go lying to people. That'd be great. And just because Eraqus was "killed" by a blast of dark power doesn't mean his heart fell to darkness (mostly because it went into Terra, but it wouldn't have anyways.) And yes, Xehanort summoned some Neoshadows, but Heartless didn't exist on as massive of a scale as they do now. Not enough to steal people's hearts.

So yet again, no, Eraqus does not have a Heartless or a Nobody.
 

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Heartless still existed though.

Exist is exist as is the existence. Duh. He most likely has an incomplete Nobody to say the least, but all will be answered in KHBBsFinalMix secret movie and when that comes out and I actually turn up to be right then you sir shall kiss ma arse. Good day.

+ It was sarcasm, but hey, you never know. He has all the moves of Terra/Aqua/Ven and a little more. So who's the only person that can teach them moves anyways... Oh right their master. : O
 

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Heartless still existed though.

Exist is exist as is the existence. Duh. He most likely has an incomplete Nobody to say the least, but all will be answered in KHBBsFinalMix secret movie and when that comes out and I actually turn up to be right then you sir shall kiss ma arse. Good day.

+ It was sarcasm, but hey, you never know. He has all the moves of Terra/Aqua/Ven and a little more. So who's the only person that can teach them moves anyways... Oh right their master. : O

You really need to get your facts right before posting lies that people will believe. It is still unknown as to who the MF is, but the AG (Armoured Guy) is most likely to be Eraqus, because he has the same stance and has the same 'chain' attack thingy, as you can see in the video, and when ME tries to attack Ventus.
 

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Doesn't Master Eraqus have a nobody? Or is it that nobodies weren't formed yet?
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Nobodies are created when strong hearted people lose their hearts to the darkness and become Heartless. Like we see with Eraqus, that wasn't the case. At this point, Heartless only existed in the Realm of Darkness, not the Realm of Light.

Master X summoned heartless to have Ven fight off, so they did exist in the RoLight, Master X pwned Master E with darkness but instead of falling he barged into Terra's body, like you said. So technically Master E should have a Heartless/incomplete Nobody flying around somewhere.

Keyword: summoned, but from the Realm of Darkness. And from the looks of it, it's more like Eraqus was killed with a blast of darkness. It happened externally, not internally. So no, he doesn't have a Heartless, but perhaps, like with Master Xehanort, something was created with the body and soul he left behind.

Did you see that trailer for Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix? I think that new armored guy is Master Eraqus

Yes, and it's obvious that it is, maybe not Eraqus himself, but it could also be his sentiment. Anyways, it was pretty clear that the new armored boss has something to do with Eraqus.

It's actually the Mysterious Figure in his armor form.

I feel bad for all the good trolls out there, watching you tarnish their name. Good day to you sir.
 

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Damn, you catch on quick. D:
Well, I've been fed enough for one day.
 

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There's one thing you're forgetting about, regarding the possibility of Master Eraqus having a Nobody:

The soul has to be there in order for a Nobody to be created.

As far as we can tell, Master Xehanort didn't do anything in particular to Master Eraqus' heart. He just killed him outright. Which means that, according to the Secret Ansem Reports, Master Eraqus' soul should have left his body at the moment he died.

If there's no soul, there's nothing to animate the body, so it wouldn't make sense for him to have a Nobody.

(...this whole thing would be a lot easier if they could have just made a less ambiguous death scene. Honestly, Nomura, what do you mean by "it was necessary to avoid showing such a cruel scene" when you've burned characters alive on-screen? -_-)
 
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