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This is the part that immediately stood out to me from almost day 1 of these riots, as it was very different to what I expectedAs for outside forces, it's almost a guarantee. Multiple protestors recorded well coordinated white men dressed in black setting up buildings and starting fires and then they just disappear. They aren't actually part of the protest at all. I wish they would get caught so that it can be proven.
My thesis professor made a great statement about the history of violence in the process of social change.
She said that throughout history we can look at many revolutions and find some sort of violent battle connected to it. Look at the French Revolution. Look at the American Revolution. Look at the Civil War. Look at the Arab Spring. We look at history and no change is ever so easy as voting and making that change.
Change comes from hard fought battles, violent and peaceful. The peaceful protests can help but it is the violence the world responds to.
No, but it was a major catalyst in making the biggest wave.
The "go vote" argument is hilarious, as if gerrymandering doesn't exist. Take a fucking civics/sociology class.
I was generalizing, not making a statement that @Oracle Spockanort does that. With respect to her post that is often what happens when violence/war begins. People generalize - they say all of the jews were bad, or all of the police are bad, all black/white people are bad... etc, in order to dehumanize/place themselves on a pedestal in order to justify their actions - whether that be rioting/war/whatever.Where in that post you quoted did she call the opposition evil? That's a straw man.
But the post has little or nothing to do with morality or who is good or bad. She is stating major changes aren't made by hippies singing kumbaya in the forest hoping someone will listen. It also might need people aggressively defending the forest, tying themselves to trees, and fighting back the opposition trying to force them out.
That's why the example of MLK, Malcolm X, and the other people who created a perfect blend of peaceful and violent brought about civil rights is fitting.
It's time to accept that for every peaceful protest that gets ignored or destroyed by the people in power, a violent one will take its place.
If we humans were more intelligent and empathetic as we pretend to be, we wouldn't even need to vote out ineffective, racist, terrible people out of office, they would've never come to power in the first place.
Yes, this officer deserves that the law lay all the weight on him, but there's a due process.
It does and I'm exhausted by it, I think some of that is due to losing so many people recently because of corona/general ill health, and the never ending barrage of bad news. I'm just really tuckered out by the whole thing.All of these constant bad news and disproporciate coverage of certain news and the appeal to the masses emotions. That has a long term effect on people's psyche, man
And you think george floyd had enough clout for the person who did the autopsy to lie about it?The person who did the autopsy on Mr Floyd was the same person who did it for Epstein. But I suppose that means he's trustworthy and we should trust the results.
Also, I'm sure earlier in the thread I provided evidence straight from government officials that if there is any organisation in relation to rioting it was coming from white nationalists - decidedly not Antifa.
What I do know is this person has already lied once. I would not trust them again especially when other medical professionals are refuting them.And you think george floyd had enough clout for the person who did the autopsy to lie about it?
No government official or journalist pointed to antifa being present, and I'm not American but a quick search tell me Portland is a 26 hour drive to Minneapolis. Not sure what the correlation is here. As such, I'm not inclined to believe in this until I see video evidence or a reputable third party claim the information. Just because you say Antifa are there, doesn't mean I have to believe you.Just because a few government officials say there are white nationalists in the crowd does not mean antifa arent also there. Antifa has a history with messing up portland, would you also try to say they werent present there last night? They are definitely involved , its just a question of how much