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All of this goes to illustrate how the arms race for photorealistic graphics harmed games as a whole in the long run. The only reason anyone would ever consider getting a PS5 Pro is if they think it's important to see every pore in Nathan Drake's nose, or that this level of detail automatically makes a game worth it, and the industry has been encouraging this kind of thinking from consumers.

I miss Japan Studio.
 

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Oh sweet mama, what the hell is that price for the PS5 Pro? £700 and with no disc drive. Sheesh, you're having a laugh Sony.
 

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Sony, mainly the western side, is more concerned with wanting interactive movies than actually making video games at this point. And when they do bother with actual games we get Concord.

We shouldn't have left the philosophy of the sixth gen fr
 

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PS5 is no doubt gonna be a low point outside of select games.

And then PS6 will suddenly have a boatload of games
 

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Yeah, miss me with the digital first crap. So we buy into the digital ecosystem in the sixth gen and get told its better because publishers don't have to waste money with shipping, so we get cheaper products.

Fast forward to 2024 where the price of new games on the ps4 vs ps5 is a THIRTY POUNDS difference. Where is the money going?? What's with these massive budget AAA games??? How can £69.99/79.99 price points for games be tolerated? Inflation is one thing but this is well above the rate.

As for £700 no-disc-drive HD blackhead machine, I think the responsible thing to do is to spend less money than a Switch Lite costs on buying a second hand PS4 Pro and enjoying 90% of the games releases on PS5 anyway.

We're 4 years into this cycle with literally a handful of exclusives, that's a really dire situation to be in. I don't mind if we go back to the 90s where the Mega Drive and the S/NES just stayed relevant until the millennium. Maybe we need that stability for this ridiculous gaming bubble to burst
 

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My last non Nintendo console was the PS4 and it's looking like it's going to stay that way until the industry collapses or something.

Bloody graphics. I'll take FFX character models over seeing everyone's pores any day of the week.
 

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What really annoys me about the PS5 was that nobody was looking at it for more graphical fidelity, everywhere I was in at the time, I remember most people being excited to play old games better, and looking forward to new games.

NONE of those things have happened, Sony's backwards compatibility is a shame and it burns me every time they make another screw up rather than just patching full backwards compatibility and actually giving people cause to invest in the console. This is the first Sony console I don't own and I'm perfectly fine with it staying that way.
 

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We got me laughing at Sony asking for $1200 AUD for a PS5 Pro with a $160 disc drive purchased separately before Missing-Link released
 

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Welp. Neither me nor Neko are going to bother with a Pro, we're happy with our old ps5 on the main tv (we got that not too long ago after all!) and I'm happy with my ps4.

Still hoping for KH news but we'll see when it comes..
 
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I already have a PS5. I won't be purchasing another non-Nintendo console unless they decide to pull their heads out of their butts about that ridiculous price. Heck, I probably won't even get a PS6 when it drops. I have a PC. I can wait.
 

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yea that PS5 Pro price is a no for me, but I was never really interested in it anyway..

I will probably spend my money on Switch 2 next.
 

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I'm not expecting a PS6 to come out at the same interval that Playstation has released previous consoles. PS5 still hasn't outsold a single previous Playstation console iteration (besides the Vita), and there's going to be a noticeable paradigm shift when the Switch 2 releases using roughly PS4-level hardware. If the Switch 2 sells like crazy, developers aren't going to be targeting the max potential of the PS5, they're going to be targeting the max potential of the Switch 2, ensuring that they'll be able to release their titles on every platform. The public appetite for cinematic, hyper realistic games is dying down, and the appetite for convenience and games that are mechanically fun is higher than ever.

All of the most popular games of the past few years haven't been graphical powerhouses, they've been games that have some kind of hook. Elden Ring's difficulty and scope, Among Us's social element, Animal Crossing's cozy aesthetic and social features, Fortnite's unbeatable rate of free content, Call of Duty's reliable and familiar shooting gameplay, Minecraft's goliath popularity only seems to be increasing... These are the games that are captivating players. Meanwhile, responses to Spider-Man 2, God of War, and the constant re-releases of The Last of Us have been completely lukewarm. People are tired of having the controls wrested from them to listen to the drama and look at the hyper-realistic arm hairs of the protagonist gently bristle in the wind. Am I saying cinematic games are an obsolete artform and you're an idiot if you like them? No, of course not, stupid!! But "wow, look how real it looks" just doesn't seem to be moving systems anymore, they don't have a viral quality like they did back then, and I think the average player wants to have a fun, highly interactive experience, not Sony's imitation Hollywood.

Making a PS6 after the public disgust this PS5 Pro has created isn't just unlikely, I'm not even sure if it'll be possible for a long time. If people don't care about realism and fidelity and we can already play 100 player battle royales in 1440p 120FPS on the standard PS5, what experience is going to come out 5 years from now that can't exist on the PS5? I think on a performance and convenience level, the PS5 was a necessary and appreciated upgrade to the PS4, but I think we've reached the point of ultimate diminishing returns, and the focus must return to making irresistible GAMES, not hardware.

If I can somehow tie this back in to Kingdom Hearts, because for the love of all that is holy we drift further from that game each day; I'm happy Kingdom Hearts has stuck to its delineation of cutscenes and gameplay. There's nothing that kills my fun more than extended conversations and story that take place during an unskippable 'walk-and-talk' portion of gameplay. I get the story the first time I play, and then on replays I really prefer to just focus on the game and mechanics :)
 

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ps4 pro introduced performance vs fidelity, PS5 improved upon it, but PS5 pro just isn't enough of an upgrade. It will be interesting to see what PS6 could do, but Sony kinda shot themselves in the foot imo. A pro model this gen to me makes little sense, especially at their asking price. Might as well put it toward a PC at that right. Even in 2020 I always thought the PS5 was an unbelievable deal for the price to performance.
 
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