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moogless26

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I like the part, where you say that MX was heartless before. I have NEVER heard that before, but still it is very cool!:thumbup:

MX having a nobody somewhere? AWESOMENESS!!



MX nobody is Xehanort. the Xehanort who found by ATW in radiant garden. later he get to the door of the world's heart and became a heartless and nobody. heartless : ansem the seeker to darkness. the nobody xemnas. So one human who is not whole: MX. 2 nobody's: Xemnas and Xehanort. and 1 heartless: ansem the seeker to darkness. do you get it?
 
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MX nobody is Xehanort. the Xehanort who found by ATW in radiant garden. later he get to the door of the world's heart and became a heartless and nobody. heartless : ansem the seeker to darkness. the nobody xemnas. So one human who is not whole: MX. 2 nobody's: Xemnas and Xehanort. and 1 heartless: ansem the seeker to darkness. do you get it?
yea i get it, but Terra not being part of Xehanort? Just no way, man! Just no!:thumbsup:
 

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i don't have any thing about terra being part of Xehanort but i can be. we know when the game comes out;)
 

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yea i get it, but Terra not being part of Xehanort? Just no way, man! Just no!:thumbsup:

i dunno about being part of MX however they definitely have a serious back story. either way it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. personally im also interested in finding out roxas and sora's connection to ven
 

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also i forgot to mention but this is quite possibly one of the best threads on Xehanort theories that i have see yet you really thought this through congrates
 

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There weren't any Heartless or Nobodies in Birth by Sleep. That's the only flaw I see in your theory. Xehanort and his colleagues kept people they experimented on in the basement of the Hollow Bastion, therefore creating Heartless. As for the Room of Sleep, Xigbar also said that "...with the Room of Sleep comes the Room of Awakening." What this means I can only imagine...
 
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It says in the Ansem Reports (KH1) that Xehanort became a Heartless because he immersed himself in darkness. Most people that become Heartless have their hearts taken, but he gave his willingly to the darkness. That's probably why he kept his human form.
 

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First of all, don't double post.

I don't think MX was like Kairi because the only reason she didn't have a heartless is because she was a princess of heart and had no darkness in her heart. MX obviously has darkness in his heart, like most people who aren't princesses of heart. Only princesses of heart were known to have only light in their hearts.

And who is to say that MX lost his heart? He could have very easily:

1.) Died.
2.) Fused with Terra or someone else
3.) still alive but in hiding.

And DarkSoldier is right. There were no Heartless or Nobodies during the time of BBS.
 
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i think that if we are to understand what happened to MX then we need to start looking at the dark soldier. if i remember the vids ive seen it was like they were fused
 

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There weren't any Heartless or Nobodies in Birth by Sleep. That's the only flaw I see in your theory. Xehanort and his colleagues kept people they experimented on in the basement of the Hollow Bastion, therefore creating Heartless. As for the Room of Sleep, Xigbar also said that "...with the Room of Sleep comes the Room of Awakening." What this means I can only imagine...

yeah okay there weren't any heartless and nobody's. but maybe he was the first one who let his heart taken by darkness, or he have given his heart to darkness for more power. then he can become the first heartless and nobody. and he and sora were the only one who turned back to human from a heartless. and the heartless(ansem seeker of the darkness) was stil there so in the past he must have turned back from a heartless what made that he have 2 nobody's.

In TWTNW:

Vexen: Zexion! Zexion!
Zexion: What's all the fuss about?
Vexen: Where's Xemnas?
Zexion: At the usual place.
Vexen: The "Room of Sleep"?
Zexion: If it's urgent, why don't you go and see?
Vexen: Stop joking around! I will await his return. I must.
This is what happens when we need him and he sleeps. Now, of all times...
Xigbar: I'm not so good in that place either. How about you, mister Zexion?
Zexion: What are you doing, eavesdropping like this? The mission assigned to you and Xaldin was to look for new members. You shouldn't be able to afford wasting time around here.
Xigbar: I'm doing enough work, already! Found another one just yesterday. I think his new name is "Mar-" something or other. With this the Organization now has 11 members. That's quite a number. And so just for today I asked Lexaeus to cover for me so I could take a break... in anticipation of tomorrow's work, that is.
Zexion: Then please rest fully. I have work to do for today so I'll be going...
Xigbar: So harsh of you. I just want us to have a little fun talk about, say, Xemnas' secret. How many years ago was it? People with the blade of keys started to appear and fought great battles. When they were gone, a man who had lost his memories appeared. Xemnas... no... Xehanort was taken in by Ansem around that time, was he not?
Zexion: What of it?
Xigbar: The "Room of Sleep"... the underground laboratory where we were studying the darkness within people's hearts, the place which Ansem ordered us to seal-away... The first thing Xemnas did when he got rid of our wise yet bothersome leader was to release the seal and make that room in the depths of the laboratory. After that he frequently went down there and I could hear him talking with someone. Isn't that odd? Xemnas is supposed to be in there alone.
Zexion: It seems you really enjoy eavesdropping.
Xigbar: I couldn't hear what they were actually saying. And so I feel preoccupied. You're interested too, right?
Zexion: I simply want to concentrate on my assignment. You too should concentrate on your real mission and collect more members. We must hurry with the preperations for our new quarters... 11 Organization members is not enough.
Xigbar: Our new quarters... oh, Castle Oblivion, right? What does Xemnas hope to achieve by using that?
Zexion: We've been told that-
Xigbar: There's a reason, one that hasn't been told to anyone. With the "Room of Sleep" comes the "Room of Awakening", the other place. That is what he is seeking; that room, which was not made by Xemnas. Perhaps that is where the other... "friend" is.



the new scene from final mix what proof a little of my theory.

they fought great battles, maybe MX was so scared of losing from the 3 knights he fully let the darkness in his heart what makes a heartless and a nobody.



Simply astonishing! Today I had a guest from another world. He is a king and, his vessel is built of the material that composed the meteors. He called the pieces "gummi blocks". It seems that my opening that door has opened a path to interworld travel.

We talked for countless hours but one story in particular caught my interest, that of a key called the "keyblade". The keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power.

One legend says its wielder saved the world, while another says he wrought chaos and ruin upon it. I must know what this keyblade is. A key opens doors. It must be connected to the door that I have opened.

why he so interested in this story from the king is maybe because he as human was a keyblade bearer, MX was for a short time a heartless so only the strongest memories get to the nobody, that must be hatred anger and the keyblade. and the story from the king actived his memories again and so he can open the basement of the castle from ATW.

better theory with the others from me combined?
 

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Well, he is a mysterious man after all...
Seems that the number of Organization members are not fixed from the start, which means there could be 14, 15 or even 16 members...
Something must have prevented Xemnas from recruiting more... because I don't think thirteen is enough either...
 

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i just had a thought to support that theory of two heartless or maybe two nobodys that dark soldier had to be a heartless or a nobody i mean he did have the insignia on him so he has to be some part of xehanort btw sorry about all these dark soldier theories it's just i really wanna know who the heck he could be....or what
 

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what about that i saw this already ??o-o

it's going about this part



Xigbar: So harsh of you. I just want us to have a little fun talk about, say, Xemnas' secret. How many years ago was it? People with the blade of keys started to appear and fought great battles. When they were gone, a man who had lost his memories appeared. Xemnas... no... Xehanort was taken in by Ansem around that time, was he not?


that is strange that when they were done with fighting Xehanort showed up
 

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i just had a thought to support that theory of two heartless or maybe two nobodys that dark soldier had to be a heartless or a nobody i mean he did have the insignia on him so he has to be some part of xehanort btw sorry about all these dark soldier theories it's just i really wanna know who the heck he could be....or what

he is someone not a what. because in a cutscene he taking his helmet of, but not shown his face. so maybe his one of the man from MX or what we don't know.
 

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he is someone not a what. because in a cutscene he taking his helmet of, but not shown his face. so maybe his one of the man from MX or what we don't know.

when i say what i mean heartless nobody human or.....something else DUHDUHDUH lol
 

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when i say what i mean heartless nobody human or.....something else DUHDUHDUH lol

but i got a Q. Xehanort's heartless(ansem seeker of darkness) have made the heartless logo. but why has the DS already it on his suit?

does someone get this?
 

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yeah okay there weren't any heartless and nobody's. but maybe he was the first one who let his heart taken by darkness, or he have given his heart to darkness for more power. then he can become the first heartless and nobody. and he and sora were the only one who turned back to human from a heartless. and the heartless(ansem seeker of the darkness) was stil there so in the past he must have turned back from a heartless what made that he have 2 nobody's.

No. He wouldn't be the first to have his heart taken by darkness, to start with. And on that note, heartless and nobodies didn't exist until Xehanort created pureblood heartless with his experiments.

they fought great battles, maybe MX was so scared of losing from the 3 knights he fully let the darkness in his heart what makes a heartless and a nobody.

I doubt MX would be so desperate in most circumstances...either someone caught him off-guard, or he defeated himself...

why he so interested in this story from the king is maybe because he as human was a keyblade bearer, MX was for a short time a heartless so only the strongest memories get to the nobody, that must be hatred anger and the keyblade. and the story from the king actived his memories again and so he can open the basement of the castle from ATW.

Where is Terra? As much as I hate the idea, Terra has to be in there somewhere.
 

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but i got a Q. Xehanort's heartless(ansem seeker of darkness) have made the heartless logo. but why has the DS already it on his suit?

does someone get this?

that's a good point.......i never really thought about it how did DS get it on his suit? i mean if this is before heartless and all
 
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