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E3 2017: What we hope to see from Kingdom Hearts 3

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Published on May 26, 2017 @ 12:00 pm
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It has been 15 years since Kingdom Hearts originally released on the Playstation 2. In the first three months of 2017, Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue and Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX both released on the Playstation 4, and mobile game Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ was revamped into Kingdom Hearts Union χ. 

There's only one piece of the puzzle left for the Kingdom Hearts anniversary. There has been a suspicious absense of Kingdom Hearts 3 news, with only less than a handful of screenshots released to tide fans over. E3 2017 is just a few short weeks away and the Kingdom Hearts Insider site staff have weighed in on what they would like to see at E3.

I love seeing how the Osaka team is getting a better grasp at developing KH3 with the Unreal Engine 4, as their expertise comes primarily from developing for handheld consoles. The character models haven‘t looked their best so far, but they‘ve definitely been improving over time and I certainly hope they look well at this year‘s E3. 

Dream Drop Distance presented us with a bit of a messy story in my opinion, and it feels like everyone‘s just automatically going to magically return in KH3 without it feeling satisfying. A nice, Nomura directed E3 trailer that shows us they‘re taking detailed care of KH3‘s story will definitely help alleviate my worries! I just hope it doesn‘t spoil 98% of the story like most trailers unfortunately do.

As for other titles I‘m certainly looking forward to the FF7 Remake. Who knows if they‘ll present to us a "dream team" developed FFXVI as well, directed by Hiroyuki Ito and maybe even some other desirable names too?

- Gexus

It's been a good long while since we've seen any content from Kingdom Hearts 3. With talk that development has progressed more on content that hasn't been revealed, what they can show is what they can't and vice versa, I'd be more than happy to just see the obvious. 

Confirm a Frozen world! Fly around San Fransokyo, reveal the new outfits and let us reunite with the Radiant Garden gang.

- Sign

 

I'm excited for E3 this year, but in a different way to previous years. Instead of just expecting some sort of Kingdom Hearts presence, perhaps due to my own growth or otherwise, I have this incredible anticipation, while also harbouring a sort of blank mind. I would like to see Kingdom Hearts, but at the same time it's not such a huge deal if I don't. In my eyes, E3 is a time to gather with my friends and collectively laugh and joke about the crazy presentations put out by all the big name companies, as they continuously try to one-up each other.

I try to not create any sort of expectation, however simply experience the event in its purest and simplest form. A bit like when I was younger. Which is interesting, the growth I mentioned before may perhaps be a return to purer thought. Sometimes, it's better to face reality as is, and to feel the moments as they come, free from the complexity of our own minds. 

That being said though, I do believe Nomura has had something brewing for quite a while now...

- Saken


It's been such a long time since we last saw KH3 that I would like a new trailer to showcase the story. I remember watching the E3 trailer in 2015 and being in awe that we were witnessing an actual English-spoken cutscene from KH3 and I want to experience that feeling again. 

In terms of gamep
lay and other elements I am DESPERATE to see the Disney denizens. Show me Rapunzel, show me Hercules, show me Baymax. I could do without seeing Attraction Flow though. We’ve seen a few of them and I’d rather the rest be kept a surprise because it feels like every secret in a video game is shown pre-release.

I’m also excited to hopefully see footage from Insomniac’s Spider-Man (Release date please!!!) and I feel like Final Fantasy VII Remake is a given. I’m very excited for that one.

- Chaser

 

I am not sure what to expect, and am just looking forward to surprises rather than anything in particular, but I bet when that music starts playing I will be filled with emotions all over again!

- Goldpanner

Ever since the reveal of the suitcases in 0.2 and the promotional Key Art for KHUX, I’ve wanted to see Riku, Kairi, and Mickey’s new outfits. Maybe Lea will have one too?

Gameplay footage from guest party members or even Summons would be great; parti
cularly Rapunzel's hair animated in battle or Sora flying on Baymax. It's been quite a while since we've seen a new Final Fantasy cameo.

I think I’d like to see another form aside from Power Form and Guard Form. Magic Form? Tsum Tsum Form?

Other than Kingdom Hearts III, I’ve been anticipating more news for Dragon Quest XI and Final Fantasy VII Remake! Due to FF7R's episodic nature, I have a feeling we may hear something soon.

- Zephyr 

 

I've been so busy with life that I haven't had time to really think about E3—or Kingdom Hearts for that matter—until now. I want nothing more for Kingdom Hearts 3 to finally have a new trailer. 

It is the 15th anniversary of Kingdom Hearts so it feels so weird that this year has been so silent besides the concerts and Union X [Cross]. This would be the perfect time to have an explosion of news to hype the fans up and truly start the celebrations of the anniversary year. 

Give us story, give us Riku and Kairi, give us Rapunzel whipping Heartless with her hair. Throw Lann and Reynn from World of Final Fantasy in or Laguna Loire from Final Fantasy VIII as Final Fantasy guests. Anything will get us excited, just as long as it is new and substantial.

As for what else I'd want to see, I would love to see some news about Project Octopath Traveler or Final Fantasy VII Remake (can I hope for The World Ends With You 2?)

And I'm already excited to see what Nintendo, Sony, Ubisoft, and other companies will show us this year. All I know is that I'll likely continue to be poor for years to come thanks to this year's E3 showing.

- Master Spockanort


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gosoxtim

May 26, 2017 @ 12:08 pmOffline

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i with master spockanort stuff plus show us the the new stuff don't us stuff we already seen we don't want that it been two year with out news show us what you got and give us release year as for other tile i want to see sly 5 or another sly title beyond good evil and evil 2 wont be at e3 this year so that done a tease of some sort of spyro even if a t shirt

Chaser

May 26, 2017 @ 12:46 pmOffline

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I agree, Gosoxtim. I think every single Kingdom Hearts fan wants something new, and they really should give it to us. There's no excuse when they have no other game to promote and it's the 15th anniversary. They need to actually start promoting the game.

On a side note, if you're watching the E3 conferences from home remember to follow KHInsider on Twitter for some fun banter. While the staff in America prepare to attend the conferences, I live tweet myself watching them all the way from Australia and it's always a fun time to just relax and enjoy since I'm sleep deprived and just giddy since Ubisoft always perks me up. [strike]I'm surprised my social media privileges weren't revoked after Insomniac's Spider-Man game was announced, or my multiple tweets to Sony asking where Gravity Rush 2 was[/strike].

gosoxtim

May 26, 2017 @ 12:53 pmOffline

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Chaser
I agree, Gosoxtim. I think every single Kingdom Hearts fan wants something new, and they really should give it to us. There's no excuse when they have no other game to promote and it's the 15th anniversary. They need to actually start promoting the game.
exactly make us want to buy this game and tell us why should we wait for this game to come out if there time to start promte this game this e3 has to be it

on a small side not as well who going to e3 and d23 from the staff this year besides masterspockanort

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ultima-demi

May 26, 2017 @ 01:08 pmOffline

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It's funny,been debating if i should even watch a potential E3 trailer.

First time i'm thinking i wanna go in with as little as knowledge as possible but at the same time i really want to see their progress.

Alpha Baymax

May 26, 2017 @ 02:50 pmOffline

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I have a good feeling that we'll see a Kingdom Hearts 2.8 situation in which the trailer is announced a week before E3.

7th_heaven

May 26, 2017 @ 03:03 pmOffline

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I want Shibuya- TWEWY gang in Tokyo- Big hero 6 world

Silver_Soul

May 26, 2017 @ 03:04 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
I have a good feeling that we'll see a Kingdom Hearts 2.8 situation in which the trailer is announced a week before E3.


I feel like that would take away from the hype of having it at a conference, no?

Alpha Baymax

May 26, 2017 @ 03:06 pmOffline

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Silver_Soul
I feel like that would take away from the hype of having it at a conference, no?


Oh yeah, I forgot that they were doing a monotomous conference this year. Can't wait to see Shinji troll everyone again.

Zettaflare

May 26, 2017 @ 03:07 pmOffline

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I just want to see more of Corona and San Fransokyo in gameplay. With possibly Rapunzel and Hiro/Baymax as party members.

And one of two world reveals would be nice, lol.

FudgemintGuardian

May 26, 2017 @ 03:45 pmOffline

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At this point we better get things that are not Sora and Attraction Flow. Gimme more footage of previously announced worlds (and in the case of San Fransokyo, footage in general) and finally show their residents. Give us Riku, Kairi, and Lea in their new outfits. Give us some Xehanort, and maybe give us some Marluxia since it's already been hinted at that he's in the game. If any of those things happen I'll be satisfied.

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horto12485

May 26, 2017 @ 04:27 pmOffline

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1: Maybe a Demo prehaps.

2: Gameplay Footage of San Fransokyo

3: Rapunzel, Hercules and Baymax(Where are they) we haven't seen them in E3 2015 Trailer or in Jump Festa Trailer

4: At least 2 or 3 Worlds announced(Option 1: Frozen, Toy Story and The Jungle Book) or(Pocahontas, Treasure Planet and Atlantis)

5: And a Potential Trailer(We need some new Scenes and Riku, Kairi and Mickey and Others)

gosoxtim

May 26, 2017 @ 04:29 pmOffline

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this e3 they have to show us new stuff like a story trailer of some sort along with world they have not shown yet plus these new outfits nomura talking about one more thing if they really getterate the most hpe and buzz i believe this game should last in the sony conference

as xenmas once said

"It has been far too long, "friend"."

Muke

May 26, 2017 @ 04:33 pmOffline

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I just want a story trailer and other characters than Sora, Xehanort, and Eraqus. Also, show us some Disney party member now! I wanna see Rapunzel. I'm so curious as to how they're handling her hair. Show me San Fransokyo and more of Corona.

Then I'll he happy.

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notnow123487

May 26, 2017 @ 04:35 pmOffline

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Predictions.

1. No story trailer, just more gameplay with a new cut scene thrown in to make us go OMG and forget how we didn't actually get much new information.
2. San fransokyo debut gameplay.
3. New world announced, but no gameplay.
4. Now in development.

gosoxtim

May 26, 2017 @ 04:36 pmOffline

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Muke
I just want a story trailer and other characters than Sora, Xehanort, and Eraqus. Also, show us some Disney party member now! I wanna see Rapunzel. I'm so curious as to how they're handling her hair. Show me San Fransokyo and more of Corona.

Then I'll he happy.
yeah im curious about the hair part as muke i wonder if anydoy form the tangled team are helping them with the hair put

notnow123487
Predictions.


1. No story trailer, just more gameplay with a new cut scene thrown in to make us go OMG and forget how we didn't actually get much new information.
2. San fransokyo debut gameplay.
3. New world announced, but no gameplay.
4. Now in development.


1. they got show story trailer sooner then later
2.verr possible
3.um not possible they need show new world gameplay with the new world the only reason big hero 6 world was not ready yet so they made a video with roy annouced big hero 6 for kh3 they cant cant do that if they are psx connfernce
4.now in devlopment could happen but i think we see 2018

Cactuar

May 26, 2017 @ 04:48 pmOffline

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I'm actually surprised that we haven't seen a single Disney character yet (aside from Mickey and co.) so I feel like we're long overdue.

Also speaking of Rapunzel, if we see some gameplay I remember a while ago someone talking about (don't remember who it was exactly) how they were thinking of unique ways for Rapunzel to use her hair in combat so that would be cool to see in action

Squood!

May 26, 2017 @ 05:00 pmOffline

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I just wanna see KH3 at Sony's conference, alongside the new Spider-Man, Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, and whatever else they got.

A story trailer would be freaking great, but as long as it's a good trailer and it's at Sony's conference, I'll be happy.

hemmoheikkinen

May 26, 2017 @ 07:09 pmOffline

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I really hope it`s something new that they show us. A mix of new gameplay and story stuff would be perfect but I am fine with just getting either one of those things.



On a side note, if you're watching the E3 conferences from home remember to follow KHInsider on Twitter for some fun banter. While the staff in America prepare to attend the conferences, I live tweet myself watching them all the way from Australia and it's always a fun time to just relax and enjoy since I'm sleep deprived and just giddy since Ubisoft always perks me up.

I'm surprised my social media privileges weren't revoked after Insomniac's Spider-Man game was announced, or my multiple tweets to Sony asking where Gravity Rush 2 was

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Out of curiosity how many members from the staff in States will be attending this year? I also assume some folks from KH13 will be there too?

gosoxtim

May 26, 2017 @ 07:14 pmOffline

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hemmoheikkinen
Out of curiosity how many members from the staff in States will be attending this year? I also assume some folks from KH13 will be there too?
i think master spockanort and zephyr are going again

Squood!

May 26, 2017 @ 07:43 pmOffline

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I also wanna see mah boi Baymax.

Sephiroth0812

May 26, 2017 @ 08:05 pmOffline

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notnow123487
Predictions.

1. No story trailer, just more gameplay with a new cut scene thrown in to make us go OMG and forget how we didn't actually get much new information.
2. San fransokyo debut gameplay.
3. New world announced, but no gameplay.
4. Now in development.


Sounds certainly reasonable.

I am with those though who pine for at least a glimpse of some Disney characters, mainly to see how far they improved with the models since 0.2.

I'm sceptic of any story trailer anyways since when I remember the BBS and DDD Trailers Square has a habit to reveal way too much in story trailers so it would be better if there is no story trailer at all.

Zettaflare

May 26, 2017 @ 08:25 pmOffline

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If they show off San Fransokyo we might get a clue if the world's will have actual NPCs or just the same standard empty locations.

Launchpad

May 26, 2017 @ 08:31 pmOffline

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Disney characters. If any of them look half as good as Donald in 0.2, we'll be blessed

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ultima-demi

May 26, 2017 @ 08:32 pmOffline

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Donald looked good in 0.2?I thought he looked the worse with Goofy looking the best.

hemmoheikkinen

May 26, 2017 @ 08:34 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
i think master spockanort and zephyr are going again


All right, thanks. Yeah, I think they went to the event last year too.

Alpha Baymax

May 26, 2017 @ 09:03 pmOffline

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Cactuar
I'm actually surprised that we haven't seen a single Disney character yet (aside from Mickey and co.) so I feel like we're long overdue.


Couldn't agree more, we've already seen Yen Sid, Mickey, Donald and Goofy rendered in the Kingdom Shader, so let's finally see what the Disney Animation Studios characters look like. Nomura said that the Kingdom Hearts shader was designed for the "Disney brush stroke" sort of feel, I want to see that realised with the Disney characters.

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ultima-demi

May 26, 2017 @ 09:18 pmOffline

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It would be incredibly impressive if they really could really make the Disney characters models look on par with their Disney film counterparts.

Like i have a hard time imaging the unreal 4 model of Rapunzel looking close to this with how the models currently look.

namidawa

May 26, 2017 @ 09:28 pmOffline

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You know, even if the KH3 panel doesn't meet my expectations, I'd be pretty content. I already have shows, songs, and other games to keep me company.

My main expectation is a year posted at the end of the trailer. But you know, even if it doesn't I can't scream and shout. I'd rather focus on the better sides that E3's gonna pull out this year. :D

Chuman

May 26, 2017 @ 09:39 pmOffline

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look i just want a moana world world reveal so we can get dwayne johnson in kingdom hearts. wait. what if they redesign master xehanort so he's ripped and age him down a bit, make him the main xehanort and have dwayne johnson voice him? holy shit i know exactly what i want from kingdom hearts

on a serious note, anything new would make me happy. big hero 6 gameplay, mount olympus gameplay, story, music, absolutely anything and everything new would leave me satisfied, especially if we were given a release window.

MATGSY

May 26, 2017 @ 10:08 pmOffline

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I don't have predictions. What I have are insane, incredibly implausible dream scenarios that have no chance of happening but damn if it wouldn't be cool if they did. So I'm indulge in reai world fanfiction for a minute:

KH3 doesn't just get a trailer at E3, it makes new gameplay/world/character reveals at each of the 1st party presentations. Yes Sony, Microsoft, & Nintendo all getting KH3 love!

Starting with the XBox conference, KH3 is 1 of the games shown to demonstrate the power of the Scorpio. No one's given a damn about KH3 being an XB1 title until now & now the time to change that. The theme of the XBox trailer is This is Kingdom Hearts 3 at it's very best. Because afterall the Scorpio is by default the most advanced system that the game will be released on. The trailer shows the Toy Story world, with visuals nearly on par with the movie itself. Sora, Donald, & Goofy are turned into a Gundam kit model, rubber duck, & a wind-up toy dog respectively. Pete shows up near the end as a large plush doll. New weapon drives & attraction flows are introduced. Everyone leaves happy & content thinking they've all there is for KH3 this year.

Then the next day Sony blindsides them all with even more KH3 reveals. The theme of the Playstation trailer is We're large & in-charge & we've got the coolest shit! This is reinforced by this trailer showing the 1 world that would get more mainstream attention than any other: Star Wars. But oh, there's no Sora here. For this is where Square finally drops a bombshell they've been hiding up til now: there are other playable characters. We see Riku & King Mickey. trudging the deserts of Tatooine, battling storm troopers & new heartless along the way. The quick shots of the duo meeting Luke & R2 & them getting on board the Millennium Falcon get crowd so hype up they don't even fully notice at first that the Riku gameplay is CoM card-based. Yes, it seems each of the playable characters has completely different battle systems, with the purpose of covering the series history so that KH3 feels ever more the culmination of all that's transpired so far. Mickey& Luke are present as on-field party members but friend cards activate team-up moves.

At this point there's some speculation on various forums about the possibility of yet another reveal during Nintendo's direct. However most people will ultimately write that, believing that the tablet wouldn't be powerful to run the game & after Riku & Aqua there's no other viable characters anyway. Well suffice to say KH3 on Switch is confirmed, though the footage shown isn't running on the actual hardware yet since the full support for Unreal 4 only just now became available. The Switch trailer's theme is Hey um, we can play too guys! We are shown Kairi with her new party members Minnie & Daisy on a snowy hilltop looking at the ice palace of Elsa off in the distance. Rapid-fire scenes showcase the story from Kairi's perspective: her training in the hyperbolic time chamber, What happens to Lea after finishing his training, the Impetus of her new journey, the introduction to her new party members. Gameplay shows her battling in Twilight Town, Corona, & Arendelle. Her gameplay is the Command Deck. The big highlight of the trailer is the boss battle with Marshmallow, with flowmotion antics happening in-front of, in, on, & all over the ice palace as the monster pursues her. The hinting of another bossfight with Elsa serves as the stinger.

All three characters are going to be playable in all versions of the game, there's no platform exclusive content. Square just wanted to each hero ample time to show off & presenting at all 3 events was deemed the best way of doing that. The HD remixes are all announced for XB1 & Switch for late 2017, to give those players something to tide them over until KH3's 2018 release.

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What's actually going to realistically happen? IDK, Lego KH maybe?

Squood!

May 26, 2017 @ 10:28 pmOffline

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KH3 trailer with a small clip at the end of original FFVII Cloud and Sora vs Sephiroth in his original FFVII attire high above Radiant Garden in a Two v. One fight with the Advent Children version of One Winged Angel playing.

key of darkness

May 26, 2017 @ 10:33 pmOffline

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Really hoping for anything at this point. A trailer would be amazing to have right now to show off worlds, characters and some gameplay. I don't know about them showing a release date yet. Maybe a year like 2018? I don't want to them to rush kh3 and not being fully complete like alot of games this console generation. If they add some form of dlc like costumes I'm with that and some story expansion that you can play as like riku or someone.

Chaser

May 27, 2017 @ 12:18 amOffline

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Muke
I wanna see Rapunzel. I'm so curious as to how they're handling her hair.

One of her hair's functions better be as a grind rail.

hemmoheikkinen

Out of curiosity how many members from the staff in States will be attending this year? I also assume some folks from KH13 will be there too?

Should be Spock, Zephyr, and Sign. Last year Taochan went but she's unable to this year.

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Deleted member

May 27, 2017 @ 01:24 amOffline

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god dang story trailer for once.

Unusual1290

May 27, 2017 @ 05:04 amOffline

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Obviously a trailer. The delusional part of me would like to see a playable demo, but that obvs won't happen (I see it happening at JF though). I WANT to see a release window, but I'm 50/50 on that actually happening. Some new concept art would be great as well.

For the trailer, I'd just like to see the reveal of some new worlds, Disney characters, party members like Baymax and Rapunzel in action, a FF character or 2 (even if it's just Leon or Cloud. NOT a Moogle tho!), and actual story footage.

gosoxtim

May 27, 2017 @ 12:47 pmOffline

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quick question who thinks they should closed the playstaion confernce out with kh3?

Muke

May 27, 2017 @ 01:14 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
quick question who thinks they should closed the playstaion confernce out with kh3?

Would be great, but that's not going to happen :S

Also, can I just say how nobody except for KH fans seems to care about KH3? I'm looking at all these prediction lists and can never spot KH.

gosoxtim

May 27, 2017 @ 01:45 pmOffline

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Muke
Would be great, but that's not going to happen :S

Also, can I just say how nobody except for KH fans seems to care about KH3? I'm looking at all these prediction lists and can never spot KH.
yeah it just one thing that wishful thing and those fans dont understand the serie like we do

Muke

May 27, 2017 @ 01:49 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
yeah it just one thing that wishful thing and those fans dont understand the serie like we do

No, that's not the thing. It seems like casual gamers don't care about KH.. or at least they don't think KH is big/popular enough?

Chaser

May 27, 2017 @ 02:32 pmOffline

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Muke
Would be great, but that's not going to happen :S

Also, can I just say how nobody except for KH fans seems to care about KH3? I'm looking at all these prediction lists and can never spot KH.

Actually a lot of people care for it, they're just not that vocal about it online, on Kingdom Hearts websites. It had one of the biggest cheers during the 2013 E3 conference, and there was some great stuff there that year.

Ueki_168

May 27, 2017 @ 02:39 pmOffline

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I believe strongly that they will show a trailer, and might I stress out that it will be a trailer, not a new trailer. Of course I hope and I wish they gave us something new to be excited about but what I'm sure about is a trailer, maybe what we've already seen but refined, maybe as you guys say: a Disney character.
I am stoked to see Disney on UE4 and see how they animate and handle everyone else that's not The King and co.

As for other things at E3? Maybe this is dumb but it'll be cool if they had KH3 promotional posters and all that sort of stuff at the entrance and the insides of E3.

And sorry but I don't think FF on KH3 will be a thing this E3, it would be SOOOOOOO cool to see Noctis on it, but it is NOT going to happen, at least my heart tells me.
And you know what they say "May your heart be your guiding key"

gosoxtim

May 27, 2017 @ 02:41 pmOffline

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Chaser
Actually a lot of people care for it, they're just not that vocal about it online, on Kingdom Hearts websites. It had one of the biggest cheers during the 2013 E3 conference, and there was some great stuff there that year.
yeah i remember the whole place erupt i think this year it will erupt louder then 2013 i aslo belive kh3 should go on last as well to ff7 remake it time to show something but also you have to think kh3 release year end will give the most appaulse

hemmoheikkinen

May 27, 2017 @ 06:34 pmOffline

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Should be Spock, Zephyr, and Sign. Last year Taochan went but she's unable to this year.




Right, thanks for informing! Taochan sure must be really busy, sine I haven`t seen her in the forums in a long while.

Alpha Baymax

May 27, 2017 @ 08:49 pmOffline

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Muke
Would be great, but that's not going to happen :S

Also, can I just say how nobody except for KH fans seems to care about KH3? I'm looking at all these prediction lists and can never spot KH.


The last trailer was shown two years ago, casual consumers and general gamers aren't all that focused on Kingdom Hearts III because it isn't consistent enough to maintain their attention. You remember Cuphead? Kingdom Hearts III is like Cuphead in terms of consumer interest, people love what they see, but the game hasn't entered its marketing phase.

BlackOsprey

May 28, 2017 @ 12:17 amOffline

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Stuff that we haven't seen before?

Seriously. That's all I really want. I'll be pretty let down if all we get is pmuch the same stuff we'd already been shown before, just shot in different angles or something like that.

Squood!

May 28, 2017 @ 12:53 amOffline

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ECH. I wish it was E3 time already.....the wait is killing me.

Recon

May 28, 2017 @ 06:53 amOffline

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what we hope to see? good animations and no fish face

Chaser

May 28, 2017 @ 08:40 amOffline

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Recon
what we hope to see? good animations and no fish face

Advanced fish face was in 0.2, it will be in 3.

Squood!

May 28, 2017 @ 09:00 amOffline

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After thinking it over, I wanna see a Treasure Planet world, along with a Drive Form.

FudgemintGuardian

May 28, 2017 @ 02:54 pmOffline

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Chaser
Advanced fish face was in 0.2, it will be in 3.
"This is not your average, everyday fishface. This is... ADVANCED fishface."

Squood!

May 28, 2017 @ 08:09 pmOffline

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FudgemintGuardian
"This is not your average, everyday fishface. This is... ADVANCED fishface."

It really is advanced. I almost thought fish face was annihilated completely.

VoidGear.

May 28, 2017 @ 08:14 pmOffline

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Sora's running animation to be fixed.
Other than that, maybe stuff we haven't seen yet. Not getting my hopes up either way.

Ballad of Caius

May 28, 2017 @ 08:44 pmOffline

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I'm honestly not expecting anything. And I would prefer a half minute cutscene with lots of gameplay instead of Square spoiling me the story.

Zettaflare

May 28, 2017 @ 08:56 pmOffline

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If we don't get new worlds maybe we could get some new heartless. Or maybe nobodies. We got Marluxia covered, maybe we could get one from the other four unknown.

gosoxtim

May 28, 2017 @ 09:08 pmOffline

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If we don't get new worlds maybe we could get some new heartless. Or maybe nobodies. We got Marluxia covered, maybe we could get one from the other four unknown.
i think we 2-3 new world world revela with couple old world stuff but new like hercules thebes fight and some of tangled and bh6 becuase i think they going to save some stuff for d23 in july

Alpha Baymax

May 28, 2017 @ 11:59 pmOffline

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Swoosh
If we don't get new worlds maybe we could get some new heartless. Or maybe nobodies. We got Marluxia covered, maybe we could get one from the other four unknown.


Screw the small stuff, go all the way and show off Marluxia's somebody, Lumiair. That'll really get people talking about the game. But if we're being realistic, I suppose we can see Vexen's nobodies in a Frozen world. After all, Vexen is based of the ice element and Frozen's theme speaks for itself.

As far as Lexeaus, Zexion's and Larxene's nobodies go, I can see Zexion's in a Princess and The Frog world as Zexion and Dr. Facilier are associated with dark magic, Lexeaus can be in an Atlantis world because Lexeaus is associated with earth and heavy duty, just like the heavy duty steampunk machinery used in Atlantis, and Larxene's nobodies can be in Big Hero 6 as she's associated with electricity, and Big Hero 6 is a contemporary world based on technology, which is powered by electricity.

Ueki_168

May 29, 2017 @ 02:39 pmOffline

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As I've read somewhere on this thread, what I'm most certain they'll show if they show something, are the Drive Forms. I mean, what is the only thing they've shown to us via """""""updates"""""""? Drive forms.

To me it'd make a lot of sense to see how they actually work and look. Plus, Sora talking, I wanna see him animated, something, battle cries, anything in the action of battle. I'd like to see if they can pull off a dynamic battle system that feels alive.

PS: Am I digressing?

moonstar_xo

May 29, 2017 @ 05:46 pmOffline

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If we don't get a trailer with some story elements in it I'll be kind of disappointed. I'd also love to get a glimpse at some of the worlds we haven't seen yet (like BH6 and possibly another unannounced world). I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much, but I have a feeling it's going to be a pretty exciting E3.

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Desii

May 29, 2017 @ 06:22 pmOffline

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Guys remember we're not even sure we'll get a trailer don't put the standards too high. Anyway...
I definetly want a story trailer, or at least a single scene after more gameplay.
+ I'm going to say it, a release date. Square got me worried after the 2020 release thing.

ghostwarmen

May 29, 2017 @ 06:43 pmOffline

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Above all else, as many have stated, I just want a new trailer. We're long overdue for something new and I have got to see how this game is looking as of now. I also hope and believe that we will receive some sort of release date at the end of this new trailer. Whether it be a specific date or just the year, this game has to be getting close to it's release, so now is the time to go all out with promotion and finishing this sucker up.

If I see "Now in Development" at the end of the trailer, I will bash my head against a wall.....

wwinterj

May 30, 2017 @ 05:48 amOffline

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I hope to see a new trailer with a release date. However I'm not expecting much at all.

Squood!

May 30, 2017 @ 06:10 amOffline

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Footage of Cable Town, perhaps?

Or maybe Sora and Baymax v. Dark Baymax.

Riku in his new FFXV-esque outfit?

Kairi in her new outfit?

Footage of Spider-Man as a summon with his moveset from Marvel vs Capcom 3??

OLD MAN XEHANORT?

YOUNG MAN TROLLANORT?!

MARLUXIANORT???!?!!?

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Deleted member

May 30, 2017 @ 02:42 pmOffline

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new utada song would be a surprise.

footage of the multiplayer/online function (assuming it hasnt been cut)

Ueki_168

May 30, 2017 @ 02:51 pmOffline

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Audo
new utada song would be a surprise.

footage of the multiplayer/online function (assuming it hasnt been cut)
Oh man! I couldn't agree more!

I'm sooooo tired of the Lingering Will song. Please Square, please give me the new Utada hit, make me wanna watch the trailer multiple times to admire her singing. Please?..

gosoxtim

May 30, 2017 @ 02:51 pmOffline

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Audo
new utada song would be a surprise.
you know is it in the relam of the possible we hear utada new them song in the trailer i mean her father slip and said she working on it before he had to backpaddle

Squood!

May 31, 2017 @ 01:29 amOffline

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Hm. I just noticed a pattern.

2013: KH3 appeared at E3 and had info followed by another trailer at D23.

2014: 2.5 was the focus, and there was only a small bit of KH3 at the end of the 2.5 E3 trailer.

2015: KH3 appears at E3 with a full trailer, followed by information, a world reveal at D23 Anaheim, a full event at the Japanese D23, with the trailer there being added on to the 2.8 trailer at Jump Festa.

2016: 2.8 has full spotlight with a very very tiny bit of KH3 at the end, news for KH3 was dry.

So based on this and my hope that I'm not going crazy and that 2.8 and 1.5+2.5 have been released for some time now, KH3 will most likely appear at either E3 or the KH Orchestra concert that is conviently going to start around the time of E3, then a bunch of news and hopefully a release date and maaaaaaaaybe a new Utada song because goddammit I want me some more Utada songs.

Pestilence

May 31, 2017 @ 02:05 amOffline

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Desii
Guys remember we're not even sure we'll get a trailer don't put the standards too high. Anyway...
I definetly want a story trailer, or at least a single scene after more gameplay.
+ I'm going to say it, a release date. Square got me worried after the 2020 release thing.


You know it's a Square Japan game when 4 years after announcement hoping for a trailer at E3 is having ''too high standards''.

gosoxtim

May 31, 2017 @ 11:43 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
So based on this and my hope that I'm not going crazy and that 2.8 and 1.5+2.5 have been released for some time now, KH3 will most likely appear at either E3 or the KH Orchestra concert that is conviently going to start around the time of E3, then a bunch of news and hopefully a release date and maaaaaaaaybe a new Utada song because goddammit I want me some more Utada songs.
it could aprear at both the concert and at e3 as well i could see a sceenshot at the 10 concert then a trailer at e3 then same trailer at june 14 concert

U.N. Owen

May 31, 2017 @ 08:04 pmOffline

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Rage Awakened. I think SE knows about how ... impatient we are for footage.

Squood!

May 31, 2017 @ 10:39 pmOffline

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OH OH OH! Waht if Noctis appears in the trailer?

gosoxtim

May 31, 2017 @ 11:00 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
OH OH OH! Waht if Noctis appears in the trailer?
if he does appear in the trailer he wont the noctics we know from ffxv

Squood!

May 31, 2017 @ 11:55 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
if he does appear in the trailer he wont the noctics we know from ffxv
I know, but I just wanna see him in KH3.

Sephiroth0812

June 1, 2017 @ 07:10 amOffline

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I'm literally trying not to laugh at the screaming for story trailers because I most likely already know how this will play out.

Once the trailer is out for a week people will complain that SE again spoiled too much beforehand and/or that they got spoiled.

To avoid that, they should really completely ignore any deeper story stuff if they have learnt from the incidents they had with both BBS and DDD trailers.

Chaser

June 1, 2017 @ 07:25 amOffline

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Sephiroth0812
I'm literally trying not to laugh at the screaming for story trailers because I most likely already know how this will play out.

Once the trailer is out for a week people will complain that SE again spoiled too much beforehand and/or that they got spoiled.

To avoid that, they should really completely ignore any deeper story stuff if they have learnt from the incidents they had with both BBS and DDD trailers.

They've barely shown the plot for 3 so if they put out a trailer in two weeks which spoil too much of the "deeper story stuff" then we have a different major problem to deal with.

Squood!

June 1, 2017 @ 10:31 amOffline

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For some reason I want Jack Sparrow to take part in the plot if a PotC world gets in. Maybe because I'm watching At World's End right now and I want more Jack. Jack Sparrow, Jack Skellington, Samurai Jack, Jack Black, Jack Bauer. All the Jack.



i think I need to sleep a bit.

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gibbs615

June 2, 2017 @ 03:39 amOffline

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As I said before I want to see Elena of Avalor in this too!

Silver_Soul

June 2, 2017 @ 04:25 amOffline

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gibbs615
As I said before I want to see Elena of Avalor in this too!


I think this is very unlikely. Maybe a reference or something small at most.

Squood!

June 3, 2017 @ 01:53 pmOffline

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Ten days till Sony's E3 conference. OwO

Grizzly

June 3, 2017 @ 04:17 pmOffline

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While I think seeing KH3 at E3 this year is a given, it's wise to manage expectations. The game is still a ways out and we have at least one TGS, if not two, and likely another E3 before the game releases. SE loves their trailers, so we'll definitely get something, and while I would love to see gameplay on a new world, I wouldn't be shocked if we just got a CGI trailer instead.

This is an incredibly important game for Square Enix, so we're bound to see their big marketing push coming soon, but with so many trade shows left before release, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get a ton of details in terms of gameplay and new world reveals. If we do see a new world though, I would expect it to be Frozen. I bet we'll also get a release window/year, such as Late 2018 or just Coming 2019.

I'd love to actually see gameplay in San Fransokyo. I want to see what that world looks like, I want to see how drive forms, key blade transformations, and attraction flow work in greater detail. I want to see how movement works in the game. I'd also love to see something like a Moana world, but again, I don't really think it's fair to expect any of that just yet.

gosoxtim

June 3, 2017 @ 04:36 pmOffline

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i do believe it late game in 2018 espicallly with ff7r stuff being internal now that game is most lily going to be a 2019-2020 game and how they want to release a game within the 2018-2020 time range it would make most sense kh3 to be the game coming out in 2018 besise disney and square want this game out sooner or later so they can promte thi game and dont forget we also d23 in july as well

Launchpad

June 3, 2017 @ 07:44 pmOffline

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if they can put together a well-cut trailer showcasing some smart mechanics and tight gameplay, they can hold out on specific details as long as they want. Show me that the game will be good, and let me be surprised by what's actually in it.

Alpha Baymax

June 3, 2017 @ 09:47 pmOffline

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I just want to see new Kingdom Hearts III at this point. Is that too low of an expectation for me? because the wait for Square Enix's panel is really killing me right now...

Squood!

June 4, 2017 @ 12:02 amOffline

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Launchpad
if they can put together a well-cut trailer showcasing some smart mechanics and tight gameplay, they can hold out on specific details as long as they want. Show me that the game will be good, and let me be surprised by what's actually in it.

I wanna see more of the Big Bang Attack style Shotlock so I can have a better look at it. I need to be sure if it's the keyblade doing it or Sora quite literally shooting something out of his hand using the keyblade as a component for it.

Chaser

June 4, 2017 @ 12:44 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
I wanna see more of the Big Bang Attack style Shotlock so I can have a better look at it. I need to be sure if it's the keyblade doing it or Sora quite literally shooting something out of his hand using the keyblade as a component for it.

Considering the Keyblade is to the side of Sora's hand and not pointing at the Heartless, I'd have to say he's blasting it out of his hands:







Alternative is the blast is coming out of the Keychain itself.

Squood!

June 4, 2017 @ 01:54 amOffline

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Chaser
Considering the Keyblade is to the side of Sora's hand and not pointing at the Heartless, I'd have to say he's blasting it out of his hands:Alternative is the blast is coming out of the Keychain itself.
Oh god it looks so cool. Since the blast does seem to be coming from his hand, I wonder how he learned how to do that.Find out next time on DRAGON BALL Z!

FudgemintGuardian

June 4, 2017 @ 02:04 pmOffline

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Chaser
Considering the Keyblade is to the side of Sora's hand and not pointing at the Heartless, I'd have to say he's blasting it out of his hands:







Alternative is the blast is coming out of the Keychain itself.
After watching the footage again, what happens is the Keyblade creates the sparkle beams by spinning in front of Sora, then Sora fires them by exploding his hand.

Bobjam

June 5, 2017 @ 04:02 pmOffline

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[FONT="]Layden says the Japanese publishers are also coming back, listing off recent games like [/FONT]

Resident Evil 7

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Nioh

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Nier: Automata

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Persona 5

[FONT="] and [/FONT]

Final Fantasy XV

[FONT="] as examples. "That's super important for us," he says. "I think a lot of Japanese developers lost their way chasing the mobile games yen, if you will, but they're coming back to console in a major way. And speaking of, we'll have some big announcements at E3 in that precise vein."[/FONT]




This was from an interview with Shawn Layden with Time magazine published today regarding the state and future of Playstation and found this interesting tibit regarding E3. Clearly, this confirms nothing but I am really excited now about the prospect of Japanese AAA games getting some love at the conference rather than in separate announcements.

I think it is fair to say at this point that if Nomura doesn't come to the KH concerts this weekend with something then we should reasonably expect something at either Sony's conference or maybe the E3 youtube stream with Geoff seeing as Square has been confirmed for presentations through that. Of course, they could just do what they did last year and release a trailer/teaser online early.

Not long to go now!


Link to the article in question here: Sony PlayStation 4 Nears 60 Million Sold As E3 Looms | Time.com

Squood!

June 5, 2017 @ 07:23 pmOffline

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Bobjam
This was from an interview with Shawn Layden with Time magazine published today regarding the state and future of Playstation and found this interesting tibit regarding E3. Clearly, this confirms nothing but I am really excited now about the prospect of Japanese AAA games getting some love at the conference rather than in separate announcements.

I think it is fair to say at this point that if Nomura doesn't come to the KH concerts this weekend with something then we should reasonably expect something at either Sony's conference or maybe the E3 youtube stream with Geoff seeing as Square has been confirmed for presentations through that. Of course, they could just do what they did last year and release a trailer/teaser online early.

Not long to go now!


Link to the article in question here: Sony PlayStation 4 Nears 60 Million Sold As E3 Looms | Time.com

I kinda hope you're right, but I'm also skeptical, yet I don't know how to say it. I'd like to have hope that KH3 might show up, hell I'd like everyone to have some hope for it, but then again if that happens and KH3 DOESN'T show up then....well you get the idea.


As for Nomura, he could show up at both the June 11th concert and the Sony Conference, or he won't appear at all simply due to work. Life works in strange ways, after all...

Bobjam

June 5, 2017 @ 07:35 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
I kinda hope you're right, but I'm also skeptical, yet I don't know how to say it. I'd like to have hope that KH3 might show up, hell I'd like everyone to have some hope for it, but then again if that happens and KH3 DOESN'T show up then....well you get the idea.


As for Nomura, he could show up at both the June 11th concert and the Sony Conference, or he won't appear at all simply due to work. Life works in strange ways, after all...


In my personal opinion, it will 100x more a shock to me if Kingdom Hearts doesn't have any presence whatsoever at this E3 than if it does. I think as well, considering where the series is now and the timings, it would be borderline crazy for Square Enix not to take advantage of the E3/Sony hype platform this time around to get ball rolling for a game they know we have hardly seen anything of as of late. That doesn't mean we will get a 5 minute + trailer for it, but I really do think we are seeing it come a weeks time.

Squood!

June 5, 2017 @ 07:59 pmOffline

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Bobjam
In my personal opinion, it will 100x more a shock to me if Kingdom Hearts doesn't have any presence whatsoever at this E3 than if it does. I think as well, considering where the series is now and the timings, it would be borderline crazy for Square Enix not to take advantage of the E3/Sony hype platform this time around to get ball rolling for a game they know we have hardly seen anything of as of late. That doesn't mean we will get a 5 minute + trailer for it, but I really do think we are seeing it come a weeks time.

Ya know what we also need to see? Devil May Cry 5.

Grizzly

June 5, 2017 @ 08:15 pmOffline

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Bobjam
This was from an interview with Shawn Layden with Time magazine published today regarding the state and future of Playstation and found this interesting tibit regarding E3. Clearly, this confirms nothing but I am really excited now about the prospect of Japanese AAA games getting some love at the conference rather than in separate announcements.

I think it is fair to say at this point that if Nomura doesn't come to the KH concerts this weekend with something then we should reasonably expect something at either Sony's conference or maybe the E3 youtube stream with Geoff seeing as Square has been confirmed for presentations through that. Of course, they could just do what they did last year and release a trailer/teaser online early.

Not long to go now!


Link to the article in question here: Sony PlayStation 4 Nears 60 Million Sold As E3 Looms | Time.com


No chance we see something new at the panel with Geoff. I think it'll be more akin to what news sites do, like showing extended gameplay demos of small titles or titles previously announced. The only way we'd see KH3 outside of a conference is in an announcement outside of E3 altogether. That said, I think you'll see a trailer during Sony's conference. You won't see Nomura himself at Sony's conference, as Sony already confirmed that the conference will be primarily video and software based like last year.

Game is still a ways off so I wouldn't expect some huge blown out trailer or special announcement. A small teaser or gameplay demo is likely, with a release year at most. While I think it'll be there, I wouldn't be floored if it didn't show up at all.

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notnow123487

June 5, 2017 @ 09:16 pmOffline

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Someone on gaf today:

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[FONT=Helvetica]Don't expect much from FFVII. My source said fans are going to be pretty disappointed with that and KH3."

I think the game will get a small small trailer or be a no show and this e3 will finally be the year the real meltdowns begin to start as people finally realize that this game has had a really troubled development just like versus. [/FONT]

VoidGear.

June 5, 2017 @ 09:20 pmOffline

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notnow123487
Someone on gaf today:

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[FONT=Helvetica]Don't expect much from FFVII. My source said fans are going to be pretty disappointed with that and KH3."
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Amazing.
I am sorry, but I absolutely love these 50/50 statements. Like, come on, maybe it will be disappointing, in which case these people will feel like god, or it won't, in which they'll say "waoooowiiiieee SE kept that secret".
Anyone could make such a statement and suddenly be some sort of saint if it came true.

Grizzly

June 5, 2017 @ 09:28 pmOffline

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notnow123487
Someone on gaf today:

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[FONT=Helvetica]Don't expect much from FFVII. My source said fans are going to be pretty disappointed with that and KH3."

I think the game will get a small small trailer or be a no show and this e3 will finally be the year the real meltdowns begin to start as people finally realize that this game has had a really troubled development just like versus. [/FONT]



If this is referring to E3, then of course fans can be disappointed, especially if the games don't show. Anyone who thinks FF7R will be shown at E3 this year is being incredibly too hopeful, it has no chance in the world of being there. KH3 is a 50/50 shot of showing up too, and if it's not there it didn't exactly take an expert to predict it (I still think we'll see it though).

Also, who is the leaker? Are they credible with past leaks? Do we know what company their source even comes from? It's hardly legitimate.

EDIT: The only games confirmed to be at the show by Sony currently are:

[LIST]
[*]God of War
[*]Spider-Man
[*]Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
[*]Days Gone
[*]Gran Turismo Sport
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It is safe to assume Destiny 2 and Call of Duty will be there as well.

Squood!

June 5, 2017 @ 09:35 pmOffline

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notnow123487
Someone on gaf today:

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[FONT=Helvetica]Don't expect much from FFVII. My source said fans are going to be pretty disappointed with that and KH3."

I think the game will get a small small trailer or be a no show and this e3 will finally be the year the real meltdowns begin to start as people finally realize that this game has had a really troubled development just like versus. [/FONT]


Ugh, I hate leaks. They get me paranoid.

Pestilence

June 5, 2017 @ 09:42 pmOffline

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If the game failed to show up at E3 after the whole Winter Announcement farse, selling a prologue for the game at full price (admittedly with a mediocre KH game and a pointless movie bundled) AND being 4 years after announcement, well, yes it would be just a itty bit concerning.

Grizzly

June 5, 2017 @ 09:49 pmOffline

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I don't see how it is a problem if the game isn't shown at E3 though. If the game isn't ready to be shown, why should it be shown? Sure, you could draw into concern the game's development, but we have absolutely no idea as to the game's progress. The marketing campaign for games has been getting shorter and shorter. I would much rather not be led on for year with a trailer each year, and instead be shown more concrete and in depth information leading up to release.

They announced the game before it started development to show fans that it existed. They wanted fans to know that it was the next step for them, and they showed it again in 2015 to simply show that development had started and that the game was indeed real. While maybe not the best marketing strategy, they wanted fans to know that their wait for the game since 2005/06 was slowly coming to a close, not that the game was anywhere near fully playable or close to being finished.

If the game is ready, they'll show it. If not, fans should rest easy that the developers are instead using resources to make the game, not make yet another trailer that tells us almost nothing.

As far as the winter announcement goes, it essentially didn't happen because FFXV got delayed and placed in that spot. Then it came time to push 2.8 and 1.5+2.5, so showing KH3 would have overshadowed the marketing for those titles. When they show it could very well depend on what games they still have to market and release.

Pestilence

June 5, 2017 @ 09:55 pmOffline

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Grizzly
I don't see how it is a problem if the game isn't shown at E3 though. If the game isn't ready to be shown, why should it be shown? Sure, you could draw into concern the game's development, but we have absolutely no idea as to the game's progress. The marketing campaign for games has been getting shorter and shorter. I would much rather not be led on for year with a trailer each year, and instead be shown more concrete and in depth information leading up to release.

They announced the game before it started development to show fans that it existed. They wanted fans to know that it was the next step for them, and they showed it again in 2015 to simply show that development had started and that the game was indeed real. While maybe not the best marketing strategy, they wanted fans to know that their wait for the game since 2005/06 was slowly coming to a close, not that the game was anywhere near fully playable or close to being finished.

If the game is ready, they'll show it. If not, fans should rest easy that the developers are instead using resources to make the game, not make yet another trailer that tells us almost nothing.

As far as the winter announcement goes, it essentially didn't happen because FFXV got delayed and placed in that spot. Then it came time to push 2.8 and 1.5+2.5, so showing KH3 would have overshadowed the marketing for those titles. When they show it could very well depend on what games they still have to market and release.


Kingdom Hearts has been present at E3 for the past 5 years and NOW is the year you take off when you have promised to share more information, both at ''winter'' and 2017 in general? It would be just a little bit weird. And it's the anniversary year to boot.

Squood!

June 5, 2017 @ 09:56 pmOffline

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Grizzly
If the game is ready, they'll show it. If not, fans should rest easy that the developers are instead using resources to make the game, not make yet another trailer that tells us almost nothing.
OR they'll get mad and scream about how it's never coming out and that they waited 10 years and are now graduating college.

Grizzly

June 5, 2017 @ 10:09 pmOffline

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Pestilence
Kingdom Hearts has been present at E3 for the past 5 years and NOW is the year you take off when you have promised to share more information, both at ''winter'' and 2017 in general? It would be just a little bit weird. And it's the anniversary year to boot.


It hasn't been present for the past 5 years. There's only been 4 E3s since it was announced, and it was only present in 2013, 2014, and 2015. It did not make an appearance last year at E3. I already said why it didn't come out in Winter 2017, which could actually still happen, since winter begins on Thursday, December 21, 2017. Fans got the 1.5+2.5 collection for the anniversary gift, and if the game doesn't show at E3 that doesn't mean it won't show at all. We could see it at Jump Festa, where we've seen it before, or TGS.

KeybladeLordSora
OR they'll get mad and scream about how it's never coming out and that they waited 10 years and are now graduating college.


Showing the game now won't change when it releases though. Square Enix probably doesn't care about those angry fans anyway in a ll honesty because they'll probably buy the game regardless.

Squood!

June 5, 2017 @ 10:19 pmOffline

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Grizzly
Showing the game now won't change when it releases though. Square Enix probably doesn't care about those angry fans anyway in a ll honesty because they'll probably buy the game regardless.

I'm sorry, it's just leaks like this always make me feel sick and paranoid. I hope it's proven wrong and KH3 has a good showing at E3, because I don't think I can take more of the same complaints.

Grizzly

June 5, 2017 @ 10:22 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
I'm sorry, it's just leaks like this always make me feel sick and paranoid. I hope it's proven wrong and KH3 has a good showing at E3, because I don't think I can take more of the same complaints.


No worries. I wouldn't worry about what other people say so long as you enjoy it. I hope KH3 is at E3 too, but won't be surprised if it isn't.

I say just watch E3 and enjoy it for all of the games. It's my favorite time of the year and there's going to be so much cool software there. KH3 would be icing on the cake, but if it doesn't show, that means we'll just get to see it later. I don't even get the complaints myself. SE shouldn't have announced so early, but it doesn't make the game bad.

Squood!

June 5, 2017 @ 10:30 pmOffline

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Now that I think about it, it's possible that so called leak could just be predictions and opinions disguised as a leak. No one on the GAF thread even bothered asking about the leaker's source either aside from that one guy wondering what they said about the possibility of DMC 5, which the leaker replied that they didn't know, but they'll tell them all about SE's lineup. Oddly convenient that it's SE specifically.

Pestilence

June 5, 2017 @ 10:34 pmOffline

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Grizzly
It hasn't been present for the past 5 years. There's only been 4 E3s since it was announced, and it was only present in 2013, 2014, and 2015. It did not make an appearance last year at E3. I already said why it didn't come out in Winter 2017, which could actually still happen, since winter begins on Thursday, December 21, 2017. Fans got the 1.5+2.5 collection for the anniversary gift, and if the game doesn't show at E3 that doesn't mean it won't show at all. We could see it at Jump Festa, where we've seen it before, or TGS.

I mean Kingdom Hearts as a franchise, not KH3. In fact 2011 is the only year I remember where they had nothing to show or tell at E3 after the series was widely expanded.

Let's assume they have nothing to show for KH3 this year, not really much you can do about it but the classy way to deal with it is to tell your fans, just like Insomniac did with Spider-Man at PSX and Shenmue 3 guys at this years E3 (and many, many other developers and games across multiple events including Square announcing they wouldn't show FFXV at E3 2015).

Fans expect KH3 at the event and there is every reason to, if you cannot deliver just say so in advance to lessen the blow and explain your position. Worst thing they could do is just keep quiet and nothing happening.

Here's hoping they do have something however.

Bobjam

June 5, 2017 @ 10:35 pmOffline

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Grizzly
No chance we see something new at the panel with Geoff. I think it'll be more akin to what news sites do, like showing extended gameplay demos of small titles or titles previously announced. The only way we'd see KH3 outside of a conference is in an announcement outside of E3 altogether. That said, I think you'll see a trailer during Sony's conference. You won't see Nomura himself at Sony's conference, as Sony already confirmed that the conference will be primarily video and software based like last year.

Game is still a ways off so I wouldn't expect some huge blown out trailer or special announcement. A small teaser or gameplay demo is likely, with a release year at most. While I think it'll be there, I wouldn't be floored if it didn't show up at all.


Even though it is video only, Square could pull an E3 2013 and have another pre-recorded video message with Nomura there doing another two pronged segment for updates on both KH3 and VIIRe. Can definitely see that happening again. I am prepared for it not to be there as there are so many other games to keep an eye on but it really will be strange if Square/Nomura turn up empty handed with this one.

Grizzly

June 5, 2017 @ 10:37 pmOffline

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Bobjam
Even though it is video only, Square could pull an E3 2013 and have another pre-recorded video message with Nomura there doing another two pronged segment for updates on both KH3 and VIIRe. Can definitely see that happening again. I am prepared for it not to be there as there are so many other games to keep an eye on but it really will be strange if Square/Nomura turn up empty handed with this one.


I agree to an extent. I wouldn't be surprised that if KH3 is shown, we see another one of those videos with Nomura. I don't think there's a chance we see it paired with VIIR though. The game just lost its developer and director and is probably going through some major changes. They wouldn't have even had time to build anything new to show.

Bobjam

June 5, 2017 @ 10:58 pmOffline

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Grizzly
I agree to an extent. I wouldn't be surprised that if KH3 is shown, we see another one of those videos with Nomura. I don't think there's a chance we see it paired with VIIR though. The game just lost its developer and director and is probably going through some major changes. They wouldn't have even had time to build anything new to show.


That's true regarding VIIR although you say lost it's director? I know it is being developed internally now but Nomura is still the director of that game no? I also think that due to the ever changing nature of game development and what-not, what ever Nomura was saying in interviews back in January of this year about KH3 still being 'ways off' along with VIIR, could become irrelevant IF they have made better progress this year and are hitting more targets. When ever we get to see the next trailer, I think it's going to make the E3 2015 stuff look...surprisingly out-dated maybe. It certainly happened with me when I then compared 2015 to the pre-rendered stuff from D23 2013.

Lets see those improved character models Nomura-san now eh?

Grizzly

June 5, 2017 @ 11:13 pmOffline

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That's true regarding VIIR although you say lost it's director? I know it is being developed internally now but Nomura is still the director of that game no? I also think that due to the ever changing nature of game development and what-not, what ever Nomura was saying in interviews back in January of this year about KH3 still being 'ways off' along with VIIR, could become irrelevant IF they have made better progress this year and are hitting more targets. When ever we get to see the next trailer, I think it's going to make the E3 2015 stuff look...surprisingly out-dated maybe. It certainly happened with me when I then compared 2015 to the pre-rendered stuff from D23 2013.

Lets see those improved character models Nomura-san now eh?


You are actually correct, Nomura is still attached, I misspoke. Regardless, losing a developer can cause who knows how many changes. Plus, I think FFVIIR is farther away than KH3, so why even show it? I don't know that new character models, or even a new trailer for the game is quite enough to give it leverage when compared to other games Sony is showing. Of course the game will be huge, but how many games does Sony want to show that won't be out for years still? Dreams? KH3? Death Stranding? All those games are probably closer than FFVIIR, and for the time being are incredibly more important in regards to sales for Sony, which is really what E3 is about.

Bobjam

June 5, 2017 @ 11:31 pmOffline

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Grizzly
You are actually correct, Nomura is still attached, I misspoke. Regardless, losing a developer can cause who knows how many changes. Plus, I think FFVIIR is farther away than KH3, so why even show it? I don't know that new character models, or even a new trailer for the game is quite enough to give it leverage when compared to other games Sony is showing. Of course the game will be huge, but how many games does Sony want to show that won't be out for years still? Dreams? KH3? Death Stranding? All those games are probably closer than FFVIIR, and for the time being are incredibly more important in regards to sales for Sony, which is really what E3 is about.


Oh I wasn't talking about VIIR in regards to new character models and great progress. That was for KH3 ^^ I completely agree that VIIR at this stage is way way less likely to turn up now considering its predicament. Hell, I would be shocked if that did turn up. KH3 on the other hand I think they do at this point have things to show. It's just a question of whether Square thinks it is a good time, Nomura is satisfied or if they are waiting till a later date to kick off the marketing cycle. Because that's probably one of the worries at this point; if they show something substantial of the game, then they have to decided when do they start marketing the game to release. They would only want to do that if the game's release date was locked and public knowledge.

I mean...look what happened with FFXV >< it had it's release date announced for a then 6 month marketing cycle and then it goes and gets delayed which slowed things down a little and made people a little wary of the game (rightly so) hope that doesn't happen again here!

Grizzly

June 5, 2017 @ 11:42 pmOffline

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Oh I wasn't talking about VIIR in regards to new character models and great progress. That was for KH3 ^^ I completely agree that VIIR at this stage is way way less likely to turn up now considering its predicament. Hell, I would be shocked if that did turn up. KH3 on the other hand I think they do at this point have things to show. It's just a question of whether Square thinks it is a good time, Nomura is satisfied or if they are waiting till a later date to kick off the marketing cycle. Because that's probably one of the worries at this point; if they show something substantial of the game, then they have to decided when do they start marketing the game to release. They would only want to do that if the game's release date was locked and public knowledge.

I mean...look what happened with FFXV >< it had it's release date announced for a then 6 month marketing cycle and then it goes and gets delayed which slowed things down a little and made people a little wary of the game (rightly so) hope that doesn't happen again here!


Ohhh I understand what you're saying. I completely agree. I think even with a short presentation or demo SE could actually show off a lot of stuff in regards to the game. I think it'll depend on how far off the game is and whether or not they wish to show it at one of the Japanese trade shows. I would definitely prefer Square to go heavy handed on the marketing closer to launch than trickle information slowly over the course of who knows how long, so I hope whenever it is shown, whether it be E3 or not, they have enough to show to back it up down the road, or whatever they would have shown at E3 would lose some of its significance.

I also agree with you that SE needs to be careful on the marketing cycle for this as well. It needs to be tight and well planned. I certainly don't think they adapted well when it came to FFXV's delay.

Bobjam

June 5, 2017 @ 11:55 pmOffline

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Grizzly
Ohhh I understand what you're saying. I completely agree. I think even with a short presentation or demo SE could actually show off a lot of stuff in regards to the game. I think it'll depend on how far off the game is and whether or not they wish to show it at one of the Japanese trade shows. I would definitely prefer Square to go heavy handed on the marketing closer to launch than trickle information slowly over the course of who knows how long, so I hope whenever it is shown, whether it be E3 or not, they have enough to show to back it up down the road, or whatever they would have shown at E3 would lose some of its significance.

I also agree with you that SE needs to be careful on the marketing cycle for this as well. It needs to be tight and well planned. I certainly don't think they adapted well when it came to FFXV's delay.


The optimist in me thinks that KH3 will be ready to go this fiscal year. I.e. if development keeps moving 'smoothly' and according to plan for the rest of this year, the game will release no later then the end of March 2018 (To be more specific, let's say Friday 30th March Worldwide).

That would mean therefore that although that is potentially not too far away, does that mean Square want to really kick things off next week. I think they do but it's a question of whether they are planning to do what FFXV did and do an exhaustive round trip to all the upcoming summer and fall expos ending with Jump in December by which point I think we should expect for the exact release date to be public knowledge.

This is all hypothetical and at this point in time, almost pipe-dream level stuff, but I don't think it is out of the question to assume (according to what little we do know about the game and those interesting financial slides for the future of the company) that Square knows for sure now what date they want to hit and that with the their winter line up for this year Currently looking sparse, that maybe they would want KH3 in there as their end of financial year AAA release to make the bookies and fans happy all at once.

Unless of course....they think something like Dragon Quest XI or a potential Dissidia PS4 will be enough.

I personally don't think it would!

Chaser

June 6, 2017 @ 01:09 amOffline

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Grizzly
Plus, I think FFVIIR is farther away than KH3, so why even show it?

Nomura wanted to show off a trailer or gameplay clip (I believe it would have been focused on the first boss?) from the game in February at that MAGIC conference but the higher ups denied the request.

Mid-edit: is the first boss in the game,” Nomura continued. “It’s a Scorpion, and the scenery will be partly destructible. Sorry, I asked to show a video, but the company refused. The menus are not yet final, but I will talk more on another occasion.”[/URL]

If he was ready to show that, then he's sure as hell ready to show a 2 minute trailer that can focus on things like the slums, Aerith, Tifa, and infiltrating Shinra.

Face My Fears

June 6, 2017 @ 02:57 amOffline

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Chaser
Advanced fish face was in 0.2, it will be in 3.


Was there really fish face in 0.2? I didn't even notice!

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June 6, 2017 @ 03:00 amOffline

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EeL
Was there really fish face in 0.2? I didn't even notice!

watch yen sid in 2.9 it is really noticeable.

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June 6, 2017 @ 03:04 amOffline

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Audo
watch yen sid in 2.9 it is really noticeable.

And Aqua as well when she first enters Enchanted Dominion and says "Terra! Ven!".

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notnow123487

June 7, 2017 @ 03:10 pmOffline

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The guy on gaf that said KH3 fans would be disappointed predicted Dissidia. Worrying intensifies. Bring on the meltdowns.



[FONT=Helvetica]Not sure what of these will be announced by Sony (I think all Square, but yeah!)[/FONT]



[FONT=Helvetica]USA release date for DQXI.[/FONT]


[FONT=Helvetica]FFVII/KH3 won't have much to say about[/FONT]


[FONT=Helvetica]Dissidia: Final Fantasy to console[/FONT]


[FONT=Helvetica]Avengers Marvel project with Square. New trailer, name reveal and a hint at others that will be released later on.[/FONT]



[FONT=Helvetica]For E3 attendees, FF14 Stormblood section for the players. Naoki Yoshida will be there and players can do some dungeon challenges for a free shirt.[/FONT]


gosoxtim

June 7, 2017 @ 03:27 pmOffline

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notnow123487
The guy on gaf that said KH3 fans would be disappointed predicted Dissidia. Worrying intensifies. Bring on the meltdowns.
relax kh might abother event nomura said on the stream he wont be at e3 but will be another event so more then likely we get the kh3 stuff at one of the concerts

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June 7, 2017 @ 03:36 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
relax kh might abother event nomura said on the stream he wont be at e3 but will be another event so more then likely we get the kh3 stuff at one of the concerts


Because skipping the biggest event in gaming and opting to release a trailer where only a small fraction of KH fans and press will be at is better for PR.

gosoxtim

June 7, 2017 @ 03:43 pmOffline

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Silver_Soul
Because skipping the biggest event in gaming and opting to release a trailer where only a small fraction of KH fans and press will be at is better for PR.
they could realse that trailer onelie at e3 besides i pretty sure think tai yasue going to attend e3 as well

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June 7, 2017 @ 03:44 pmOffline

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notnow123487
The guy on gaf that said KH3 fans would be disappointed predicted Dissidia. Worrying intensifies. Bring on the meltdowns.

Don't believe it for a second. Just wait for the actual event.

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notnow123487

June 7, 2017 @ 03:44 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
relax kh might abother event nomura said on the stream he wont be at e3 but will be another event so more then likely we get the kh3 stuff at one of the concerts


You can deny it all you want, but missing 2 e3s in a row is a big deal and would give some insight into a games troubled development.

gosoxtim

June 7, 2017 @ 03:53 pmOffline

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notnow123487
You can deny it all you want, but missing 2 e3s in a row is a big deal and would give some insight into a games troubled development.
what are you talking about first all he said sqaure marvel game would be there when it allready annpced no news unti l next year second of how does missing two e3 detmine the delopment of a game?

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notnow123487

June 7, 2017 @ 03:55 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
they could realse that trailer onelie at e3 besides i pretty sure think tai yasue going to attend e3 as well


The whole guys prediction is about the game not really having an e3 showing. If he's real, that means we're not really getting anything over the next couple weeks, it wouldn't just pop up online.

gosoxtim
what are you talking about first all he said sqaure marvel game would be there when it allready annpced no news unti l next year second of how does missing two e3 detmine the delopment of a game?


I didn't say it determines it. It gives insight into the progress it's making it. Do you really think missing two e3s in a row wouldn't be troubling as to the speed at which the games progressing?

gosoxtim

June 7, 2017 @ 03:59 pmOffline

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notnow123487
The whole guys prediction is about the game not really having an e3 showing. If he's real, that means we're not really getting anything over the next couple weeks, it wouldn't just pop up online.
what doesnt it make sense either becuase dissidia is going to be there and have a panel as well at e3 plus there going to demo of dissidia so yoeah that person predtion is wrong i do think we get someting on the 10th plus a e3 trailer as well

notnow123487
I didn't say it determines it. It gives insight into the progress it's making it. Do you really think missing two e3s in a row wouldn't be troubling as to the speed at which the games progressing?
no not really i seen games with missing more then e3 appeacnes they turn out fine plus kh3 is not just the only big game that missed two e3 as well look at shemune 3

please don't double post

Silver_Soul

June 7, 2017 @ 04:05 pmOffline

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Pardon my negativity. I would love to see KH3 at E3, but I don't want to get my heart broken :( haha.

gosoxtim

June 7, 2017 @ 04:09 pmOffline

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Silver_Soul
Pardon my negativity. I would love to see KH3 at E3, but I don't want to get my heart broken :( haha.
i undertand all i'm saying that kh3 could still be there nomura doesnt have to every event he not the only director working on the game

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notnow123487

June 7, 2017 @ 04:44 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
what doesnt it make sense either becuase dissidia is going to be there and have a panel as well at e3 plus there going to demo of dissidia so yoeah that person predtion is wrong i do think we get someting on the 10th plus a e3 trailer as well

no not really i seen games with missing more then e3 appeacnes they turn out fine plus kh3 is not just the only big game that missed two e3 as well look at shemune 3

please don't double post


Not saying anything about how the game will turnout in the end, just the speed at which we're getting to the point where the game is finished and ready to go. Shenmue 3 is just another example that bolsters my point lol, another game that is years away.

gosoxtim

June 7, 2017 @ 05:09 pmOffline

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notnow123487
Not saying anything about how the game will turnout in the end, just the speed at which we're getting to the point where the game is finished and ready to go. Shenmue 3 is just another example that bolsters my point lol, another game that is years away.
so you saying that if a game shows up at e3 that mean game is going smothly while game they dont show up at e3 is not going smothly yeah im not buting that game that do show up at e3 could still not being going smothy look at mass effect andormed on how that turn up list just game that dont turn up at e3 doesnt mean things are going smothly

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The Dead Skin

June 7, 2017 @ 06:16 pmOffline

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i know there'll be a Star Wars Battlefront II trailer. we already know of the game's narrative and continuity aspects, and now i think it's time EA/DICE showed off some gameplay, really

that's about it, haha. i really don't go in expecting too much

Pestilence

June 7, 2017 @ 07:01 pmOffline

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no not really i seen games with missing more then e3 appeacnes they turn out fine plus kh3 is not just the only big game that missed two e3 as well look at shemune 3



Yes, the kickstarter project that was announced 2 years after Kingdom Hearts 3. Also they had the decency of announcing they won't be attending E3 (as did Nomura's brother in announcing games too early: Hideo Kojima with Death Stranding skipping E3).

This is what Nomura's projects are compared to now?

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June 7, 2017 @ 07:13 pmOffline

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honestly, kh3 skipping e3/e3 week (as in, not even putting out a trailer) would indeed be worrisome, especially for a game 4-5 years in development whose last major showing was two years ago, and has no other title in the series to promote.

Alpha Baymax

June 7, 2017 @ 08:02 pmOffline

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Silver_Soul
Because skipping the biggest event in gaming and opting to release a trailer where only a small fraction of KH fans and press will be at is better for PR.


Actually, come to think about it, the new Kingdom Hearts III trailer may end up debuing in the Orchestra event. Not only does it still fall in line with the days of E3, but Square Enix can just upload the trailer to YouTube. At this point, people don't care about the distribution of the trailer, they just want to see new content!

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ultima-demi

June 7, 2017 @ 08:28 pmOffline

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Even if KH3 doesn't appear at E3,there's still multiple other places to look forward to it possibility appearing.

Just how i see things now.

VoidGear.

June 7, 2017 @ 09:22 pmOffline

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I can't imagine Square to completely disregard KH3 either. Just wouldn't bet that there's a lot more than a trailer coming.

Nazo

June 7, 2017 @ 09:32 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
Actually, come to think about it, the new Kingdom Hearts III trailer may end up debuing in the Orchestra event. Not only does it still fall in line with the days of E3, but Square Enix can just upload the trailer to YouTube. At this point, people don't care about the distribution of the trailer, they just want to see new content!


Yes, this is my thinking as well. The timing of the Orchestra being a dedicated KH event that takes place during E3, they may use it as a treat to debut for the LA showing, since it's the very first USA concert, and then maybe play it at all the other concerts afterwards as well.

Because, looking at E3 itself, it doesn't look like a trailer is going to come from there. Nomura isn't attending, neither of Square's Coliseum panels are KH related (first one is Dissidia, second is a game that will be announced at the show), and Square Enix Presents' livestream schedule shows a complete lack of anything to do with KH. So, I'm beginning to lose hope that E3 will give us anything, but perhaps we'll get a surprise trailer drop as a celebration of the Orchestra and to coincide with it being E3 week.

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June 7, 2017 @ 09:58 pmOffline

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Yes, this is my thinking as well. The timing of the Orchestra being a dedicated KH event that takes place during E3, they may use it as a treat to debut for the LA showing, since it's the very first USA concert, and then maybe play it at all the other concerts afterwards as well.

Because, looking at E3 itself, it doesn't look like a trailer is going to come from there. Nomura isn't attending, neither of Square's Coliseum panels are KH related (first one is Dissidia, second is a game that will be announced at the show), and Square Enix Presents' livestream schedule shows a complete lack of anything to do with KH. So, I'm beginning to lose hope that E3 will give us anything, but perhaps we'll get a surprise trailer drop as a celebration of the Orchestra and to coincide with it being E3 week.

I don't know, they could easily throw a trailer in the Sony conference. Or release one during the concerts. I'm pretty confident we're getting something related to 3 soon, with hopefully some more info besides a trailer only.

Bobjam

June 7, 2017 @ 10:29 pmOffline

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Square's silence on this either says a lot or nothing at all. This game could either be far along or still dwindling along steadily. This was the hilarious duality with Tabata and his constant updates and percentages of game completion with FFXV compared to now Nomura's: 'development is moving along' spiel.

If nothing happens this weekend then there will definitely be some things to think about if Square stay silent throughout E3 on this game. Not worried yet. Almost.

Squood!

June 7, 2017 @ 11:55 pmOffline

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I hope SOMETHING about KH3 shows up at the Orchestra or E3. If not, people are gonna ditch the game altogether and blame Nomura while I blame FFXV for just having to be delayed conveniently before 2.8's release instead of the middle of November.

The Dark Mamba

June 8, 2017 @ 12:29 amOffline

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KH3 hasn't even been on my radar lately because I've been brutally dissappointed the last 3 or so times I was hoping to see something KH3 related. Also trying to finish KH2FM on PS4 has been keeping my attention away. KH3 is still a myth to me. SE actually promoting the game would be weird.

If I had to guess something, basic story trailer showing off a few scenes (3 or 4) and gameplay we've seen from the relatively recent screenshots we've seen. As for new worlds, who the f#%k knows. I'd guess Agrabah, Toy Story or Jungle Book if there had to be something.

Launchpad

June 8, 2017 @ 01:11 amOffline

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in hindsight, 0.2's performance and general level of quality were quite disappointing. if SE can show a KH3 with a sturdy framerate and high animation quality, I will be quite happy.

SoulXaldin

June 8, 2017 @ 01:18 amOffline

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To be honest, I haven't paid much mind to KH lately. Been to lazy to actually go back to any of the games nor do I have much to say about it because I've been disconnected for so long. But if there's anything I want from KH3, it's something that enough to reinvigorate my interest. Alongside that, Papa Nomura must deliver my equipment stuff back. No more abilities. It might be minor, but it's important to meh!

Squood!

June 8, 2017 @ 01:22 amOffline

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So I translated a tweet from aibo, and that tweet was basically Nomura's "I'm not going to E3" statement. KH13 and Churro say that it says that he's going to another event, but when I translated it, unfortunately through Google translate and Bing translate, it did say that he was coming to the US, so yeah he's going to another event obviously, but both of the translations stuck out to me. Google's translation said that he was coming for a bad day, while the Bing translation had Nomura saying that he might have to get

ANGRY

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kingsoraful

June 8, 2017 @ 02:30 amOffline

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I would imagine we will get something for KH 3 in the Sony panel. That's what that person said that was right about FF 15. I imagine that there's no way the game won't be coming out next year. I don't see it being delayed till 2019 or 2020.

I would say a trailer and a release year in the trailer

Grizzly

June 8, 2017 @ 02:53 amOffline

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kingsoraful
I would imagine we will get something for KH 3 in the Sony panel. That's what that person said that was right about FF 15. I imagine that there's no way the game won't be coming out next year. I don't see it being delayed till 2019 or 2020.

I would say a trailer and a release year in the trailer


It isn't delayed if they never announced a release date.

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kingsoraful

June 8, 2017 @ 03:13 amOffline

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Grizzly
It isn't delayed if they never announced a release date.


You know what I mean. I don't expect it'll be released in 2020. That is not gonna happen. They're further along on this game then FFVII and the Marvel Project as well, doesn't even have a name.

I expect each year they'll release one of the three titles as their AAA thing. KH 3 will be next year. FFVII Remake will be 2019 and Marvel will be 2020.

I truly do believe we will get KH III at E3 this year and a release date, at the very least they will show the winter trailer they promised. It is unfortunate thouhg that if the game releases early next year then it won't get the big press at E3 it deserves but KH 3 is such a huge and anticipated title it doesn't really need the press to gather hype.

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notnow123487

June 8, 2017 @ 04:14 amOffline

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You know what I mean. I don't expect it'll be released in 2020. That is not gonna happen. They're further along on this game then FFVII and the Marvel Project as well, doesn't even have a name.

I expect each year they'll release one of the three titles as their AAA thing. KH 3 will be next year. FFVII Remake will be 2019 and Marvel will be 2020.

I truly do believe we will get KH III at E3 this year and a release date, at the very least they will show the winter trailer they promised. It is unfortunate thouhg that if the game releases early next year then it won't get the big press at E3 it deserves but KH 3 is such a huge and anticipated title it doesn't really need the press to gather hype.


If there's not a blowout about this game at e3 (maybe you could argue tgs), it's not coming out in the first six months of next year. We barely know anything about this game. That's just not how AAA promotion works. You're only two examples are fallout 4 and RDR2 and that's because Bethesda and rockstar can do whatever the hell they want. This is a Disney game and they're going to spend a metric ton to market it. They'll want to have like a new world announcement every month or two or something along those lines. And square enix is a company that loves showing off their games as soon as possible when they have something to show. Just the fact that we barely even know anything about this game and the fact that we could go another e3 with barely knowing anything about it should be worrisome to every fan.

gosoxtim

June 8, 2017 @ 04:37 amOffline

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notnow123487
If there's not a blowout about this game at e3 (maybe you could argue tgs), it's not coming out in the first six months of next year. We barely know anything about this game. That's just not how AAA promotion works. You're only two examples are fallout 4 and RDR2 and that's because Bethesda and rockstar can do whatever the hell they want. This is a Disney game and they're going to spend a metric ton to market it. They'll want to have like a new world announcement every month or two or something along those lines. And square enix is a company that loves showing off their games as soon as possible when they have something to show. Just the fact that we barely even know anything about this game and the fact that we could go another e3 with barely knowing anything about it should be worrisome to every fan.
i say let for e3 to get hereto see what going on okay we know anything yet all we know is that nomura wont be at e3 but will attend another event no where he said Kh3 wont be at 3

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kingsoraful

June 8, 2017 @ 04:39 amOffline

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...Disney barely marketed any of the other games. The only time they did was when it was near release and they aired commercials on TV and put spots on Youtube. The only place Disney marketed the franchise was D23.

I still think they will premiere something at E3 in the Sony show. Their could also be something at the concert venue which is Saturday and Sunday though I imagine Saturday as more likely because it'll be the opening in the USA.

However, I honestly do believe we will get the winter trailer that was promised at E3 just like Jose said and Jose leaked all the stuff about FF 15.

Here's the deal I do not see Square releasing more than one of these titles a year. It wouldn't be a smart business strategy. KH3 and FFVII remake are huge anticipated titles. They'll want each to get at least a year of being alone or standing out.

KH 3 will be their big title next year. It wouldn't shock me if it came out in Summer of next year so they can fully capitalize on E3 and bring demos and everything as we build up towards the release date.

gosoxtim
i say let for e3 to get hereto see what going on okay we know anything yet all we know is that nomura wont be at e3 but will attend another event no where he said Kh3 wont be at 3


Nomura not attending the event does not mean KH3 will not be at E3. He can just do a pre-recorded message like he did when KH3 was first revealed at E3 along with FF XV.

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notnow123487

June 8, 2017 @ 05:10 amOffline

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gosoxtim
i say let for e3 to get hereto see what going on okay we know anything yet all we know is that nomura wont be at e3 but will attend another event no where he said Kh3 wont be at 3


I agree, but everything we're talking about is speculation based on the fact the gaf guy got dissidia right. Doesn't mean anything but that's why I'm discussing it.
kingsoraful
...Disney barely marketed any of the other games. The only time they did was when it was near release and they aired commercials on TV and put spots on Youtube. The only place Disney marketed the franchise was D23.

I still think they will premiere something at E3 in the Sony show. Their could also be something at the concert venue which is Saturday and Sunday though I imagine Saturday as more likely because it'll be the opening in the USA.

However, I honestly do believe we will get the winter trailer that was promised at E3 just like Jose said and Jose leaked all the stuff about FF 15.

Here's the deal I do not see Square releasing more than one of these titles a year. It wouldn't be a smart business strategy. KH3 and FFVII remake are huge anticipated titles. They'll want each to get at least a year of being alone or standing out.

KH 3 will be their big title next year. It wouldn't shock me if it came out in Summer of next year so they can fully capitalize on E3 and bring demos and everything as we build up towards the release date.



Nomura not attending the event does not mean KH3 will not be at E3. He can just do a pre-recorded message like he did when KH3 was first revealed at E3 along with FF XV.


My comments aren't based on the nomura statement, it's based on the gaffer that said KH3 fans would be disappointed by e3 and he predicted dissidia. Speculation, but it's interesting to talk about what the consequences are if that guys telling the truth. There's not much else to talk about until the concert.

Disney isn't the same company they were twelve years ago. This is the first AAA KH game in twelve years, they're going to market it like crazy.

And it's not coming out next summer if the first time people get to play the game is a couple months beforehand at e3. That's just not how square or any game company does things. You have preview cycles, at least one but often more than one, months and months beforehand.

Also when has the words "smart business" and square enix been used in the same sentence. They're known to have the worst competency in the gaming industry. I think yes they are aiming to release only one of those games each year but internally theyll fail to pull that off. I think a year ago or whatever when nomura said they had an internal date, they had fall/holiday 2018 planned out and what there production schedule was working around. If it's not at e3 or tgs, I think that's likely changed and there's problems and it will be a 2019 game. I'm fine not discussing this if people don't want to since e3 hasn't even come yet but I think they're interesting hypotheticals and we have nothing else to really talk about.

Squood!

June 8, 2017 @ 06:18 amOffline

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Uh....anyone could've said "Dissidia for console will be at E3" and pretended that they leaked it. :T

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notnow123487

June 8, 2017 @ 06:33 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
Uh....anyone could've said "Dissidia for console will be at E3" and pretended that they leaked it. :T


Of course it doesn't prove anything, they could have just gotten lucky on one of their bullshit guesses. I wouldn't completely ignore it though. Honestly if he actually knows things, I think my guess is that we'll get a new trailer similar to the last one with locations we haven't seen (i.e. the mount Olympus screenshot and San fransokyo) and a cut scene or two, but then we get the dreaded "now in development" and that's what we'll be disappointed about.

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kingsoraful

June 8, 2017 @ 07:33 amOffline

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Plausible scenarios for trailer...

E3 Sony Conference - I think they would pair KH III trailer with a new Dissidia trailer. We'll get a release year, not a date. The VA whom plays Ansem suggested we won't get a release date. A release year though I think has a solid chance. Also the new Marvel game will be revealed with a title and everything.

Concert- More than likely it would be on Saturday when they would reveal a new trailer. As that's the first concert in USA.

I think when the release date is official they'll do some big event about just Kingdom Hearts III like they did for FF XV.

As for now our best chances for a trailer are on Saturday and also on Monday. Maybe they'll reveal something during the SE three day thing but I doubt that TBH. They may show the trailer they did during the Sony conference again.



My comments aren't based on the nomura statement, it's based on the gaffer that said KH3 fans would be disappointed by e3 and he predicted dissidia. Speculation, but it's interesting to talk about what the consequences are if that guys telling the truth. There's not much else to talk about until the concert.




No offense man but after the trailer drop this week, anyone could have predicted Dissidia being at E3. You didn't need a "leak" to tell you that. Why not believe Jose, he was right about everything in FF XV and he says KH 3 will have a presence at E3 this year.



Also when has the words "smart business" and square enix been used in the same sentence. They're known to have the worst competency in the gaming industry. I think yes they are aiming to release only one of those games each year but internally theyll fail to pull that off. I think a year ago or whatever when nomura said they had an internal date, they had fall/holiday 2018 planned out and what there production schedule was working around. If it's not at e3 or tgs, I think that's likely changed and there's problems and it will be a 2019 game. I'm fine not discussing this if people don't want to since e3 hasn't even come yet but I think they're interesting hypotheticals and we have nothing else to really talk about.



I completely disagree. I think when Nomura said he had a release date already in mine it was end of 2017. However that was moved to the following year. FF VII Remake is likely gonna be scheduled for 2019/2020. As that article said they're running into issues. As far the Avengers title, that one doesn't even have a name yet. It's probably gonna be officially revealed at E3.

I predict KH III, Dissidia, and Avengers at E3 this year. At least in the Sony show. SE usually has at least 2-3 games in the show.

Squood!

June 8, 2017 @ 09:20 amOffline

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kingsoraful
I predict KH III, Dissidia, and Avengers at E3 this year. At least in the Sony show. SE usually has at least 2-3 games in the show.

KH3 and Dissidia are definitely likely. Avengers, however, is not. If I recall correctly, information on the Avengers project is happening in 2018 instead of now.

Sephiroth0812

June 8, 2017 @ 09:30 amOffline

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If I'm completely honest I would not be that much surprised if the coverage for KH III at E3 is absent or at least minimal.

It is no secret that Nomura & co. favor TGS and especially Jump Festa much more so the best bets for something big would be most likely these events.

Although I am a little concerned about the apparent issue that Nomura wanted to show some stuff already and got it denied by the higher ups at Square's management (or was that solely FF7 remake related?).

Squood!

June 8, 2017 @ 09:36 amOffline

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Sephiroth0812
If I'm completely honest I would not be that much surprised if the coverage for KH III at E3 is absent or at least minimal.

It is no secret that Nomura & co. favor TGS and especially Jump Festa much more so the best bets for something big would be most likely these events.

Although I am a little concerned about the apparent issue that Nomura wanted to show some stuff already and got it denied by the higher ups at Square's management (or was that solely FF7 remake related?).

It was FF7 related. He wanted to show a video of the scorpion bot boss but got denied.


Also, Square just released their Square Enix Presents line-up for E3 and KH3 is not there. BUT, before anyone says stuff, I'd like to remind you that KH3 wasn't in their SEP lineup in 2015 AND BLAMMO a trailer happened. There's also the Orchestra concert, and Sony's conference, plus D23 in July.

Sally-boiii

June 8, 2017 @ 06:52 pmOffline

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^This coupled with notion that it wouldn't make any sense for KH3 not to be presented (RIP Winter announcements) leaves room to make a pretty reasonable assumption that it's going to be at E3.


However, I just can't get excited, because that disappointment would suck -_-

Launchpad

June 8, 2017 @ 08:43 pmOffline

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if KH3 is a no-show at e3, this website will be changed to 'Keeping House' Insider, a home decor discussion website with news about the hottest new interior designs.

Chuman

June 8, 2017 @ 09:10 pmOffline

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Launchpad
if KH3 is a no-show at e3, this website will be changed to 'Keeping House' Insider, a home decor discussion website with news about the hottest new interior designs.


i cant wait for the exciting July 2017 issue, "The Door... is Open"

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DarkosOverlord

June 8, 2017 @ 10:03 pmOffline

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I'm surprised no one brought up the Richard Epcar tweet yet.

Dandelion

June 8, 2017 @ 10:15 pmOffline

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When you're already at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to news, nothing matters anymore

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notnow123487

June 8, 2017 @ 10:18 pmOffline

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DarkosOverlord
I'm surprised no one brought up the Richard Epcar tweet yet.


Pretty sure it was discussed briefly. Not much to say about it. He totally phrased it in a way though that makes it sound like the games in a state where you should just be happy to get a new trailer.

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kingsoraful

June 8, 2017 @ 11:06 pmOffline

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DarkosOverlord
I'm surprised no one brought up the Richard Epcar tweet yet.


I think an important thing to take away from that tweet was not the discounting that we won't get KH 3 at E3 just we won't get a release date. Which I completely agree with, however it will not be a "Now In Development" situation.

I firmly believe at the very least they show the release year at the end of the trailer.

If this is going the route of FF XV they basically did the same thing. Showed you the year it was coming out and then set up an actual event where they would reveal the release date.

My prediction for E3 is new trailer, release year, and Frozen world revealed.

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DarkosOverlord

June 8, 2017 @ 11:12 pmOffline

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I keep taking what a VA says with a grain of salt anyway, since they're far from being the most reliable source on these matters.

Dandelion
When you're already at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to news, nothing matters anymore


True dat.

Squood!

June 8, 2017 @ 11:30 pmOffline

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Well, Epcar's not wrong. We need a release year first lol

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notnow123487

June 9, 2017 @ 12:05 amOffline

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kingsoraful
I think an important thing to take away from that tweet was not the discounting that we won't get KH 3 at E3 just we won't get a release date. Which I completely agree with, however it will not be a "Now In Development" situation.

I firmly believe at the very least they show the release year at the end of the trailer.

If this is going the route of FF XV they basically did the same thing. Showed you the year it was coming out and then set up an actual event where they would reveal the release date.

My prediction for E3 is new trailer, release year, and Frozen world revealed.


Since we both don't have avatars, I'll avatar bet you that we don't see KH3 or get a now in development at e3 (including the concerts).

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horto12485

June 9, 2017 @ 01:37 amOffline

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kingsoraful
I think an important thing to take away from that tweet was not the discounting that we won't get KH 3 at E3 just we won't get a release date. Which I completely agree with, however it will not be a "Now In Development" situation.

I firmly believe at the very least they show the release year at the end of the trailer.

If this is going the route of FF XV they basically did the same thing. Showed you the year it was coming out and then set up an actual event where they would reveal the release date.

My prediction for E3 is new trailer, release year, and Frozen world revealed.


They really need to stop with the Now in Development thing and just show us a release window or something.

Here's my Prediction for the New Trailer

San Fransokyo Gameplay Footage

Story Footage

Release Window

2 New World Reveals(Frozen and Treasure Planet)

More Area Gameplay(Hercules, Tangled and Mysterious Tower)

Squood!

June 9, 2017 @ 04:07 amOffline

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Ooookay


4(3?)Days Till Sony's E3 Conference

ONE day till the Kingdom Hearts Orchestra Concert.

Nomura is coming to the US, but not to E3, is apparently going to have to get angry or something because Google and Bing translate is weird

The Square Enix Presents Line-up is subject to change without notice

That NeoGAF leaker is still probably wrong since they didn't elaborate on what "their sources" were and are probably making it up

The wait is getting stressful on people and their sense[not everyone tho].

And that concludes your unnecessary E3 wait update.

Silver_Soul

June 9, 2017 @ 04:17 amOffline

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That NeoGAF leaker is still probably wrong since they didn't elaborate on what "their sources" were and are probably making it up


I don't know how to feel about that leak. The closer E3 gets, the more pessimistic I become. Hopefully I'm surprised.

Sephiroth0812

June 9, 2017 @ 07:42 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

The wait is getting stressful on people and their sense.


Wut?
Like really?
Lol, I have enough RL-stuff giving me stress so I certainly don't need additional fuel when in the end it is just a friggin' video game.

Current mood:
very calm, yet slightly amused.
Sitting there with a glass of wine simply awaiting what comes along.

One who has no or very low expectations can't really be disappointed anymore and more than ten years in this fandom have teached me that this is the most mentally healthy approach.

Squood!

June 9, 2017 @ 07:49 amOffline

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Sephiroth0812
Wut?
Like really?
Lol, I have enough RL-stuff giving me stress so I certainly don't need additional fuel when in the end it is just a friggin' video game.

Current mood:
very calm, yet slightly amused.
Sitting there with a glass of wine simply awaiting what comes along.

One who has no or very low expectations can't really be disappointed anymore and more than ten years in this fandom have teached me that this is the most mentally healthy approach.
Yeah, you're right, but I'm mostly speaking about that one part of the fandom that have incredibly high expectations over a video game trailer and believe that they've been waiting ten years. Should've picked my words better.

Chaser

June 9, 2017 @ 09:00 amOffline

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Sephiroth0812
Wut?
Like really?
Lol, I have enough RL-stuff giving me stress so I certainly don't need additional fuel when in the end it is just a friggin' video game.

Current mood:
very calm, yet slightly amused.
Sitting there with a glass of wine simply awaiting what comes along.

One who has no or very low expectations can't really be disappointed anymore and more than ten years in this fandom have teached me that this is the most mentally healthy approach.

My problem is my semester ends right before E3 so I have nothing to do but think about E3. I'm happy for Spiderman to be at the Sony showcase, but I need KH3.

Sephiroth0812

June 9, 2017 @ 09:38 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
Yeah, you're right, but I'm mostly speaking about that one part of the fandom that have incredibly high expectations over a video game trailer and believe that they've been waiting ten years. Should've picked my words better.


That certain part of the fandom has almost always incredibly high (overblown?) expectations and is in the same vein almost always complaining the loudest.
I've decided to try and ignore that part of the fandom as much as possible.

Chaser
My problem is my semester ends right before E3 so I have nothing to do but think about E3. I'm happy for Spiderman to be at the Sony showcase, but I need KH3.


That means no more backlog of other games, still unfinished books to read or DVDs to watch?
I'm impressed, lol, as I've still a huge backlog of stuff to attend to back at home. ;P

Squood!

June 9, 2017 @ 10:32 amOffline

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I don't know how to feel about that leak. The closer E3 gets, the more pessimistic I become. Hopefully I'm surprised.

I feel like that's the reason that leaker even showed up. To make people feel pessimistic.


And besides, they have no real evidence and their so-called sources are just "my sources". No elaboration on who or what those sources are, no evidence on if they're trustworthy.


Also, they said that the Avengers project would be at E3, despite it being said that said project won't get news and info until 2018.


They also said that Square would talk about how Dragon Quest IX wouldn't be coming to Switch even though Square said that the Switch version is still a thing and will be talked about after the other versions are released.

gosoxtim

June 9, 2017 @ 12:06 pmOffline

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Chaser
My problem is my semester ends right before E3 so I have nothing to do but think about E3. I'm happy for Spiderman to be at the Sony showcase, but I need KH3.
wow chaser you had a long semster aat least you had something to do to keep you busy but you there other games i would like to see but kh3 is my main focus

Chaser

June 9, 2017 @ 12:25 pmOffline

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Sephiroth0812

That means no more backlog of other games, still unfinished books to read or DVDs to watch?
I'm impressed, lol, as I've still a huge backlog of stuff to attend to back at home. ;P

I multitask. I play games / watch shows while surfing the internet and read E3 things. Been busy with the kh series these last few weeks actually, got the BBS and KHII platinum and I've been jumping between P5 and Wipeout

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notnow123487

June 9, 2017 @ 04:36 pmOffline

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Sephiroth0812
Wut?
Like really?
Lol, I have enough RL-stuff giving me stress so I certainly don't need additional fuel when in the end it is just a friggin' video game.

Current mood:
very calm, yet slightly amused.
Sitting there with a glass of wine simply awaiting what comes along.

One who has no or very low expectations can't really be disappointed anymore and more than ten years in this fandom have teached me that this is the most mentally healthy approach.


That's the best part. There's going to be positive no matter what. Either we get new KH3 news to discuss and salivate over, or there will be pages and pages of meltdowns from people that still think this game has a chance of coming out next spring. I'm going to be entertained regardless.

hemmoheikkinen

June 9, 2017 @ 05:47 pmOffline

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Eh, I`ll be starting my summer job next week so I`ll be either too busy or too tired to stress or follow what`s happening at E3. I`ll probably catch all the news later after work which is a bit sad, since I remember how fun it was to comment and react to stuff live in 2015.

samues

June 9, 2017 @ 05:47 pmOffline

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for me i wanna see a new trailer with a new worlds announced,gameplay with worlds,kingdom hearts 3 now in depelopment,and new drive forms too, also new keyblade transformations too, new story would be kind of cool though.

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notnow123487

June 9, 2017 @ 05:52 pmOffline

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My final prediction. We get a brief trailer and "progressing in development" becomes the new "now in development."

Launchpad

June 9, 2017 @ 06:08 pmOffline

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Hey, guys, guess what? 'Not caring' about what may or may not show up at a conference is nothing to be proud of or brag about, and it's certainly not a competition.

I'm busy as shit. I'm in two musicals, I'm working a new job, getting my financial information together to go into an apartment with some friends, getting ready for classes, and dealing with a multitude of familial issues (nothing crazy). And y'know, I'm still going to be reduced to a jabbering incoherent ape when E3 comes along, because that's fun for me, and I will certainly be slinging bananas and feces at my screen if KH3 shows up.

Anyway, gimmie a release year please

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notnow123487

June 10, 2017 @ 04:03 amOffline

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HYPE IS BACK ON THE MENU! (This guy leaked dissidia)

[FONT=sans-serif]https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/873353884487438336[/FONT]

Silver_Soul

June 10, 2017 @ 05:30 amOffline

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If a trailer is shown at the concert, should we expect it to be posted to YouTube right after it? Kinda unfair if it isn't.

Grizzly

June 10, 2017 @ 05:35 amOffline

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Silver_Soul
If a trailer is shown at the concert, should we expect it to be posted to YouTube right after it? Kinda unfair if it isn't.


I would assume so. No sense in losing out on some extra free marketing.

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June 10, 2017 @ 05:42 amOffline

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Silver_Soul
If a trailer is shown at the concert, should we expect it to be posted to YouTube right after it? Kinda unfair if it isn't.


I'd assume there are 3 ways it could go: posted immediately after the first concert to combat any crappy phone uploads, posted after the Sony conference if it appears there also or posted after all the LA concerts are over to keep it as an ''exclusive look'' for a while.

First option is most likely because publishers usually hate those phone leaks.

Grizzly

June 10, 2017 @ 05:51 amOffline

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Pestilence
I'd assume there are 3 ways it could go: posted immediately after the first concert to combat any crappy phone uploads, posted after the Sony conference if it appears there also or posted after all the LA concerts are over to keep it as an ''exclusive look'' for a while.

First option is most likely because publishers usually hate those phone leaks.


Won't be posted after the Sony conference. A large part of their reason for showing it a couple days before the conference is so it isn't overshadowed by the massive AAA exclusives Sony is going to show. The general public won't care about KH3 after God of War, Spider-Man, and Uncharted blow the brains out of every consumer who cares about video games. Square Enix will want the general public to actually talk about what is arguably their biggest game until FF7R releases in like 2020 or 2021.

Silver_Soul

June 10, 2017 @ 06:04 amOffline

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Grizzly
Won't be posted after the Sony conference. A large part of their reason for showing it a couple days before the conference is so it isn't overshadowed by the massive AAA exclusives Sony is going to show. The general public won't care about KH3 after God of War, Spider-Man, and Uncharted blow the brains out of every consumer who cares about video games. Square Enix will want the general public to actually talk about what is arguably their biggest game until FF7R releases in like 2020 or 2021.


W'ell have to wait and see. It is speculation at this point after all. But you'd be surprised. KH3 has a bigger following than one might think. A lot of people grew up with this series and is waiting for the "mythical" KH3 whether they played the other games that have come out in the last 10 years or not.

Grizzly

June 10, 2017 @ 06:29 amOffline

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Silver_Soul
W'ell have to wait and see. It is speculation at this point after all. But you'd be surprised. KH3 has a bigger following than one might think. A lot of people grew up with this series and is waiting for the "mythical" KH3 whether they played the other games that have come out in the last 10 years or not.


I'm not surprised, the core KH games have sold anywhere between 22-26 million copies. That said, the most copies of any individual game was Kingdom Hearts at 5.9 million copies, and that's on a console that has sold 155 million copies. Granted, that number is a bit off because KH probably sold a lot of its copies before the PS2 hit those numbers, but PS4 has sold less than half of that number, so the install base is much smaller than the console on which the best selling KH game was sold on two generations ago. KH is bigger than a lot of people give it credit, but the series drop off is incredibly strong, it isn't nearly as popular as it once was.

The God of War series, which Sony will be showcasing at E3 this year, reached the 21 million coirs-sold milestone back in 2012, and with remasters factored in, is at least as large as KH in terms of sales. Gran Turismo, which is being shown at E3, reached 76.5 million copies sold in 2015, so is over three times larger than KH. Call of Duty Black Ops 3 released in 2015 and sold 32.5 million copies, whereas the game before that, Advanced Warfare, sold 24.5 million copies. In November of 2015, just a year after Destiny released, it registered 25 million players. All of these titles will be shown at E3, along with titles of similar magnitude. While KH3 has shown up before, as well as other niche games and small announcements to please small subsets of fans, it simply cannot stand against those other juggernauts at a conference that is all about the money.

That's not to mention that trends are indicating that these are going to be the largest sales numbers in the franchise for God of War, Call of Duty, Destiny, and other games as well. With Square having their concert two days before all of the news surrounding those massive games hit, it make a lot more sense for them to show it at the concert than at Sony's press conference.

The casual fans won't care or know about the "mythical" element of KH3, as they haven't been waiting 10+ years for it. The attention of those gamers will be absolutely vital to SE, and releasing the trailer before Microsoft and Sony have their conferences is a surefire way to grab at least some of that attention.

Smaller games and games of similar sizes of KH have has trailers and reveals all week this past week to get ahead of the blockbuster titles too. There's no justifiable reason why KH shouldn't do the same if they even have something to show this weekend at all. KH's status as a mid-level multiplatform third party game puts it in a prime spot to draw in a bigger audience before E3.

Don't mistake my analysis for skepticism though, I'm still exceptionally excited and will be one of the first people to express hype at the first sight of any KH trailer. I'm hoping we get something great this weekend, but the games industry is a complicated beast.

Chaser

June 10, 2017 @ 06:53 amOffline

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notnow123487
HYPE IS BACK ON THE MENU! (This guy leaked dissidia)

[FONT=sans-serif]https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/873353884487438336[/FONT]


This guy has never leaked anything or had exclusive information in his life. He takes information from other sources and tweets it from his own account, a lot of the time without proper sourcing or anything.

Edit: His first tweet about Dissidia on consoles came 2 minutes after other sources dropped the Amazon information. He would have seen this information then immediately got to reposting it on his account.

Silver_Soul

June 10, 2017 @ 06:57 amOffline

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It seems like we are getting "leakers" left and right giving us contradictory info. Believe no one lol.

Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 07:05 amOffline

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notnow123487
HYPE IS BACK ON THE MENU! (This guy leaked dissidia)

[FONT=sans-serif]https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/873353884487438336[/FONT]


Ech, so vague. He could mean ANYTHING.


Buuuuut the only thing happening tomorrow/today[tweet posted on the 9th, today's the 10th now]as far as I know is the KH concert. Soooooo.....will something happen? Find out next time on DRAGON BALL Z!

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notnow123487

June 10, 2017 @ 07:18 amOffline

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Ech, so vague. He could mean ANYTHING.


Buuuuut the only thing happening tomorrow/today[tweet posted on the 9th, today's the 10th now]as far as I know is the KH concert. Soooooo.....will something happen? Find out next time on DRAGON BALL Z!


He's talking about kingdom hearts...his entire feed is kingdom hearts stuff and he said no comment to someone that asked him if it's kingdom hearts and he tweeted a cheeky smile to an article saying both KH3 and remake wouldn't be at e3.

Chaser

June 10, 2017 @ 07:24 amOffline

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notnow123487
and he tweeted a cheeky smile to an article saying both KH3 and remake wouldn't be at e3.

That was in reference to an article on the Bit Bag where they're saying that KH3 and FFVIIR won't be there based on Square Enix Presents line up. No idea what his intentions were behind tweeting the article headline with an emoji, maybe for an "I told you so" moment after the conferences?

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notnow123487

June 10, 2017 @ 07:35 amOffline

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Chaser
That was in reference to an article on the Bit Bag where they're saying that KH3 and FFVIIR won't be there based on Square Enix Presents line up. No idea what his intentions were behind tweeting the article headline with an emoji, maybe for an "I told you so" moment after the conferences?


His follow up tweet to it makes it seem his intentions were to point out that the title is technically correct because it won't be at e3, but it'll be at the concerts. With that said, I have no idea who this guy is and doubt he's really actually credible. But I need hype from somewhere and will take what I can get.

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June 10, 2017 @ 07:56 amOffline

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Grizzly
I'm not surprised, the core KH games have sold anywhere between 22-26 million copies. That said, the most copies of any individual game was Kingdom Hearts at 5.9 million copies, and that's on a console that has sold 155 million copies. Granted, that number is a bit off because KH probably sold a lot of its copies before the PS2 hit those numbers, but PS4 has sold less than half of that number, so the install base is much smaller than the console on which the best selling KH game was sold on two generations ago. KH is bigger than a lot of people give it credit, but the series drop off is incredibly strong, it isn't nearly as popular as it once was.

The God of War series, which Sony will be showcasing at E3 this year, reached the 21 million coirs-sold milestone back in 2012, and with remasters factored in, is at least as large as KH in terms of sales. Gran Turismo, which is being shown at E3, reached 76.5 million copies sold in 2015, so is over three times larger than KH. Call of Duty Black Ops 3 released in 2015 and sold 32.5 million copies, whereas the game before that, Advanced Warfare, sold 24.5 million copies. In November of 2015, just a year after Destiny released, it registered 25 million players. All of these titles will be shown at E3, along with titles of similar magnitude. While KH3 has shown up before, as well as other niche games and small announcements to please small subsets of fans, it simply cannot stand against those other juggernauts at a conference that is all about the money.

That's not to mention that trends are indicating that these are going to be the largest sales numbers in the franchise for God of War, Call of Duty, Destiny, and other games as well. With Square having their concert two days before all of the news surrounding those massive games hit, it make a lot more sense for them to show it at the concert than at Sony's press conference.

The casual fans won't care or know about the "mythical" element of KH3, as they haven't been waiting 10+ years for it. The attention of those gamers will be absolutely vital to SE, and releasing the trailer before Microsoft and Sony have their conferences is a surefire way to grab at least some of that attention.

Smaller games and games of similar sizes of KH have has trailers and reveals all week this past week to get ahead of the blockbuster titles too. There's no justifiable reason why KH shouldn't do the same if they even have something to show this weekend at all. KH's status as a mid-level multiplatform third party game puts it in a prime spot to draw in a bigger audience before E3.

Don't mistake my analysis for skepticism though, I'm still exceptionally excited and will be one of the first people to express hype at the first sight of any KH trailer. I'm hoping we get something great this weekend, but the games industry is a complicated beast.


So why did Square show Hitman, NieR, World of Final Fantasy, FFXV, FF7R on Sony stage events when they knew Call of Duty ect. would be there?

It doesn't really work as you think unless we are talking about truly small games. Kingdom Hearts 3 is way above the bar of needing to worry about losing attention. Besides the game isn't coming out in a long time, E3 showcase rarely is considered as real marketing push. KH3 trailer would have been on Sony stage back in 2015 if Square didn't hold their own presser.

Chaser

June 10, 2017 @ 08:09 amOffline

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It's probably nothing but in 2015 the SEEU press site updated some of it's titles right before E3 and, while nothing was added that was visible because that all went live after the conference, it revealed what previously revealed games would be shown at their E3 conference, including KH3.

And the same shit just happened:




So far Dissidia and FFXII TZA have things that were added or changed in their sections, the first being the trailer and the second being a story trailer press release, but the others are unaccounted for. Dragon Quest Heroes II was already released and is getting regular DLC so I imagine that updated listing is for that, and Mobius is having a XIV cross over event, but man I wish this was indicative of something actually happening.

Keep in mind these listings sometimes do say "New" despite no obvious change or addition to their listing, but right before E3 has raised a bit of red flags considering the others have obvious updates.

Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 08:31 amOffline

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Chaser
It's probably nothing but in 2015 the SEEU press site updated some of it's titles right before E3 and, while nothing was added that was visible because that all went live after the conference, it revealed what previously revealed games would be shown at their E3 conference, including KH3.

And the same shit just happened:




So far Dissidia and FFXII TZA have things that were added or changed in their sections, the first being the trailer and the second being a story trailer press release, but the others are unaccounted for. Dragon Quest Heroes II was already released and is getting regular DLC so I imagine that updated listing is for that, and Mobius is having a XIV cross over event, but man I wish this was indicative of something actually happening.

Keep in mind these listings sometimes do say "New" despite no obvious change or addition to their listing, but right before E3 has raised a bit of red flags considering the others have obvious updates.

O_O Well SE doesn't really have a conference this year so......FF7/KH3 Sony hype boi? Maybe?

Launchpad

June 10, 2017 @ 08:41 amOffline

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FF7 and KH3 aren't big enough to stand separately in a full conference, but together?? I say ye

Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 08:44 amOffline

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Launchpad
FF7 and KH3 aren't big enough to stand separately in a full conference, but together?? I say ye

Give the crowd a double whammy of FF7 and KH3. Follow it up with Spider-Man. THEN CRASH BANDICOOT.

Muke

June 10, 2017 @ 09:47 amOffline

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Chaser
This guy has never leaked anything or had exclusive information in his life. He takes information from other sources and tweets it from his own account, a lot of the time without proper sourcing or anything.

Edit: His first tweet about Dissidia on consoles came 2 minutes after other sources dropped the Amazon information. He would have seen this information then immediately got to reposting it on his account.

So he's basically TheGamersJoint

Chaser
It's probably nothing but in 2015 the SEEU press site updated some of it's titles right before E3 and, while nothing was added that was visible because that all went live after the conference, it revealed what previously revealed games would be shown at their E3 conference, including KH3.

And the same shit just happened:




So far Dissidia and FFXII TZA have things that were added or changed in their sections, the first being the trailer and the second being a story trailer press release, but the others are unaccounted for. Dragon Quest Heroes II was already released and is getting regular DLC so I imagine that updated listing is for that, and Mobius is having a XIV cross over event, but man I wish this was indicative of something actually happening.

Keep in mind these listings sometimes do say "New" despite no obvious change or addition to their listing, but right before E3 has raised a bit of red flags considering the others have obvious updates.

So, if I got that right, the "New" could mean that KH3 will appear at E3?

Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 10:02 amOffline

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Muke
So, if I got that right, the "New" could mean that KH3 will appear at E3?

I guess so. Otherwise it wouldn't get a New right before E3.

Pestilence

June 10, 2017 @ 10:05 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
I guess so. Otherwise it wouldn't get a New right before E3.


Depending on how their site works it might not be that simple.

Chaser

June 10, 2017 @ 10:31 amOffline

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When new press marketing materials are uploaded, the listings get updated with 'new'. However there have been times when it gets the 'new' status but there's nothing in there (like how it is right now) and more often then not nothing actually goes live. It might be a fault in the system where a slight tinkering with something could reset the status as was the case less than a week ago:


Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 10:35 amOffline

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Ech. That would suck if it was just a glitch.

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 11:14 amOffline

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Muke
So he's basically TheGamersJoint


So, if I got that right, the "New" could mean that KH3 will appear at E3?


Yes that and FF 7 Remake and Dissidia.

If it's true Sony isn't playing this E3. Hope we get a release date.

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 11:17 amOffline

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Another thing could be they updated it for KH3 at the concert tonight. Either way either today or Monday we're hopefully gonna be getting new KH3 info including a release year and hopefully a new world.

What time is the concert?

gosoxtim

June 10, 2017 @ 11:43 amOffline

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kingsoraful
Another thing could be they updated it for KH3 at the concert tonight. Either way either today or Monday we're hopefully gonna be getting new KH3 info including a release year and hopefully a new world.

What time is the concert?
8pm pdt and if we dont get at e3 or the concerts then most likey next thing is d23 in july since nomura did say he going to be a another event

Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 12:53 pmOffline

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So Maku tweeted another vague tweet.

[FONT=Helvetica Neue]https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/873511376399945729[/FONT]

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DarkosOverlord

June 10, 2017 @ 01:10 pmOffline

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"Hey guys I hope you'll enjoy this E3, some will probably like the games showed"

Done, where's my medal

Muke

June 10, 2017 @ 01:13 pmOffline

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KH3 was announced today 4 years ago. Time really flies

Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 01:22 pmOffline

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Muke
KH3 was announced today 4 years ago. Time really flies

My insane conspiracy side is already getting in gear trying to connect the Orchestra to it while my rational side is being rational.

gosoxtim

June 10, 2017 @ 01:36 pmOffline

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if we do get news today you have to think did plan the schedre this way so he could annoced it on this day

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June 10, 2017 @ 02:08 pmOffline

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Muke
KH3 was announced today 4 years ago. Time really flies
Happy Anniversary? *hands out cake*

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June 10, 2017 @ 02:52 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
So Maku tweeted another vague tweet.

[FONT=Helvetica Neue]https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/873511376399945729[/FONT]



Okay everybody, keep your eyes on the Kingdom Hearts Orchestra, I have a good feeling that the trailer will be revealed there!

Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 03:30 pmOffline

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Is anyone keeping an eye on the Square Enix EU press site? I tried, but it couldn't load.

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 04:00 pmOffline

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Launchpad
FF7 and KH3 aren't big enough to stand separately in a full conference, but together?? I say ye


...2 of the most anticipated titles ever, I think they absolutely could stand in a conference separated from the rest.

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 04:05 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
Okay everybody, keep your eyes on the Kingdom Hearts Orchestra, I have a good feeling that the trailer will be revealed there!


Will they reveal the trailer before the event or wait till during the event? I wonder if they'll just show the trailer to the audience and then give the full reveal in the Sony panel?

gosoxtim

June 10, 2017 @ 04:22 pmOffline

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kingsoraful
Will they reveal the trailer before the event or wait till during the event? I wonder if they'll just show the trailer to the audience and then give the full reveal in the Sony panel?
it might be during the break that when the union x news broke up anyway dont expent sony confernce if the trailer was reveal here

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 04:29 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
it might be during the break that when the union x news broke up anyway dont expent sony confernce if the trailer was reveal here


I would expect the Sony thing if the trailer is not online during or after the event. Cause they wouldn't have a trailer just for the concert atendees wthout all the fans seeing it. Not talking about bootleg or cam recorded copies.

gosoxtim

June 10, 2017 @ 04:31 pmOffline

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kingsoraful
I would expect the Sony thing if the trailer is not online during or after the event. Cause they wouldn't have a trailer just for the concert atendees wthout all the fans seeing it. Not talking about bootleg or cam recorded copies.
you do know square can posted it on there kingdom hearts youtube channel right when it happens so keep a eye kingdom hearts social media today unless they say otherwise

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 04:42 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
you do know square can posted it on there kingdom hearts youtube channel right when it happens so keep a eye kingdom hearts social media today unless they say otherwise


Yeah I know my point is if that doesn't happen aka the trailer is put on the youtube channel then expect it at Sony conference.

Alpha Baymax

June 10, 2017 @ 06:48 pmOffline

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kingsoraful
Will they reveal the trailer before the event or wait till during the event? I wonder if they'll just show the trailer to the audience and then give the full reveal in the Sony panel?


The reveal of Union X was during the event itself. It was timed so that once the people in the orchestra seen what happened, it was eventually posted online. But I cannot stress enough, KEEP. AN. EYE. ON. THE. ORCHESTRA. EVENT.

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 06:53 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
The reveal of Union X was during the event itself. It was timed so that once the people in the orchestra seen what happened, it was eventually posted online. But I cannot stress enough, KEEP. AN. EYE. ON. THE. ORCHESTRA. EVENT.


Does the orchestra event have a youtube channel or is it the kH one?

Alpha Baymax

June 10, 2017 @ 07:41 pmOffline

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kingsoraful
Does the orchestra event have a youtube channel or is it the kH one?


The Kingdom Hearts worldwide one. Expect Square Enix to make an announcement, or outright drop the trailer soon!

Silver_Soul

June 10, 2017 @ 08:14 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
The Kingdom Hearts worldwide one. Expect Square Enix to make an announcement, or outright drop the trailer soon!


There is no confirmation on this though. I would keep our hype in check to avoid disappointment .

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notnow123487

June 10, 2017 @ 08:34 pmOffline

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Silver_Soul
There is no confirmation on this though. I would keep our hype in check to avoid disappointment .


Yea there's no real evidence of anything tonight. I hope no one is actually expecting anything. It's fine to be hyped up at the possibility, but understand that any of the alleged insiders are shaky to doubtful in trustworthiness at best.

CrystalRaine

June 10, 2017 @ 08:39 pmOffline

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What time is the orchestra starting and how long is it on for?

Squood!

June 10, 2017 @ 08:41 pmOffline

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CrystalRaine
What time is the orchestra starting and how long is it on for?

8:00 PM Pacific Time. I don't know how long it is tho.

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UltimaXOmega

June 10, 2017 @ 08:41 pmOffline

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I expect KHIII to skip E3 tbh.

CrystalRaine

June 10, 2017 @ 08:44 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
8:00 PM Pacific Time. I don't know how long it is tho.


Thank you. I believe the London one was 2-3 hours, so I guess I'll have to wait until the morning to see if we get anything (I'm from the UK)

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June 10, 2017 @ 09:03 pmOffline

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Silver_Soul
There is no confirmation on this though. I would keep our hype in check to avoid disappointment .


True. There is no confirmation of this.
But there's no denying the coincidences either. Nomura's in the United States yet he isn't at E3? And whenever Nomura travel's abroad, it's for interview and game conference purposes. Remember what happened with the Kingdom Hearts 2.5 event? and Union X being revealed during the first concert?

The timing is too perfect. And truth be told, it's not even a disappointment if it doesn't make it to the Orchestra, because it's just as likely to be shown at Sony's press conference. Regardless, keep your eye on the Orchestra event.

Muke

June 10, 2017 @ 09:24 pmOffline

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I really like your enthusiasm, but you're gonna get really upset if KH3 doesn't appear at either of the events, dude. Maybe tone the hype down a bit so you won't be as disappointed? Don't get me wrong, of course you can be hyped, but I'm just saying

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 09:25 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax

True. There is no confirmation of this.
But there's no denying the coincidences either. Nomura's in the United States yet he isn't at E3? And whenever Nomura travel's abroad, it's for interview and game conference purposes. Remember what happened with the Kingdom Hearts 2.5 event? and Union X being revealed during the first concert?

The timing is too perfect. And truth be told, it's not even a disappointment if it doesn't make it to the Orchestra, because it's just as likely to be shown at Sony's press conference. Regardless, keep your eye on the Orchestra event.


Exactly either we get it tonight or we get it Monday night at the press conference IMO.

Alpha Baymax

June 10, 2017 @ 09:37 pmOffline

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Muke
I really like your enthusiasm, but you're gonna get really upset if KH3 doesn't appear at either of the events, dude. Maybe tone the hype down a bit so you won't be as disappointed? Don't get me wrong, of course you can be hyped, but I'm just saying


... But I literally just said stated my opinion if it does not pop up at the Orchestra.

Alpha Baymax

True. There is no confirmation of this.


The timing is too perfect. And truth be told, it's not even a disappointment if it doesn't make it to the Orchestra, because it's just as likely to be shown at Sony's press conference. Regardless, keep your eye on the Orchestra event.

Muke

June 10, 2017 @ 09:54 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
... But I literally just said stated my opinion if it does not pop up at the Orchestra.


it's not even a disappointment if it doesn't make it to the Orchestra[B]

, because it's just as likely to be shown at Sony's press conference


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i… know?
Muke
you're gonna get really upset if KH3 doesn't appear at either of the events

the events being the orchestra and sony's conference

Grizzly

June 10, 2017 @ 10:03 pmOffline

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I think it is more likely to show up at the concert than at the press conference as I've explained in posts before.

I think it is even more likely to see the game at neither of them and then see it at TGS in September or Jump Festa in December. That doesn't mean we won't see it this weekend, but if it doesn't there's no reason to panic.

Luckily we won't have long to find out either way.

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What time is the orchestra starting and how long is it on for?
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[FONT=Verdana]It should be between an hour and an hour and a half long based on last year's conference.[/FONT]

VoidGear.

June 10, 2017 @ 10:13 pmOffline

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I can see SE throw out a trailer now and show something bigger in an upcoming event like TGS. E3 would be cool and all, but I'd rather not have them force something there.

Sonicfan2525

June 10, 2017 @ 10:25 pmOffline

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God all this suspense is killing me! A trailer could drop tonight, it could drop during the Sony conference, or it could not drop at all. I'm trying to stay rational and trying not to let my hopeless optimism disappoint me for the billionth time, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't getting more and more excited the closer we get to E3 (I want KH3 news and reveals but I am mostly just excited for E3 in general).

CrystalRaine

June 10, 2017 @ 10:36 pmOffline

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[FONT=Verdana]It should be between an hour and an hour and a half long based on last year's conference.[/FONT]



I meant the orchestra, not the press conference XD

Launchpad

June 10, 2017 @ 10:40 pmOffline

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I say let your hopes soar and just go insane if no trailer ever goes up-- this site is way more fun when it's in complete pandemonium.

Absent

June 10, 2017 @ 10:44 pmOffline

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Overall I'm not expecting anything whatsoever. Best case scenario they mention that Kingdom Hearts 3 still exist.

Grizzly

June 10, 2017 @ 10:57 pmOffline

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CrystalRaine
I meant the orchestra, not the press conference XD


Yikes haha. The music the orchestra played is typically about an hour and 12 minutes I believe, so coupled in with all the other stuff they do and an intermission if there is one, I'd say an hour and 45 minutes at the most.

Zeto

June 10, 2017 @ 11:06 pmOffline

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I'm betting on E3. Don't fail me Square!

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kingsoraful

June 10, 2017 @ 11:11 pmOffline

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Quick question, when is it likely the trailer will drop? At what time tonight during the concert? When is the concert again?

If the trailer drops tonight, do you think they'll just play it for the people at the concert and then for everyone else they'll have to wait till the Sony press conference?

Chaser

June 10, 2017 @ 11:29 pmOffline

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kingsoraful
Quick question, when is it likely the trailer will drop? At what time tonight during the concert? When is the concert again?

If the trailer drops tonight, do you think they'll just play it for the people at the concert and then for everyone else they'll have to wait till the Sony press conference?

I believe the concert starts in about 3 and a half hours. If it's like Union X, it would be uploaded and made available during the actual concert. If it is at the concert but not uploaded, it might drop at one of the regular PR times which is, in my local time zone (AEST), 11pm, 1am, 3am.

If it is at the concert and nothing is uploaded, I say wait for Microsoft or Sony conferences.

Alpha Baymax

June 10, 2017 @ 11:45 pmOffline

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VoidGear.
I can see SE throw out a trailer now and show something bigger in an upcoming event like TGS. E3 would be cool and all, but I'd rather not have them force something there.


You won't have to wait that long, D23 is going to happen next month. The Disney Interactive panel is guaranteed to feature Kingdom Hearts III (especially considering the fact that Disney INFINITY is dead). But still, 2015 had a trailer at E3 and news in D23, now that the game is far deeper in production, I don't see why we can't have promotional footage for the E3 period and D23 again?

VoidGear.

June 10, 2017 @ 11:47 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
You won't have to wait that long, D23 is going to happen next month. The Disney Interactive panel is guaranteed to feature Kingdom Hearts III (especially considering the fact that Disney INFINITY is dead). But still, 2015 had a trailer at E3 and news in D23, now that the game is far deeper in production, I don't see why we can't have promotional footage for the E3 period and D23 again?


It's not about "we can't", it's about "e3 mostly focusses on the companies and not what the fans want" and the question if it makes sense to show KH3 right now or focus on other things and show it later.

FudgemintGuardian

June 10, 2017 @ 11:48 pmOffline

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My expectations are so low it fell through the earth and hit Chaser in the nuts.

Alpha Baymax

June 10, 2017 @ 11:52 pmOffline

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VoidGear.
It's not about "we can't", it's about "e3 mostly focusses on the companies and not what the fans want" and the question if it makes sense to show KH3 right now or focus on other things and show it later.


Personally, and I cannot stress this enough, personally, I really don't think that Kingdom Hearts III is going to be at any E3 conference. The Kingdom Hearts Orchestra seems more fitting because it's been designed for Kingdom Hearts fans in mind. E3 is more of a general gaming press event. Because the Orchestra is coincidentally at E3, it'll count as E3 coverage.

You also have to remember that shareholders and investors are watching E3 too. Remember how Square Enix's stock value increased after the reveal of Final Fantasy VII Remake? Square Enix would love to get something like that again, and that can only be achieved with a blockbuster reveal with Kingdom Hearts III soon. The Japanese Trustee Bank and Goldman Sachs are getting just as impatient as we are for news about this product.

Chaser

June 10, 2017 @ 11:53 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
You won't have to wait that long, D23 is going to happen next month. The Disney Interactive panel is guaranteed to feature Kingdom Hearts III (especially considering the fact that Disney INFINITY is dead). But still, 2015 had a trailer at E3 and news in D23, now that the game is far deeper in production, I don't see why we can't have promotional footage for the E3 period and D23 again?

Oh, I didn't know that there was going to be a Disney Interactive panel? Do you have a source, I couldn't find it on Google :(

FudgemintGuardian
My expectations are so low it fell through the earth and hit Chaser in the nuts.

:(

Pestilence

June 10, 2017 @ 11:55 pmOffline

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Oh, I didn't know that there was going to be a Disney Interactive panel? Do you have a source, I couldn't find it on Google :(


You can't find it on Google because that panel doesn't exist this year.

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June 10, 2017 @ 11:58 pmOffline

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Pestilence
You can't find it on Google because that panel doesn't exist this year.

:) :) :)

I knew it.

Also let me see if this works

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kingsoraful

June 11, 2017 @ 12:10 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
Personally, and I cannot stress this enough, personally, I really don't think that Kingdom Hearts III is going to be at any E3 conference. The Kingdom Hearts Orchestra seems more fitting because it's been designed for Kingdom Hearts fans in mind. E3 is more of a general gaming press event. Because the Orchestra is coincidentally at E3, it'll count as E3 coverage.

You also have to remember that shareholders and investors are watching E3 too. Remember how Square Enix's stock value increased after the reveal of Final Fantasy VII Remake? Square Enix would love to get something like that again, and that can only be achieved with a blockbuster reveal with Kingdom Hearts III soon. The Japanese Trustee Bank and Goldman Sachs are getting just as impatient as we are for news about this product.


Also I'm sure they'll air the trailer at E3. If I was SE I would show the trailer at the concert but not post it online until it's premiere at the Sony Press Conference with bonuses in it.

SE USA twitter just tweeted from the concert and prepping it.

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 12:40 amOffline

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Launchpad
I say let your hopes soar and just go insane if no trailer ever goes up-- this site is way more fun when it's in complete pandemonium.


This times a million. The meltdowns are so sweet.

Chaser

June 11, 2017 @ 12:42 amOffline

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notnow123487
This times a million. The meltdowns are so sweet.

Jokes on you, my life is a constant meltdown.

Also, for those who haven't, log into KHUX to get your free Orchestra Sora!

Launchpad

June 11, 2017 @ 12:46 amOffline

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what's the forum equivalent to tipping a bus over?

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June 11, 2017 @ 12:51 amOffline

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Launchpad
what's the forum equivalent to tipping a bus over?

For you? Being respectful, providing intellectual discussion, and helpful information for new members.

For everyone else? Sending me threats for putting my own hype out into the world.

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 12:51 amOffline

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Hey same here. Life meltdowns suck, kingdom hearts meltdowns are hilarious.

Launchpad

June 11, 2017 @ 01:18 amOffline

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Chaser
For you? Being respectful, providing intellectual discussion, and helpful information for new members.

For everyone else? Sending me threats for putting my own hype out into the world.


you're implying I never do any of those things but I actually do :(

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June 11, 2017 @ 01:20 amOffline

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Launchpad
you're implying I never do any of those things but I actually do :(

R.I.P. :'(

Square Enix have tweeted two photos. Almost time!


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kingsoraful

June 11, 2017 @ 01:22 amOffline

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Big press event plus Nomura I would say chances of a trailer are pretty good.

Now I think that they may show the same trailer with some additional things at E3 Sony PC + the release year.

That would be something.

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UnicornisLord14

June 11, 2017 @ 01:37 amOffline

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The concert will have new Story content in it.:

Kingdom Hearts Orchestra World Tour Comes to the US This Month with Exclusive Story Content

Chaser

June 11, 2017 @ 01:45 amOffline

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UnicornisLord14
The concert will have new Story content in it.:

Kingdom Hearts Orchestra World Tour Comes to the US This Month with Exclusive Story Content

It's just the Japanese voice over for those scenes from all the other concerts. It's not new, nor is it exclusive to the US concerts.

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June 11, 2017 @ 01:50 amOffline

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kingsoraful
Also I'm sure they'll air the trailer at E3. If I was SE I would show the trailer at the concert but not post it online until it's premiere at the Sony Press Conference with bonuses in it..
i feel like, if anything, if it showed at the sony press conference it would be truncated, not expanded (like TGS last year). there is limited time in the Press Conference, but at their own event they have more freedom.

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kingsoraful

June 11, 2017 @ 01:52 amOffline

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Audo
i feel like, if anything, if it showed at the sony press conference it would be truncated, not expanded (like TGS last year). there is limited time in the Press Conference, but at their own event they have more freedom.


Or the trailer they post online has additional footage not shown in the press conference trailer.

gosoxtim

June 11, 2017 @ 01:53 amOffline

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Audo
i feel like, if anything, if it showed at the sony press conference it would be truncated, not expanded (like TGS last year). there is limited time in the Press Conference, but at their own event they have more freedom.
right audo which why i think nomura planned for this concert on this day

Xickin

June 11, 2017 @ 02:23 amOffline

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Okay, wait, I'm confused. I thought E3 didn't start until the 13th; why am I seeing EA's announcements?

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 02:33 amOffline

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Xickin
Okay, wait, I'm confused. I thought E3 didn't start until the 13th; why am I seeing EA's announcements?


Nope everything's different this year. EA had their conference today. Microsoft has theirs tomorrow and it's usually on Monday before sonys. Everything else is the normal schedule.

CrystalRaine

June 11, 2017 @ 02:35 amOffline

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Xickin
Okay, wait, I'm confused. I thought E3 didn't start until the 13th; why am I seeing EA's announcements?


The actual event itself doesn't start until the 13th, but the press conferences are starting before then. EA had their EA Play event today, followed by Microsoft and Bethesda's conferences tomorrow, Sony and Ubisoft on Monday, and Nintendo on Tuesday.

gosoxtim

June 11, 2017 @ 02:44 amOffline

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guess who at the concset shinji

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kingsoraful

June 11, 2017 @ 02:46 amOffline

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HASHIMOTO THE DUDE THAT REVEALED THE TRAILER IN 2015 AT THE SE E3 EVENT IS AT THE CONCERT! HYPE IS INCREASING YALL!

Pestilence

June 11, 2017 @ 02:48 amOffline

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Hashimoto being there isn't exactly telling, calm down lol.

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kingsoraful

June 11, 2017 @ 02:49 amOffline

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Nomura and Hashimoto being there I think is pretty telling.

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 02:59 amOffline

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Oh my f*ck. I can't, HASHIMOTO.

CrystalRaine

June 11, 2017 @ 03:06 amOffline

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Wow, I was skeptical at first, but Hashimoto being there makes me think they have something big to announce. Did he attend any of the other orchestra dates?

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ultima-demi

June 11, 2017 @ 03:09 amOffline

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I'll be fine with just a world reveal through a small vague screenshot of Sora in some corner.

Recon

June 11, 2017 @ 03:11 amOffline

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Who is Hashimoto? Miyamoto's cousin?

Pestilence

June 11, 2017 @ 03:13 amOffline

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Recon
Who is Hashimoto? Miyamoto's cousin?


Executive Producer of KH series.

Alpha Baymax

June 11, 2017 @ 03:23 amOffline

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Pestilence
Hashimoto being there isn't exactly telling, calm down lol.


Actually, it's telling. He never made it to the London orchestra event that I attended, so get hyped!

CrystalRaine
Wow, I was skeptical at first, but Hashimoto being there makes me think they have something big to announce. Did he attend any of the other orchestra dates?


KH13 covered the London and France events, and he didn't attend either of those either.

Pestilence

June 11, 2017 @ 03:25 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
Actually, it's telling. He never made it to the London orchestra event that I attended, so get hyped!

Well, we will know very soon.

Just remember that he could be hanging about just for E3 too.

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 03:27 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
Actually, it's telling. He never made it to the London orchestra event that I attended, so get hyped!



KH13 covered the London and France events, and he didn't attend either of those either.


He could just be there because he has to attend e3 for other square games...

Alpha Baymax

June 11, 2017 @ 03:29 amOffline

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Pestilence
Well, we will know very soon.

Just remember that he could be hanging about just for E3 too.


notnow123487
He could just be there because he has to attend e3 for other square games...


You two are so pessimistic right now. If you're confident that nothing new will come out of the event then take a break. What fun is it when you shoot down every plausible reason for Kingdom Hearts III to appear?

Pestilence

June 11, 2017 @ 03:33 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
You two are so pessimistic right now. If you're confident that nothing new will come out of the event then take a break. What fun is it when you shoot down every plausible reason for Kingdom Hearts III to appear?


It's hard to be optimistic sometimes with Square's track record.

Launchpad

June 11, 2017 @ 03:37 amOffline

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yes, fight each other!!! the malcontent nature of your discussion pleases me!!!

I'm rapidly refreshing twitter for kingdom hearts stuff from attendees. Hopefully we get some info soon.

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June 11, 2017 @ 03:40 amOffline

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Launchpad
I'm rapidly refreshing twitter for kingdom hearts stuff from attendees. Hopefully we get some info soon.

Same, I feel like a madman right now, haha!

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June 11, 2017 @ 03:48 amOffline

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Launchpad
yes, fight each other!!! the malcontent nature of your discussion pleases me!!!

I'm rapidly refreshing twitter for kingdom hearts stuff from attendees. Hopefully we get some info soon.




Literally you right now.

EDIT: Just opened up twitter myself to find that HOLY SHIT KH is trending! lol

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 03:55 amOffline

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Sdog


Literally you right now.

EDIT: Just opened up twitter myself to find that HOLY SHIT KH is trending! lol


Its not trending in the US? Are you sure it's not your catered trends?

Precursor Mar

June 11, 2017 @ 03:55 amOffline

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Judging from these recent posts, I'd say the concert is still going?

Chaser

June 11, 2017 @ 04:01 amOffline

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Precursor Mar
Judging from these recent posts, I'd say the concert is still going?

Yeah. It started late as well.

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 04:05 amOffline

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Chaser
Yeah. It started late as well.


How late? /////////:::://::::

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kingsoraful

June 11, 2017 @ 04:05 amOffline

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They're reached intermission. If they're getting a trailer tonight it'll be after the concert. As a goodbye gift and thank you for attending.

I hope if they get a trailer they put it online.

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 04:13 amOffline

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kingsoraful
They're reached intermission. If they're getting a trailer tonight it'll be after the concert. As a goodbye gift and thank you for attending.

I hope if they get a trailer they put it online.


i wouldn't expect it anywhere else than as an encore.

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kingsoraful

June 11, 2017 @ 04:14 amOffline

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notnow123487
i wouldn't expect it anywhere else than as an encore.


They have the trailer premiere tonight as a treat for those that attend and then we get it Monday at Sony's E3 Press Conference.

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 05:15 amOffline

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Is it over yet? Can we bathe in sorrow yet?

Muke

June 11, 2017 @ 05:17 amOffline

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notnow123487
Is it over yet? Can we bathe in sorrow yet?

Still about an hour

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 05:20 amOffline

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Muke
Still about an hour


Oh really it's that long? Awesome. I thought it wouldn't be more than two hours and the silence was everyone drowning in their tears in unison.

edit: OMFG

https://twitter.com/redmakuzawa/status/873771813548957696

its happening omg everyone to their stations.

CrystalRaine

June 11, 2017 @ 05:22 amOffline

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Nomura has arrived, people! Is this really happening? :O

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 05:23 amOffline

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CrystalRaine
Nomura has arrived, people! Is this really happening? :O


This is it. We made it. Holy cow

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June 11, 2017 @ 05:25 amOffline

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notnow123487
Oh really it's that long? Awesome. I thought it wouldn't be more than two hours and the silence was everyone drowning in their tears in unison.

edit: OMFG

https://twitter.com/redmakuzawa/status/873771813548957696

its happening omg everyone to their stations.

Man, dude is half a world away from the concert why didn't you link someone who's actually there like Churro or Alexa Ray lmao.

Muke

June 11, 2017 @ 05:26 amOffline

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nomura on stage. from churroz https://twitter.com/churroz

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 05:26 amOffline

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Chaser
Man, dude is half a world away from the concert why didn't you link someone who's actually there like Churro or Alexa Ray lmao.


Because he tweeted before any of your retweets came through lol.

THEYRE SHOWING IT NOW.

Squood!

June 11, 2017 @ 05:26 amOffline

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CrystalRaine
Nomura has arrived, people! Is this really happening? :O

He's probably there to listen to the music.......OR ATTACK US WITH A GIANT COFFEE MUG

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 05:27 amOffline

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They're showing it now omg.

Muke

June 11, 2017 @ 05:27 amOffline

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[FONT="]KH3 will not be at E3 but they're showing it NOw[/FONT]


https://twitter.com/churroz/status/873773282167631872

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ultima-demi

June 11, 2017 @ 05:29 amOffline

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I hope there's a new world reveal in this trailer.

Sonicfan2525

June 11, 2017 @ 05:29 amOffline

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OH DEAR NEPTUNE GOD I HOPE ITS ONLINE VERY SOON!

Dandelion

June 11, 2017 @ 05:29 amOffline

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The trailer will be up on official channels soon, everybody sit tight.

thedairyfairy

June 11, 2017 @ 05:32 amOffline

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THEY SAID THEY'D NEVER SHOW A TRAILER AT A CONCERT, AND THEY DID I FUCKING LOVE YOU NOMURA

Muke

June 11, 2017 @ 05:33 amOffline

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I've seen it, I love it. Rain is AWESOME. Lots of gameplay. Not gonna spoil but if anybody wants to know:
Pete, Hades, Maleficent, lots of Titan, lots of gameplay, Xemnas in TWTNW

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notnow123487

June 11, 2017 @ 05:34 amOffline

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Muke
I've seen it, I love it. Rain is AWESOME. Lots of gameplay. Not gonna spoil but if anybody wants to know:
Pete, Hades, Maleficent, lots of Titan, lots of gameplay, Xemnas in TWTNW


Plus another trailer at d23 omg. I feel like that's gonna be a blowout. It's happening it's all happening.

Sonicfan2525

June 11, 2017 @ 05:34 amOffline

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I just seen some footage from the live feed Churro did. OH. MY. GOD. It was beautiful! Can't wait to see the officially uploaded version! And the fact that we are getting a new world reveal and ANOTHER trailer next month at D23 is INSANE!

Muke

June 11, 2017 @ 05:34 amOffline

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trailer: [video=youtube;p51wHlWY1uM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p51wHlWY1uM[/video]

Alpha Baymax

June 11, 2017 @ 06:07 amOffline

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Muke
trailer: [video=youtube;p51wHlWY1uM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p51wHlWY1uM[/video]


I LOVE IT WHEN I'M RIGHT! :p

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