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Dengeki Playstation interviews Nomura on Kingdom Hearts 3

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Dengeki Playstation had the opportunity to interview Series Director Tetsuya Nomura on Kingdom Hearts III. He discusses plans for upcoming DLC, Critical Mode, and various end-game plot points.

Read the full interview, translated by goldpanner!

--It's been almost 17 years since Kingdom Hearts released on March 28 2002. And, in Kingdom Hearts III, we have come to a point of punctuation: the end of the "Dark Seeker Saga," which has lasted for these past 17 years. The worldwide release of KH3 was a success, with over 5 million units sold. Having received such a large response all over the world, please tell us what you're feeling about getting here.

Nomura: In the way of numbers, looking at the exact data that includes digital copies, it's a great result that has completely passed my expectations. We are currently beginning work on DLC, so it doesn't feel like it's over yet. I'm actually getting less sleep post-release.

--There's a form that appears called "Rage Form," which reminds us of the "Anti Form" from KH2. What is the setup behind that?

Nomura: The forms in this title are very different from that of KH2, so we decided to change all the names. Rage does indeed have characteristics that are reminiscent of Anti, but it's basically a separate thing setup wise. Anti is based on Sora getting completely stained in darkness, but Rage doesn't go quite that far. It's based on him going into a rampage state, controlled by feelings of anger.

--There's no "Critical Mode" difficulty level in this game. Was there a reason you didn't include it?

Nomura: Critical Mode wasn't originally in the base versions of the game, they were an extra feature we added to the Final Mix versions. So, we will be following that and releasing it for download later on. It's not simply a matter of changing numbers and making things stronger; we fine-tune and debug multiple times. We are polishing things to make sure it's not simply a "more difficult mode," and is as fun as you would expect from Critical.

--Among the worlds, we felt that the plot in the Big Hero 6 world had rather daring plot developments. Most of the worlds in KH3 were new to the series. Can you tell us which world's story left the deepest impression on you, or any stories from development?

Nomura: Toy Story was the first plot we worked on. The scenario took over 2 years to complete, and we even went and consulted directly with Pixar. It's a symbol of the beginning of KH3, and as such is the one I have the deepest memories of.

--There are several Organisation members whose original names are still unknown. Will we have a chance to learn them someday, or to find out about the scar on Isa's face?

Nomura: If there is a sequel, then that chance may come. But in my heart right now my desire is a blank page.

--The process behind reviving Ventus and Roxas was fairly easy to understand, but how was Xion brought back, and how did she end up in the New Organisation XIII?

Nomura: I think it's possible to figure it out for yourself. However, I do plan to explain it in DLC.

--Many people who have finished KH3 are interested in the "girl" that Lea and Isa were looking for, and the existence of the "NAMELESS STAR" in the Final World. Can you give us any kind of hint about the truth behind these girls? Are they characters who have already appeared in the series?

Nomura: I think this is also possible to figure out for yourself if you look at all the secret reports, but yes, they are characters who have already appeared in the series. You will find out who "NAMELESS STAR" if there is a next time.

--What is Scala ad Caelum, the place which also appeared in the final trailer? It looks similar to Daybreak Town from Kingdom Hearts Union Cross - is there some kind of connection? Also, who were the black-clothed figures that appeared there?

Nomura: I've made it so that you should be able to understand the connection between Scala ad Caelum and Daybreak Town, if you look carefully. The black-clothed figures are replicas.

--Please give us a comment, if you can, regarding the post-release download epilogue and secret movie. We are interested in the existence of Yozora from VERUM REX, who also appeared in Toy Box.

Nomura: As I have done in the past, it is an introduction to the story I will tell if there is a next time. I know there is all kinds of speculation regarding the secret movie, but it's not something simple that could be understood at this point in time.

--Finishing KH3 got us even more interested in the plot of KHUX. Please tell us what is in store for us there.

Nomura: We are approaching a development that brings a new world. Along with it, the main story is going to get moving in a big way, and pieces that have been a mystery until now will begin to gather.

--Please tell us about your plans for post-release updates and DLC. Is there the potential for something like a Final Mix? What is coming next in the Kingdom Hearts series?

Nomura: Up until now, we have created Final Mixes as separate packages. However, this time I am hoping to release all extra elements as DLC. We are planning to release free DLC as updates once each piece of content is finished. We are also planning to release several features together in one batch as paid DLC. This means that it will take a little more time to work on, but I do want to finish it as early as possible this year and have the team start work on our next project. As for the future of the KH series - there have been some talks, but the ifs and whats are truly a blank page right now. My schedule is completely full for the rest of the year.

--Sky Tree, the Ambassador Hotel, Square Enix Cafe, Walkman, and the upcoming concert world tour: KH3 has certainly been showcased through a humongous number of channels. Which were most memorable to you? Is there anything else still to come?

Nomura: I was surprised by the Ambassador Hotel one. I was grateful for each and every collaboration. I think that perhaps for now, we have seen everything that can be announced.

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NoWay

February 27, 2019 @ 04:25 pmOffline

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I think this confirms Strelitzia as the Nameless Star

gosoxtim

February 27, 2019 @ 04:39 pmOffline

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look like x is skuld and nameless is strealizia

furusatoe

February 27, 2019 @ 04:44 pmOffline

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Thank god he's expanding on Xion's subplot in DLC.

AdrianXXII

February 27, 2019 @ 04:49 pmOffline

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Sounds like we'll be getting a few free updates, if i understand him right. That's cool. I wonder what those will include and what the difference between the updates and DLC will be.

DefiantHeart

February 27, 2019 @ 04:54 pmOffline

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Honestly, I'm mostly hoping that the dlc will finally make Kairi playable, that's one of things that upset me most.

gosoxtim

February 27, 2019 @ 04:58 pmOffline

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why does nomura sound disaopinted and espially when when maybe if there a next time

FudgemintGuardian

February 27, 2019 @ 05:01 pmOffline

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--There are several Organisation members whose original names are still unknown. Will we have a chance to learn them someday, or to find out about the scar on Isa's face?

Nomura: If there is a sequel, then that chance may come. But in my heart right now my desire is a blank page.


And yet he already set it up so that we should be finding out their names eventually. lol

Tell me how Isa got his scar darn it!




--The process behind reviving Ventus and Roxas was fairly easy to understand, but how was Xion brought back, and how did she end up in the New Organisation XIII?


Nomura:

I think it's possible to figure it out for yourself.


No it isn't! >:(



However, I do plan to explain it in DLC.


Ha! So you admit it's not!


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So Nomura pretty much confirmed that Subject X is Skuld.

Oracle Spockanort

February 27, 2019 @ 05:15 pmOffline

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THANK YOU FOR XION DLC. I’ll never not be upset that we saw Roxas’ heart fly out but not Xion’s (SHHH DANDELION)

Zettaflare

February 27, 2019 @ 05:23 pmOffline

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Nomura has no desire to explain Isa's scar? That's odd considering he showed how Eraqus and Braig got scarred. And its X shaped which makes it all the more significant.

I still think with the Organization recieved Xion's heart via time travel

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DarkosOverlord

February 27, 2019 @ 05:29 pmOffline

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Why are y'all so interested about Isa's scar

Boy obviously face-planted himself onto the X when Xemnas was doing the floaty letters thing to show his loyalty

Alpha Baymax

February 27, 2019 @ 05:31 pmOffline

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Well then, time to expect some Kingdom Hearts III news for D23.

furusatoe
Thank god he's expanding on Xion's subplot in DLC.


The secret reports literally state how certain characters were able to be revived, I don't understand peoples confusion here.

If anyone needs further contextualisation through DLC, it's Roxas.

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ultima-demi

February 27, 2019 @ 05:35 pmOffline

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I'm sad we have to wait so long till we see Skuld and Strelitiza in HD.

alexis.anagram

February 27, 2019 @ 05:37 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax

If anyone needs further contextualisation through DLC, it's Roxas.

Everyone and everything needs further contextualization, but Nomura will slap an exposition Band-Aid over one or two mysteries and call it a day.

Fully expect the DLC about Xion not to feature Xion.

Insomniac

February 27, 2019 @ 06:04 pmOffline

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All this plus the KH3 Ultimania releases tomorrow. What an informative time to be a Kingdom Hearts fan!

I can’t wait to found out more about the black box.

k99y77

February 27, 2019 @ 06:04 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
why does nomura sound disaopinted and espially when when maybe if there a next time

Good thing I'm not the only one who noticed, due to great sales of KH3 the series will likely have another big game whether he was involved or not. Maybe he's thinking of leaving Square Enix in the future? I hope not (not until he finishes KH at least).

Raz

February 27, 2019 @ 06:18 pmOffline

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Nomura sounds depressed.

Also it is low-key ridiculous we don't have all of the somebody's names yet.

alexis.anagram

February 27, 2019 @ 06:34 pmOffline

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Nomura: IF

Me:


Nomura has already confirmed this won't be the end of the series on a number of occasions though, so I wonder if he's just being coy here or if PR told him to stop announcing things before they tell him to announce things. After all, Nomura may have a plan for another KH game, but who knows what SE (and Disney) have in mind.

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The Kid

February 27, 2019 @ 06:44 pmOffline

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Based on what it seems like, there won't be another Kingdom Hearts game for a long time which was honestly expected. Considering Nomura is supposed to go full throttle into the Final Fantasy VII Remake, I think that will take precedent over any KH tile (or any Square game).

I remember reading that the plan was for Nomura to completely shift his focus to that after KH3 came out. If it ends up being episodic, we could even have to wait longer for the next game

kaseykockroach

February 27, 2019 @ 07:24 pmOffline

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I didn’t need Critical with KH2 because most of KH2’s battle options were useless (especially Drive forms). Proud was enough for me.
KH3’s options are much more fun to use, so I’m actually up for trying Critical here!

shuyin_zer0

February 27, 2019 @ 07:33 pmOffline

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Y’all, don’t look too much into the “if.”
It’s just Nomura being Nomura until the next game is announced

Oracle Spockanort

February 27, 2019 @ 07:58 pmOffline

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Raz
Nomura sounds depressed.

Also it is low-key ridiculous we don't have all of the somebody's names yet.


Nomura is probably depressed we are all still talking about ships after he threw a million UX bombs at us.

Or the fact that he has to focus on VIIR rather than working on KH 7 Days Versus XIII

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GrandWebster

February 27, 2019 @ 08:01 pmOffline

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The Kid
Based on what it seems like, there won't be another Kingdom Hearts game for a long time which was honestly expected. Considering Nomura is supposed to go full throttle into the Final Fantasy VII Remake, I think that will take precedent over any KH tile (or any Square game).

I remember reading that the plan was for Nomura to completely shift his focus to that after KH3 came out. If it ends up being episodic, we could even have to wait longer for the next game


I would think he knew of the wait for this game, But im still betting on 2023 for the next game

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The Kid

February 27, 2019 @ 08:08 pmOffline

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GrandWebster
I would think he knew of the wait for this game, But im still betting on 2023 for the next game

I can only see that if it's another smallish game. If FFVIIR really is gonna be multiple games, I reckon the wait will be longer. I don't think he'd start KH4 until that is finished

Sign

February 27, 2019 @ 08:18 pmOffline

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The Kid
Based on what it seems like, there won't be another Kingdom Hearts game for a long time which was honestly expected. Considering Nomura is supposed to go full throttle into the Final Fantasy VII Remake, I think that will take precedent over any KH tile (or any Square game).

I remember reading that the plan was for Nomura to completely shift his focus to that after KH3 came out. If it ends up being episodic, we could even have to wait longer for the next game


Osaka Team will continue working on the DLC so they can release it within the year, and then they'll move on to the next game. If Square Enix greenlights KH4 or whatever the next installment will be, then that's what they'll probably jump to. Nomura doesn't have the authority to decide on a whim what he wants to work on or when he wants to do so.

Sorakh212

February 27, 2019 @ 08:20 pmOffline

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I figured it was only a matter of time but man is it relieving to have official confirmation about DLC especially a Critical mode. Hope they also implement a NG+ and that this big package one is worth both the wait and price.
I'm also concerned about Nomura though. Dude's obviously lighting the candle at both ends and he sounds kinda depressed or maybe just exhausted and worn out from everything. Japan has a very crazy work environment after all even to the point where some work themselves death. Hope he's managing to get some R&R and maybe even take a vacation soon.

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Deleted member

February 27, 2019 @ 08:25 pmOffline

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At first I thought all this talk of desiring a blank page was meant as a "I want to start the saga off with a fresh start and don't want to concern myself too much with answering random lingering things from the past one" but the more it is brought up in this interview, and the way he keeps saying "if there is a next time", and the way this part is phrased ("I do want to finish it as early as possible this year and have the team start work on our next project. As for the future of the KH series...") almost makes it sound like the blank page he wants is a completely new, non-KH title, and that Osaka will move onto make this game before any continuation of KH? Hm.

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GrandWebster

February 27, 2019 @ 08:27 pmOffline

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The Kid
I can only see that if it's another smallish game. If FFVIIR really is gonna be multiple games, I reckon the wait will be longer. I don't think he'd start KH4 until that is finished

I wouldn't imagine it to be that small, because this was the end of a Saga, so naturally certain elements should end in a satisfying way, but because KH4 or whatever the next title be called will be a Fresh Start, but still carry certain plot elements from KH3, they wouldn't have to go too far with it. Seeing the amount of Sequel hooks in KH3 tells me this.

Plus its pretty common for any developer to stay vague and not directly confirm a sequel when talking about the next entry in their series after the current one has only just come out, that's just standard game-industry buisness. This game has only been out for a month anyway.

Also, the things on FFVII remake is still up in the air, because there is an event on April for Square Enix. Nomura commented about FFVII news this year, But I don't think they'll release all three in one bundle, possible but I doubt it.
All I'm saying with them getting Engine down for KH3, I don't get why it has to be so different, and seeing the sales, ratings and money. I think the next KH entry can come sooner than you think. 2023-2024 around there is the safest bet.

Recon

February 27, 2019 @ 08:28 pmOffline

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The interviewer asked good questions and Nomura hit him with most bland answers (except for the DLC stuff which I’m excited for). But when Nomura says things like it’s simple to understand, then give him the answer if it’s so simple. He wouldn’t be asking if it was Einstein. I swear he does it for three questions in row saying “you should understand” and “you can figure it out” well dude it’s clearly questionable if someone is asking lol.

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February 27, 2019 @ 08:32 pmOffline

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Recon
The interviewer asked good questions and Nomura hit him with most bland answers (except for the DLC stuff which I’m excited for). But when Nomura says things like it’s simple to understand, then give him the answer if it’s so simple. He wouldn’t be asking if it was Einstein. I swear he does it for three questions in row saying “you should understand” and “you can figure it out” well dude it’s clearly questionable if someone is asking lol.

Well maybe he's finally realizing that putting in mysterious elements to get discussions going amongst your friends post-game is meaningless if in the next interview he just says "no, it's this" and point-blank ends all discussion.

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GrandWebster

February 27, 2019 @ 08:33 pmOffline

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Audo
At first I thought all this talk of desiring a blank page was meant as a "I want to start the saga off with a fresh start and don't want to concern myself too much with answering random lingering things from the past one" but the more it is brought up in this interview, and the way he keeps saying "if there is a next time", and the way this part is phrased ("I do want to finish it as early as possible this year and have the team start work on our next project. As for the future of the KH series...") almost makes it sound like the blank page he wants is a completely new, non-KH title, and that Osaka will move onto make this game before any continuation of KH? Hm.


I think this "Blank Page" people should take with a grain of salt,

KH3 is been out for only a month, Nomura shouldn't be revealing whats next for the franchise, its just natural for a game-industry to keep things in the dark, because thats like asking for a new Smash game even though Ultimate just barely came out.

Square Enix has more franchises that doesn't involve Nomura like The Avengers Project with Disney. With The Sequel hooks in KH3, leaving it like that, its impossible.

Sora2016

February 27, 2019 @ 08:35 pmOffline

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Yeah I am actually kind of uncomfortable with the blank sheet and if discussion. I guess if he wants to do another game in the middle he should, but then I really don't understand why he wrote the ending the way he did to just string it along for so long.

Now I'm more concerned about this than being excited about the DLC lol. But I guess I also heard about the Xion thing around the internet already so I was already happy that will be addressed further.

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The Kid

February 27, 2019 @ 08:36 pmOffline

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Sign
Osaka Team will continue working on the DLC so they can release it within the year, and then they'll move on to the next game. If Square Enix greenlights KH4 or whatever the next installment will be, then that's what they'll probably jump to. Nomura doesn't have the authority to decide on a whim what he wants to work on or when he wants to do so.

Who knows, you could be right. But IIRC Disney wanted a KH3 soon after KH2 came out and Nomura was able to decline and put if off. It seems like he has almost complete creative control of the franchise. I don't think they'll just give it to someone else in the company and I don't see them pulling resources from what is a remake of Square's most successful game ever

That said, it is possible that Nomura will slowly start work on the next game once FFVIIR is finishing and then puts full energy once it's released. Or maybe he simultaneously just works on both projects at the same time. Who knows? I'm just speculating at this point lol but based on his wording, it doesn't sound like he has the next game planned out at all right now and when you consider he will be shifting focus to a whole different game, we may have to wait

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GrandWebster

February 27, 2019 @ 08:44 pmOffline

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Its not like games between KH2 and KH3 don't matter. As long as its Disney-related.

But Nomura already hinted about FFVII news this year by responding "7" at the beginning of the year, Plus with event taking place in April in Japan. I would imagine that there could be something FFVII news, because I do believe a late 2020 release is plausible. However thats something we'll have to wait on.

But I think its best to keep KH4 or whatever is next in the dark and don't talk about it much, I would like for Nomura to come back refreshed and don't go too Ham for KH next installment, keep things at cool but also carry some of the unanswer plotpoints of KH3.

mriku90

February 27, 2019 @ 08:45 pmOffline

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Nomura is just being Nomura. He's not going to announce the next game until it's ready to be announced. Of course there will be another game but until it's announced he won't say anything more. This has literally been his memo since the beginning of KH.

Disney is probably gonna want another game within 3-4 years I imagine and with those sales I think it's understandable why and I think 2022 will be the next KH game I imagine.

MATGSY

February 27, 2019 @ 08:47 pmOffline

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Oracle Spockanort
Nomura is probably depressed we are all still talking about ships after he threw a million UX bombs at us.

Or the fact that he has to focus on VIIR rather than working on KH 7 Days Versus XIII


Depressed that we just didn't understand his grand master plan with Kairi.

Elysium

February 27, 2019 @ 09:13 pmOffline

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His comments about a Final Mix are pretty much what I expected. I didn't believe there would be a physical release a la the FMs of the past like others have speculated on this forum before. :frown:

The Kid
Who knows, you could be right. But IIRC Disney wanted a KH3 soon after KH2 came out and Nomura was able to decline and put if off. It seems like he has almost complete creative control of the franchise.


Is that true? Too bad Disney, Square, or someone didn't put their foot down a long time ago. Maybe we wouldn't have got a KH3 that was incredibly and unnecessarily affected by bitterness over XV, that feels in many ways as if he was ready to just be done with this saga and its storylines (despite the fact that he was the reason it dragged on and on this long in the first f-ing place), and wouldn't have had to wait for years and years.

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Deleted member

February 27, 2019 @ 09:21 pmOffline

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They didn't specifically want KH3, they just wanted more games. This is why the post-credit scene with them finding the letter was added.

Sephiroth0812

February 27, 2019 @ 09:23 pmOffline

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Maybe Nomura just needs a damn break for once, also to get a hold of himself about the whole XV-saltmine.

Depending on where the FF 7 remake stands development wise there might simply be not much room to squeeze in new KH stuff beyond the KH III DLC right away.

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Ggrzeg

February 27, 2019 @ 09:27 pmOffline

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:wink:! Why am I not the least bit surprised that Nomura is not interested in explaining Isa's scar? Hmm. Let me guess. Maybe because he already used that particular backstory, but gave it to Skuld instead to retcon her in? I would bet any money that "Subject X" was supposed to be freakin Isa and not Skuld. This is directly from the Ultimania:


[FONT=Roboto]"As [/FONT]

[FONT=Roboto]your flesh bears the sigil[/FONT]

[FONT=Roboto], so [/FONT]

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[FONT=Roboto] name shall be known as that of a Recusant.[/FONT]

[FONT=Roboto]" -Xemnas

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[FONT=Roboto]Xehanort may have have had his sights on Sora in DDD, but there is only one character in the series who bears the sigil on his flesh. It was HEAVILY implied that Isa and Lea (or at the very least Isa) were experimented on in after they snuck into the castle as teens. It would explain why Isa changed from a nice cute kid into such an...abomination. It would explain why he was branded and has the scar, gold eyes and pointy ears. It would explain why he was whisked away before he even woke up in DDD. And why his eye color was tweaked to be orange instead of yellow. And maybe even why he goes berserk with the moon,
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It would explain weird little comments like this from Xigbar. He goes even further in the novels, doing it a second time at a later point in the story. Just to let us know it means something significant. He says, "Don't let us down, kiddo. Shouldn't be too much trouble without a heart." He's mocking him and calling him a kid without a heart. So what the heck does THAT mean? Sounds like Saix has been Norted and he doesn't even know it. Could that have been why Saix had such utter contempt or Xion to a degree that surprised even Roxas and Axel? Because he has some unconscious awareness that they are the same?

When Xion first fights Riku in the Days novel, she says, "He had some kind of power-something that gave her that weird feeling when she fought him. Like a Saix aura. Who was he?" Interesting that she compared Riku with Ansem Seeker of Darkness in him as a "Saix aura".
"Remember the Heartless experiments were mind control experiments, to get it to "renounce its sense of self", according to Xemnas. Which is exactly what the Recusant's Sigil is. The story cues set up make it seem like Saix was one of the very first successful vessels Terranort created from those experiments. Just an interesting visual cue about the two artworks above. In both of them, Saix is right behind Xemnas. And in the first piece, Saix is the only one looking at the "camera". And in the second one, he's the only one looking away from the "camera". It doesn't prove anything, but it is just something that makes Saix seem a bit "off" to me. Out of anyone else in the Organization, he just looks totally brainwashed and mind-controlled.

The idea that he and Lea were doing everything they did in Organization XIII just for some girl they met a few times in the shadows is just...laughable. And I don't buy for a single second that the emotionally dead Saix of all people was acting all for the sake of a girl. Give me a break. That is so out of character it isn't even funny. Saix? The most "Nobody-like" of anyone in the Organization is carrying such strong feelings for some random girl? Please. Even Isa chided Lea for "picking up stray puppies". He seemed like the type of guy that didn't get too attached to people very easily. But he is going to trade away his humanity just to find a random girl he barely knows anything about? What a JOKE. I'm sorry for the rant everyone, but Isa in BBS was one of my favorite characters. There was just something about his and Lea's affectionate sarcasm that I found really charming and endearing, since I am very similar. And I found the evolution of Isa-->Saix very fascinating and wanted to know what exactly happened to him. The handling of Isa's character had to be the single biggest thing to anger me from KH3. Horrible writing and I will not cut Nomura any slack about how awful it was.

SuperSaiyanSora

February 27, 2019 @ 09:43 pmOffline

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Sephiroth0812
Maybe Nomura just needs a damn break for once, also to get a hold of himself about the whole XV-saltmine.

Depending on where the FF 7 remake stands development wise there might simply be not much room to squeeze in new KH stuff beyond the KH III DLC right away.



This is what I think is really going on. The man's schedule is so jam-packed, and KH3 released at the end of January, we're just about to hit March. It's also pretty clear that from here on, his focus is going to be on FF7's remake and whatever else that takes priority.

He's been working on Kingdom Hearts non-stop, so he's probably just burnt out. Add to the fact that both the remake and KH3 are titles with a huge amount of pressure that come with it, I could see why he'd say something like "if". To me, KH3 delivered on what I wanted, might not be a perfect masterpiece, but it didn't need to be. So, I'm okay with waiting for a bit now, I'm full-speed ahead for the FF7 Remake. The paid DLC should be enough to tide me over.

Also, I realize that this is a hot take, but I actually loved the XV/Versus stuff in KH3. I personally don't mind the salt, but I can see why many wouldn't like it. If he can reuse ideas from a game that never got to see the light of day (HIS version, at least), and make it work, I'm all for it. May as well not let it go to waste, if he feels this passionate about it.

Twilight Lumiair

February 27, 2019 @ 09:59 pmOffline

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Not entirely sure how to feel about this interview tbh.
Not particularly excited for the Xion explanation DLC since A) she barely did or said anything in the game anyway, and B) it should have already been made clear in the game's vanilla version.
Not the biggest fan of the flashy gameplay in general, but critical mode should at least help make it more fun and engaging (even if my first time experience is already kinda tainted due to it's absence).
Nomura's comments about the series' future don't exactly get me excited or intrigued (though honestly I had mixed feelings about what we've seen of the next saga's direction anyway), and part of me doubts that if and when it does continue, the writing issues with the series are gonna get much better.

Neo_

February 27, 2019 @ 10:58 pmOffline

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Recon
The interviewer asked good questions and Nomura hit him with most bland answers (except for the DLC stuff which I’m excited for). But when Nomura says things like it’s simple to understand, then give him the answer if it’s so simple. He wouldn’t be asking if it was Einstein. I swear he does it for three questions in row saying “you should understand” and “you can figure it out” well dude it’s clearly questionable if someone is asking lol.

This interview was so bad hahaha: "Figure it yourself" or "tbd", hahaha.

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metro96

February 27, 2019 @ 11:00 pmOffline

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SuperSaiyanSora
This is what I think is really going on. The man's schedule is so jam-packed, and KH3 released at the end of January, we're just about to hit March. It's also pretty clear that from here on, his focus is going to be on FF7's remake and whatever else that takes priority.

He's been working on Kingdom Hearts non-stop, so he's probably just burnt out. Add to the fact that both the remake and KH3 are titles with a huge amount of pressure that come with it, I could see why he'd say something like "if". To me, KH3 delivered on what I wanted, might not be a perfect masterpiece, but it didn't need to be. So, I'm okay with waiting for a bit now, I'm full-speed ahead for the FF7 Remake. The paid DLC should be enough to tide me over.

Also, I realize that this is a hot take, but I actually loved the XV/Versus stuff in KH3. I personally don't mind the salt, but I can see why many wouldn't like it. If he can reuse ideas from a game that never got to see the light of day (HIS version, at least), and make it work, I'm all for it. May as well not let it go to waste, if he feels this passionate about it.


Still though, why commit yourself to releasing the epilogue and secret movie if you’re unsure if you’re going to do another chapter of the story any time soon. Since this was the end to a saga that spanned almost two decades, you could’ve left with the bittersweet resolution that came with the ending, and then only release the Epilogue and Secret Ending once you’ve locked in that you’re doing another game. Instead, the Epilogue and Secret Movie will hang out there for who knows how long without anything to drive the story forward. I still think it’s a huge business mistake to not release some sort of console game in the next couple years; it was one thing to wait all that time to get the conclusion of the Dark Seeker Saga, but it’s another to wait 4+ years to start a new story. I worry that the Kingdom Hearts series will lose its momentum

Saken

February 28, 2019 @ 12:05 amOffline

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Doesn’t it irk anyone else the fact that every “explanation” is just thrown onto the braindead cop-out reason that is replicas?

Sign

February 28, 2019 @ 12:06 amOffline

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Dunno why people are so upset that Nomura didn't give detailed answers for everything. It's not like we don't have a 736-page guidebook releasing today that has way more in-depth interviews, no sir.

kaseykockroach

February 28, 2019 @ 12:12 amOffline

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"WHERE DID ISA GET THAT SCAR"
"Probably got scratched by an angry cat? I don't know, dude, let me sleep"

FudgemintGuardian

February 28, 2019 @ 12:33 amOffline

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kaseykockroach
"WHERE DID ISA GET THAT SCAR"
"Probably got scratched by an angry cat? I don't know, dude, let me sleep"

Apprentice Xeehanort decided to slice some bread for Isa, but accidentally fell and gave Isa an X-shaped scar on his face.

Hirokey123

February 28, 2019 @ 01:07 amOffline

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Reading the posts in this topic strongly make me think I should dust off my old "Xion's return explained: Now with pictures" topic idea and post it over in the spoilers since it's clear a lot of people here didn't get how Xion returned and that Nomura is absolutely right when he says you can figure it out from just what the game gives alone.

furusatoe

February 28, 2019 @ 01:13 amOffline

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Something as big as the reason for Xion's return simply shouldn't be sequestered into a side report players may or may not read. It should be part of the main narrative, regardless of whether you can piece the puzzle together by reading the reports.

Hirokey123

February 28, 2019 @ 01:34 amOffline

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furusatoe
Something as big as the reason for Xion's return simply shouldn't be sequestered into a side report players may or may not read. It should be part of the main narrative, regardless of whether you can piece the puzzle together by reading the reports.

It literally is part of the main narrative, almost everything the organization does in this game and like half the scenes with the heroes are all building up and explaining it.

Zul

February 28, 2019 @ 01:47 amOffline

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My old headcanon for Isa's scar was when Apprentice Xehanort stabbed Xigbar, he then did that to all the other apprentices, then went to Isa and Lea who were being kept in one of the cells near the chamber of repose. Isa jumped in front of Lea to protect him, and got slashed twice.

FudgemintGuardian

February 28, 2019 @ 02:14 amOffline

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Hirokey123
It literally is part of the main narrative, almost everything the organization does in this game and like half the scenes with the heroes are all building up and explaining it.
Except after all that build up...she's still appears there without explanation. Nomura pretty much admits this in his answer. We can figure out why she's there, but not how she's there. Something is missing between the build up and payoff.

Otherwise there wouldn't be DLC, something that had to have been decided on at some point during KH3's development, that will explain it.

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DarkosOverlord

February 28, 2019 @ 02:23 amOffline

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I'm amazed that people are out here defending Xion in KH III as something neatly explained by the game's narrative.
Three hearts in Sora that need to come out.
A HUGE deal gets made about Ventus, where every part of him is and the actual rescue.
A big deal gets made about Roxas, how to fetch the body necessary and him getting out, while still embrassingly quick and rushed, is still motivated by what should be a deeply emotional moment of crisis with multiple events occurring.

Xion should be in Sora, apparently isn't or at some point isn't anymore, is now in a Replica without any noticeable trigger, pretty uncerimoniously she now exists and no one takes notice of that meanwhile Vexen gets multiple cutscenes about his revival, is now a member of the Organization of literally the people she hates the most for no real reason and fights the people she should love the most for no real reason (again, don't give me any nonexistant Xehanort's will as an answer to that) but sure, let's say it was perfectly done and understandable.


To me all the build up is about Replicas and hearts in Sora in general, with no real context clues being given that could even start to explain Xion's full return.
Nomura basically showed me a guy with pickles stuck in the fridge with neither the tools to get them out and a jar to put them in, making that dude and several others repeat "there are pickles in the fridge" and "we need a jar to put the pickles in", and then it cuts to the guy holding a jar full of pickles.

I did not figure out how and why Xion was there at all and I don't think it was my fault for not noticing such an impossible happenstance.
I don't want to read any theory involving time travel, world lines, or "101 ways you didn't know Replicas could be used for!" to get it.
I shouldn't even need to "get it". It should just be as obvious and portrayed as any other rescue.
And less of all it should be described in an Ultimania or an interview. We'll see about the DLC.

This is like blaming people for not getting that Sora came back due to Kairi's Princess of Heart powers in KH1 or that he was only a heart for the time being and/or not wanting to read a written explanation about that.
Except those instances are essentially "lore" that does not alter the understanding of the main events, while Xion is one of the main characters in a game that boasted about being the resolution to every one of them and their storylines, and as far as me and many others are concerned, she just randomly appears influencing what's happening in that moment by a lot.
Even if I could get it by reading some detailed explanation or theory, which I probably could and it might even make sense... why should I? Why is that of all things requested of me? Like, imagine being a Xion fan but not understanding why that happened thus deeply affecting your emotional investment in the scene. Why should these people be forced to play Doctor Layton to get an answer out of that.

Advocating for less nuance in videogames isn't the most thrilling argument, I'm aware, but not everything should be a treasure hunt, despite how clearly this excites many people.

Hirokey123

February 28, 2019 @ 03:05 amOffline

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Except after all that build up...she's still appears there without explanation. Nomura pretty much admits this in his answer. We can figure out why she's there, but not how she's there. Something is missing between the build up and payoff.

Otherwise there wouldn't be DLC, something that had to have been decided on at some point during KH3's development, that will explain it.

Nomura says right there he believes you can figure it out yourself, he's always been one to not include direct explanations in the games themselves because he has a bad habit overestimating people's ability to connect the pieces he lays out until it's too late or more accurately he doesn't get that people don't connect and think things like him. Riku being behind the DtD and not trying to cross through, Roxas appearing out of nowhere to attack Sora and then suddenly being perfectly cool with Sora after their fight, Vanitas's face and Aqua planning to give Sora the ceremony but doesn't because of Riku, etc... I could make a huge list of things that Nomura has done this for. It's just how he writes, it's again a very bad habit of his and not just for this game honestly but any story he writes. There is nothing actually missing that is needed to understand Xion's return, all that isn't present is a scene where the game connects the pieces for you and those scenes generally do actually come around at some point but never in the first go around. The Final Mixes, Re:'s, and later games are where those explanations come in.

Just to be clear I think Nomura needs to stop this, that while it robs the mystery and appeal sometimes you have to bite that bullet and just spell things out. The secret reports themselves feel like the biggest misstep to me because they embody this bad habit. So much critical information and explanation are relegated to this multi-report text dumps when you could have so easily and organically incorporated almost all of it into the stories and they'd be stronger for it. Secret reports, Interviews, additional scenes added later, and/or making players wait nearly a decade for simple explanations like Vanitas face is something he needs to stop.

Chi has been the worst culprit of this in its entirety.

Sephiroth0812

February 28, 2019 @ 08:39 amOffline

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FudgemintGuardian
Except after all that build up...she's still appears there without explanation. Nomura pretty much admits this in his answer. We can figure out why she's there, but not how she's there. Something is missing between the build up and payoff.


That's something which goes for several parts of KH III doesn't it?
Having a big build up and then a largely contextual and unexplained pay off is the usual modus operandi for KH though so I'm neither hugely surprised nor upset that much.

It's annoying, yeah, no contest, but not worth losing sleep over.

2 quid is good

February 28, 2019 @ 10:06 amOffline

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Saken
Doesn’t it irk anyone else the fact that every “explanation” is just thrown onto the braindead cop-out reason that is replicas?


It honestly feels like Nomura suddenly remembered CoMs existence while he was figuring out how to untangle his mess

Alpha Baymax

February 28, 2019 @ 01:00 pmOffline

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I think it's time for everyone to accept that intentional ambiguity is a marketing tactic from Nomura to keep Kingdom Hearts discussion going, which is basically free marketing.

FudgemintGuardian

February 28, 2019 @ 03:13 pmOffline

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Hirokey123
Nomura says right there he believes you can figure it out yourself, he's always been one to not include direct explanations in the games themselves because he has a bad habit overestimating people's ability to connect the pieces he lays out until it's too late or more accurately he doesn't get that people don't connect and think things like him. Riku being behind the DtD and not trying to cross through, Roxas appearing out of nowhere to attack Sora and then suddenly being perfectly cool with Sora after their fight, Vanitas's face and Aqua planning to give Sora the ceremony but doesn't because of Riku, etc...
I'm not sure those are the best examples because those either have the explanation right there or it's easy to give a reason for. Being at Memory Skyscraper triggered Roxas but seeing Sora's friends on the stained glass made him realize the kind of person Sora is. We know at the end of BBS that Ven and Sora are connected so we can figure that Vanitas looks like Sora because of that connection. Aqua explicitly says why she doesn't do the Keyblade Ceremony with Sora.



I could make a huge list of things that Nomura has done this for. It's just how he writes, it's again a very bad habit of his and not just for this game honestly but any story he writes. There is nothing actually missing that is needed to understand Xion's return, all that isn't present is a scene where the game connects the pieces for you and those scenes generally do actually come around at some point but never in the first go around. The Final Mixes, Re:'s, and later games are where those explanations come in.

In other the scene that is needed for it to make sense. No one is expecting the story to hold our hands. We do just fine in connecting the pieces when they're there, and that's the issue. Not all the pieces are there. We have the border and the very middle but we're missing everything else.


Sephiroth0812
That's something which goes for several parts of KH III doesn't it?
Having a big build up and then a largely contextual and unexplained pay off is the usual modus operandi for KH though so I'm neither hugely surprised nor upset that much.

It's annoying, yeah, no contest, but not worth losing sleep over.
Oh yes, but we were specifically talking about Xion. lol


Not build up, but the Disney world's based on the films also suffer pretty badly with having some things not explained at all.

For a small example: How did Rapunzel get the satchel back? We know from the movie how but because that scene is absent in the game it makes no sense how she got it. She doesn't have it, and all of a sudden she does. It doesn't matter whether you watched the movie because if it didn't happen then it didn't happen.

How did Flynn get rescued?

Frozen and PotC were hit even harder (and yet somehow PotC's story didn't suck as much,) but I'll be here all day if I went at them. XD

saintfighteraqua

February 28, 2019 @ 06:47 pmOffline

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Sometimes I feel like Nomura is the darkest heart of all. He seems to revel in filling us with doubt and keeping hope just out of sight so we chase it but never truly have it. XD

drew0512

February 28, 2019 @ 10:31 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
I think it's time for everyone to accept that intentional ambiguity is a marketing tactic from Nomura to keep Kingdom Hearts discussion going, which is basically free marketing.


I agree and having to explain this after 17 years is disheartening, but it is what it is.

Sakuraba Neku

February 28, 2019 @ 11:22 pmOffline

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Can't say I'm surprised about the DLC stuff, because it was predictable it was coming.

As for KH4, if there will be such thing people shouldn't expect it anytime soon. Nomura has his plate full with a big FF title and we're kinda in the same boat we were after KH2.

I honestly would like him to focus only on the Kingdom Hearts franchise. It's more than obvious that two big games at the same time is too much. Final Fantasy 15 and Kingdom Hearts 3 are the proof of that. And considering the time is taking to reveal new information about Final Fantasy 7 remake, Square is about to release a third "half-assed" game.

mriku90

March 1, 2019 @ 04:21 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
I think it's time for everyone to accept that intentional ambiguity is a marketing tactic from Nomura to keep Kingdom Hearts discussion going, which is basically free marketing.


That is how he's always been. Your best bet for the text KH title will be in 3 years I imagine. Someone was suggesting that there's gonna be one side title before KH4 was that post accurate?



[INDENT]I honestly would like him to focus only on the Kingdom Hearts franchise. It's more than obvious that
two big games at the same time is too much. Final Fantasy 15 and Kingdom Hearts 3 are the proof of that. And considering the time is taking to reveal new information about Final Fantasy 7 remake, Square is about to release a third "half-assed" game.[/INDENT]





[INDENT]What's the second? Cause it sure as hell isn't Kingdom Hearts III. Was the ending rushed in cutscenes yes but that was very much a complete game. Disney Worlds were massive and for the most part stellar. The gameplay was solid.

I think if the difficulty would have been better people would have found the game and the ending a lot more rewarding.

Don't try to say just cause there were some issues with the story that KH3 was another FF 15. FF 15 had issues everywhere.
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SerDuncan

March 2, 2019 @ 08:38 amOffline

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mriku90
That is how he's always been. Your best bet for the text KH title will be in 3 years I imagine. Someone was suggesting that there's gonna be one side title before KH4 was that post accurate?



[INDENT]What's the second? Cause it sure as hell isn't Kingdom Hearts III. Was the ending rushed in cutscenes yes but that was very much a complete game. Disney Worlds were massive and for the most part stellar. The gameplay was solid.

I think if the difficulty would have been better people would have found the game and the ending a lot more rewarding.

Don't try to say just cause there were some issues with the story that KH3 was another FF 15. FF 15 had issues everywhere.
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Whoa, hey. Chill out man. If they think KH3 was half-assed, that's their opinion. I for one, happen to agree. I think I enjoyed KH3 on the same level of FF15, and I'm way more of a KH fan than a 15 fan. Both had their share of issues. A rushed finale, sections of the game that felt lacking. Gameplay elements that didn't really seem valuable. A story that left a lot of loose ends or wrapped up certain plotlines far too quickly and easily.

KH3 is a different experience for everybody. I found the gameplay to be lacking. Better than Dream Drop or BBS, but not nearly as good as KH2 or KH1. I found the Disney world storylines to be frustrating and in a majority of cases, pretty poor. I don't know if difficulty would have fixed the ending for me, cause my main story issues were with the pacing.

I just think that you can't simply try and say that KH3 isn't as bad as what happened with FF 15 as a fact. There's no objectivity there. I've seen some of your other posts about how KH3 has a B across the board on Metacritic. I have two responses to that: First, critical reception isn't everything. IGN gave Skyward Sword a 10/10, and that's just simply not the case. You have to make these decision on your own, not based on popular opinion. Secondly, FF has an 81 on Metacritic. KH3 has an 83. The games aren't as different as you seem to think they are. Things aren't clear cut.

mriku90

March 2, 2019 @ 03:54 pmOffline

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I just think that you can't simply try and say that KH3 isn't as bad as what happened with FF 15 as a fact. There's no objectivity there. I've seen some of your other posts about how KH3 has a B across the board on Metacritic. I have two responses to that: First, critical reception isn't everything. IGN gave Skyward Sword a 10/10, and that's just simply not the case. You have to make these decision on your own, not based on popular opinion. Secondly, FF has an 81 on Metacritic. KH3 has an 83. The games aren't as different as you seem to think they are. Things aren't clear cut.




KH3 ending sequence was roughly around 6-7 hours. The FF 15 ending sequence was maybe 2 hrs if you're lucky. There were chapters in that game that were probably 5 minutes. Ridiculous to even suggest KH3 which was a complete experience and around 38 hrs of gameplay compare that to running around an empty world fighting the same mediocre enemies/guards and then all of a sudden the plot picks up only for it to just be done with in 2 hrs with chapters that are 5 minutes. KH3 is not rushed. Just cause it did not meet up to your very high standards doesn't mean it was another FF XV.

As far as gameplay it was the best it's ever been in the series. The Keyblade transformations were innovative and fun. The only unnecessary thing were the attraction flows as they were way to OP so I never cared to use them. Using an attraction flow is not an acquirement for the majority of the game, you choose to press the button to activate one. The game doesn't do it for you. I've also never cared to use summons, but it's like that for every KH game.

And SS is a fantastic Zelda game, so our opinions clearly differ everywhere. I definitely do not agree with you about the Disney Worlds. I think they were the best they've ever been in the series. Gorgeous, massive, fully explorable Disney movies.

The only minor gripes I have with the game are some story decisions here or there, 100 Acre Garden, lack of FF characters but I can forgive that as well seeing as they've never been a massive part of the series. Always have been side characters. Not having RG was disappointing but I'm not gonna criticize the game for not having that world playable.

Aurora Lark

March 2, 2019 @ 06:45 pmOffline

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I think that the secret ending was just confusing for me. It was very cool looking especially though! I think maybe some of that could be explained in a DLC? I think the DLC should add more playable characters Kairi and Lea especially since we never played as them before

Sakuraba Neku

March 2, 2019 @ 07:23 pmOffline

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mriku90


[INDENT]What's the second? Cause it sure as hell isn't Kingdom Hearts III. Was the ending rushed in cutscenes yes but that was very much a complete game. Disney Worlds were massive and for the most part stellar. The gameplay was solid.
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It's definitely Kingdom Hearts 3.

You can enjoy a game, even if you think it was "half-assed". I enjoyed FF15 and I enjoyed KH3.
That doesn't mean I don't think those games couldn't have been much more.

And as much as I like Nomura, with FF Versus 13/FF 15, KH3 and FF 7 Remake, I'm cleary seeing a pattern here...

Worlds being massive don't mean quality. Arendelle is "massive" and still a terrible world.

The gameplay is solid but needs tweaks. Being able to use attraction flow against Anti-Aqua or against the heartless/nobodies/unversed army at Keyblade Graveyard is ridiculous. For the sake of tension, we shouldn't be able to do it in those situations. Just like there aren't ingredients and lucky emblems at Keyblade Graveyard.

mriku90

March 2, 2019 @ 08:15 pmOffline

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Sakuraba Neku

The gameplay is solid but needs tweaks. Being able to use attraction flow against Anti-Aqua or against the heartless/nobodies/unversed army at Keyblade Graveyard is ridiculous. For the sake of tension, we shouldn't be able to do it in those situations. Just like there aren't ingredients and lucky emblems at Keyblade Graveyard.


It's your choice to do it though. I for one never used attraction flows except for the two times it was required. I saw that it would make the game too easy so I always avoided using them.

So people want to say it's dumb that Splash Run can kill an Organization Member, well you chose to use it. The game doesn't automatically activate your attraction flow for you.




Worlds being massive don't mean quality. Arendelle is "massive" and still a terrible world.




Toy Story, Tangled, BH6, POTC, and Monsters Inc were massive and very enjoyable worlds. The only Disney World that was truly terrible was 100 Acre Garden. What saved Arendelle for me was Marshmallow party member.

Sakuraba Neku

March 2, 2019 @ 09:17 pmOffline

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mriku90
It's your choice to do it though. I for one never used attraction flows except for the two times it was required. I saw that it would make the game too easy so I always avoided using them.

So people want to say it's dumb that Splash Run can kill an Organization Member, well you chose to use it. The game doesn't automatically activate your attraction flow for you.


Doesn't mean they have done the right thing in having that option available in those situations, in the first place. We can ignore the problem, but it's still there.

Another example is the cutscenes length. I hear some people complaining about how long they are and how it feels like they are watching a movie, most of the time. Unfortunately, I can't disagree with them. We can skip them if we want, but we still have a problem here if some players are feeling like this.




Toy Story, Tangled, BH6, POTC, and Monsters Inc were massive and very enjoyable worlds. The only Disney World that was truly terrible was 100 Acre Garden. What saved Arendelle for me was Marshmallow party member.



Oh yeah, Marshmallow. The only party member in the game with a questionable personality.
Arendelle is really something else.

Veevee

March 3, 2019 @ 11:53 pmOffline

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Man, this interview sucks. It really doesn't help to repeat that people SHOULD get it because they obviously don't. It's like assuming people don't get your book because it's too sophisticated for them to understand when in reality, you should just have been more clear. [spoiler] The whole "Kairi is being shattered and suddenly she's there (maybe, maybe it's just wishful imagination) and in the next instant, we see Sora waking up in some strange place, obviously not feeling too good. Yes, I can totally connect what happened between these three events, no questions asked.[/spoiler]

drew0512

March 4, 2019 @ 12:39 amOffline

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Sakuraba Neku
Doesn't mean they have done the right thing in having that option available in those situations, in the first place. We can ignore the problem, but it's still there.



Doesn't mean they have done the wrong thing, either. It's a problem only if you want it to be a problem. Killing an Org member with an attraction is as ridiculous as doing it with Ariel's fountains or Ralph's blocks, so what do we do? Only let players use basic attacks for the sake of "seriousness"? There are players out there that enjoy those things and/or don't care about atmosphere and whatever and just want to have fun. The solution is always to give a choice, not to preclude possibilities. If you want to use those things, you can; if you don't want to, you can. If anything, they should give us the option to disable any command we want, so that they don't even cluster on the screen.

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