Kingdom Hearts 20th Anniversary Event held in Tokyo on April 10th
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- Published on January 18, 2022 @ 06:09 am
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The Kingdom Hearts 20th anniversary event will be held in Tokyo on April 10th, 2022! Fans can look forward to a mini concert, talk show with the development team and special guests, fan-powered Q&A, an exhibition, and more. A video of the event will be made available at a later date.
More updates coming soon.
An official website has also been launched, highlighting the 20th anniversary announcements thus far.
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I really hope they'll be providing a livestream, even if it won't be translated. Their post makes it sound like we're getting a VOD.
I'm kind of surprised it sounds like they're not live-streaming it.
But oh well. Let this be something special for those who get to go for a few days, before they release the videos.
I'm sure we can just get impressions from those who do get to go from here like we have in the past. And that can tide us over until we get to see everything for ourselves:)
April is still so far away:cry:
As long as they upload the new game trailers instantly, I don’t care when they share the whole event
Yes! I’m super excited!
This not being livestreamed worries me a bit.
Hoping for the disney + series announcement and new game for end of 2022/beginning of 2023 please.
We're in uncharted territory for Kingdom Hearts right now, I haven't felt this sort of mystery since waiting for Kingdom Hearts III.
I was wondering why it be April 10th.
I was expecting March, but still looking forward to it. Not sure what to make of the "video of the event will be nade available later" bit, sounds like it's either poorly worded or they are actually doing a closed door event in this day and age.
And now the anticipation begins! I too can't help but find it odd that this is not being livestreamed, though as long as they give us the video in a reasonable time, it doesn't matter too much. As long as they give us the trailers immediately, like someone said above, then I don't mind.
I can’t help but feel a little skeptical about how they’re handling this, though I guess they’ve done reveals at exclusive events before like the ReMind trailer at World of Tres IIRC? One would hope we at least get any reveals dropped simultaneously
Really hate that they aren’t live-streaming this, but whatever. This has always been the modus operandi for Nomura’s games lol
The vacation is over, KH is back! Time to put my Kingdom Hearts cap back on and come up with new nitpicks and headcanons going into the anniversary. Real talk though, I'm excited. I've missed how active the KH community use to be so it's time to put on our seatbelts and buckle up for whatever insanity Nomura throws at us. I'm ready for it!
I hope it's livestreamed. I would certainly watch it. I hope we get some great announcements at the event. I'm marking my calendar for it. Maybe...some Melody of Memory dlc? I will never stop asking for it unless they like announce MoM 2.
Really hate that they aren’t live-streaming this, but whatever. This has always been the modus operandi for Nomura’s games lol
They did the same with the first KH3 footage. Back then, I really hated how they hadn’t showed ANYTHING publicly
I remember a user who drew the Shooting Star keyblade which was literally the only thing we saw from KH3
They did the same with the first KH3 footage. Back then, I really hated how they hadn’t showed ANYTHING publicly
I remember a user who drew the Shooting Star keyblade which was literally the only thing we saw about KH3
Remember Cable Town?
Remember Cable Town?
Omg yes! And the first descriptions were like “it looks like Land of Departure”. And if I remember correctly, there was also footage of Sora entering the room where Young Xehanort and Eraqus had played chess
You sons of bitches!
The more I think about it, the more annoyed I am about the exclusive event thing. It just seems like something out of 2010. I mean the KH team is going to do what the KH team always does, but still.
I really disliked all the waiting, with the dripple of information and massive misinformation back in the day. With how social media has evolved I can't help, but feel people will bounce on the gap between event and spread all kinds of crazy disinformation, leaving us to sort through it even once it's actual information is out there.
Remember Cable Town?
They did the same with the first KH3 footage. Back then, I really hated how they hadn’t showed ANYTHING publicly
I remember a user who drew the Shooting Star keyblade which was literally the only thing we saw from KH3
Haha yeah that was Zephyr who did the art. It sucked because it was barely even half a minute of footage. SE really sucks about this stuff.
I was hoping for a dark road announcement but lol
I hope they announce the next major game here and we don't have to wait until later.
If there's no live stream, it's just another example of Square refusing to keep up with times.
I'm surprised it isn't in March when KH1 came out but whatever. Looking forward to hopefully a game announcement and brief trailer. And maybe the rumored Disney+ series :)
I'm surprised it isn't in March
It’s not too off the mark, since the anniversary is the 28th of March. In fact… it’s 13 days after the anniversary ?
Fine print on the official website confirms we're getting a memorial video of the event at a later date. A livestream isn't addressed but I guess we shouldn't get our hopes up, given their track record.
It's kinda disappointing that the 20th anniversary announcements so far have been Japan-centric: the ambassador hotel collaboration, Tokyo Disneyland selling official KH merchandise, SE themselves releasing a ton of new products, and now this event.
Fine print on the official website confirms we're getting a memorial video of the event at a later date. A livestream isn't addressed but I guess we shouldn't get our hopes up, given their track record.
It's kinda disappointing that the 20th anniversary announcements so far have been Japan-centric: the ambassador hotel collaboration, Tokyo Disneyland selling official KH merchandise, SE themselves releasing a ton of new products, and now this event.
Sadly that's always been the case. Japan is the focus even if most of the fan fare is more international then that. We've always been an afterthought when it comes to events and celebrations.
I'm surprised it isn't in March when KH1 came out but whatever. Looking forward to hopefully a game announcement and brief trailer. And maybe the rumored Disney+ series :)
I think omicron forced them to push it out. Easier to have something in April with the hope things get back under control versus something just two months away when current predictions aren’t pleasant.
Sadly that's always been the case. Japan is the focus even if most of the fan fare is more international then that. We've always been an afterthought when it comes to events and celebrations.
It’s so stupid when we make the bulk of the market share for the series, too. Why not do a livestream like one of the Letters?
How hard is it to use space in a Disney retail location to sell limited KH merch?
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You know I know I shouldn't be disappointed that this event is Japan centric, given SE's track record, but man would it kill them to livestream the event at least? I want to be able to enjoy the hype with everyone instead of waiting for english subbed game trailers.
I think omicron forced them to push it out. Easier to have something in April with the hope things get back under control versus something just two months away when current predictions aren’t pleasant.
Uh logic?? No! It’s April 10 because of the 104 building, thirteen days after the anniversary, and being held in the building that the Master of Masters was on. Nothing to do with a virus we should all be triple vaccinated for (do it)
I really hope they'll be providing a livestream, even if it won't be translated. Their post makes it sound like we're getting a VOD.
Of course they won't livestream it. Hyping up an event only to make it available to a small audience is practically the MO for KH.
Bonus points if the video is on a week+ delay.
Ahhhh wonderful, I love to see Kingdom Hearts returning to its roots.
Nothing screams KH more than a closed theatre event!
EDIT: I know the 2.5 launch event is the poster child example of this (us plebs *still* haven't seen that kino cg trailer) but may I posit a different event, the D23 2015 closed theatre? 1½ years of hyping up and all we got out of it was footage we'd already seen before. There was some tremendous salt that day
EDIT EDIT: not to mention how some people could get so sanctimonious over the whole thing, cos sure, you don't deserve to see the trailers if you can't cough up the cash for it. [S]At least these days they get leaked[/S]
I mean, where in America do yall think they should hold a live showing of an event?
The thing about Tokyo is that everyone in Tokyo is already, like, right there. There are basically constant events for all JP art things there; I figure they're not that expensive to book even.
Dragon Quest got an international livestream and Square has to be dragged by their feet to release any of those games globally.
No livestream = Essentially means anything new will be behind closed-door.
Basically: Lol, Nomura.
I mean, where in America do yall think they should hold a live showing of an event?
The thing about Tokyo is that everyone in Tokyo is already, like, right there. There are basically constant events for all JP art things there; I figure they're not that expensive to book even.
I don’t understand? Nowhere. We mean they should be live-streaming the event they are hosting in Tokyo to fans worldwide like they do other things like Letters from the Producer which are live and translated live with any news in both English and Japanese.
I mean, where in America do yall think they should hold a live showing of an event?
The thing about Tokyo is that everyone in Tokyo is already, like, right there. There are basically constant events for all JP art things there; I figure they're not that expensive to book even.
The problem is not that it is happening in Tokyo. Is that the event only happens there and everyone else around the globe has no way to access what is happening before a video is edited together and released god knows when.
It should be livestreamed so everyone that loves KH can join together and celebrate it's birthday on the same day. I just hope that if a trailer is released there, at least they release it online, so we don't have to go off online impressions of what people saw at the event...
Yea these guys really need to start taking some pages out of Creative Business Unit III’s playbook. In general, greater transparency has a proven track record of serving as a successful marketing tactic while building trust and good will with fans. It’s surprising Kitase’s group still hasn’t put this together.
I mean, where in America do yall think they should hold a live showing of an event?
The thing about Tokyo is that everyone in Tokyo is already, like, right there. There are basically constant events for all JP art things there; I figure they're not that expensive to book even.
It's not like overseas fans are the only ones displeased about this? Japanese fans are as well. Those who can't get to Tokyo, aren't willing to risk being in closed quarters with lots of people during the pandemic, unable to get a ticket (which you know will be distributed via lotto)... they're also losing out.
Just seems kind of short-sighted to celebrate such a momentous occasion in such a limited way.
I guess I mean just the idea of "all the events have been Japan-centric", with a list of the live events and promotions and stuff. I just can't picture that kind of thing happening in the west at all, even for something as popular as KH.
I guess I mean just the idea of "all the events have been Japan-centric", with a list of the live events and promotions and stuff. I just can't picture that kind of thing happening in the west at all, even for something as popular as KH.
I mean, it has happened though. The 1.5 event. The 2.5 filming and the 2.5 launch events. The KH3 Premiere event. The D23 stuff. Disney Springs' pop up shop.
But when it really matters like with stuff like this, it is always Japan-centric and it usually means they will also tell Japanese fans to not spoil anything, so we'll spend days not knowing what happened like this is a Closed Special Theater.
But the problem here is that we are in the midst of a global pandemic + it's 2022 and SE can't do a livestream??? Can't have Disney stock up on KH stuff in western locations? It's easy things that could make all of this more accessible for their very global audience.
They might surprise us and actually do this things down the line, but atm the biggest issue is not making this event accessible to people beyond a VOD post-event who knows when. It just really sucks when it's the 20th anniversary for every fan, not just the 5 people who will be lucky to attend. The fans attending already get the advantage of being there physically to enjoy the festivities.
NOMURA!!!!!!!!! This is why I love him lol.
I'm so excited for the mini-concert. I'm really hoping for Simple & Clean, Sanctuary, Face My Fears (acoustic) and Don't Think Twice by Utada! Then they can also do a few piano arrangements of popular tracks from the game.
I don't see the problem with making it exclusive and not live-streamed. I mean, I wish it were so I could get all the info, but it's kind of nice to give those people in attendance an exclusive event. Also, I feel like Nomura doesn't like live-streamed stuff because it makes him feel on the spot and he has to be very careful with his words. Especially with it being a Q&A, he may be worried about being asked a question and his answer being run with by the media as confirmation of something etc. If it's released later, he can look over any info he revealed and choose to cut what he doesn't want to be officially released. At least that's my theory.
NOMURA!!!!!!!!! This is why I love him lol.
I'm so excited for the mini-concert. I'm really hoping for Simple & Clean, Sanctuary, Face My Fears (acoustic) and Don't Think Twice by Utada! Then they can also do a few piano arrangements of popular tracks from the game.
I don't see the problem with making it exclusive and not live-streamed. I mean, I wish it were so I could get all the info, but it's kind of nice to give those people in attendance an exclusive event. Also, I feel like Nomura doesn't like live-streamed stuff because it makes him feel on the spot and he has to be very careful with his words. Especially with it being a Q&A, he may be worried about being asked a question and his answer being run with by the media as confirmation of something etc. If it's released later, he can look over any info he revealed and choose to cut what he doesn't want to be officially released. At least that's my theory.
That is why typically events like these are scripted. Live Letters are 90% scripted, for example. They can still do Q&A’s but have it all vetted ahead of time. Have attendees submit questions prior to the event and they choose which ones to answer and have the general idea of the answers prepared in advance. In fact, I bet that is exactly what they will do.
Other live streamed events for other games have been the same when Nomura would appear as the voice of god in the background because he refuses to come on stage. They were scripted.
That is why typically events like these are scripted. Live Letters are 90% scripted, for example. They can still do Q&A’s but have it all vetted ahead of time. Have attendees submit questions prior to the event and they choose which ones to answer and have the general idea of the answers prepared in advance. In fact, I bet that is exactly what they will do.
Other live streamed events for other games have been the same when Nomura would appear as the voice of god in the background because he refuses to come on stage. They were scripted.
That doesn't mean people can't change the script live on the spot. If the Q&A is what I think it is - like someone walking up to a mic and asking a question, even if they gave their question beforehand they could ask Nomura something else. If it's just questions on cards that the host asks Nomura, then that's different, but still I don't see the problem not live-streaming it.
I always found it really cool how KH's marketing - despite what would be best for the brand - was always like this. If they were doing the event and not sharing video of it, then I would be furious, but they're giving us the video at a later date. The reason is probably to translate and hopefully enhance the audio/prepare HQ audio files of Utada's concert to release as an album.
That doesn't mean people can't change the script live on the spot.
Right but if this actually were an issue the team was concerned about, they could just as well pre-record the event. But this isn’t a pre-record, it’s an actual live event that’s being captured, only to be shared with a broader audience… later. For some reason.
The reason is probably to translate and hopefully enhance the audio/prepare HQ audio files of Utada's concert to release as an album.
I assure you neither of these are particularly difficult to do for a livestream (mixing/mastering a live album for release would be a separate issue entirely and would probably take months, minimum, before any release). But a global livestream just requires a modicum of logistical effort and investment for a live translator and basic AV setup. Heck, Square Enix themselves do this all the time with FFXIV streams. They have the staffing, the know-how, and the infrastructure. This is practically the industry baseline in a COVID world. This whole thing is genuinely just poor PR and makes no sense.
Right but if this actually were an issue the team was concerned about, they could just as well pre-record the event. But this isn’t a pre-record, it’s an actual live event that’s being captured, only to be shared with a broader audience… later. For some reason.
I assure you neither of these are particularly difficult to do for a livestream (mixing/mastering a live album for release would be a separate issue entirely and would probably take months, minimum, before any release). But a global livestream just requires a modicum of logistical effort and investment for a live translator and basic AV setup. Heck, Square Enix themselves do this all the time with FFXIV streams. They have the staffing, the know-how, and the infrastructure. This is practically the industry baseline in a COVID world. This whole thing is genuinely just poor PR and makes no sense.
OK, well then Square and Nomura just wants to do it this way. I'm sorry you and a lot of people are pissed about it, but I actually find it really nice and unique to have an exclusive event for the people in Japan for KH.
Do I wish I could go? Of course. But this is what seems to happen a lot of KH events - COVID or not. The fact is that all fans WILL be getting the event eventually. Would you rather they didn't even bother release it? If the event has release dates and news about future games, would it matter if it were revealed at the event and people were told to not share it for a few days until the video is released? It would be like the info wasn't even released anyway.
What if they're working on a trailer that may or may not be ready by the time of the event, and would rather release the event along with an actual trailer to the world? We should be happy that we got a date and details of the event. That's the sign that we're moving forward with KH news.
If the event has release dates and news about future games, would it matter if it were revealed at the event and people were told to not share it for a few days until the video is released? It would be like the info wasn't even released anyway.
If only… but past experience tells otherwise. We’re almost definitely going to be dealing with days (hopefully not longer but who knows) of Google-translated impressions posted on JP Reddit and Twitter, all kinds of bizarre hearsay and—if we get any big reveals here—spoilers for the reveals. Not saying I’m not excited, I’m saying… why do this to your fanbase? It’s just so unnecessary, and I think it’s reasonable to hold them to a higher standard.
I always found it really cool how KH's marketing - despite what would be best for the brand - was always like this. If they were doing the event and not sharing video of it, then I would be furious, but they're giving us the video at a later date. The reason is probably to translate and hopefully enhance the audio/prepare HQ audio files of Utada's concert to release as an album.
How did you come to the conclusion that Utada will be attending this thing at all?
If only… but past experience tells otherwise. We’re almost definitely going to be dealing with days (hopefully not longer but who knows) of Google-translated impressions posted on JP Reddit and Twitter, all kinds of bizarre hearsay and—if we get any big reveals here—spoilers for the reveals. Not saying I’m not excited, I’m saying… why do this to your fanbase? It’s just so unnecessary, and I think it’s reasonable to hold them to a higher standard.
You make it sound like they're attacking the fanbase. They're literally doing a special event for fans. Yes, we all wish we could be there in person, but we can't. If we all can wait for KH3 to be released, I'm sure we can wait the days/weeks for video of this event. Honestly, this makes the video release even more special because there will be more word of mouth about what was seen and heard. I think that builds a more natural hype than just "here's your trailer". It engages with the audience and makes us reach out to the ones who attended for details.
How did you come to the conclusion that Utada will be attending this thing at all?
They said that there will be "special guests" and a "mini-concert", so I don't think it's completely out there to guess/hope that Queen Utada will attend. It's not like KH is some random job she got hired for, she is a big part of KH's legacy. Also, Nomura did artwork for an Utada album years back... AND Utada was willing to contribute a brand new song (Face My Fears) to KH3 instead of just letting them remix Don't Think Twice.
They said that there will be "special guests" and a "mini-concert", so I don't think it's completely out there to guess/hope that Queen Utada will attend. It's not like KH is some random job she got hired for, she is a big part of KH's legacy. Also, Nomura did artwork for an Utada album years back... AND Utada was willing to contribute a brand new song (Face My Fears) to KH3 instead of just letting them remix Don't Think Twice.
The "special guests" mentioned are more than likely referring to VAs, as is usually the case, and they are only mentioned on the website in regards to the talk session with dev staff.
Hoping Utada will attend is one thing, but assuming that they not only will, but will be the focus of the mini concert that is also going to be recorded in full and even released as an album is another thing entirely. Taking that many leaps and bounds when their name has not even been mentioned in relation to this event is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
This reeks of old men in charge.
Yes, we all wish we could be there in person, but we can't.
No most of us couldn't care less about being there in person, we just don't want to be treated as an afterthought.
More often than not it feel like we international fans aren't wanted or valued and just tolorated to finanze the whole thing. The Japanese fans are obviously the favorite child in this dysfunctional family metaphor.
I mean has an international website for the anniversary even launched yet?
Personally I am just not a fan of exclusive events generally. But especially not for big anniverseries that were advertised internationally. Also it just seems stupid to have a local limited in person event, during a pandemic.
It be something else, if there was this local event and simultaniously something for fans that can't attend. So we can all celebrate together and feel valued.
OK, well then Square and Nomura just wants to do it this way. I'm sorry you and a lot of people are pissed about it, but I actually find it really nice and unique to have an exclusive event for the people in Japan for KH
Both lamenting the "trauma" of the series not being PlayStation exclusive anymore and defending this odd exercise in artificial scarcity after they released a teaser trailer in English and Japanese for this event months ago.
Peculiar and verging on gatekeeping tbh.
They need to let the spice flow. SE has got to be the most dated and sloth-like company in the video game industry.
I'm calling it. The real reason why they're not livestreaming it is because they're going to reveal Kingdom Hearts NFT's. They don't want us pausing and right clicking the stream.
You make it sound like they're attacking the fanbase. They're literally doing a special event for fans. Yes, we all wish we could be there in person, but we can't.
Are we not fans? Aren't we allowed to share in the joy in celebrating the history of the series and exploring the future of the series at the same time as everyone else? If this event was hypothetically happening in Sydney and I was going, it'd suck because my friends over in North America wouldn't be able to share in the joy of what I'm seeing at the same time.
I love screaming in real time with them when there's a trailer at E3 or TGS. I wish the same could happen for the 20th anniversary of the series we all love.
My hope is that if there are any trailers or similar reveals, they’ll be released right away. It just doesn’t make sense to hold that kind of stuff back if you have it ready, especially considering it would likely leak online anyways. Maybe only the live stuff like the Q&A, etc. will be saved for a later video. But they’ll probably disappoint me.
Considering how bad they are, I am glad they’re getting the Switch ports out of the way before the event so we can put them behind us and look forward to whatever is coming next. I hope they go ahead and release the Dark Road ending soon too. I would love for any upcoming releases they show to be entirely new content, not updates or re-releases of existing games.
(Originally posted this in the wrong thread.)
I'm calling it. The real reason why they're not livestreaming it is because they're going to reveal Kingdom Hearts NFT's. They don't want us pausing and right clicking the stream.
There's no way you'll take Kairi's non-fungible Ver.2 58/300 reverso heart!
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Just to remind some people of an example of an event that happened behind closed doors with a video edited afterwards.
The worst part is that we'll probably get something like this out of it, with small snippets of the concert, the Q&A and with audience reactions to the eventual trailer and all.
Just to remind some people of an example of an event that happened behind closed doors with a video edited afterwards.
The worst part is that we'll probably get something like this out of it, with small snippets of the concert, the Q&A and with audience reactions to the eventual trailer and all.
Having been there at that event, it was cool but I would have preferred everybody got to know what happened and saw the same stuff at the same time as everybody there. I hate that knowledge from that event and the in-production footage of KH3 is just lost to time in some archive and a few hundred people’s fading memories.
Personally, I'm not too bothered about the exclusivity. The Kingdom Hearts socials always end up posting the important content, anyway.
I'm just going to parrot what has already been said basically. I wanna celebrate the KH anniversary along with everyone else. With how much bigger Kingdom Hearts has gotten since the release of KH3 I'm a little disappointed we still have these limitations. Disappointed but not surprised as some habits just do not break with big companies. Square should recognize KH's growing global popularity. We invest our time and money into the series too. I literally bought a PS4 mainly for Kingdom Hearts 3.
I get the exclusiveness for those that go, but viewing a livestream isn't the same as actually being there, as those lucky ones will get the extras. It sucks we'll have to wait and hear dozens of rumors of what was shown before actually seeing what really happened.
I just don't get the intention. When Marvel previews stuff exclusively for audiences at specific conventions, it's usually a mix of deals with the organisers, a gauge of public reception before exposing it to everyone else, a hype-building exercise. But even then, it's not the norm and there are clear and obvious reasons for it regardless of how frustrating it be or whether we agree with them or not.
With this KH event, it's none of that. They're hosting it themselves. They're ostensibly celebrating the past and the fans that got them there. There's no external stakeholder expecting exclusives to sell tickets to an expo. In fact, are SE even selling tickets at all? And if there's nothing secret to be revealed, then why the exclusivity. And if there is something to be revealed, then what are they trying to achieve with that exclusivity?
Marvel screened an exclusive preview of Eternals what seemed like years ago but it was unfisihed footage and it made sense in the context of the event. They've done it other times, too. But they're Marvel. They could screen a trailer for one single person and it would spread like wildfire across the Internet, sustaining more debate and engagement than the actual trailer probably would.
Kingdom Hearts isn't there yet. The fan pages and people like us who dwell in forums, twitter, and KH's reddit sub, are already a captive audience and who'd wish to be at that event/stream it anyway. Who else would care at this point?
Nobody else cared about KH3 until the marketing kicked in leading up to release (the trailers didn't make an impact and lots of people I know didn't get the hype for this "dumb looking kids game" only to be sucked in upon release). And nobody will care about KH4 until the marketing kicks in for that.
I just wished I knew what their point was in this exclusionary strategy. Then I'd be OK with disagreeing with it.
Just to remind some people of an example of an event that happened behind closed doors with a video edited afterwards.
The worst part is that we'll probably get something like this out of it, with small snippets of the concert, the Q&A and with audience reactions to the eventual trailer and all.
YEA IF WE GET THIS I WOULD FLY TO JAPAN AS I AM CRYING AND MAKE THEM RELEASE THE VIDEOS IN FULL AND EARLY
The real puzzling thing is why, 2 years into a global pandemic, when travel and large gatherings are ill-advised (and in some places, prohibited), they would not just opt for a digital event.
YEA IF WE GET THIS I WOULD FLY TO JAPAN AS I AM CRYING AND MAKE THEM RELEASE THE VIDEOS IN FULL AND EARLY
The country's in lockdown lol, no foreigners allowed in.
The problem with exclusivity is that it'll be hard to discern what is real and what is not.
"Like is any of this for real or not?"
There would be too much misinformation on social media.
"I was at the event and they announced 358/2 Days HD"
"They announced KH NFTs"
"They showed a KH1 Remake Trailer"
They'd announce everything eventually but it would be frustrating if we had to wait a month for everything to get announced on Twitter & Youtube.
I'm hoping the trailers are uploaded onto Youtube after the event.
I'm definitely reading 4 pages of discussion on an event announcement, so I'm just going to comment on the actual news: they're most definitely not going to please us with whatever is being announced, but I hope we get actual content to get the community going until the next game comes out.
I’ll stop complaining after this but will also just note that the KH team has really failed to inspire confidence with the way they’ve handled similar situations over this past year with UX/DR. They’ve progressively eroded trust, the most egregious example being the UX finale debacle. [S]Dark Road limbo/waiting room is still open.[/S] So when we see “at a later date” for such a major/hyped up event, a collective groan (especially from the international fanbase) is to be expected. This isn’t happening in a vacuum, shit’s cumulative.
Anyway w/e, I hope we get something good ?
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"No actually, you can not."
Me: Shit.
Japan remains the favored child of the fandom, that much has always been clear. I'm not upset about the Q+A being an exclusive event, what bothers me is the prospect of game footage and or trailers being shown behind closed doors when there really is no reason to with the entire community waiting for the next game/project.
I'm calling it. The real reason why they're not livestreaming it is because they're going to reveal Kingdom Hearts NFT's. They don't want us pausing and right clicking the stream.
Don’t you dare manifest such things into this world.
Don’t you dare manifest such things into this world.
I think it has a 50% chance of happening
I mean Disney made a WALL-E NFT, which is ironic.
Square Enix seems to be interested in NFTs, Disney does too - it is looking possible.
Imagine NFTs were around when KHUX was in full swing.
People were already remortgaging their houses for some very-much-fungible tokens just to get past the Wreck-It-Ralph level.
That game with added NFTs would be a matter for Nato, the WHO and the UN Security Council.
Personally, I'm not too bothered about the exclusivity. The Kingdom Hearts socials always end up posting the important content, anyway.
I heavily disagree, like its ridiculous to me that the vast majority of us still haven't seen the Cable town cg trailer. If it was good enough to show at the launch event it was good enough to share with all of us. Forever mad lol.
And by the way let's just recap over every closed theatre that happened between 2013 - 2019, just off the top of my head:
2.5 launch event
D23 2015 (an absolutely awful one BTW because it was teased for so long)
D23 2017/2018 (iirc)
And the various concerts, I think the worst one being the "First Breath" scene.
Like, that is literally the type of stuff they can film and subtitle, the audience there is paying for the privilege of the concert, stuff like voice actor scenes can be made available to all of us, so no, if anything, we rarely get things of actual importance shown on the socials.
They release the game trailers because if they didn't that would be terrible marketing, it's for a purpose. All the other cool stuff? Fat chance of ever seeing them unless you were lucky enough to be there.
*Sure* we can rely on fan translations and descriptions, and I'm so grateful to goldpanner for that, and Zephyr for making those 2.5 event impressions. But really, fan site shouldn't be doing the brunt of this, and do so because they're so passionate, otherwise all of this stuff would be lost to the sands of time
The "special guests" mentioned are more than likely referring to VAs, as is usually the case, and they are only mentioned on the website in regards to the talk session with dev staff.
Hoping Utada will attend is one thing, but assuming that they not only will, but will be the focus of the mini concert that is also going to be recorded in full and even released as an album is another thing entirely. Taking that many leaps and bounds when their name has not even been mentioned in relation to this event is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Well I'm hoping for all of that. I don't get disappointed easily, so I wouldn't really care if Utada wasn't there. I'm just being optimistic that she will be there - and if she is - above all else, I'm hoping for a live acoustic Face My Fears performance.
No most of us couldn't care less about being there in person, we just don't want to be treated as an afterthought.
More often than not it feel like we international fans aren't wanted or valued and just tolorated to finanze the whole thing. The Japanese fans are obviously the favorite child in this dysfunctional family metaphor.
I mean has an international website for the anniversary even launched yet?
Personally I am just not a fan of exclusive events generally. But especially not for big anniverseries that were advertised internationally. Also it just seems stupid to have a local limited in person event, during a pandemic.
It be something else, if there was this local event and simultaniously something for fans that can't attend. So we can all celebrate together and feel valued.
That's kind of a pretentious statement to make. An exhibit, a live Q&A with NOMURA, a live mini concert etc. and you think actual KH fans couldn't care less?
How are you being treated as an afterthought? We're getting video of the event. If you're taking it that far to feel unwanted or less valued just because you don't get to see the exclusive event the moment it happens, I think that's a separate issue.
Instead of jumping on the offensive, maybe wait to see if North America will get an exclusive event as well. KH1 got released in North America in September 2002, so maybe we get one in October? They just announced this event 3 months before it's going to happen, maybe we get more news later?
I get wanting to "celebrate together", but I seriously doubt KH fans in North America will even be awake or available if they were to livestream from Japan. So ultimately, the "celebrate together" thing really is just coded language for "I want to see it ASAP." Don't make it seem like it's an emotional thing because really people just want to get their hands on what everyone else is seeing - which is why there's still frustration to this day about not seeing "Cable Town".
Both lamenting the "trauma" of the series not being PlayStation exclusive anymore and defending this odd exercise in artificial scarcity after they released a teaser trailer in English and Japanese for this event months ago.
Peculiar and verging on gatekeeping tbh.
They need to let the spice flow. SE has got to be the most dated and sloth-like company in the video game industry.
Who said that the trailer was for this event only? There could be a North American one scheduled for September/October.
I'm not defending this event being exclusive. I jus think people are over-reacting. If people claim that they're so offended and feel personally attacked just because it's not being livestreamed and they have to wait to get video of the event... that's really not normal in my mind. I have no idea why they chose to do this particular event this way nor do I care, I'm just glad the event is happening and there's KH news.
I shouldn't be ganged up on just because I'm OK with this anniversary event happening the way it is. All I did was throw out ideas on why I thought they were doing it this way, saying I didn't have a problem with it, and that I didn't get people's frustrations.
Maybe it's because I'm not in the gaming community except for KH, but I cannot believe that people are so enraged and feel attacked because a company didn't deliver a trailer or information on time - or in this case, didn't livestream an exclusive event for in-person fans, and instead choose to release a video of it shortly after the event.
Are we not fans? Aren't we allowed to share in the joy in celebrating the history of the series and exploring the future of the series at the same time as everyone else? If this event was hypothetically happening in Sydney and I was going, it'd suck because my friends over in North America wouldn't be able to share in the joy of what I'm seeing at the same time.
I love screaming in real time with them when there's a trailer at E3 or TGS. I wish the same could happen for the 20th anniversary of the series we all love.
The same way I was accused and admonished for getting my hopes way too high for Utada to appear, I would say this - who even said there was going to be a trailer at this event to scream for?
Everyone who is complaining about how the event should have been livestreamed and we want to see everything NOW - that whole attitude is under the presumption that we get something new at this event. What if it's exactly what's advertised and then a verbal announcement from Nomura that we'll get a trailer at a later date this year. I know what people would scream at in real time if THAT were livestreamed.
All I'm trying to say is we as fans should be happy the event is actually happening and has a solid date. That's the first step to KHIV. People shouldn't go crazy demanding stuff that wasn't even promised. And I have a feeling that a trailer will NOT be shown at the event, but be released with the video of the event at a later date - and if that happens I will LOL so hard because everyone was so pissed at getting the video of the event and not a livestream.
I shouldn't be ganged up on just because I'm OK with this anniversary event happening the way it is. All I did was throw out ideas on why I thought they were doing it this way, saying I didn't have a problem with it, and that I didn't get people's frustrations.
I should have checked how many other similar replies you got before posting my own. Sorry it feels like you were ganged up on and it does suck to be on the receiving end of that for what is a fairly innocuous viewpoint.
I do generally agree with you on the entitlement thing. It's just that they promoted this event last year to reach as many people as possible within the fandom and in the general gaming community/press. The marketing was in English and got a flashy animated trailer to hype it up.
To go from that back to an exclusive and private event just seems counterintuitive and insular. Without that odd mixed-messaging, I wouldn't really have beef with this week's update.
Well I'm hoping for all of that. I don't get disappointed easily, so I wouldn't really care if Utada wasn't there. I'm just being optimistic that she will be there - and if she is - above all else, I'm hoping for a live acoustic Face My Fears performance.
That's kind of a pretentious statement to make. An exhibit, a live Q&A with NOMURA, a live mini concert etc. and you think actual KH fans couldn't care less?
How are you being treated as an afterthought? We're getting video of the event. If you're taking it that far to feel unwanted or less valued just because you don't get to see the exclusive event the moment it happens, I think that's a separate issue.
Instead of jumping on the offensive, maybe wait to see if North America will get an exclusive event as well. KH1 got released in North America in September 2002, so maybe we get one in October? They just announced this event 3 months before it's going to happen, maybe we get more news later?
I get wanting to "celebrate together", but I seriously doubt KH fans in North America will even be awake or available if they were to livestream from Japan. So ultimately, the "celebrate together" thing really is just coded language for "I want to see it ASAP." Don't make it seem like it's an emotional thing because really people just want to get their hands on what everyone else is seeing - which is why there's still frustration to this day about not seeing "Cable Town".
Who said that the trailer was for this event only? There could be a North American one scheduled for September/October.
I'm not defending this event being exclusive. I jus think people are over-reacting. If people claim that they're so offended and feel personally attacked just because it's not being livestreamed and they have to wait to get video of the event... that's really not normal in my mind. I have no idea why they chose to do this particular event this way nor do I care, I'm just glad the event is happening and there's KH news.
I shouldn't be ganged up on just because I'm OK with this anniversary event happening the way it is. All I did was throw out ideas on why I thought they were doing it this way, saying I didn't have a problem with it, and that I didn't get people's frustrations.
Maybe it's because I'm not in the gaming community except for KH, but I cannot believe that people are so enraged and feel attacked because a company didn't deliver a trailer or information on time - or in this case, didn't livestream an exclusive event for in-person fans, and instead choose to release a video of it shortly after the event.
The same way I was accused and admonished for getting my hopes way too high for Utada to appear, I would say this - who even said there was going to be a trailer at this event to scream for?
Everyone who is complaining about how the event should have been livestreamed and we want to see everything NOW - that whole attitude is under the presumption that we get something new at this event. What if it's exactly what's advertised and then a verbal announcement from Nomura that we'll get a trailer at a later date this year. I know what people would scream at in real time if THAT were livestreamed.
All I'm trying to say is we as fans should be happy the event is actually happening and has a solid date. That's the first step to KHIV. People shouldn't go crazy demanding stuff that wasn't even promised. And I have a feeling that a trailer will NOT be shown at the event, but be released with the video of the event at a later date - and if that happens I will LOL so hard because everyone was so pissed at getting the video of the event and not a livestream.
It's cool you're fine with it. But why is it hard to understand other people might not? Not necessary of you to make it up to be like we're all a bunch of entitled brats over-reacting and that "oh you don't really care about the celebration, you just want EVERYTHING NOW!".
I'm talking for myself here, but the video I posted on the other page of the 2.5 event is not a good substitute to actually being able to watch it in it's entirety, final KH3 trailer or not. And I'm not being entitled or whatever you're saying, I'm simply expressing my discontentment as a fan that I don't get to be able to watch it all, because I'd really like to. Like I'm not angry at SE nor am I losing sleep over this, just not happy with it.
You're acting like a victim right now and I don't get why, saying you came here and were ganged up on, but you came here with all this hypotheticals and people simply pointed out to you that they don't hold up to scrutiny, but you continued to double down on them. Also, no one destroyed your Utada dreams. Sign only comented on that when you used the reasoning of "the video is only shown at a later date because they need to enhance Utada's concert audio files to release as an album" that is overly specific and relies exclusively on a hypothetical appearance of Utada and of them creating an album of the concert.
Even in this post: "What if there's a North American event in september?" well what if there isn't? And if there is, should I hope for a Europe, more specifically Portugal, event that I can attend? A North American event would pose the same worries and issues that I have with this one. And if I don't voice them what will change?
The problem here is simple. Even if there isn't a trailer or announcement, this continues a trend that fans/I had hoped was over. You even said it yourself on a later post: "But this is what seems to happen a lot of KH events - COVID or not.", and just because you find it unique, doesn't mean other people feel the same way about it as you.
That's kind of a pretentious statement to make. An exhibit, a live Q&A with NOMURA, a live mini concert etc. and you think actual KH fans couldn't care less?
How are you being treated as an afterthought? We're getting video of the event. If you're taking it that far to feel unwanted or less valued just because you don't get to see the exclusive event the moment it happens, I think that's a separate issue.
Instead of jumping on the offensive, maybe wait to see if North America will get an exclusive event as well. KH1 got released in North America in September 2002, so maybe we get one in October? They just announced this event 3 months before it's going to happen, maybe we get more news later?
I get wanting to "celebrate together", but I seriously doubt KH fans in North America will even be awake or available if they were to livestream from Japan. So ultimately, the "celebrate together" thing really is just coded language for "I want to see it ASAP." Don't make it seem like it's an emotional thing because really people just want to get their hands on what everyone else is seeing - which is why there's still frustration to this day about not seeing "Cable Town".
To be clear I was using hyperbole. I think most would love to attend an exhibition and concert around KH. But my point is most aren't upset about not being there in-person, we're upset about being excluded, when it would be easy to include everyone.
It's kind of strange to advertise a big anniversary event only to celebrate with a select random few first and then eventually share it with the rest at an undisclosed time later.
Also I'd say it's more pretentious to claim everyone's acting entitled and their main complaint is not being able to attend in-person, when there's multiple pages of people voicing they're mainly frustrated by the lack of livestream and vagueness of when it'll be shared, but what do I know?
Regarding the rest I think Katsagu addressed it better than I can.
mainly frustrated by the lack of livestream and vagueness of when it'll be shared
Basically this, and it’s not an uncommon frustration.
[USER=38586]@Face My Fears[/USER] I’m sorry you felt ganged up on, certainly wasn’t my intention. I was simply trying to explain the reasoning behind the frustration I feel and which many others seem to share. No one here is throwing a tantrum or is particularly enraged, far as I can tell. Ultimately it’s not a huge deal but I think what it boils down to is that this is emblematic of a chronic issue which fans have expressed discontent about for years, and it feels shitty that the KH team have essentially ignored the fanbase’s voice on this issue for so long. If the devs didn’t get the memo after Cable Town, they’re clearly not even listening. (But then again who knows, I can’t claim to be speaking for the majority of the fanbase).
I’ve been referring to FFXIV as a case study for positive and successful engagement with fans—the development team is super transparent with the fanbase, communicates regularly and honestly, and genuinely seems interested in listening to and incorporating community feedback. (As a small example, back when they revealed the job logo for Sage, a subset of fans brought awareness to the fact that the image could be triggering for people with trypophobia. So they changed it!) This type of engagement breeds a very refreshing culture and transparent dynamic between developers and consumers which, aside from just being an ethic to strive for (in my opinion), generally also results in a better and more well-received product. Compare with, for example, the Cyberpunk 2077 disaster, in which the entire development cycle happened in some kind of hyperbolic chamber (as far as fans were concerned), and really the only mode of engagement was a bread and circus of impossible promises and outlandish advertisements. And if you don’t know what happened upon release, just Google it.
Personally I work in urban design and, without fail, projects are only successful and well-received if engagement with the affected community has been transparent, consistent, and thoughtful. I’ve hosted closed-door or otherwise difficult-to-access events, and people always resent it. People feel excluded from a process whose outcome affects them.
I know it probably seems silly to talk about something as serious and important as socio-political community engagement in the context of the commercial entertainment industry, but I genuinely think some similar principles (should) apply. It’s a pity this is all ultimately driven by profit, but game developers often have a genuine artistic vision which I think is only strengthened by transparency, by keeping their fingers on the pulse of the (sub-)cultures they’re working within. Something in active dialogue with its culture will always be stronger for it.
Anyway, it’s not like we’re asking for regular behind-the-scenes dev updates or anything particularly unusual. I’m not saying devs should cater to every fan wish, that would be insane (“entitlement”). We literally just want to feel involved, engaged, like we’re all in on it together. We’re invested in this series! And many other game development teams are already doing a much better job of this, to varying degrees. Again, it’s kind of a baseline ask. The point isn’t to moan and fling expletives at SE, it’s to (hopefully) make them aware that they could be doing something better, and that it would make their fans happier. If we can hold them to a higher standard, why shouldn’t we?
Look I'm sorry for riling everybody up, it's just that it did seem over-the-top to me that people were so pissed off that they couldn't get a livestream of the event when it was promised to come at a later date. To me that's fine because I know we're getting it. I understand that other people want to experience it in real time and I was wrong to imply that everyone had an entitled attitude to wanting it now. To back everything up, my whole confusion and base of original comments stemmed from me not understanding people being upset over no livestream and the feeling of being left out.
Whether I felt left out or not - that doesn't mean I should ignore how other people feel, so I was wrong on that front. Also, as I said before I'm not an avid gamer besides KH, so I really don't follow how other games get marketed or what strategies people use. All I really am aware of are trailers being dropped and E3 (and whatever events I read on here will feature KH stuff). Maybe Square Enix is doing crap with the promotion of KH and this should have been livestreamed, I don't know. I feel like there must be some reason it's not - one of them I mentioned before, that is maybe there is no trailer for a new game. Would people still want the livestream if it was just Nomura talking and answering questions? Would people come back disappointed if there was no trailer?
Either way, people can feel how they want and I do agree that if they could have - they should have just done the livestream because why not. It doesn't affect me if they did it or not, but it was advertised as a celebration for all fans, so it is disappointing for the fans that would even be aware of this event (as casual fans probably don't care) to not have immediate access.
So I'm sorry for what I said. I wish other people could be as content with the situation as I am. I think I'm just used to getting nothing or very little or vague details from the KH marketing team. Whether that's good or bad, I don't know. I will say that I hope they don't go crazy with trailers and spoilers because the last KH3 trailer (I believe the Final Battle one) was horrific if you didn't want to get the game spoiled (I'm glad I asked the forum if it had spoilers before I watched it).
Anyway, I'm hoping that maybe they do a segment during the talk show where they ask Nomura a series of questions about KH mysteries (like where Riku got Kairi's keyblade). I think it'd actually be kind of funny to look back on the series and actually pick it apart with Nomura.
Nobody else cared about KH3 until the marketing kicked in leading up to release (the trailers didn't make an impact and lots of people I know didn't get the hype for this "dumb looking kids game" only to be sucked in upon release). And nobody will care about KH4 until the marketing kicks in for that.
I wish marketing materials is a lot more honest that KH is more than "anime spiky haired kids fights Disney villain to save his damsel" , that KH is an acid trip plot with its fair share of edginess and legitimately serious plot. I hardly see people complained about FGO's acid trip plot , or even about Twisted Wonderland. The chapter CM openly shows the very clear foreshadowings to the plot, why can't KH have that?
Japan remains the favored child of the fandom, that much has always been clear. I'm not upset about the Q+A being an exclusive event, what bothers me is the prospect of game footage and or trailers being shown behind closed doors when there really is no reason to with the entire community waiting for the next game/project.
Correction, Tokyo only of the entire fandom. Not everyone in Japan live on Honshu island, and even then not everyone from Honshu island live in Tokyo. Japanese people who are not in Tokyo also hated this exclusivity as said before in this thread. My country have the same problem, not everyone in Indonesia lives in Java island and even then not everyone lived in Jakarta. And I said this despite I live really close to the borders of Jakarta. Living in archipelago country that only held events at the main island, moreso only at the capital sucks.
I heavily disagree, like its ridiculous to me that the vast majority of us still haven't seen the Cable town cg trailer. If it was good enough to show at the launch event it was good enough to share with all of us. Forever mad lol.
And by the way let's just recap over every closed theatre that happened between 2013 - 2019, just off the top of my head:
2.5 launch event
D23 2015 (an absolutely awful one BTW because it was teased for so long)
D23 2017/2018 (iirc)
And the various concerts, I think the worst one being the "First Breath" scene.
Like, that is literally the type of stuff they can film and subtitle, the audience there is paying for the privilege of the concert, stuff like voice actor scenes can be made available to all of us, so no, if anything, we rarely get things of actual importance shown on the socials.
They release the game trailers because if they didn't that would be terrible marketing, it's for a purpose. All the other cool stuff? Fat chance of ever seeing them unless you were lucky enough to be there.
*Sure* we can rely on fan translations and descriptions, and I'm so grateful to goldpanner for that, and Zephyr for making those 2.5 event impressions. But really, fan site shouldn't be doing the brunt of this, and do so because they're so passionate, otherwise all of this stuff would be lost to the sands of time
When you put it like that... that is a genuine problem. I retract my previous statement.
When you put it like that... that is a genuine problem. I retract my previous statement.
I didn't set out to change yours or anyones mind BTW, you're entitled to your own opinion, I just felt like highlighting why not having live streams of events is kind of an issue
I didn't set out to change yours or anyones mind BTW, you're entitled to your own opinion, I just felt like highlighting why not having live streams of events is kind of an issue
Don't worry, I knew that. It's just the fact that this issue didn't really hit me until you explained it.
Any hope for Atlantica being shown as the final Disney world in Dark Road? You'd think after the upteen million 1.5+2.5 ports they'd be throughly reminded of that 1 Triton scene having happened.
Any hope for Atlantica being shown as the final Disney world in Dark Road? You'd think after the upteen million 1.5+2.5 ports they'd be throughly reminded of that 1 Triton scene having happened.
Give the fans Mer-Xehanort!
Oathkeeper has a blue paopu fruit instead of a yellow one and has different colors ?
Oathkeeper has a blue paopu fruit instead of a yellow one and has different colors ?
The Oathkeeper keychain is supposed to be a thalassa shell charm in the shape of a paopu fruit and one side has always been blue. Whoever made the Keyblade for the hotel room likely just referenced a model that showed the blue side and assumed both sides were blue. And they didn’t want pictures posted because it’s supposed to be a surprise for guests that stay there. Not anything to do with spoilers for upcoming games.
A closed event does not mean we cant see what happen that day, but is very suspicious.
Since the event is on 20th anniversary, they sure are going to release a Trailer the same day, for the eventual Oath Game.
I can't believe they can annunce a new KH in 2022 , not showing at the world . 2022, we are in 2022, and the pandemic is like speed up the process. Every event or almost is online now
BTW, I want to see Quadratum in the Trailer, and atleast 1 playable character for that game....
But probably we'll see another Gacha too.
The concert and the rest, SE can upload them later or when they want.
This somehow made it to IGN lmao ??♂️
https://www.ign.com/articles/fans-think-kingdom-hearts-hotel-room-important-series-plot
This somehow made it to IGN lmao ??♂️
https://www.ign.com/articles/fans-think-kingdom-hearts-hotel-room-important-series-plot
Slow news week? Like yeah, it was all over KH Twitter, but I wouldn't have thought it was news worthy.
The Oathkeeper keychain is supposed to be a thalassa shell charm in the shape of a paopu fruit and one side has always been blue. Whoever made the Keyblade for the hotel room likely just referenced a model that showed the blue side and assumed both sides were blue. And they didn’t want pictures posted because it’s supposed to be a surprise for guests that stay there. Not anything to do with spoilers for upcoming games.
What kind of "surprise" is that? God, this company is so odd.
What kind of "surprise" is that? God, this company is so odd.
I think it’s neat for what it is since Oblivion is used as the room key. You get the Oathkeeper to match. It’s not supposed to be some big thing as it has now been made out to be.
I think it’s neat for what it is since Oblivion is used as the room key. You get the Oathkeeper to match. It’s not supposed to be some big thing as it has now been made out to be.
Agreed. However the mandate to not post photos online is strange, if it's just a counterpart. Especially because you still were allowed to reveal what it is.
I think it’s neat for what it is since Oblivion is used as the room key. You get the Oathkeeper to match. It’s not supposed to be some big thing as it has now been made out to be.
It's been made into a big thing by a nonsensical request not to take pictures of an utterly mundane item hidden in a chest in a room that scores of people will be taking pictures of.
Otherwise it's not a big thing.
We must be experiencing a really slow news drought if people are thinking a slightly miscolored Oathkeeper keychain is gonna be important in the next game. It's just a cute little easter egg.
We must be experiencing a really slow news drought if people are thinking a slightly miscolored Oathkeeper keychain is gonna be important in the next game. It's just a cute little easter egg.
I mean, people theorized the calendar in the Chessboard room was when the release date was going to happen for KH3
This somehow made it to IGN lmao ??♂️
https://www.ign.com/articles/fans-think-kingdom-hearts-hotel-room-important-series-plot
This is the second time that individual's jumping to conclusions got reported as news (the first time, Japanese news sites actually had to do damage control). If it happens a third time, maaaaaaybe we should stop giving them attention lol
Agreed. However the mandate to not post photos online is strange, if it's just a counterpart. Especially because you still were allowed to reveal what it is.
There were photos from other guests floating around prior to Audrey's stay, but the impression from their posts made it seem like Oathkeeper was a rare room key given to guests instead of Oblivion. Nobody talked about how they got it, merely sharing that it exists. That it is being given to everyone and is even waiting in the treasure chest for them to find would have been a nice surprise for future guests, so I get it.
(the first time, Japanese news sites actually had to do damage control).
Oh man, what was this about?
We must be experiencing a really slow news drought if people are thinking a slightly miscolored Oathkeeper keychain is gonna be important in the next game. It's just a cute little easter egg.
and yet, there's an embargo against showing anybody a picture of said keychain until April. if the keychain wasn't a big deal, they would not have an embargo at all.
Oh man, what was this about?
The FF7R concert in Japan. Toriyama was attending and posted a message somewhere (maybe Twitter?) that he'd share a few words at the show. Audrey immediately assumed he was referring to a new announcement. She's a newer SE fan but quickly built up a reputation in recent years due to pumping out quick (but not always accurate) translations and relaying info from the JP side of the community, so people regard her as an authority and took her words as a confirmation. This was picked up on several news sites and started growing out of proportion.
Toriyama's message did not get much, if any, attention prior to this as most fans are familiar with this practice and knew it'd just be a simple "thanks for your support" or something along those lines. It was this assumption by a prominent figure in the community that led to such a huge misunderstanding.
Eventually Japanese fans got wind of this and got really confused, leading to some of their news sites posting articles to clarify that no such announcement was ever made. And as you can probably figure out, Toriyama's words at the concert were indeed not anything of note lol
I can't wait for the celebration with new cutscenes placed randomly that are highly integral to the KH story as a whole
and yet, there's an embargo against showing anybody a picture of said keychain until April. if the keychain wasn't a big deal, they would not have an embargo at all.
You're smarter than this
and yet, there's an embargo against showing anybody a picture of said keychain until April. if the keychain wasn't a big deal, they would not have an embargo at all.
It’s nothing, though. The key chain is just modeled after the concept art where the chain is blue on the back.
[strawgrasping]
Oathkeeper, a keyblade originally based on Kairi, with a "blue paopu fruit".
& Kairi is training under Aqua.... ?
OMG, KAIRI GETTING HER OWN GAME WHERE SHE GETS A NEW KEYBLADE!!!1!uno!!
[/strawgrasping]
I can't wait for the celebration with new cutscenes placed randomly that are highly integral to the KH story as a whole
I feel like what's likely to happen is that there'll be a short script voiced by a voice actor or two. Remember the Namine & Terra conversation?
I feel like what's likely to happen is that there'll be a short script voiced by a voice actor or two. Remember the Namine & Terra conversation?
If they really wanted to make the community explode they'd include Yozora's JP voice actor and make it closed door only.
There's a photo floating around of the oathkeeper keyblade. Pretty interesting, not sure what to make of it though.
If they really wanted to make the community explode they'd include Yozora's JP voice actor and make it closed door only.
Nomura would be a massive Chad if he did this lol
"The concert had lore" is something I see repeated a lot but supplemental drama CDs are a big thing in japan and they're almost never important. The terra and namine convo is exactly the kind of trivial thing that would appear on one of those. I don't think this will change. I'd respect it if it was an enormous stunt, though.
[strawgrasping]
Oathkeeper, a keyblade originally based on Kairi, with a "blue paopu fruit".
& Kairi is training under Aqua.... ?
OMG, KAIRI GETTING HER OWN GAME WHERE SHE GETS A NEW KEYBLADE!!!1!uno!!
[/strawgrasping]
I'd actually be down for Kairi getting a faintly blue Oathkeeper with a Aqua made Wayfinder as the keychain.
There's a photo floating around of the oathkeeper keyblade. Pretty interesting, not sure what to make of it though.
Nothing, because it is absolutely nothing. They looked at a piece of concept art and used the blue backside of the charm for the whole thing rather than the front pink/yellow side.
*kicks door down*
What's hilarious about all this is that when I saw a picture of the hotel Oathkeeper thanks to some japanese auction shit, the charm everyone made a big deal about....is legit just a solid blue object with no detail and a gold ball in the center.
That along with how the hotel event ends on the 27th of April rather than the 10th like what a bunch of people believe, is just makin' me think that this fanbase ignores basic logic for theory crafting like that time during the early days after KH3's release where there were theories about "the third heart" inside Sora when it was obviously Xion but instead these fuckin' guys went "WAHT EEF IT'S EFFEMMURR"
But with this hotel shit, it's gotten reported on by news outlets and is once again another hit to the series rep because people are so friggin' lost in the preconceptions that rose up in the post-KH2 landscape about how Nomura is a crazy guy who would d e f i n i t e l y make a stupid hotel room canon when in actuality I doubt he had much input in this cuz he's busy actually working on the next game.
Edit: And now I just saw the resetera thread where chaser tried explaining that there is no lore importance, and people didn't bother listenin'.
I feel bad for Chaser and Nomura.
The Oathkeeper keychain being blue is such an annoying story for me. It really shows how some fans/gaming news sources have become sort of toxic towards KH. A lot of people are commenting about how Nomura is using that hotel event to hide clues about something and how this is why the series is a mess because important things are scattered everywhere.
The blue keychain for Oathkeeper was seen in artwork for CoM, Days, and re:Coded. It's not hard to imagine that someone just assumed both sides were blue. It's not like Nomura oversaw every little detail that went into making a hotel room. They probably asked for an Oathkeeper design and they were provided the artwork that had the keychain blue.
On a side note: Reading this thread reminded me to reschedule new sessions with my therapist.
Edit: And now I just saw the resetera thread where chaser tried explaining that there is no lore importance, and people didn't bother listenin'.
I feel bad for Chaser and Nomura.
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What really annoyed me about this whole thing is how much KH and fans are treated as a joke on websites like that. So when something like this comes around, where there's actually nothing lore-wise going on, and people run with mocking the series and fans even more it just really grinds my gears.
I want more KH games but I also want good staff working on them.
An announcement I would love this franchise to have would be getting a new co-director, cutscene director and writer to help Nomura. I'm not convinced about Tai Yasue and Masaru Oka.
On a side note Mitsunori Takahashi (KH2 battle lead planner) is only credited to have worked in the prototype game design from FF7 Remake, so maybe he already returned in ReMind and here's here to stay?! I hope so.
What really annoyed me about this whole thing is how much KH and fans are treated as a joke on websites like that. So when something like this comes around, where there's actually nothing lore-wise going on, and people run with mocking the series and fans even more it just really grinds my gears.
Years ago i realized those bigger forums only work for me if I'm a lurker. I rather interact in sites like these dedicated to a franchise I love with other fans, than dealing with that crap.
KH being a giant laughing stock in the realm of gaming is nothing new. It's like trying to herd cats, nearly impossible and if you try, another hyperactive theorist cat escapes and starts to hype up what Nomura had for breakfast because Nomura.
What makes this worse is that apparently the Oathkeeper really isn't the secret item.
" Each room comes with two Keyblades (with their own special box). You’ll also get two special souvenir postcards to keep too. In each room is a treasure chest containing a secret item."
Meaning this whole BS is literally based on nothing but assumptions regarding a thing that isn't even the actual secret thing.
...man, we really are a joke.
It's so like this fandom to misconstrue so much as a raindrop to mean a tertiary character is about to suddenly become the star of the series after 20 years of nada. Disney just released the Rescue Rangers show on Blu-ray, surely the next KH game will be of Chip n Dale getting Keyblades and hunting for Gummis!!
I mean, people theorized the calendar in the Chessboard room was when the release date was going to happen for KH3
Yeahhhhhhh..... That totally wasn't me
Can’t speak to its accuracy, but from what I can gather this is a quote from Nomura-san (as a voice from the heavens, in classic fashion) at the FF7 25th Anniversary livestream event today:
Nomura drew this for FF7 25th Anniversary. Hopefully he draws something for KH too.
Why can't I marry Nomura's artwork?
Why can't I marry Nomura's artwork?
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A question the internet has asked for 25 years.
And here's what the KH Twitter account posted for FF7 25th anniversary:
Hopefully when KH's 20th comes around the favor is returned.
And here's what the KH Twitter account posted for FF7 25th anniversary:
Hopefully when KH's 20th comes around the favor is returned.
Especially since KH has done this twice now for FF7. Throwback to the 20th anniversary:
Nomura, I’m begging you. At least this time have FF7 characters in the next KH game if you are gonna have the staff make an anniversary throwback image.
And I swear to god SE better acknowledge KH’s anniversary. They always get the short end of the stick and I’m exhausted.
Nomura, I’m begging you. At least this time have FF7 characters in the next KH game if you are gonna have the staff make an anniversary throwback image.
Could you imagine if they resolved the Cloud, Zack, and Sephiroth plotline in Quadratum?
Could you imagine if they resolved the Cloud, Zack, and Sephiroth plotline in Quadratum?
I’d be so happy lol especially if it is their newer models and voices
Nomura, I’m begging you. At least this time have FF7 characters in the next KH game if you are gonna have the staff make an anniversary throwback image.
And I swear to god SE better acknowledge KH’s anniversary. They always get the short end of the stick and I’m exhausted.
I wanted to say this but didn't think people would appreciate yet another "FF CHARACTERS HAVE KH RIGHTS" post by me so I'll just viciously agree with you instead
And I swear to god SE better acknowledge KH’s anniversary. They always get the short end of the stick and I’m exhausted.
Wait, KH's anniversaries weren't acknowledged by SE?
Wait, KH's anniversaries weren't acknowledged by SE?
They are acknowledged but not in the same way KH gets used to celebrate other anniversaries for other games. You would never see a hype tweet from DQ’s account or the FF account with a callback to KH the way you see KH do.
KH is used to promote other games but other games don’t promote KH.
They are acknowledged but not in the same way KH gets used to celebrate other anniversaries for other games. You would never see a hype tweet from DQ’s account or the FF account with a callback to KH the way you see KH do.
KH is used to promote other games but other games don’t promote KH.
Man.
That friggin' sucks. Really makes you remember that despite its popularity, KH is just treated like it's....there.
It's the poster child for the red headed step kid by Disney and Square, although I guess Disney is making a little more effort these days
I would hope with KH3 getting as big of a push as it did, and shining a spotlight on the series that SE would start to treat it like a part of the big three franchises that it is alongside DQ and FF.
It's the poster child for the red headed step kid by Disney and Square, although I guess Disney is making a little more effort these days
What does that make TWEWY? Cousin Oliver?
What does that make TWEWY? Cousin Oliver?
At least TWEWY got an animated series
All we got is that dumbass rumor.
I'm sure Square will announce Chrono Reflect any day now.
150 tickets available via lotto through SE members, as expected:
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I'm hoping this event brings in a new hype cycle for KH4, from the bottom of my heart. I know those who like to look for patterns might think it's waaay further off, but please remember that that is all made up stuff in your head. Even if the event is something we only get through translations and tweets for a few days, it'd still be very special to me to go through one last major title reveal on KHinsider before I age out of wanting to post opinions online, lmao.
Tbh, if we get a KH4 logo/tease/trailer, or any major game trailers, it stands to reason that it'll probably be revealed simultaneously to the world, on Youtube and Twitter, and that it's the event specific goodies like music and Q&A that will come later. They're dumb with their info sometimes but they're really not dumb enough to reveal a major game privately.
Since Square is taking questions for the event....someone please ask about Kairi
Please
Since Square is taking questions for the event....someone please ask about Kairi
Please
Are we asking how she’s doing? If she’s eaten? How the training’s going?
Are we asking how she’s doing? If she’s eaten? How the training’s going?
Anything
Just anything
Like why she get the short end of the sticc
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Does anyone find it odd how much Ven is shown in the music video? Especially at the end - we see Ven twice and the music video ends on him.
Someone on twitter pointed this out and when I was watching the music video, I wondered the same thing. Intentional?
seizure warning
Does anyone find it odd how much Ven is shown in the music video? Especially at the end - we see Ven twice and the music video ends on him.
Someone on twitter pointed this out and when I was watching the music video, I wondered the same thing. Intentional?
I think the video editor just like Ven lol
I think the video editor just like Ven lol
Ven Ven is Fren Fren
Are we asking how she’s doing? If she’s eaten? How the training’s going?
Ask Kairi what Sora's doing and a bunch of other questions about Sora.
I think the video editor just like Ven lol
I really hope so, cause I'd rather have the next Kingdom Hearts game focus on Yozora or Ephemer instead of Ventus.
Ask Kairi what Sora's doing and a bunch of other questions about Sora.
Hey so about Kairi, how big are Sora’s shoes?
I'm calling it. The real reason why they're not livestreaming it is because they're going to reveal Kingdom Hearts NFT's. They don't want us pausing and right clicking the stream.
I think it has a 50% chance of happening
I mean Disney made a WALL-E NFT, which is ironic.
Square Enix seems to be interested in NFTs, Disney does too - it is looking possible.
Considering the fact that Konami "celebrated" Castlevania's 35th anniversary by selling NFT's, I would not be surprised one bit if Square Enix does this.
Considering the fact that Konami "celebrated" Castlevania's 35th anniversary by selling NFT's, I would not be surprised one bit if Square Enix does this.
I will literally just…walk away from Kingdom Hearts if they did an NFT.
I’ve had a year away from the series. I can let it go and replace it with better things that aren’t hoarding resources and destroying the economy and essentially engaging in art theft.
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Does anyone find it odd how much Ven is shown in the music video? Especially at the end - we see Ven twice and the music video ends on him.
Someone on twitter pointed this out and when I was watching the music video, I wondered the same thing. Intentional?
I said before in the Utada album thread that I felt like this remix could work as the intro for a Quadratum focused game (especially if it's a side game before KH 4).
If there's anyone that would have a connection with Quadratum, it would be Ven.
I don't think the video means anything, but this is the KH community so anything could be relevant lol.
If there's anyone that would have a connection with Quadratum, it would be Ven.
Why do you think that?
Watch SE make an exclusive NFT with the world premiere trailer of KH4 behind it.
Watch SE make an exclusive NFT with the world premiere trailer of KH4 behind it.
I honestly don't doubt they will try to do it sooner or later
In-Game keyblades that are also NFTs. You pay 10k and get a recolored Kingdom Key ?
Why do you think that?
He's the only one in the trios to be directly connected to the KHUX timeline. He was also around people that probably went into Quadratum to hide.
Considering the fact that Konami "celebrated" Castlevania's 35th anniversary by selling NFT's, I would not be surprised one bit if Square Enix does this.
I will literally sink into the god damn darkness itself if they actually do something like this.
Someone should ask (if they want, I mean) about how Kairi got her Keyblade, because we still don't have that mystery fully explained.
Or the "The Truth About Namine" book from 358/2 Days.
And Riku and Kairi's birthdays. Like, ever since Nomura said that, in Disney fashion, the characters birthdays are the day they first appeared in their respective product (and so Sora's is March 28th: the day KH1 was first released in Japan), the fandom has been headcanoning that Riku and Kairi's birthdays are days KH was released in other areas of the world (like September 17th for the U.S. or November 15th for Europe). But is this true. And if so, who has what birthday?
I'd ask these questions myself, but I don't have a Twitter.
I could maybe come up with more, if people want. Like about Kairi, that are hopefully good and interesting...
hype
Something I thought about just now, because there is going to be possibly 2 new keyarts revealed on the 28th...I believe one will be for the 20th anniversary of course.
What if the other one is Key Art for the next big title? They announce a game on the 28th but then say to keep an eye out on April 10th for the trailer of the game
I just came up with a theory regarding the anniversary event that I'd like to share with you all. What if the event concludes with a scene of Sora...going home...and having dinner with his mom.
I think it’d be cool to at least get a teaser of the new game at this event
I just came up with a theory regarding the anniversary event that I'd like to share with you all. What if the event concludes with a scene of Sora...going home...and having dinner with his mom.
Haha how original and funny
Haha how original and funny
would be hilarious if they just decide to ignore the Quadratum build up for it to happen off screen
I can't believe this shit is basically going down on my bday (the 9th in the states, so I'll still be up when the info drops). Is Launchy getting a special present or a disappointment?
I can't believe this shit is basically going down on my bday (the 9th in the states, so I'll still be up when the info drops). Is Launchy getting a special present or a disappointment?
I'm in Minnesota and Japan is 14 hours ahead, do we know when the event takes place? If it takes place 4 PM over there on the 10th, it would be 2 AM over here in Central Time
I don't see the reason to stay up tbh
I'm in Minnesota and Japan is 14 hours ahead, do we know when the event takes place? If it takes place 4 PM over there on the 10th, it would be 2 AM over here in Central Time
I don't see the reason to stay up tbh
it means, for those of us in the states, we'll know about the event the day before the event our time.
it means, for those of us in the states, we'll know about the event the day before the event our time.
I know, just don't see the reason to be up early in the morning. You could wake up at 6 AM or 7 AM on the 10th and there will probably be trailers, should get a good nights sleep
I know, just don't see the reason to be up early in the morning. You could wake up at 6 AM or 7 AM on the 10th and there will probably be trailers, should get a good nights sleep
all the good stuff happens when i'm asleep. like when i missed the Sora for Smash bros trailer.
all the good stuff happens when i'm asleep. like when i missed the Sora for Smash bros trailer.
true but it's not like they're live streaming it, they'll just randomly show up on the Kingdom Heart's Youtube page and twitter pages probably
all the good stuff happens when i'm asleep. like when i missed the Sora for Smash bros trailer.
*Gets up super early just to see Byleth announced*
Never again.
I believe admission to the event starts at 2pm JST and the main show starts at 5pm JST.
A handy trick is just going to google and typing in “5pm JST April 10” and google will automatically tell you what time and day that is for you in your local time zone.
I believe admission to the event starts at 2pm JST and the main show starts at 5pm JST.
A handy trick is just going to google and typing in “5pm JST April 10” and google will automatically tell you what time and day that is for you in your local time zone.
2AM, well then.
2AM, well then.
4AM for me.
I believe admission to the event starts at 2pm JST and the main show starts at 5pm JST.
A handy trick is just going to google and typing in “5pm JST April 10” and google will automatically tell you what time and day that is for you in your local time zone.
4 am for me. nope. not worth staying up.
1 am for me. I'll still be up then.
I normally wake up at 5 AM every morning, it's 3 AM for me, I don't think that's that big of a deal and the event could be a few hours long anyways.
I believe admission to the event starts at 2pm JST and the main show starts at 5pm JST.
That's 9:00 AM BST, I love it when an international event conveniently works around my schedule.
All I care about is the actual info we get on new Kingdom Hearts projects and those will probably get out on YouTube right after or in the middle of said event
All I care about is the actual info we get on new Kingdom Hearts projects and those will probably get out on YouTube right after or in the middle of said event
I'm going to cover my eyes so I don't get spoiled by the title of the video and click on the video lol.
Cuz if they announce Kingdom Hearts 4 - they'll say Kingdom Hearts 4 reveal trailer or something.
3 AM for me and since I wake up at 5 AM every morning this isn't a big change. Not sure its worth camping on Twitter/Youtube constantly refreshing for info crumbs.
Ugh, time feels so slow.
Part of me is wishing they just had the event set for the actual anniversary date instead of the 4th of April.
Like, I know, 104 and all that but yeesh.
Ugh, time feels so slow.
Part of me is wishing they just had the event set for the actual anniversary date instead of the 4th of April.
Like, I know, 104 and all that but yeesh.
same but I'm hopeful we might get some stuff on the 28th
Would anyone happen to know the time frame of when the event would be happening here in the states?
Want to see if its worth it staying up late :unsure:
Would anyone happen to know the time frame of when the event would be happening here in the states?
Want to see if its worth it staying up late :unsure:
Pacific Daylight Time: Saturday April 9th/April 10th (10:00 pm-4:00 am)
Central Time: April 10th (12:00 am - 6:00 am)
Eastern Standard Time: April 10th (1:00 am - 7:00 am)
Does anyone else think 104 and 10/4 have a connection? KH3 ReMIND ends with a direct quote from KH1's opening and the next game could be KH4, so what if's like some kind of code or hint: (KH)1 - 0 - (KH)4?
Well, that's my crazy KH fan theory for today.
Is there any chance that we get any info whatsoever from this event? I'm not staying up or waking up early for anything, not even KH, because when I wake up it's going to be there waiting for me, instead of having to sit through talking.
Is there any chance that we get any info whatsoever from this event? I'm not staying up or waking up early for anything, not even KH, because when I wake up it's going to be there waiting for me, instead of having to sit through talking.
It's poor optics to have a 20th anniversary event, hype it up on multiple official channels, and not showcase what is coming soon in the future.
THEN AGAIN that is exactly Square Enix's M.O. when it comes to anniversary events.
It'd be nice to get something in 6 days time on the actual anniversary, like confirmation that they'll be announcing a new game so people are more likely to pay attention on the 10th, but ?♂️
We know they're working on the next game. We know that they've had a couple of years of development time by now. KH3's main development finished in November 2018; Square Enix and Disney would have engaged in discussion about what IPs to include in the next game around that time. Concepts would have been approved, outlines approved etc. We know that Re Mind and MoM's cutscenes were done to keep the team busy while other things were being worked on for KH4.
But sometimes with Square Enix it feels like a "they don't know that we know" situation and we're left disappointed a lot lol.
Unrelated note but for KH's 10th anniversary there was an entire game released (Dream Drop Distance). Crazy how time flies.
I think we'll get something. I'm pretty sure Square wouldn't ban photos/footage from the Stage Show event for nothing.
I think we'll get something. I'm pretty sure Square wouldn't ban photos/footage from the Stage Show event for nothing.
I'm sure we will get something but I wonder what will be exclusive to the event.
I think we'll get something. I'm pretty sure Square wouldn't ban photos/footage from the Stage Show event for nothing.
I don’t think anybody thinks we will get nothing, but that we will get it so much later and by then it’ll all be spoiled anyways, and that there will still be a lot that is exclusive to the event.
I just hope that we get a HD quality video for the concert and that Utada will appear to promote her new album including the new theme for KH4) and sing a KH1-3 theme medley.
If we don't get a trailer right after the event, I'm going to have a meltdown. :)
If we don't get a trailer right after the event, I'm going to have a meltdown. :)
Most of the fandom will have a meltdown lol
I don't want to read text descriptions of what was revealed, I want to see it for myself.
So long as we don't get another Cable Town situation then I'm good. It helps that I keep forgetting about this event so I feel like I'll be pleasantly surprised.
So long as we don't get another Cable Town situation then I'm good. It helps that I keep forgetting about this event so I feel like I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Honestly that's was very annoying. This day and age these events could be easily streamed.
Honestly, I just need what is being released and dates. I rather see HD quality videos of trailers, instead of cellphone recordings with shaky hands and people screaming.
Honestly, I just need what is being released and dates. I rather see HD quality videos of trailers, instead of cellphone recordings with shaky hands and people screaming.
I’d rather have cellphone recordings with shaky hands and people screaming than nothing tbh
In 2018 there was also another “private” KH3 trailer, which I think was the orchestra trailer. But it was different than the official one we got. It was still nice to have.
I’d rather have cellphone recordings with shaky hands and people screaming than nothing tbh
In 2018 there was also another “private” KH3 trailer, which I think was the orchestra trailer. But it was different than the official one we got. It was still nice to have.
This. At this point anything to spite these closed event mentalities. Idk these events feel more elitist and gatekeepy than special.
I’d rather have cellphone recordings with shaky hands and people screaming than nothing tbh
In 2018 there was also another “private” KH3 trailer, which I think was the orchestra trailer. But it was different than the official one we got. It was still nice to have.
I was surprised that trailer never released. It has the first look and voice at Randall, the dancing mini-game in Corona, the release date!
It was great seeing it live since I flew to LA for the concert but man, it’s shitty that private trailers were still happening.
I hope that the rest of the world gets some 20th Anniversary merch, I really want that 20th Anniversary hoodie but the one I can order online is a small
God damn, remember back in the late 2000s when just about every new KH (or Square Enix in general) game trailer was shown exclusively at events and we had to rely on crappy phone recordings, if any, to actually see them?
We truly lived like savages back then.
Back then? Bruh they pulled this crap right up until just before KH3's release. Always expect the closed theatre when it comes to Square Enix, ALWAYS.
Back then? Bruh they pulled this crap right up until just before KH3's release. Always expect the closed theatre when it comes to Square Enix, ALWAYS.
Yeah. Occassionally.
Back then, we literally didn’t start getting new trailers released directly to the masses until like a month or two before the game’s release.
I remember back when we finally got to see actual footage of KH2FM and Re:CoM…
…released like a month before the game came out. Despite there being at least one trailer being shown behind closed doors months before.
Yeah. Occassionally.
Back then, we literally didn’t start getting new trailers released directly to the masses until like a month or two before the game’s release.
I remember back when we finally got to see actual footage of KH2FM and Re:CoM…
…released like a month before the game came out. Despite there being at least one trailer being shown behind closed doors months before.
I think there's some miscommunication and I could have worded it better - essentially I felt like your post implied it was a thing of the past and I just wanted to point out that it really wasn't, obviously the internet growing and E3 opening up to the public meant that there was a lot more content than we could have seen "back in the day".
I mean, at least we'll have a video of the event and the possible new game trailer released online.
Unlike the 2014 event where the concept trailer or whatever is still not shown.
So the whole "video will be available at a later date" has me thinking. It wouldn't be very good PR to announce a bunch of stuff and not immediately post it online right?
I understand the event recap video taking time to edit. But not any game/tv series /movie they might reveal.
I ain't no marketing expert but why hype the event online.
So the whole "video will be available at a later date" has me thinking. It wouldn't be very good PR to announce a bunch of stuff and not immediately post it online right?
I understand the event recap video taking time to edit. But not any game/tv series /movie they might reveal.
I ain't no marketing expert but why hype the event online.
I’m hoping this is the case, where the video is delayed for subtitles or to put in the answers to dev questions asked by the NA KH twitter account.
If any trailers or promo materials aren’t up in a reasonable timeframe then I’ll be sad. Feel like shit, just wanna be in Unreality.
I hope that the rest of the world gets some 20th Anniversary merch, I really want that 20th Anniversary hoodie but the one I can order online is a small
There's a 20th anniversary merchandise store? Is that the same place that has the chess set?
There's a 20th anniversary merchandise store? Is that the same place that has the chess set?
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you can get the exclusive stuff off here but they're expensive
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you can get the exclusive stuff off here but they're expensive
Those Sora glasses are calling me, but I don’t think I can get my prescription in them ?. Is there a website that I can have lenses made for them?
Those Sora glasses are calling me, but I don’t think I can get my prescription in them ?. Is there a website that I can have lenses made for them?
You can take your glasses to your local optometrist and see if they are able to install lenses.
I really want to give SE the benefit of the doubt but I won't be surprised if all we get is second hand translations from people attending the event and no videos on event day.
I really want to give SE the benefit of the doubt but I won't be surprised if all we get is second hand translations from people attending the event and no videos on event day.
we'll have to wait 3 weeks just like the KHuX updates lol
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you can get the exclusive stuff off here but they're expensive
OMFG!!!! When they released all the cutlery and plates, I didn't have the money to get them. But I have some money saved in the event of KH merchandise for the 20th anniversary, so I'm going to get some stuff.
Thank you!
I wish Xion had a sticker.
We're a week out now so here's the time table of the event:
13:30 - Reception desk opens
14:00 - Doors open
14:00 ~ 17:00 - Guests shuffle through the exhibition and cafe in designated groups
17:00 - Stage event begins
20:00 - Event ends
We're a week out now so here's the time table of the event:
13:30 - Reception desk opens
14:00 - Doors open
14:00 ~ 17:00 - Guests shuffle through the exhibition and cafe in designated groups
17:00 - Stage event begins
20:00 - Event ends
I'm not ready ?
But I'm also so ready. Just freaking give me some glimpse of hope, Papa Nomuraaaaaaaaaaa.
And don't forget y'all, go to google and type in "5pm JST" to see an automatic conversion to your locally set timezone.
3 Hours, I wonder how much of that time is announcements. 30 minutes of announcements?
And don't forget y'all, go to google and type in "5pm JST" to see an automatic conversion to your locally set timezone.
10 am for me BUT ON MONDAY
I’m going to be at work ?
10 am for me BUT ON MONDAY
I’m going to be at work ?
How is that possible? It shouldn't be any later than a Sunday.
How is that possible? It shouldn't be any later than a Sunday.
That's what I was wondering. I was so confused when I googled the conversion.
From what I can tell, I'm going to be waking up Sunday morning to the KH news and hopefully a live concert from Utada doing a KH theme song medley and debuting the KH 4 theme.
How is that possible? It shouldn't be any later than a Sunday.
oh wait. I read it wrongly. 10pm on Sunday it is.
Google said “17:00 Monday Japan Standard Time (JST) corresponds to 10:00 Monday in Germany”
But I didn’t read the first Monday and thought it was referring to 5pm on Sunday
It’s a week from today in Texas so it should be Monday. However it’s at 3 AM so I will be out cold by that point
Depending on whats announced what are you guys hoping for in terms of a teaser trailer? If it's the Quadratum game I'm hoping for a minute of Sora, Riku, or Yozora fighting Gigas in the streets before we get the logo.
Depending on whatever the next game is what are you guys hoping for in terms of a teaser trailer? If it's the Quadratum game I'm hoping for a minute of Sora, Riku, or Yozora fighting Gigas in the streets before we get the logo.
I actually don’t mind what the next game is because I’m so excited about any new entry. What I do hope is that the trailer is at least two minutes and not shorter
It’s a week from today in Texas so it should be Monday. However it’s at 3 AM so I will be out cold by that point
No, it’s Saturday rolling into Sunday. April 10th 1pm JST (when doors open) is Saturday April 9th 11pm. You will have new news when you wake up Sunday morning.
Depending on whats announced what are you guys hoping for in terms of a teaser trailer? If it's the Quadratum game I'm hoping for a minute of Sora, Riku, or Yozora fighting Gigas in the streets before we get the logo.
I want a trailer similar to ff16's reveal trailer
Honestly I'm just hoping we see Riku in Quadratrum and what characters are gonna be playable in the next title. I hope its not Yozora since I never really bought into the hype surrounding him.
I actually don’t mind what the next game is because I’m so excited about any new entry. What I do hope is that the trailer is at least two minutes and not shorter
A two minute or longer trailer would be cool. Really I'm ok with whatever the length is as long as it manages to wow me with what they show
A two minute or longer trailer would be cool. Really I'm ok with whatever the length is as long as it manages to wow me with what they show
They could show 2 minutes of Sora cooking in Quadratum and I'll be all for it lol
As long as any trailer(s) they might reveal are better than the Stranger of Paradise trailers, I'll be happy.
i want something that make me spring out of bed, even though i still need sleep, jumping for joy and making such a racket that my parents say 'what's the matter with you?!'
10 am for me BUT ON MONDAY
I’m going to be at work ?
NoWay.
I've booked the day off for the event. ?
oh wait. I read it wrongly. 10pm on Sunday it is.
Google said “17:00 Monday Japan Standard Time (JST) corresponds to 10:00 Monday in Germany”
But I didn’t read the first Monday and thought it was referring to 5pm on Sunday
Not to confuse you any further but wouldn’t it be 10am, not 10pm? Germany’s time zone is behind Japan.
I’m so grateful to be in a time zone that’s one hour ahead of Japan. It makes US / EU events a struggle to keep on top of but Japan treats us Aussies right.
It’s a week from today in Texas so it should be Monday. However it’s at 3 AM so I will be out cold by that point
Texas gang! I think you meant sunday morning, but our peers already let us know ?
My baby daughter wakes up around 3 am for her nightly feeding, so I might sneak in some KH news after she finishes.
Not to confuse you any further but wouldn’t it be 10am, not 10pm? Germany’s time zone is behind Japan.
I’m so grateful to be in a time zone that’s one hour ahead of Japan. It makes US / EU events a struggle to keep on top of but Japan treats us Aussies right.
Yes you’re right it’s 10am! That was a typo
Yes you’re right it’s 10am! That was a typo
Lunch and Kingdom Hearts 4 reveal. Is there a better combo?
Lunch and Kingdom Hearts 4 reveal. Is there a better combo?
The confirmation that we won’t get any mobile games anymore. :cool:
The confirmation that we won’t get any mobile games anymore. :cool:
You already know the answer to that.
You already know the answer to that.
We can have high quality mobile games, no?
We can have high quality mobile games, no?
Sure but is that what we are going to get? XD
Narrator: The answer would turn out to be No.
We can have high quality mobile games, no?
Sure but is that what we are going to get? XD
Best case would be Genshin Impact clone that, like GI, has a console version. Of course that's the best case for mobile, worse case for a new B-tier side game on consoles.
Best case would be Genshin Impact clone that, like GI, has a console version. Of course that's the best case for mobile, worse case for a new B-tier side game on consoles.
Honestly I’d rather a B-tier side game on consoles as long as it isn’t bad. We can have solidly good B-tier games, especially if they make it like KH2 (the benchmark to strive for as a B-tier game in this current gen imo) and not like KH3D or BBS with the command deck (despite how much I love the command deck).
Honestly I’d rather a B-tier side game on consoles as long as it isn’t bad. We can have solidly good B-tier games, especially if they make it like KH2 (the benchmark to strive for as a B-tier game in this current gen imo) and not like KH3D or BBS with the command deck (despite how much I love the command deck).
(RE:Coded had the best Command Deck) The way I see it, we got a few different levels of potential side games:
A. AAA/KH3 caliber game. Practically KH4 in all but name. This is likely if Nomura doesn't want the Verum Rex game to itself be KH4. Think Batman Arkham Origins, BIoshock 2, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood/Revelations, and anyother time a B team makes an entry to an ongoing console franchise. PS4/PS5 is lead platform but also on XBox/EGS if Sony doesn't moneyhat again,
B. BBS/DDD scale console/Switch game. Looks like another PS2 game but higher res. Blatantly obvious that Switch is the lead platform but still comes to Playstation & X-Box because no reason not to (Unless it has something crazy like Nintendo worlds as part of Grand Central Station). Think MoM if it were an action RPG.
C. Days/Coded/Union X/Dark Road remake. Honestly I'm not sure how Square intends to go about perserving the current mobile games in the long term but I'm tired of the smaller getting the cutscene treatment.
Also C. Warriors/Musou game.* Because Omega Force always pops out when you least expect them. I honestly like this idea too much to call it Option D.
E. GI style mobile/console game. Starts off promising in that it still plays like a 3D KH but with a bunch of characters (hello, fully playable Kairi & Mickey!) but the gatcha bullshit will inevitably drag it down.
*alternatively, insert Dissidia KH or LEGO KH games here. Basically any sort of more out there spin-off.
I could see them making a spin-off game that's in the KHUX style but it's a turned based RPG
Blatantly obvious that Switch is the lead platform but still comes to Playstation & X-Box because no reason not to (Unless it has something crazy like Nintendo worlds as part of Grand Central Station).
You've just presented a genuinely good reason for a Switch exclusive KH game and it fits surprisingly well as part of both KH and WiR. It's genius.
But I don't want to buy another console and it would be a legal nightmare for future collections, so I hope you genius idea is wrong even if I also kind of want to see it.
You've just presented a genuinely good reason for a Switch exclusive KH game and it fits surprisingly well as part of both KH and WiR. It's genius.
But I don't want to buy another console and it would be a legal nightmare for future collections, so I hope you genius idea is wrong even if I also kind of want to see it.
Its been on my mind ever since that 1 April Fools joke:
On 1 hand I didn't fall for it. On the other I still wished it was real anyway. I think back then I leaned towards Tron being the hub world since WiR didn't exist yet. Like Master Hand or Tabuu (the later being MX's Grid counterpart) takes over MCP's turf and use the heartless manufactory to spread heartless in the form of Nintendo baddies.
So the central theme was Nintendo villains in Disney worlds, Disney heroes in Nintendo worlds as Mickey teams with Mario, Stitch with Pikachu, Buzz Lightyear with Samus, Peter Pan with Link (Wind Waker world for the pirates), etc. Oh, and Sora's own Nintendo counterpart in Captain N, which is a bit of a deep cut.
I think the best 3rd Party cameo in a Wreck it Ralph world that they could do is Sonic. I feel like Sega would be okay with it, maybe you'd get Sonic as a Party Member and have a Eggman boss
Honestly I’d rather a B-tier side game on consoles as long as it isn’t bad. We can have solidly good B-tier games, especially if they make it like KH2 (the benchmark to strive for as a B-tier game in this current gen imo) and not like KH3D or BBS with the command deck (despite how much I love the command deck).
At this stage, they should only be focusing on:
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[*]Main title games KH3 level and beyond.
[*]Side games/DLC that are like 0.2, but basically have the same features as the most recent main title game. However, these games are on MAJOR consoles. NO PHONE GAMES.
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I know that CoM had its own gameplay system because it obviously couldn't emulate a PS2 game, but I would like to see INTERESTING/INNOVATIVE styles used in future side games. I would like a turn based RPG for Xion or Namine's game. But I think there lies the issue, WHO should be getting side games. I don't want them just handed out for no reason because that is just bait for Nomura to spend an enormous amount of time retconning whatever he did in that game to the main games.
That's why I rather KH adopt a streamlined approach moving forward. I hope that Nomura learned from the Dark Seeker Saga and planned out where things will go instead of make up as he goes.
I hope that Nomura learned from the Dark Seeker Saga and planned out where things will go instead of make up as he goes.
Hate to break it to you but… ? lol
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I would like KH4 or Verum Rex game announcement. PS5 exclusive. Developed using Unreal Engine 5.
Best case would be Genshin Impact clone that, like GI, has a console version. Of course that's the best case for mobile, worse case for a new B-tier side game on consoles.
I'm confident that if we ever get a new Kingdom Hearts mobile game, it's going to be inspired by Genshin Impact. Nomura loves taking inspiration from popular media.
I would like KH4 or Verum Rex game announcement. PS5 exclusive. Developed using Unreal Engine 5.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I assume that Verum Rex is going to be the Roxas' prologue equivalent for Kingdom Hearts IV.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I assume that Verum Rex is going to be the Roxas' prologue equivalent for Kingdom Hearts IV.
Extra long tutorials with unknown characters need to be a staple in this series.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I assume that Verum Rex is going to be the Roxas' prologue equivalent for Kingdom Hearts IV.
This is how I thought about KH4 happening if it is the next game:
- Yozora/Riku prologue in Quadratum
- Sora in Quadratum/Sora gets saved
- disney worlds
- Back to Quadratum as the Final World
I can see Quadratum either being its own game or the prolouge for KH4, either is fine with me but certain parts of the fandom are going to be mad either way about Disney worlds still being a thing or about Quadratum being relegated to a prolouge world if true.
This is how I thought about KH4 happening if it is the next game:
- Yozora/Riku prologue in Quadratum
- Sora in Quadratum/Sora gets saved
- disney worlds
- Back to Quadratum as the Final World
That's exactly how I see Kingdom Hearts IV playing out.
I'm also expecting a prologue game being released as the Chain of Memories equivalent between Kingdom Hearts III and Kingdom Hearts IV.
That's exactly how I see Kingdom Hearts IV playing out.
I'm also expecting a prologue game being released as the Chain of Memories equivalent between Kingdom Hearts III and Kingdom Hearts IV.
I feel like they could reuse a lot of the worlds from KH3 in this inbetween game, maybe have new stories but reuse parts from those worlds.
Sora & Riku would only have stories in Quadratum while Kairi will be visiting some of the KH3 Disney worlds like Toy Box, Corona & Arendelle. Feel like it's important for Kairi to meet some of the other Princesses and maybe she finds a way to Quadratum via Toy Box. I suppose they could add a new world like Princess & The Frog so Kairi can meet another princess.
The best way they can make Toy Box work is if Rex mentions how he's been playing this game that has a place called Quadratum.
This is how I thought about KH4 happening if it is the next game:
- Yozora/Riku prologue in Quadratum
- Sora in Quadratum/Sora gets saved
- disney worlds
- Back to Quadratum as the Final World
I see this happening.
Riku saves Sora, Yozora tags along. They need to escape Quadratum because they are not strong enough. go to Disney worlds to gain new knowledge/power to defeat the big baddie.
I find it hilarious how everyone says “Disney worlds” but we all know this means irrelevant filler content
Let’s hope for a midway point in the next game
Filler content or no I can't imagine a KH game without Disney worlds. Even the Quadratum game.
I find it hilarious how everyone says “Disney worlds” but we all know this means irrelevant filler content
Let’s hope for a midway point in the next game
Most people buy kingdom hearts for that "filler content".
Also I wouldn't be surprised if they announce something like a musou game or fourtune street game.
I find it hilarious how everyone says “Disney worlds” but we all know this means irrelevant filler content
Let’s hope for a midway point in the next game
... But Verum Rex was introduced in the Toy Story world? that's just one of many plot threads introduced via Disney worlds in Kingdom Hearts III. I know a lot of people don't like that entry but let's not ignore the fact that the Disney worlds were actually progressive for the plot unlike Kingdom Hearts II. Hopefully, this trend continues for Kingdom Hearts IV.
but let's not ignore the fact that the Disney worlds were actually progressive for the plot unlike Kingdom Hearts II.
You don't have to put down KH2 to talk up KH3 and also that's just flat out not true. With the sheer number of disney worlds KH2 had there are a few duds but there are plenty that relate/forward the main story.
... But Verum Rex was introduced in the Toy Story world? that's just one of many plot threads introduced via Disney worlds in Kingdom Hearts III. I know a lot of people don't like that entry but let's not ignore the fact that the Disney worlds were actually progressive for the plot unlike Kingdom Hearts II. Hopefully, this trend continues for Kingdom Hearts IV.
I get it. But I think what people mean is that disney worlds should be integrated in a more organic way into the story. KH3 really seems like a random trip around disney worlds before we get to the meat of the climax of this saga. The "power of awakening" stuff was a very weak as a reason, especially considering how sora ended up getting that power.
My idea of "organic" implementation of disney into KH story would be something like Coco's world being where sora ends up or whatever. It feels like the writers (or disney) have been adamant or afraid to actually implement these worlds in a way that isn't a disneyland ride through the movie's main story beats or a random adventure in the world (toy box, monsters inc). Space Paranoids and Timeless River are actually leaps and bounds above anything we've gotten since when it comes to disney integration.
I get it. But I think what people mean is that disney worlds should be integrated in a more organic way into the story. KH3 really seems like a random trip around disney worlds before we get to the meat of the climax of this saga. The "power of awakening" stuff was a very weak as a reason, especially considering how sora ended up getting that power.
My idea of "organic" implementation of disney into KH story would be something like Coco's world being where sora ends up or whatever. It feels like the writers (or disney) have been adamant or afraid to actually implement these worlds in a way that isn't a disneyland ride through the movie's main story beats or a random adventure in the world (toy box, monsters inc). Space Paranoids and Timeless River are actually leaps and bounds above anything we've gotten since when it comes to disney integration.
That’s what I also think. It’s really sad that the Disney parts aren’t that relevant anymore. I mean, yeah there were some good parts in KH3. Generally, I love KH3 and its Disney worlds are marvelous. But it didn’t feel like Sora Donald and Goofy matter. I mean, in KH2 we also played the movie plots. But Sora Donald and Goofy interacted with the Disney characters and it wasn’t for example Mulan vs Shan Yu but Mulan AND Sora Donald & Goofy vs Shan Yu. I also love how the Disney characters interacted with SDG in KH2.
KH3 had some good moments (for example Toy Box) but it was rather lackluster, although I really love KH3. I want more interactions between the KH cast and the Disney cast.
I've actually missed anticipating and waiting for news for this series. I felt like I spent so many years being a state of waiting for news for games that when KH3 finally hit, there was a void filled that I strangely enjoyed being in! Looking forward to the wait for the next in the series whatever it may come to be.
I've actually missed anticipating and waiting for news for this series. I felt like I spent so many years being a state of waiting for news for games that when KH3 finally hit, there was a void filled that I strangely enjoyed being in! Looking forward to the wait for the next in the series whatever it may come to be.
Yeah I feel you. But as much as KH3 hype cycle was fun, I really hope we never have to go 6 (or 7) years from reveal to game release ever again. As much as that made me look forward to every single E3 or whatever event that happened.
You don't have to put down KH2 to talk up KH3 and also that's just flat out not true. With the sheer number of disney worlds KH2 had there are a few duds but there are plenty that relate/forward the main story.
Lemme remind ya that the second half of KH2 only exists because SDG didn't go straight to Twilight Town after being given the box with the ice cream and photo.
Out of the entire second half we only got
The conclusion of the Xaldin thing
Riku and Xigbar[for five seconds] with Xigbar apparently turning a dragon into a heartless off screen.
Luxord.
The rest is "Oh no we gotta stop hades' tournament"
"Oh no we gotta stop Jafar"
"Oh no we gotta stop Scar's ghost"
"Oh no we gotta CATCH THE GIFT THIEF"
"O H N O U R S U L A"
"We gotta save Hollow Bastion again[best revisit imo]"
Like, the realistic course of events would be they get the photo and head to Twilight Town.
But they don't and the excuse for the revisits that is only mentioned in Beast's Castle IIRC is that they're looking for a way to the TWTNW.
If you wanted to you, with a little finnese you could just merge the first and second visits together.
Hot take: KH2's midpoint from the invasion of Hollow Bastion onward isn't a midpoint.
It's the beginning of the endgame disguised as a midpoint due to the second visits.
Lemme remind ya that the second half of KH2 only exists because SDG didn't go straight to Twilight Town after being given the box with the ice cream and photo.
Out of the entire second half we only got
The conclusion of the Xaldin thing
Riku and Xigbar[for five seconds] with Xigbar apparently turning a dragon into a heartless off screen.
Luxord.
The rest is "Oh no we gotta stop hades' tournament"
"Oh no we gotta stop Jafar"
"Oh no we gotta stop Scar's ghost"
"Oh no we gotta CATCH THE GIFT THIEF"
"O H N O U R S U L A"
"We gotta save Hollow Bastion again[best revisit imo]"
Like, the realistic course of events would be they get the photo and head to Twilight Town.
But they don't and the excuse for the revisits that is only mentioned in Beast's Castle IIRC is that they're looking for a way to the TWTNW.
If you wanted to you, with a little finnese you could just merge the first and second visits together.
Hot take: KH2's midpoint from the invasion of Hollow Bastion onward isn't a midpoint.
It's the beginning of the endgame disguised as a midpoint due to the second visits.
I don't disagree with anything you said, in fact I think it adds on to my post better than I could have written. The last thing I wanna do is turn yet another thread into a KH3 vs KH2 battle ground but really i guess it comes down to your personal preference on whether you prefer the excuse for the revisits or the excuse for KH3's whole main body. I don't think any of the first visits in KH2 are bad at all, but I am terribly bored by Agrabah 2, Halloween Town 1+2 (although as I get older I think I appreciate it more) and all of Atlantica.
Like I said, KH2's sheer quantity (revisits included) means there's some duds there but by the time I've finished the revisits (and some are optional) and go to Hollow Bastion (absolutely the best revisit btw) it re energisises the momentum for me. The original point was that KH3's disney worlds progress the plot unlike KH2's, which like, considering KH3 only has 7 of merit and off the top of my head I can think of 6/7 in KH2 that also progress the plot at the same rate as KH3's makes it a moot point for me.
Why put down an older game on a point that arguably isn't even true to prop up a newer game? It's just unnecessary and provocative imo. I don't think there's anything else to say cos we could totally get into it and while I'm sure it would be interesting I also don't think anyone wants to see that.
Interesting
this is fine.
If the next game is actually called Kingdom Hearts mobile, I wonder what that entails though.
As I said on Twitter, KH1 pocket edition? Something like the FF7 mobile remakes?
If the next game is actually called Kingdom Hearts mobile, I wonder what that entails though.
As I said on Twitter, KH1 pocket edition? Something like the FF7 mobile remakes?
I think it might just be a category for that playlist rather than the potential name of a title? Because there's already a KH Mobile. It was a social hub accompanying the original coded on phones.
I find it hilarious how everyone says “Disney worlds” but we all know this means irrelevant filler content
Let’s hope for a midway point in the next game
If by irrelevant filler you mean "the good parts of KH3", then sure.
On my last playthrough of KH2 it almost felt like Disney fun-times were the main plot that kept getting interrupted by the weird men in black coats subplot.
So yes, the original/Disney content balance in KH3 is bad, but at this point the bar is set really low.
That’s what I also think. It’s really sad that the Disney parts aren’t that relevant anymore. I mean, yeah there were some good parts in KH3. Generally, I love KH3 and its Disney worlds are marvelous. But it didn’t feel like Sora Donald and Goofy matter. I mean, in KH2 we also played the movie plots. But Sora Donald and Goofy interacted with the Disney characters and it wasn’t for example Mulan vs Shan Yu but Mulan AND Sora Donald & Goofy vs Shan Yu. I also love how the Disney characters interacted with SDG in KH2.
KH3 had some good moments (for example Toy Box) but it was rather lackluster, although I really love KH3. I want more interactions between the KH cast and the Disney cast.
I think there's no question KH3 did the Disney worlds better, but even it was just baby steps as far as integration goes. They could have at least involved Maleficent and the PoH more. Where they really blew KH2 out of the water was in level design for the Disney worlds. But for some reason the original worlds became almost nothing in 3, unfortunately, where the original worlds and Disney worlds seemed fairly equivalent design-wise in 2 and 1.
Hot take: KH2's midpoint from the invasion of Hollow Bastion onward isn't a midpoint.
And you might have a point about that, but nevertheless the second visits do exist and Radiant Garden does function as a midpoint for that reason. KH3 is lacking one. It didn't have to be Radiant Garden, but Radiant Garden's absence from 3 was a blunder of epic proportions, imo. If Nomura didn't have piss in his cornflakes over FFXV, both problems could've been solved simultaneously with RG functioning as 3's midpoint since everything happening in 3 connected to RG in a multitude of ways as it is. Instead, KH in general, KH3 as a game specifically, and the KH fandom all had to suffer because he couldn't get over himself. It especially bothers me because in my view the FFXV situation was his own fault for verging on George R. R. Martin levels of taking too long to get something out the same as he did with KH3.
Filler content or no I can't imagine a KH game without Disney worlds. Even the Quadratum game.
I agree. But I would be fine with a one-off game set in an original world as long as there are Disney characters populating the world or connecting to it somehow. Goes back to how I once posted here how neat it would be if, say, a world like Andalasia from Enchanted connected to it via the well that Giselle goes through to the 'real world' (which would be Quadratum in this case). Halloween Town and Monstropolis could be connected to it, too, via their doors. Roger Rabbit is another idea.
KH mobile games are like Thanos, they are inevitable. I'm just hoping for some news beyond that which is most likely.
I don't care if they announce a mobile game. As long as it isn't the only thing they announce. Like how they made a big deal of FF VII First Soldier and Ever Crisis.
Lemme remind ya that the second half of KH2 only exists because SDG didn't go straight to Twilight Town after being given the box with the ice cream and photo.
Out of the entire second half we only got
The conclusion of the Xaldin thing
Riku and Xigbar[for five seconds] with Xigbar apparently turning a dragon into a heartless off screen.
Luxord.
The rest is "Oh no we gotta stop hades' tournament"
"Oh no we gotta stop Jafar"
"Oh no we gotta stop Scar's ghost"
"Oh no we gotta CATCH THE GIFT THIEF"
"O H N O U R S U L A"
"We gotta save Hollow Bastion again[best revisit imo]"
Like, the realistic course of events would be they get the photo and head to Twilight Town.
But they don't and the excuse for the revisits that is only mentioned in Beast's Castle IIRC is that they're looking for a way to the TWTNW.
If you wanted to you, with a little finnese you could just merge the first and second visits together.
Hot take: KH2's midpoint from the invasion of Hollow Bastion onward isn't a midpoint.
It's the beginning of the endgame disguised as a midpoint due to the second visits.
Honestly, it would have made sense to go straight to Twilight Town ESPECIALLY because Sora was just informed that he was being used by the Organization to kill heartless. He had a one-liner after discovering this information to reflect on it, then swiftly moves on to killing more heartless without ever caring again.
The logical story progression would be to get to the Organization ASAP, considering that Sora (should have) felt like killing heartless would help the Organization.
I think the fix to this would be:
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[*]Sora going to Twilight Town to try and find the Organization/way to The World That Never Was.
[*]Heartless appear and Sora doesn't want to use the keyblade (reminiscent of Hollow Bastion visit in KH1).
[*]Some event denies Sora access to The World That Never Was/forces Sora to visit DISNEY worlds again (under the guise of finding the path to The World That Never Was).
[*]This addition will also prompt Sora to realize that he has to use the keyblade to ultimately stop the Organization, so he decides to continue using it to help people.
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And you might have a point about that, but nevertheless the second visits do exist and Radiant Garden does function as a midpoint for that reason. KH3 is lacking one. It didn't have to be Radiant Garden, but Radiant Garden's absence from 3 was a blunder of epic proportions, imo. If Nomura didn't have piss in his cornflakes over FFXV, both problems could've been solved simultaneously with RG functioning as 3's midpoint since everything happening in 3 connected to RG in a multitude of ways as it is. Instead, KH in general, KH3 as a game specifically, and the KH fandom all had to suffer because he couldn't get over himself. It especially bothers me because in my view the FFXV situation was his own fault for verging on George R. R. Martin levels of taking too long to get something out the same as he did with KH3.
I said that it was the start of the endgame disguised as a midpoint. The only reason it's seen as a midpoint is partially due to how there are three Org members with their faces still obscured and they gotta put them somewhere, and cuz they didn't put the stories of the Disney worlds into one but rather split them into two-parters that mostly have nothing to do with anything outside of said three Org members and Riku.
And I fail to see how the Versus XIII situation connects to ONE WORLD not being a playable area, nor do I see how Versus was Nomura's own fault when it was more Square's fault for giving him a project only to essentially keep him from working on it by putting him on other stuff and having his team taken to ALSO work on other stuff, an engine that was hard to work with since it was made with FFXIII's needs in mind, and then booting Nomura from the whole thing so Tabata can remove stuff Nomura planned to have in the base game, shove the Insomnia invasion into a movie as part of another multimedia FF project, fail to make a playable Lunafreya TWICE, deliberately make an unbalanced story, then end up cancelling the rest of the DLC and shit cuz he decided to quit.
One could argue Halloween Town related for being a metaphor for the Organization (seeking what they don't have as well as making Sora feel pity for that conflict). Agrabah also counts as a case of the Organization causing mayhem in the worlds, too, along with Port Royal. Pride Lands and the Coliseum are the more unrelated ones (and Atlantica is mostly unrelated to everything), but one could argue their and Space Paranoids/Radiant Garden's purpose was adding to the sense of finality leading into TWTNW. Anyway, the first visits generally feel focused on Maleficent & Pete (ending with Maleficent attempting to take back RG for herself and, having failed, attempting to protect Sora from the more powerful Organization at Radiant Garden), whereas the second half seems to mostly revolve around the Organization.
Nothing you said changes the overall points though--Radiant Garden did function as midpoint in KH2 and we (and the game itself) suffered for Nomura's pettiness having caused that world's absence in KH3.
I think the best 3rd Party cameo in a Wreck it Ralph world that they could do is Sonic. I feel like Sega would be okay with it, maybe you'd get Sonic as a Party Member and have a Eggman boss
Street Fighter can't be that much harder to get considering Ryu & Chun-Li pop up just everywhere. Hell, they're official power rangers now.
One could argue Halloween Town related for being a metaphor for the Organization (seeking what they don't have as well as making Sora feel pity for that conflict). Agrabah also counts as a case of the Organization causing mayhem in the worlds, too, along with Port Royal. Pride Lands and the Coliseum are the more unrelated ones (and Atlantica is mostly unrelated to everything), but one could argue their and Space Paranoids/Radiant Garden's purpose was adding to the sense of finality leading into TWTNW. Anyway, the first visits generally feel focused on Maleficent & Pete (ending with Maleficent attempting to take back RG for herself and, having failed, attempting to protect Sora from the more powerful Organization at Radiant Garden), whereas the second half seems to mostly revolve around the Organization.
Nothing you said changes the overall points though--Radiant Garden did function as midpoint in KH2 and we (and the game itself) suffered for Nomura's pettiness having caused that world's absence in KH3.
The Org's involvement in Agrabah is quite literally only mentioned in a missable dialogue piece. The Org might as well not be there at all, especially when all they did there was bribe the Peddler to shut up.
And I still fail to see how Nomura's bitterness over Versus equals RG not showing up in a playable capacity.
The Org's involvement in Agrabah is quite literally only mentioned in a missable dialogue piece. The Org might as well not be there at all, especially when all they did there was bribe the Peddler to shut up.
I headcanon it was actually Riku anyway. He used Sora as a diversion so he could destroy Jafar's lamp.
It appears another game from the GeForce leak has been officially trademarked.
Trying not to get my hopes up that this means an announcement for the KH game that was on there is imminent (even if it isn’t actually KH4.)
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It appears another game from the GeForce leak has been officially trademarked.
Trying not to get my hopes up that this means an announcement for the KH game that was on there is imminent (even if it isn’t actually KH4.)
Yeah. Every game in the nvidia leak is real. Whether the games were cancelled internally or not moved forward, who knows. But the games exist to sone capacity.
I'm sure there's no doubt in anyone's mind that the next KH game will be a console entry, regardless of whether it's called 4 or not, it's just a matter of when they announce it keeping Square's new policy on in development games in mind. Whenever it is, it'll probably after FF16/during the end of FF16's media cycle.
I was gonna say E3 was a sure bet this year but :/
Summer Games Fest is simply not the same and feels rather disjointed
I'm sure there's no doubt in anyone's mind that the next KH game will be a console entry, regardless of whether it's called 4 or not, it's just a matter of when they announce it keeping Square's new policy on in development games in mind. Whenever it is, it'll probably after FF16/during the end of FF16's media cycle.
I was gonna say E3 was a sure bet this year but :/
Summer Games Fest is simply not the same and feels rather disjointed
E3 is definitely the lesser of two evils. At least then we could expect nonstop news for a straight week vs being dripfed all summer (it's down to a month now, which is a small improvement).
Whatever they announce at this event, I'm sure there'll be trailers in June too so even if we get a small teaser - June (or July) isn't too far away.
My excitement for the franchise is returning! Just a few more days...
E3 is definitely the lesser of two evils. At least then we could expect nonstop news for a straight week vs being dripfed all summer (it's down to a month now, which is a small improvement).
Absolutely, it was one trade fair that everyone knew when to expect and could hold everything together. Now it's just, wait for this state of play or Nintendo direct and cross your fingers that game companies want to be a part of SGF. It being a week and being consistent for years meant that I could schedule what I wanted to pay attention to a lot easier as you pretty much knew in advance when things were gonna happen. I still don't know *why* it was cancelled, I guess game companies don't see the point of trade fairs anymore. At least the European stuff is hopefully coming back but E3 was that cornerstone that ties the whole year together. Now what are we gonna have? Paris Games Week and Gamescom in the Autumn, TGS and Jump Festa in December and nothing except EGX in the summer? Which is not as prestigious either. Not saying E3 was amazing but it was important. Its never great when a big event dies and loads of smaller ones take its place
Whatever they announce at this event, I'm sure there'll be trailers in June too so even if we get a small teaser - June (or July) isn't too far away.
I legitimately believe that Nomura is perfectly petty and ass-backwards enough to withhold basically everything to an exclusive, behind-the-doors audience on the series' twentieth anniversary.
And yet, if Square-Enix topside are also legitimately stupid enough to let him withhold it for that long, then the company as a whole are legitimately, utterly, braindeadingly hopeless.
Well don't be like that, I mean he does have a petty streak but it's not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be, and it's already been announced a video of the event will be released later on iirc
If they tease/announce a new title behind closed doors, I can't imagine the video won't be released to the public same day. We are definitely going to get information a new console release, whether or not it's AAA. The event being held on 10/4 all but confirms that.
He knows about the national traffic safety campaign, that's for sure.
Well don't be like that, I mean he does have a petty streak but it's not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be, and it's already been announced a video of the event will be released later on iirc
He threatened to intentionally delay future games in the west just because KH3 leaked a week early. :|
And...he wasn't like kidding or being ironical about that. It honestly really does seem at times that SE management has to chain the pitbull to the water hydrant to prevent it from hurting itself.
> Kojima tweeting a normal picture of a major city
KH Fans: REEEEEEEEEEE TROLLMURALOGIC HIS GENIUS IS UNMATCHED WHAT DOES IT MEAN KOJIMA X NOMURA
He threatened to intentionally delay future games in the west just because KH3 leaked a week early. :|
And...he wasn't like kidding or being ironical about that. It honestly really does seem at times that SE management has to chain the pitbull to the water hydrant to prevent it from hurting itself.
Yes I do know he said that and was annoyed at it myself but like I said, he is petty but not that petty, and frankly it was SE's fault for adhering to the dumb "America releases on Tuesday" convention that doesn't mean much at all, especially as 90% of Europe got fed up and released the game during the 25th-29th instead. If it was a proper WW release the magnitude of leakings happening between these dates may not have happened. Also feel like it's on Square for letting the game go gold in Nov (i think?) and sitting on it til January. Leaks are just something companies have to try and circumvent now and factor into plans, something that didn't happen here.
Anyway... I'm not exactly *not* used to KH games releasing months after Japan, but I highly doubt this system is coming back.
if Union X gets a remake for consoles, will it have customizable player characters again?
if Union X gets a remake for consoles, will it have customizable player characters again?
I sort of doubt it would be a 3D remake, more likely they keep the 2D assets but change the battle system again.
> Kojima tweeting a normal picture of a major city
KH Fans: REEEEEEEEEEE TROLLMURALOGIC HIS GENIUS IS UNMATCHED WHAT DOES IT MEAN KOJIMA X NOMURA
I'm definitely that guy in this thread lol
if Union X gets a remake for consoles, will it have customizable player characters again?
Depends if the game will focus on the Player or not, it's possible a Union X game could have you playing as Ephemer or Ven. I hope we play as the Player character because it would be fun with all the possible wacky outfits you could have.
I sort of doubt it would be a 3D remake, more likely they keep the 2D assets but change the battle system again.
I disagree with you. all the 3d assets for daybreak town, the foretellers, Ephemer, The NPC's at Ava's speech are all modeled. most of the worlds of X are also a part of KH LORE already. Cinderella, snow white, and sleeping beauty are already partially modeled from 0.2.
Re: Union X will be 3D.
Depends if the game will focus on the Player or not, it's possible a Union X game could have you playing as Ephemer or Ven. I hope we play as the Player character because it would be fun with all the possible wacky outfits you could have.
The KHX part of the story is heavily reliant on the Player so they'd have to be present in some fashion, unless they opt for the same strategy employed by early seasons of Supergirl where they're constantly referring to Superman offscreen as "the big guy" and "my cousin," only to drive everyone up a wall 8D
100% agree that returning to the Player is the best way to go. I'd prefer if they'd canonize them, especially as a girl because FeMC is best MC, but fat chance of that happening ?
I could see Ephemer being a feasible protagonist if they don't go that route, but not really Ven? By his own admittance, he's not a remarkable character and didn't do or accomplish anything noteworthy, and even after he becomes a Union leader, he contributes next to nothing and is effectively sidelined until the big revelation. Then he falls into a coma, wakes up for the confrontation with Darkness, and goes back into the coma for the remainder of the story.
Maybe Brain could work? He's got little to do with Player so they could avoid showing them, but is still a major contributor to the plot. I could see them whipping up some scenario to keep him occupied pre-war, but after that he remains heavily involved in the story all the way through to the end.
I disagree with you. all the 3d assets for daybreak town, the foretellers, Ephemer, The NPC's at Ava's speech are all modeled. most of the worlds of X are also a part of KH LORE already. Cinderella, snow white, and sleeping beauty are already partially modeled from 0.2.
Re: Union X will be 3D.
A full game with KH3-level graphics would require KH3-level budget and dev time. The cheap 2D mobile gatcha game that wasn't even a successful gatcha isn't worth that kind of investment in Square's eyes. Remember this is the same company that couldn't be arsed to port PS2 games to Switch. And 0.2 offers very little that can be reused, no inside of most of the castles or Termaine's house for example.
If a 3D game does happen at all, the best case scenario that I see is it has PS2/PSP graphics, reusing the PoL/Herc worlds from those past games. That'll leave just Daybreak, WiR, and a few new arras like Sultan's palace to create.
in particular they could make it in Unity and import assets directly from MoM. Then they could in turn use assets for Daybreak and Grand Central for new MoM DLC.
But again this is Square we're talking about. They're in full-on MinMax mode when it comes to game budgets. They don't seem to make anything anymore unless a 1st party pays for it.
A full game with KH3-level graphics would require KH3-level budget and dev time. The cheap 2D mobile gatcha game that wasn't even a successful gatcha isn't worth that kind of investment in Square's eyes. Remember this is the same company that couldn't be arsed to port PS2 games to Switch. And 0.2 offers very little that can be reused, no inside of most of the castles or Termaine's house for example.
If a 3D game does happen at all, the best case scenario that I see is it has PS2/PSP graphics, reusing the PoL/Herc worlds from those past games. That'll leave just Daybreak, WiR, and a few new arras like Sultan's palace to create.
in particular they could make it in Unity and import assets directly from MoM. Then they could in turn use assets for Daybreak and Grand Central for new MoM DLC.
But again this is Square we're talking about. They're in full-on MinMax mode when it comes to game budgets. They don't seem to make anything anymore unless a 1st party pays for it.
The thing is, it is a great disservice to the wreck it ralph world to remain as only 2d. It's funny cause its the only disney movie that was originally 3d that hasn't apperared in 3d full glory.
The thing is, it is a great disservice to the wreck it ralph world to remain as only 2d. It's funny cause its the only disney movie that was originally 3d that hasn't apperared in 3d full glory.
It is. It sucks to not have a proper 3D GCS or action based King Candy bossfight. But that's rather low on Square's priorities ain't it? And they probably intend to do Ralph Breaks the Internet in a future game anyway because how do you not do the princesses scene with Kairi?
[SPOILER]They won't do the princesses scene with Kairi.[/SPOILER]
The thing is, it is a great disservice to the wreck it ralph world to remain as only 2d. It's funny cause its the only disney movie that was originally 3d that hasn't apperared in 3d full glory.
personally I see it as an absolute win
Maybe its just me but despite knowing that Kojima and Nomura are friends I can't really get hyped behind Kojima posting a picture of the Shibuya Hikarie (?) building.
-And then you went on to become a game creator who shed more light on FFI many years after. What do you have planned this year after FF Origins? The Kingdom Hearts 20th Anniversary event is coming up too. Will this year be one filled with preparations?
Nomura: No, there's gonna be both. We have new things we're working on but also have things we are getting ready for releases too. It's going to be a busy year, and next year looks to be about the same too.
FF Origins interview translated by [USER=238943]@aitaikimochi[/USER] on twitter
Maybe its just me but despite knowing that Kojima and Nomura are friends I can't really get hyped behind Kojima posting a picture of the Shibuya Hikarie (?) building.
Because there isn't anything to be hyped over from it.
National. Traffic. Safety. Campaign. It's the banner he's taking a picture of. Not the building.
-And then you went on to become a game creator who shed more light on FFI many years after. What do you have planned this year after FF Origins? The Kingdom Hearts 20th Anniversary event is coming up too. Will this year be one filled with preparations?
Nomura: No, there's gonna be both. We have new things we're working on but also have things we are getting ready for releases too. It's going to be a busy year, and next year looks to be about the same too.
FF Origins interview translated by [USER=238943]@aitaikimochi[/USER] on twitter
Well.
FF Origin has DLCs in the works obvs, and the KH teams have been hard at work.
You don't have to put down KH2 to talk up KH3 and also that's just flat out not true. With the sheer number of disney worlds KH2 had there are a few duds but there are plenty that relate/forward the main story.
I've been seeing too much Kingdom Hearts III slander because so many people are so nostalgic towards Kingdom Hearts II that they intentionally ignore the weaker elements of that game that Kingdom Hearts III fixed.
I get it. But I think what people mean is that disney worlds should be integrated in a more organic way into the story. KH3 really seems like a random trip around disney worlds before we get to the meat of the climax of this saga. The "power of awakening" stuff was a very weak as a reason, especially considering how sora ended up getting that power.
My idea of "organic" implementation of disney into KH story would be something like Coco's world being where sora ends up or whatever. It feels like the writers (or disney) have been adamant or afraid to actually implement these worlds in a way that isn't a disneyland ride through the movie's main story beats or a random adventure in the world (toy box, monsters inc). Space Paranoids and Timeless River are actually leaps and bounds above anything we've gotten since when it comes to disney integration.
I admit, a weakness towards the narrative structure of Kingdom Hearts III was that we didn't have a midpoint breather in an original world but that doesn't invalidate the Disney worlds of that game whatsoever. The power of waking was a journey for Sora, the payoff wouldn't be as meaningful if he didn't have the experiences he had in the Disney worlds.
I will give credit to Space Paranoids and Beast's Castle for progressing the lore of Kingdom Hearts II, however, as creative as Timeless River was, it was still a filler world despite its creativity. The Symphony of Sorcery in Dream Drop Distance is a better example of a creative Disney world that smartly Integrated the main narrative.
I've been seeing too much Kingdom Hearts III slander because so many people are so nostalgic towards Kingdom Hearts II that they intentionally ignore the weaker elements of that game that Kingdom Hearts III fixed.
I admit, a weakness towards the narrative structure of Kingdom Hearts III was that we didn't have a midpoint breather in an original world but that doesn't invalidate the Disney worlds of that game whatsoever. The power of waking was a journey for Sora, the payoff wouldn't be as meaningful if he didn't have the experiences he had in the Disney worlds.
I will give credit to Space Paranoids and Beast's Castle for progressing the lore of Kingdom Hearts II, however, as creative as Timeless River was, it was still a filler world despite its creativity. The Symphony of Sorcery in Dream Drop Distance is a better example of a creative Disney world that smartly Integrated the main narrative.
I don't think it should count as "smartly integrated" if the world's purpose is to be the backdrop for 2 OCs talking that could just as well happen anywhere else.
I've been seeing too much Kingdom Hearts III slander because so many people are so nostalgic towards Kingdom Hearts II that they intentionally ignore the weaker elements of that game that Kingdom Hearts III fixed.
To be honest when I care to look at twitter I see the exact opposite. Either we're both right or we're both wrong and the truth is somewhere in the middle. I'm not sure many people on *this* site were outright slanderous though. Anyway, let's just put a pin in it and agree to disagree.
Nomura please hurry up and release KH4 so everyone can say it's the worst game they ever played and it's utter trash. We must restart the cycle.
I've been seeing too much Kingdom Hearts III slander because so many people are so nostalgic towards Kingdom Hearts II that they intentionally ignore the weaker elements of that game that Kingdom Hearts III fixed.
100%
I sort of doubt it would be a 3D remake, more likely they keep the 2D assets but change the battle system again.
A full game with KH3-level graphics would require KH3-level budget and dev time. The cheap 2D mobile gatcha game that wasn't even a successful gatcha isn't worth that kind of investment in Square's eyes. Remember this is the same company that couldn't be arsed to port PS2 games to Switch. And 0.2 offers very little that can be reused, no inside of most of the castles or Termaine's house for example.
If a 3D game does happen at all, the best case scenario that I see is it has PS2/PSP graphics, reusing the PoL/Herc worlds from those past games. That'll leave just Daybreak, WiR, and a few new arras like Sultan's palace to create.
in particular they could make it in Unity and import assets directly from MoM. Then they could in turn use assets for Daybreak and Grand Central for new MoM DLC.
But again this is Square we're talking about. They're in full-on MinMax mode when it comes to game budgets. They don't seem to make anything anymore unless a 1st party pays for it.
Another major upside/downside of of keeping the 2D assets of KHUX is that it could keep it as a project that BitGroove could do instead of needing a console-level dev team. Which isn't really ideal, but does keep it as low-budget and low-risk from the perspective of remaking a mobile gacha game that wasn't very successful in the first place.
[S]Besides, if SE is going to remake an unsuccessful mobile game into a console title Mobius FF is way more deserving of the effort.[/S]
"The Keyblade War needs high spec high powered hardware to be told"
*Keyblade War is eternally 2D chibi stuff*
"The Keyblade War needs high spec high powered hardware to be told"
*Keyblade War is eternally 2D chibi stuff*
Well they didn't show very much of it. Plus which Keyblade War was he even referring to? We got 2 of those and I'm betting on a 3rd in the future.
Nomura please hurry up and release KH4 so everyone can say it's the worst game they ever played and it's utter trash. We must restart the cycle.
I promise you The Simpsons rendition of Leonard Nimoy, I will never let go of my KH3 hate. I'll just hate every numbered game that isn't KH1.
Final bets before the event:
KH4/verum rex - 99%. even if it's just a teaser.
tv series for disney+ - 80%
re:union X as either movie or full on remake - 70%
KH1 up to KH MoM re-release for PS5/series X + steam - 50%
another spin-off before KH4/verum rex - 50%
Any game getting a PC port will be EGS Exclusive: 80%
KH4 teased - 100%
Game before KH4 as a stopgap, but it is a console title and is high-profile - 85%
Port of the PC versions to PS5/XBX - 80%
KH Disney+ series - 70%
Atlantis world reveal - 10000000000%
KH dating sim plz and ty - 9999999999999999999%
idk I don't know what I want out of this event. I just want something to latch on to that will make me happy?
Just wanna see Elsa and Rapunzel help Sora in Shibuya as his permanent team mates for KHIV.
KH4 or Quadratum Game Announced - 80%, but I'd be surprised if they show anything more than a logo.
Disney+ series - 0.01%
Chi Movie packaged in a 3.5 ReMIX or PS5 All-in-One port - 90%
Mobile game - 100%
It's Saturday bois
I predict:
[LIST]
[*]Utada will perform LIVE! and debut the new theme song for the next KH game (probably one of the songs off her new album)
[*]The next console KH game will be teased (maybe even a full trailer)
[*]Dark Road's release date will be confirmed (probably with a season and not an actual date)
[*]Re-master of everything for PSV.
[*]New artwork released for the next game.
[*]Yoko performs LIVE! and plays Nachtflügel which leads up to the new game reveal.
[*]Fans ask Nomura the wrong/stupid questions. After all these years, can SOMEONE ask him where Riku got Kairi's keyblade and his new keyblade?!
[/LIST]
Final bets before the event:
KH4/verum rex - 99%. even if it's just a teaser.
tv series for disney+ - 80%
re:union X as either movie or full on remake - 70%
KH1 up to KH MoM re-release for PS5/series X + steam - 50%
another spin-off before KH4/verum rex - 50%
i'll take those bets.
I'm going with:
- Quadratum Game/KH 4 reveal
- Disney+ (or animated series) in general
- New Mobile game reveal
KH4 or Quadratum Game Announced - 80%, but I'd be surprised if they show anything more than a logo.
Disney+ series - 0.01%
Chi Movie packaged in a 3.5 ReMIX or PS5 All-in-One port - 90%
Mobile game - 100%
What's the odds on the Sora amiibo?
KH4/Quadratum Game- 99%
Disney+ animated series- 70%
Another game outside of the ones I mentioned- 50%
Can't wait for the semi hiatus to end
Do you think they announce only the next AAA game or would they also tease another game that’s already in development?
I just want a new console game. Releasing this year.
Setting myself up for dissapointment I know.
Bets:
New F2P Gacha KH mobile game - 100% happening, and I'll even add that it will be a game that is fully inside Cid's computer with data to try to find sora.
New collection with next-gen improvements - 90%, will prob add ray-tracing to KH3, and I'm going to hate myself if this happens, but containing a final mix version of MoM with KH3 music and stages (these won't be available as paid DLC for base game)
Rumored Disney+ series - 80%, mickey and friends adventure after leaving for scala?
New console KH game - 70%, Yozora, finding sora game or whatever.
New P2P KH mobile game - 40% Continuation of Ux story.
New KH switch game - 30% - UX remake ty pls
When does the event take place?
I'm excited for the event tomorrow, can't wait to wake up tomorrow morning and see what news there will be.
I'm betting that we will get a KH4 reveal, I genuinely think that's the next game, January 2023 release.
They'll probably announce a mobile game too but I'm hoping for 358 2/Days remastered.
I bet they'll finally give a -hopefully- definitive date for Dark Road's ending, but the best thing they could do is releasing it just after the event. Not likely, though.
Whatever new game they announce I wish it's not a PS5 & Xbox Series exclusive, I can't afford a PS5 right now. Even if I could it would be difficult because of the limited stock. But I don't think they will release it on PS4 so... a Switch game, please? It doesn't need to have the best graphics ever, just a pretty game with the usual KH gameplay. I wouldn't say no to a different kind of game either, Melody of Memory was amazing.
I couldn't care less about the inevitable mobile gacha thing. I'll follow the story on youtube like I did with UX/DR.
I can't wait to see what they announce! Tomorrow I'll be compulsively checking this website and twitter every half an hour or so to see what info transpires. I'm worried we'll have to wait for the recap video of the event, I hope it doesn't take long.
And please, Square Enix, keep NFTs away from KH.
And please, Square Enix, keep NFTs away from KH.
I don't think you'll have to worry about that.
NFTs are already dying lol.
New KH switch game - 30% - UX remake ty pls
You know, considering this is a Japanese event and the Switch is vastly more popular there than PS4/5 (due to handhelds being more than consoles in general) one would think Square would be wise to announce a Switch game.
You know, considering this is a Japanese event and the Switch is vastly more popular there than PS4/5 (due to handhelds being more than consoles in general) one would think Square would be wise to announce a Switch game.
I’m sure one is happening. It feels bound to happen.
I’m sure one is happening. It feels bound to happen.
Hope so, I miss having portable KH games. Been half the franchise's existence since we've last had a real one. That you know, isn't gatcha, or cloud streamed, or a rhythm game. Is a proper handheld KH with no strings attached that much to ask for?
I don’t know why, but I really doubt a Switch game is happening.
My bet is KH4 for PS4/5, XBOX Series/One and PC.
I can’t imagine how the Switch would run a game which is also developed to run on the current gen consoles.
And I’m still waiting for KH3.5 with next gen enhancements
I don’t know why, but I really doubt a Switch game is happening.
My bet is KH4 for PS4/5, XBOX Series/One and PC.
I can’t imagine how the Switch would run a game which is also developed to run on the current gen consoles.
And I’m still waiting for KH3.5 with next gen enhancements
I'm assuming the switch game would be a game that was created specifically for the switch. Like BBS for PSP or DDD for 3DS.
Also...Can we just get to the event already?
Edit: So I know event starts at 1AM EST, but what are other notable times to keep an eye on apart from that?
Do you think they announce only the next AAA game or would they also tease another game that’s already in development?
We know they're working on two games: KH team's and the mystery team's. It's just a matter of if they're far enough along to show. All of Nomura's recent games have had a very short gap between announcement and release, like less than a year.
I'm unsure if I'll get any sleep tonight or whatever. I told myself not to get excited but of course I am. I don't even know what I'm excited for. A new game, new merch, something, anything. I stand by what I said about the mobile game. If that's the big announcement then I have my bag of popcorn waiting.
Honestly I think I just miss waiting for a confirmed KH game. I guess it's part of the fun of speculation.
Strangely I can't say that I'm too excited these days about KH games.
So much to do otherwise in RL and one crisis being heaped upon the other including constantly rising prices and inflation video games have become quite less of a priority nowadays.
I still haven't even completed KH III yet nor any money in the bank to think about getting a PS5.
While I still love KH and most of its characters as a franchise I do find myself rather detached and indifferent when it comes to the actual games themselves.
Y’all I’m still so salty this isn’t being live-streamed lol
I’m gonna be physically incapable of doing anything but compulsively refreshing Twitter all of Sunday
To be honest when I care to look at twitter I see the exact opposite. Either we're both right or we're both wrong and the truth is somewhere in the middle. I'm not sure many people on *this* site were outright slanderous though. Anyway, let's just put a pin in it and agree to disagree.
Yeah, you're right. These things are subjective at the end of the day. We all want the new Kingdom Hearts game already!
Nomura please hurry up and release KH4 so everyone can say it's the worst game they ever played and it's utter trash. We must restart the cycle.
I think people are going to be kinder to Kingdom Hearts IV because we really don't know what to expect this time.
I'm reserving my excitement. It's so cool to think that we're finally going to get back on the hype train for the series, especially after everything that's happened in the real world since ReMIND got released.
I'm hopping on here as soon as I wake up on Sunday, since the event should be over. I'm just worried that no one reveals anything from the event and we get nothing.
While I know it won’t happen, I’d love for this to go as hard as the Dragon Quest anniversary event last year where they announced a bunch of side projects on top of DQ12.
But realistically, I think one new game announcement and a Dark Road release date. If there’s another small release coming out later this year like Melody of Memory, that would be a nice extra surprise.
I'm assuming the switch game would be a game that was created specifically for the switch. Like BBS for PSP or DDD for 3DS.
Also...Can we just get to the event already?
Edit: So I know event starts at 1AM EST, but what are other notable times to keep an eye on apart from that?
Here’s the schedule again since it’s buried a bit now. The stage event begins at 4am EST.
13:30 - Reception desk opens
14:00 - Doors open
14:00 ~ 17:00 - Guests shuffle through the exhibition and cafe in designated groups
17:00 - Stage event begins
20:00 - Event ends
Alright everynobody, get your bingo cards ready!
*A multiple character game like BBS counts as a Kairi game if she still has a full length campaign.
**Speedstorm, Melee Mania, or any other Disney crossover game counts for the Sorcerer's Arena space.
***Why yes, I did put "Nomura No Shows" in the Free Space spot on purpose!
I don’t know why, but I really doubt a Switch game is happening.
My bet is KH4 for PS4/5, XBOX Series/One and PC.
I can’t imagine how the Switch would run a game which is also developed to run on the current gen consoles.
And I’m still waiting for KH3.5 with next gen enhancements
Eh? We have MoM as a reference point: make a game around the Switch's specs & scale upwards for PS4/5/XB versions. Granted, a lot of game companies tend to port downwards instead & Switch does support UE4, so maybe Square'll just be more mindful of it?
I'm reserving my excitement. It's so cool to think that we're finally going to get back on the hype train for the series, especially after everything that's happened in the real world since ReMIND got released.
I'm hopping on here as soon as I wake up on Sunday, since the event should be over. I'm just worried that no one reveals anything from the event and we get nothing.
I should do the same...but I cannot! Getting excited and the disappointment is part of the chaotic fun!
I should do the same...but I cannot! Getting excited and the disappointment is part of the chaotic fun!
I guess I should be getting my body ready for the hype train, as it's leaving the station tomorrow.
I didn't see anyone mention this, but would free MoM DLC be possible?
I guess I should be getting my body ready for the hype train, as it's leaving the station tomorrow.
I didn't see anyone mention this, but would free MoM DLC be possible?
As much as I would love DLC for that, I don't think it's happening.
If Melody of Memory is in some sort of 3.5 pack, I feel like they might add a song or two.
The suspense is killing me, I have a feeling everyone's predictions are going to be wrong
If Melody of Memory is in some sort of 3.5 pack, I feel like they might add a song or two.
The suspense is killing me, I have a feeling everyone's predictions are going to be wrong
Watch Nomura only reveal concept art for KH3 and ask everyone to "please be patient".
I guess I should be getting my body ready for the hype train, as it's leaving the station tomorrow.
I didn't see anyone mention this, but would free MoM DLC be possible?
DLC? Yes. Free? No. I could see them adding a new team with Kairi (Lea & Pluto maybe?), some UX songs, & at least 1 more boss.
Is it 4AM yet
Is it 4AM yet
we still got 16 mins to go.
we still got 16 mins to go.
wonder if the anniversary art will get revealed early
Is it 4AM yet
Happy 4am in Japan!
In Germany it still is 9pm. The event starts at 10am, so I’ve got 13hrs to go.
13!!! Is this a sign?
Welp, I wish I could stay up for the event but by the time it starts I'll either be asleep or heading to work at 5 AM lmao.
My own bets:
- New mainline KH game trailer
That's it
My own bets:
- New mainline KH game trailer
That's it
If its not KH4, then the entire internet will spend the next eternity arguing over the definition of mainline.
If its not KH4, then the entire internet will spend the next eternity arguing over the definition of mainline.
The series should just abandon roman numerals going forward, imo.
I think people are going to be kinder to Kingdom Hearts IV because we really don't know what to expect this time.
I don't think so. It doesn't matter what KH game it is, when it comes out the combat, level design, AI, whatever gets insulted to Castle Oblivion and beyond.
Can't wait to see how KH4 gets dragged through the mud and somehow KH2 remains the "peak" of the series.
Can't wait to see how KH4 gets dragged through the mud and somehow KH2 remains the "peak" of the series.
"The Osaka Effect"
Can't wait to see how KH4 gets dragged through the mud and somehow KH2 remains the "peak" of the series.
But then people will love KH3.
KH5 comes out and people will hate KH5 but love KH4.
This thread is already on fire ?
I’m looking forward to the mess that awaits us tomorrow
This thread is already on fire ?
I’m looking forward to the mess that awaits us tomorrow
I'm here exactly for the mess. When they announce KH4 is going to be a mobile game with delays I want to hear the delicious screams as every KH fan opens their hearts to darkness, myself included.
This thread is already on fire ?
I’m looking forward to the mess that awaits us tomorrow
I haven't seen this forum so active in awhile.
Usually there is one-two posts on the popular threads a day but I keep coming back.
Whatever is announced, there's going to be like 10 pages in a matter of hours
Is it 4AM now
Is it 4AM now
6 hours until the exhibit, 9 hours until the event =(
as every KH fan opens their hearts to darkness, myself included.
SUBMIT
6 hours until the exhibit, 9 hours until the event =(
Man
The series should just abandon roman numerals going forward, imo.
I don't think so. It will help differentiate the scope of the game. If I buy KHBbS, I know that I'm not going to be getting something on the level of KH2. Besides the numbered titles help direct to the main games. If all the titles had a subtitle, then it would be even more confusing and people would complain more.
Speaking of complain, I do feel like when KH IV comes out people will say that KH3 was better, but ultimately proclaim KH2 as the best. Up to this day, I still think KH1 is the best, but don't actively dislike any of the games (at least storywise).
I don't think so. It will help differentiate the scope of the game. If I buy KHBbS, I know that I'm not going to be getting something on the level of KH2. Besides the numbered titles help direct to the main games. If all the titles had a subtitle, then it would be even more confusing and people would complain more.
Speaking of complain, I do feel like when KH IV comes out people will say that KH3 was better, but ultimately proclaim KH2 as the best. Up to this day, I still think KH1 is the best, but don't actively dislike any of the games (at least storywise).
Sign's point is that by eliminating the numbers, you eliminate the expectations set by previous titles. There won't be anymore of the numbered titles vs titled games. If they make a titled game that is at the level of KH3, then it eliminates the stigma.
Like, the realistic course of events would be they get the photo and head to Twilight Town.
At the risk of derailing the topic again, you know what they could’ve done to make the Disney revisits more logical: make it so Twilight Town suddenly becomes inaccessible again for a while, like near the beginning of the game.
Like, have Twilight Town vanish from the map again after the second visit, and then not let it be accessible again until a bunch of the Disney revisits are done, with the in-universe reason being that they’re trying to find it again or something.
Hell, the fact that the third and final visit is suddenly locked behind a new gummi route makes me wonder if that was the original intention…
Time for the obligatory Shibuya related countdown music.
Guests have gathered in the entrance and are waiting to go inside.
*insert Eric Andre here*
white night i guess
Just want to say one last time before the event, that it was a dick move from them to not livestream this and once again shows their bias for the japanese fandom.
Anyway I expect:
- Nomura's finished illustration (should be finished, right?!)
- Dark Road update
- New game announcement
Just want to say one last time before the event, that it was a dick move from them to not livestream this and once again shows their bias for the japanese fandom.
I agree it’s a bad move. But I wouldn’t say biased towards the Japanese fandom considering it’s still an event that has limited attendance. There’s a lot of fans in Japan too who aren’t getting to experience this, making it worse of snub honestly.
Semi-related: I’ve wondered if SENA will do anything for the 20th anniversary of the North American release of KH1 in September. (That’s probably when they’ll post the translation of this event. ?)
They finally got Sora statues to look decent.
Edit: Anni artwork
No livestream and it’s 1 in the morning. I have no reason to be up, yet I can’t help but wait in anticipation for SOMETHING to come out of this.
Take note.
It's a screen.
One panel is blocked out.
What could it be, I wonder
KH4 BAYBEE
Supergroupies just announce a new collaboration and if I don't get paid in time to get a watch I'll be SICK, I wanted the roxas one so bad
There's a thing showing the boxart and logos of all the games
but one box of each is blanked, just like the blocked box on the anniversary art.
There's a thing showing the boxart and logos of all the games
but one box of each is blanked, just like the blocked box on the anniversary art.
Are you talking about this?
That settles it, I ain't sleeping tonight.
Are you talking about this?
Its a bit small but I think it says Reconnect Kingdom Hearts
Are you talking about this?
Yeah.
It just makes sense.
Two boxes reserved for something
The blocked out panel on the anniversary art
THE MARKETABLE NAMINE PLUSHIE[not related]
Its a bit small but I think it says Reconnect Kingdom Hearts
That's what I can read too but I'm not sure if KeybladeLordSora is looking at another image.
Edit: Ah! Answer above
There's a thing showing the boxart and logos of all the games
but one box of each is blanked, just like the blocked box on the anniversary art.
i’m so glad you used this clip :ROFLMAO:
I can’t freaking wait for this thing to start! Hoping for a Tangled-like world reveal if we do get a trailer.
Under 2 hours minimum for news in case SE want to be friendly but more likely 5 hours to go
This waiting for potential goodies is generating nostalgia I never thought I'd have... I'm here for it...
Time feels like it's intentionally moving slow
Time feels like it's intentionally moving slow
Only one more hour
Only one more hour
And then three hours of silence. So really we have four more hours of torture. THINK SPOCKANORT THINK.
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What the hell happened to Kairi's hair there?
And then three hours of silence. So really we have four more hours of torture. THINK SPOCKANORT THINK.
WHAT WILL YOU HAVE AFTER T H R E E H O U R S
I’m already living for the meltdowns ?
WHAT WILL YOU HAVE AFTER T H R E E H O U R S
if they announce KHIV
Hi everyone! I had completely forgotten it was the anniversary until now. It's kinda nice seeing the site bustling again, and the hype train starting to chug along. I missed these days.
Just 13 minutes now.?
No posting on social media allowed during the event so…bye!
No posting on social media allowed during the event so…bye!
Why just tell me why do they hate us so much
Why just tell me why do they hate us so much
It’s so dumb. Not having a livestream was dumb, too. It’s 2022. DQ had a livestream for goodness sake. DQ!
Why just tell me why do they hate us so much
Because both Square Enix and Disney's methods are obtuse, obtrusive and outdated. Together they create a dinosaur capable of frustrating the entire fanbase. Doesn't help that a creative like Nomura will want to be unhelpfully obtuse as well... Wait [USER=63641]@Oracle Spockanort[/USER] there was a DQ livestream? Did they announce anything?
Because both Square Enix and Disney's methods are obtuse, obtrusive and outdated. Together they create a dinosaur capable of frustrating the entire fanbase. Doesn't help that a creative like Nomura will want to be unhelpfully obtuse as well... Wait [USER=63641]@Oracle Spockanort[/USER] there was a DQ livestream? Did they announce anything?
I think the big thing they announced was Dragon Quest XII was in development on Unreal Engine 5.
But they had that on an internationally streamed live stream without a trailer or anything and KH can't get that.
there was a DQ livestream? Did they announce anything?
A whole bunch of stuff if I remember correctly.
Maybe they just want to keep the surprise for everybody because they are planning to upload the trailers right after the event?
I mean, this way they could avoid spoilers floating on social media and could assure that everyone can have a great first experience
No just forget it I’m just talking dumb stuff
I’m really starting to doubt we’ll get anything today except of some trailer descriptions on Twitter
Maybe they just want to keep the surprise for everybody because they are planning to upload the trailers right after the event?
I mean, this way they could avoid spoilers floating on social media and could assure that everyone can have a great first experience
No just forget it I’m just talking dumb stuff
I’m really starting to doubt we’ll get anything today except of some trailer descriptions on Twitter
Here's to hoping we get the former instead of the latter.
Inb4 KH13 launch a periscope stream using a potato phone that everyone will have to turn their laptops 90° to watch properly, huehuehue
[S]I know its not gonna happen anymore but we can but dream[/S]
two hours..
Pain.
Pain.
The real pain is there's apparently artwork of Zack that couldn't be photographed :'(
The real pain is there's apparently artwork of Zack that couldn't be photographed :'(
JSJDJDJSJS WHAT
Ignorance is bliss man AHHHHHHHHHH
Pain.
It would be nice if this meant the return of FF characters in Kingdom Hearts, but of course you can't celebrate the series past without acknowledging Final Fantasy so I won't get my hopes up just yet.
Pain.
Oh! It's also the two year anniversary of FFVII Remake's release, so I think this is Nomura's little way of having something to celebrate for VII.
real shit??
real shit??
They were in attendance and would be shitty to lie so I think they're being legit!
? Oh yeah, looks like I have a 100% betting success rate, eat that
Hope, it's true...
I have had nervous diarrhea 5 times tonight, it's been a hell of a birthday
English trailer
Gonna be honest, not sure how I feel about this yet. It didn't feel like Kingdom Hearts to me, but we'll see.
Missing-Link?
That's gonna be the next mobile gacha stuff, huh?
Also hello there Strelitzia,looking neat.
That kaiju pureblood looked super cool. And Sora moving like Spider-Man by turning his keyblade into a whip? So cool. But I'm soooooo tired of Hades, I couldn't care less about anything Olympus related anymore.
Sora looked more realistic. Stylistic choice? Or something lore important?
Strelitzia gives off Namine vibes from that brief appearance.
That looked absolutely incredible. Good riddance, Nort Saga.
Strelitzia gives off Namine vibes from that brief appearance.
I know it is probably more wishful thinking than anything else nowadays but I do still hope that Strelitzia gets a more fulfilling role than Naminé got after her first appearance in CoM.
Strelitzia is one of the keyblade wielders of the age of fairytales so she should be suitable as a party member.
Excitement is through the roof!!!! That being said I do have some issues.
I know it is probably more wishful thinking than anything else nowadays but I do still hope that Strelitzia gets a more fulfilling role than Naminé got after her first appearance in CoM.
Strelitzia is one of the keyblade wielders of the age of fairytales so she should be suitable as a party member.
I think she will. I was just getting KH2 vibes with Strelitzia taking that Namine role of explaining things to the confused audience. I too hope she doesn't just stay in that role...because that role is cursed! I want to start liking Strelitzia already!
Sora ran out to fight the Heartless and she didn't follow. That's making me think she's just an info dumper.
I'm gonna be honest here, I care less for Kingdom Hearts Missing Link than I do for Kingdom Hearts Dark Road.
I'm gonna be honest here, I care less for Kingdom Hearts Missing Link than I do for Kingdom Hearts Dark Road.
Honestly? I don't care much for both when it comes to be a game.
The only connection to them both by me will be the story-relevant cutscenes I watch here or on Youtube for comprehension's sake as far as that is possible with KH's wacky storytelling.
The subplot with Donald & Goofy talking with Hades, think it’ll lead to anything important? Hades does not have power over Sora, he’s not dead just really far away, but he might lie about that so he can trick a favor out of the duck and dog. Or Hades simply attacks them. They’d probably have big trouble trying to fight off a god without a keyblader helping out. Maybe Mickey or another keyblader shows up to help them? Whether Hades tricks or fights them it probably wont lead to any real information on Sora so I’m kind of scratching my head on the importance of this.
The subplot with Donald & Goofy talking with Hades, think it’ll lead to anything important? Hades does not have power over Sora, he’s not dead just really far away, but he might lie about that so he can trick a favor out of the duck and dog. Or Hades simply attacks them. They’d probably have big trouble trying to fight off a god without a keyblader helping out. Maybe Mickey or another keyblader shows up to help them? Whether Hades tricks or fights them it probably wont lead to any real information on Sora so I’m kind of scratching my head on the importance of this.
Nomura loves Hades, he'll probably play a huge role
The emotional rollercoaster of UX scenes flashing by and then...
another mobile game
S-surely UX in the Nvidia leak is real, i-it's just not ready to be shown yet
The remake will happen, it has to!!
Anyway Missing-Link looks like it might be fun. Real-time combat, exploration and multiplayer. Plus 3D and voice-acted cutscenes. Should help it feel more in line with the rest of the series. Although, with 3D movement, camera, lock-on, basic attacks and specials... is this gonna play OK on a touch screen? Not to mention most of the footage was widescreen. What's up with that?
Seems like Scala is already in mid-desertion. Kinda sounds like there might be an angle of discovering the past (Ephemera's time).
KHIV looks gorgeous of course. Totally called it on the new arc being "Lost Master."
I'm fucking *vibrating* because Strelitzia is there, somehow.
Sora watched Gurren Lagann during his week-long vacation
Chain grapple... replacing Airstep? Shorter range, maybe a context-sensitive prompt.
4th command slot is "Build"
Donald and Goofy looking for Hades, how much you wanna bet they and Kairi explore worlds related to death to find a way to reach Sora
Where is Riku??
okay. i just got up a little while ago and i have never been this hyped up in my life.
Does anybody else think that the Missing-Link gameplay is really ugly? I’m totally okay with the cutscenes, but Scala does look really bad during the gameplay segments
I would have preferred the Ux style as it has its own charm but maybe it’s just still early/rough footage
Donald and Goofy looking for Hades, how much you wanna bet they
and Kairi
explore worlds related to death to find a way to reach SoraInteresting. So you think they'll visit Soul and Coco after dealing with Hades?
Sign's point is that by eliminating the numbers, you eliminate the expectations set by previous titles. There won't be anymore of the numbered titles vs titled games. If they make a titled game that is at the level of KH3, then it eliminates the stigma.
Then why not just make every KH game a numbered title? It'd be much easier to place the order of the games with numbers versus needing to know if Birth By Sleep comes before or after 3D etc.
The subplot with Donald & Goofy talking with Hades, think it’ll lead to anything important? Hades does not have power over Sora, he’s not dead just really far away, but he might lie about that so he can trick a favor out of the duck and dog. Or Hades simply attacks them. They’d probably have big trouble trying to fight off a god without a keyblader helping out. Maybe Mickey or another keyblader shows up to help them? Whether Hades tricks or fights them it probably wont lead to any real information on Sora so I’m kind of scratching my head on the importance of this.
Well the group assignments have Mickey, Donald and Goofy searching past DISNEY worlds. It would be AMAZING if we get cutscenes in worlds with that group. But if Hades attacks them, I'm sure Mickey and/or Hercules will help them out.
I feel like out of the "past worlds" that Sora visited, the ones that deal with death are: The Underworld and The Caribbean. They could maybe slip in Halloween Town (doors to other worlds), Agrabah (to wish Sora back), and The Pride Lands (to maybe communicate with Sora like Mufasa does after death).
Looks like Famitsu was able to take a few pics of the forbidden wall of concept art ? Among the new stuff we haven't seen before:
Some KH1 enemy and Keyblade sketches. We've got colored versions of most of these from the Ultimania but it's always nice to see the originals. There's more in their article but I'm just pointing out the stuff we haven't seen before.
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Top right has a sketch for 2.8:
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Storyboards for one of the Days trailers:
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Looks like Famitsu was able to take a few pics of the forbidden wall of concept art ? Among the new stuff we haven't seen before:
Some KH1 enemy and Keyblade sketches. We've got colored versions of most of these from the Ultimania but it's always nice to see the originals. There's more in their article but I'm just pointing out the stuff we haven't seen before.
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Storyboards for one of the Days trailers:
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[/spoiler]Wow I love seeing the trailer storyboard art
More Nomura storyboards? Give me all of them, please!
I feel like out of the "past worlds" that Sora visited, the ones that deal with death are: The Underworld and The Caribbean. They could maybe slip in Halloween Town (doors to other worlds), Agrabah (to wish Sora back), and The Pride Lands (to maybe communicate with Sora like Mufasa does after death).
Good point about The Caribbean and Pride Lands, I hadn't thought of those two's connections to death.
I made an attempt at cleaning up some of the artwork. Can only do so much though.
Tagged for many pics.
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