I wonder if the final game will let us use Shortcuts instead of scrolling down to the Magic-Menu?

Man this looks amazing! I can't wait to see an upload without face cams and commentary. It was certainly nice to get a better look at .2 and what's in story with 2.8 Firaga is pretty much Mega Flare now too holy shit that was huge and powerful looking. Can't wait to see what else is in store and or if there are more spells as well.

That firaga finisher is ridiculous.

I watched a little bit and like Spock said when she played the demo, the hits really have weight behind them and enemies get stunned. That makes me really happy! That was one of the things that worried me a bit but I don´t have to anymore! I also love how smoothly the finishers and magic connects to combos, and you can even do Aqua`s finisher on the air now. I think in BBS it forces you to the ground when you activate a finisher.

Good old birth by sleep combat

Just as I feared, it's literally just BBS combat with the command menu. Floaty attacks and all. Damn it Osaka, can't you do anything right?

And those frame drops aren't helping either.

I just want to point out the last few comments. We got (in summary)
"Spock played the demo and said the combat is more stable and substantial than BBS"
"Good old BBS combat" (must have ignored the last comment)
"I watched the video and didn't play it, but I can tell it's the same floaty gameplay as BBS" (definitely ignored the other comment)

Sorry if it seems rude, I've just had my fill of people complaining to complain. I feel like the word floaty is thrown around just to sound cool, even when it's not the case (talking about 0.2 where I'm pretty sure weve had multiple first hand accounts that say it's a vast improvement on BBS gameplay). Sorry. I just don't like the word floaty to describe the gameplay. It's vague and overused. And in this instance, brings the views and experiences of the Mods to a level on unimportance.

I wish we could see some DDD HD gameplay already... I really want to see what the Reality Shifts are like.

Floaty is like the last word I use to describe BBS combat. BBS was so anti-float that the most base of air combat was tedious and made an enemy that moves at a snail's pace in the air one of the most obnoxious enemies in the game to deal with. Near every command or action in BBS grounded you or couldn't be used in the air period, which made Aqua's double jump laughable useless. Their air combos were laughably bad to with how stiff they were and how they wiffed. About the only thing that felt floaty in BBS was the jumping which had no sense of weight and yet felt like TAV had magnets pulling them to the ground. I mean more or less ALL of this was fixed with DDD...so I'm not really to worried about 0.2's gameplay.

BBS' gameplay was just shit and I don't see why people always have to defend it and go "HARDWARE LIMITATIONS!"...
I'm not even gonna elaborate on this, because this has been talked about millions of times and Hirokey listed most of it's fault's.

Unfortunately I don't believe La Cite de Cloches was available for demos. At each trade show they've brought the opening of 0.2, Riku in The Grid, and Sora in Traverse Town.

I mean, you can see they use the analogue stick for Traverse Town but until the game is released, it's highly unlikely we can see the rest.

[video=youtube;FkjtFpCnGxU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkjtFpCnGxU[/video]

Mhm, it was available. :3 Since E3, all 2.8 booths contained four demos - Sora (Traverse Town), Riku (Grid), Riku (Cloche), and Aqua (0.2).

Although...I actually made a mistake lol. I thought it was Sora in La Cite. Same thing though! And I DO remember seeing an off-screen vid with Riku using Faithline, but...the quality was beyond horrid lol.

But, thanks for that video! Never saw it before! :D Just what I was kind of looking for! lol

I know I'm pushing with this, but I still think it's Aqua's Battlestyle.
Again: I haven't played the game, so I'm not 100% sure

I still don't quite get what floaty means. I can assume it means like, your character barely touches the ground or it feels like they're always hovering??? Is it sliding on the ground or what?? Birth by Sleep wasn't like that. There was hardly any vertical space at all to float around. As others said, everything felt really grounded and rooted in Birth by Sleep. That's not a defense or an attack on the game, it's just how it is and I guess some people hate it or like it.

Maybe I'm just not very observant, but I never noticed such things while playing Birth by Sleep (when I play KH games, I just play the best I can and make up my own strategies, I'm not good at using guides or abusing the flaws in a system)

I've been watching every gameplay of 0.2 I can find and the only thing I could describe as floaty is her running speed and how it matches her feet. Is that 'floaty'? In the TGS gameplay, that doesn't seem to be a problem anymore from what I saw though.

If 'floaty' is just meant to describe all her aerial combat then... well... it wouldn't be very aerial if she dropped like a rock to the ground.

As for Aqua's movement, I still don't have much of an opinion on it. People have compared her keyblade attack speed to BbS and it's clearly faster now even if the movements are the same (I believe that is simply Aqua's style, and the same will happen with Ven and Terra. Only Sora, Roxas, and Xion share similar stances/attacks from what we've seen right?)

In BbS, Aqua attacking with her keyblade wasn't really all that great either way, it was her magic that mattered and they put a lot of effort in making her super mobile and flexible when casting her magic compared to BbS based on what I've seen. I love the twirl thing she does when she casts thundaga

[strike]Oops, this is E3 footage LOL[/strike]

About 0.2:
I'm okay with Aqua's style as long as her magic is strong and it's her style. The second I see Sora move as bulky as she does though, I'm probably gonna tick.
I didn't feel it as heavily as in BBS, but for example, instead of attacking an enemy in the air, Aqua had quite a lot of fun locking on to random lanterns in the area which quite bothered me honestly.

And please don't anyone give me that "you haven't read what Spock said!!1!"; I played the demo myself thank you.

Sora STILL has a fish face?!

The models for fish faces and full models are completely different I'm pretty sure. With a fishface, the only thing you have to do is have a few static expressions and move the body as you wish.

With a fully animated face well, there are a lot of points on the face to make the mouth move like a real math. I haven't done 3D modelling myself simply because of how much of a hurdle it seems to make a face look and speak like an actual face. Not to mention making the body look like a body.

If my eyes do not device me I think Aqua does aerial combos to the Shadows. If you timed it right you could do them in KH1 and KH2 even to enemies that were not in the air, so I think that coming back, which is nice. It was a bit harder to do in BBS and in DDD. I just love the way she moves and hits too. They are Aqua´s style like in BBS, but they seem much smoother. I like BBS combat, but at times it felt like you had strings in your body pulling you back, but the movement here is more free.

It looks to me more like Aqua has a combo master ability equipped because the way she was flowing from enemy to enemy in the air reminds me of say Days where combo master was innate so you just go from one enemy to the next save for a small cool down.

It's not really about fixing when it's not something that's broken.

For almost all video games, there are different models for characters, I think everyone basically guesses this, but there are reasons why they do it. Having a close-up high poly model and one for scenes where it's not as important are something that they do in order to focus on what needs to be focused on.

Sora and Riku already have new models to begin with, in fact most of the game I'd wager has new textures. But, going through the time to build and rig a 3D face for a low-poly model definitely wouldn't be a priority for them when it's not as important. For scenes like the kids in BBS Sora, Riku, AND Kairi were given high poly models because they were shown, close up, for incredibly important scenes. But it wasn't just a final mix thing, it was something they did for the international releases - and the wait between those releases was unbearable.

Are they noticeable for 3d now? Yeah, but I think it was a choice they made on purpose. Though, yeah, you don't have to like it.

I don't have to play it to know it's floaty. It's right there, on the screen. Aqua just stops and floats there in midair as if her attacks are completely impervious to the laws of gravity. Combat didn't work like that in KH1&2. Sora would propel himself upwards and then immediately drop, like a normal person should.

And yes, I'm obviously talking about aerial combat. But even ground combat doesn't hold a candle to KH2's.

it's so good that the kh fandom cycles through the exact same discussions every few weeks.
makes it very easy for newcomers

Thanks for making fun of me. Are we done now?

Are we all done being all salty for no good reason? Because given my low standards (I legit enjoyed Days' gameplay), I'm already pretty sure I'll be just fine with this battle system, plus I feel blown away every time I catch a glimpse of it. Just look at those glorious magic attacks! And the environments, holy shit, it's like the End of the World all over again except it's made up of chunks of world, rather than demonic candy land. If there's one thing we can be sure of, it's that Fragmentary Passage's gameplay will not be slow.

Unless things are constantly glitching out or the movements make the camera go crazy, I'm probably not going to care much if it's like BbS or KH2. For me it doesn't make much of a difference. As long as they make the bosses interesting (which it looks like they have), it's all good. I totally get why people hate having to cartwheel or dodge constantly so in that case, I hope that is fixed for them.

I can't really recall right now, but how did locking onto objects work in other games?

I remember in KH1... there was no lock-on symbol unless you activated yourself on objects like boxes or pots right? Maybe they need to do the same thing here?

Just had a peek at KH1 gameplay in Wonderland with all the flowers. It seems while you are in battle, the lock on points on the flowers and whatnot don't really appear. (Unless you're REALLY up on it)

So it seems like whatever system they had in place to acknowledge enemies over objects is not quite perfected. The lamps aren't completely random objects, they do provide focus and health looks like. But Aqua should have to go out of her way to attack the lamps which appear to be everywhere. Seems like an easy fix. Maybe.

Solution: make the lampposts lock onto and attack aqua

The lock-on was a big problem in the PS Access gameplay and hopefully the team has taken in that feedback and applied it to the game very soon, if not already.

I'm really liking the 0.2 gameplay. I decided not to try it for myself this weekend so I can't speak from a hands-on perspective but it looks like it has the potential to be extremely fun. It's good that what we experience with Aqua is what we will be experiencing with Sora and it allows Osaka to make any changes now before the game launches on [redacted].

One thing I don't like is Aqua's run. It doesn't look natural to me, the way she's covering long distances. I recognise the worlds are larger so they might have sped things up to cover a bigger distance but if they could make it look like how a person would actually move then that would be fantastic.

I wonder if they watch people play the game and pick out issues like fans do

The QA testers should have the same issues and provide that type of feedback.

Other than that, yes Square Enix does listen to issues people have with their games, especially with demos at trade shows.

Was I the only one who was excited to finally see Terra in 0.2 not froma phone recording the game? I started the video hype to finally see him in next gen graphics. Then they cut the video before that part

Hmm, I wonder if we will see a glimpse of the smarter enemies they have taking about in 0.2? It would be cool.