Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
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- Published on July 18, 2017 @ 11:54 pm
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"[W]e've sort of pushed it a little too much, or we've shown it so many times. So we haven't shown additional information beyond that"
-Nomura on the Attraction Flow System.
One interesting tidbit of information was the decision for the developers to focus more on newer titles and worlds for this Game:
“With Kingdom Hearts III, there was deliberate intent to kind of focus on the more newer titles. And then in terms of previous titles, we tried to balance it so that we have a good mix of some of the older IPs as well as some of the new worlds as well. But, yeah, with Kingdom Hearts III, there was a shift in that sort of thinking so we can focus on some of the newer titles,”
Another topic of note to players is the development teams focus on reigning in the flowmotion mechanic from DDD to make it easier to control based on player feedback:
“With the previous Flowmotion...it seemed a little too free. And we did receive feedback from the consumers that it was – they didn't know what to do with it, and it was kind of hard to control on their end. So we tried to refine it and it's evolved into now what we call Athletic Flow,” Nomura said.
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Kingdom Hearts III will release in 2018 on the PS4 and XboxOne.
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Re: Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
Okay, maybe Wreck-it Ralph or something could show up along with Frozen lol. But I still would be surprised with more than 2 more movies from this newest era, since we already have 2.
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Still convinced Xemnas is just trying to turn Sora into a Heartless.
Really basic, but that seems to be the case.
I'm happy about Maleficent doing something completely different and not even necessarily "against" Sora, although I hoped for a three way struggle. Oh well.
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Just as I suspected. Honestly films like Princess and the Frog, Big Hero 6, Tangled, Frozen, and Wreck-it-Ralph are all recent super sucessful films. And thanks to these films having vastly expanded worlds thanks to new CG technology (not counting Princess and the Frog), it's no surprise the direction has changed.
I can guarantee you all of the listed films above will be in the game.
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Just as I suspected. Honestly films like Princess and the Frog, Big Hero 6, Tangled, Frozen, and Wreck-it-Ralph are all recent super sucessful films. And thanks to these films having vastly expanded worlds thanks to new CG technology (not counting Princess and the Frog), it's no surprise the direction has changed.
I can guarantee you all of the listed films above will be in the game.
Well of the 5 you listed, 2 are officially in. But I heavily agree with you, since those movies are the ones that helped Disney become even more successful than ever before, they should all be in (please please PatF)...
Good to hear of newer worlds. Interesting info on Maleficent, but it makes it sound like she won't come into contact with Sora that much. I just hope I can lay the smackdown on Disney villains as Sora, as that is one of the highlights for me in KH, haha.
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We better get a Maleficent boss fight..better yet a duo with Pete.
So i guess Olympus is the only old Disney world returning which is fine by me..greater chance the ones i want make it in now.
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I'd rather have less returning worlds so this is fine. I just hope some of the new worlds are based on classic films. To be more specific I hope we get The Jungle Book at least.
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I'd rather have less returning worlds so this is fine. I just hope some of the new worlds are based on classic films. To be more specific I hope we get The Jungle Book at least.
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i doubt jungle book make it in they lost there chan in bbs and maybe they second chane at ddd becuase i believe jungle book could fit that game easily with sora becoming young again
Perhaps or perhaps it's the same deal as with Toy Story where they simply didn't have the right to use the IP yet.
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Hold on - I got a bit confused when reading the article on IGN. When Nomura says newer titles, does he mean movies that have been released more recently, or does he mean new worlds that have never been seen in Kingdom Hearts before? Cause I can definitely see the article meaning both, and I'm not sure which one.
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I really hope we get to hear Kairi's letter in gameplay. I have a feeling it would be hilarious XD.
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Perhaps or perhaps it's the same deal as with Toy Story where they simply didn't have the right to use the IP yet.
Hold on - I got a bit confused when reading the article on IGN. When Nomura says newer titles, does he mean movies that have been released more recently, or does he mean new worlds that have never been seen in Kingdom Hearts before? Cause I can definitely see the article meaning both, and I'm not sure which one.
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Sigh, I really want to see what Kairi will do in KH III... I just had a thought... I'd love it if we could play as Kairi in Frozen. ^_^
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Sigh, I really want to see what Kairi will do in KH III... I just had a thought... I'd love it if we could play as Kairi in Frozen. ^_^
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Moana and Zootopia were deconfirmed earlier.
Now looks like low chances for Treasure Planet,Jungle Book etc.
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Moana and Zootopia were deconfirmed earlier.
Now looks like low chances for Treasure Planet,Jungle Book etc.
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Jungle Book just got a remake, so that actually has a higher chance now than ever, especially since Nomura has been wanting to put it in the series since KH1, and each time it's been cut.
That being said, Flowmotion was diddlying fantastic and I will fight each and every consumer who complained about it and caused them to not ever use it again
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Wait what, I didn't hear about this UltimaXOmega, do you have a source on that Zootopia/Moana deal?
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Wait what, I didn't hear about this, do you have a source?
The source for the article is in the OP.
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I tried quick-searching in the article, and I did not find anything about Zootopia/Moana specifically.
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I tried quick-searching in the article, and I did not find anything about Zootopia/Moana specifically.
Zootopia and Moana won't appear in KH3 due to BH6 being the last world chosen to be in the game.
I think that is what UltimatexOmega meant.
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I checked the article to see if it said BH6 was the last world, but I didn't find anything in the IGN article.
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I checked the article to see if it said BH6 was the last world, but I didn't find anything in the IGN article.
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Hopefully this means flowmotion won't make platforming irrelevant in regards unreachable items/collectibles like in DDD. There you could go anywhere and stuff like High Jump and Glide weren't as useful.
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that might still happen i really think kairi is the second playable that will be reveal later
The absence of Attraction Flow & Summons does make me wonder if one or both of those abilities are being given to another character I glance these to see if Nomura explicitly mentions Sora when talking about them & he kinda hasn't.
As for Kairi being a potential candidate...
If there's no limit to time then why couldn't Kairi spend like five years worth of training in the span of a minute? Writing letters seems a bit pointless. In theory she could be a 2nd PC, but they still make it sound like she's sitting the game out again.
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As for Kairi being a potential candidate...
If there's no limit to time then why couldn't Kairi spend like five years worth of training in the span of a minute? Writing letters seems a bit pointless. In theory she could be a 2nd PC, but they still make it sound like she's sitting the game out again.
I will not he happy if this is the case. The fans have been clamoring for years for more Kairi relevance.
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The absence of Attraction Flow & Summons does make me wonder if one or both of those abilities are being given to another character I glance these to see if Nomura explicitly mentions Sora when talking about them & he kinda hasn't.
As for Kairi being a potential candidate...
If there's no limit to time then why couldn't Kairi spend like five years worth of training in the span of a minute? Writing letters seems a bit pointless. In theory she could be a 2nd PC, but they still make it sound like she's sitting the game out again.
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Tbh this is the perfect title to have Kairi as the second character considering that she is a potential Guardian, a PoH which are still technically being targeted by Xehanort, and lacking in any development outside of her KH1 personality which was 16 (or 15?) years ago.
I love ma boi Riku but I'd be okay with him sitting this title out if it means the very first female lead in the series could actually, I dunno, be relevant.
Also, if Merlin could take people to the Hyperglicenic Lion Tamer (which has no limits apparently which is fucking dumb), then why the hell didn't Sora use it before DDD? Why didn't they use it for Ansem and Xemnas???
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I'm not surprised that they made that change to flowmotion. Once you got the hang of it, you could abuse it to travel a huge distance while avoiding unnecessary fights. That and dodge attacks while dealing damage with the flowmotion attacks xD
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Tbh this is the perfect title to have Kairi as the second character considering that she is a potential Guardian, a PoH which are still technically being targeted by Xehanort, and lacking in any development outside of her KH1 personality which was 16 (or 15?) years ago.
I love ma boi Riku but I'd be okay with him sitting this title out if it means the very first female lead in the series could actually, I dunno, be relevant.
This right here.
It's not that other characters would be bad, but some might get more usefulness out of it than others I guess.
Also, if Merlin could take people to the Hyperglicenic Lion Tamer (which has no limits apparently which is diddlying dumb), then why the hell didn't Sora use it before DDD? Why didn't they use it for Ansem and Xemnas???
That concept is really dumb. Like, another set of Dragon Balls in GT dumb.
Nomura should've never introduced it.
Also,
| Hyperglicenic Lion Tamer |
You get one more.
Re: Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
As long as I can turn [strike]shit[/strike]Flowmotion off…
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Hrm..
-You can super jump at any time using blizzard spells to make a rail.
-We've seen Sora do the flowmotion wall jump and the flowmotion dash
-We've seen Sora chain flowmotion jumps to climb up the Rock titan
-Shot locks can be used to let you go into a crazy flowmotion dash from enemy to enemy, which you could do in DDD but only on big enemies and you had to control it all manually now it does it for you and seems to work on any enemy you can lock onto.
So when I look back I don't think "too free" means he's talking about the ability to go anywhere he's talking about that it's inherently a kind of overwhelming concept. Like you can go anywhere with it but what does that mean, what do you do with that kind ability and people just sort of get lost in trying to figure out it all. From the looks of it they haven't nerfed the movement they've just made it all more obvious on how to use it and created more situations where there is reason to use it. Like the shotlock enemy dash is the easiest prevalent example. As I said it's something you could do in DDD but it's very unwieldy the control is all yours but you're constantly fighting with flowmotion's auto-lock, the wide turn radius the dash has, the requirement of enemies of a specific size being needed, and it was unsafe to manage this while you're trying to concentrate on the fight as each dash was done manually. Now they've literally turned it into you just hold down the shotlock, lock onto the enemies, then press the flowmotion option and the rest is done for you.
From what we've seen...
-You can now cancel out of flowmotion with regular attacks as opposed to being locked in which means there is a lot more incentive to use it as a movement, add in its new launcher attack for quick ways to start aerial combos it's a lot more seamless in gameplay now.
-You don't need to manually flowmotion dash from enemy to enemy the shotlock can now do all that work for you.
-You don't need to figure out areas you could wall dash and climb via flowmotion, because now if they have the sparkle effect you can lock onto them with shotlocks and it will do all that dashing and movement for you.
-You also don't need to search for things to flowmotion now you can create them both blizzard and the drill aero created spells that allowed you to activate flowmotion. The rail grind lets you do the super jump and super slam whenever you what while the aero spell put them into a flowmotion dash as opposed to HAVING to have some kind of environment piece to use like an actual wall or rail.
You know it seems sort of the same thing they did with the free run mechanic. Like in 0.2 before you'd have to do all those jumps across gaps yourself using your platforming abilities which could be unwieldy. Especially in say games like KH1 where the physics and detection boxes were abysmal. Now instead of jumping from platform to platform you just walk up to it and the game does the jumping for you. Or like in the olympus trailer we saw Sora run up a small wall by getting near it that he could have easily just jumped and grabbed the ledge to pull himself up. The name of the game seems to be using automation and simplified controls in order to give a larger and easier to use variety of actions. This could be either terrible or fantastic and it will all depend on how it actually feels once it is in our hands.
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It probably just has more specific usage in certain areas to jeep you from bouncing off the walls at all times and flying everywhere and sort of negating the usefulness of each world's design. Besides it's a little unsightly to have the main character flying around everywhere and the to tip for party members not being able to follow without teleporting.
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The whole "more new Disney properties" is vague enough in my opinion that it could be a mixture of "Disney movies recently released" and "Disney movies never featured in Kingdom Hearts before". Since the Toy Story world has a completely original story that manages to be canon-compliant with the movies, I was thinking maybe we could go back to The Grid for a continuation of TRON: Legacy, see what happened on the Grid after Sam and Quorra left.
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Lord please no more Tron, we've had enough of that. And hopefully Kairi getting a lot of training in a short amount of time means that she'll be at least close to the others in terms of skill even if I think it's cheap. I'd rather they cheat and make her competent than leave her on the sidelines yet again.
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So I guess Olympus is the only old Disney world returning which is fine by me..greater chance the ones i want make it in now.
Honestly, I still believe that we will have three returning Disney worlds (with Agrabah being one of them). Just having Hercules return would really rub fans the wrong way.
And I'm glad to see that Maleficent as a character has been redeemed. Her role already sounds more interesting than it was in Kingdom Hearts II.
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Honestly, I still believe that we will have three returning Disney worlds (with Agrabah being one of them). Just having Hercules return would really rub fans the wrong way.
And I'm glad to see that Maleficent as a character has been redeemed. Her role already sounds more interesting than it was in Kingdom Hearts II.
I'm not so sure it would rub fans the wrong way to just have one returning world. I have a feeling most fans outside of this forum are more interested in new worlds then older ones
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I'm not so sure it would rub fans the wrong way to just have one returning world. I have a feeling most fans outside of this forum are more interested in new worlds then older ones
I've heard a lot of people who want to see The Nightmare Before Christmas return in this game outside this forum. And come to think about it, in the D23 2015 Expo, there was a shutout to Aladdin and The Nightmare Before Christmas.
[video=youtube;HgNaHA4LNxc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgNaHA4LNxc[/video]
If you skip to 4:48, the mention of Aladdin and The Nightmare Before Christmas is there. I know they can be interpreted as examples, but there's more popular Disney properties that were represented in the game.
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:/ I really loved the feel of the flowmotion in DDD so I really hope it doesn't change too much...
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I'm glad you can't just moonjump everywhere now.
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I'm glad you can't just moonjump everywhere now.
We...really have no evidence that's the case at all you realize that right? We've already seen Sora can still dash into walls to super jump off them and he moon jumps as you call it up rock titan. All it seems they've really done is automate the system to make doing it easier and allow you to cancel it. I'd just be careful about getting the wrong impression right now is all until we see more.
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No Agrabah again please.
Lilo and Stitch should be the only other returning Disney world.
Maybe POTC too.
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I'd easily take Unreal Engine Agrabah over Lilo and Stitch. Agrabah is a staple!
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Lilo & Stitch is in my top 5 Disney movies ever but tbh I would rather see the Agrabah arc finally finished in the last installment of the Xehanort Saga. Antar is right, it is a sort of staple. Besides, the third Aladdin movie has all new locations. We could easily have Agrabah without it being, well, KH1 or KH2 deadass NPCless Agrabah
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Yea I am really hoping Agrabah returns, honestly I just hope we get atleast ONE more returning world. Mainly it's because I love something about revisiting friends we met before. I don't want to just meet new people over and over again. It was always cool to me to see Sora visit old worlds and be like "yea ill help you, we got history together!" rather than helping strangers he just met.
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If sora didn't meet new people he wouldn't have people to revisit. Only so many times you can revisit the same people.
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I hope we get to go to Shibuya. Sora made a deal with Neku after all.
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Yea I am really hoping Agrabah returns, honestly I just hope we get atleast ONE more returning world. Mainly it's because I love something about revisiting friends we met before. I don't want to just meet new people over and over again. It was always cool to me to see Sora visit old worlds and be like "yea ill help you, we got history together!" rather than helping strangers he just met.
I mean, I get what you're saying... but everyone in KH1 was a stranger. Tbh I think having a thought process of "let's have everything be new!" is just as bad as "let's have everything be old!"
CoM, Days and Coded are the least popular titles in the series because they literally are just old worlds and faces only (though at least CoM had a reason to be that way and was more endearing).
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Not saying everyone should be old, just that it is fun to revisit some of them. So I don't want just one old world is my point.
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No Agrabah again please.
Lilo and Stitch should be the only other returning Disney world.
Maybe POTC too.
Pretty sure Nomura would consider a full Lilo and Stitch world a new world. He always does when its a new area, and doubly since there is no way they would name it "Deep Space"
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Not saying everyone should be old, just that it is fun to revisit some of them. So I don't want just one old world is my point.
Considering Nomura already talked about the FF cameos making a comeback again it is almost certain that Radiant Garden will be there again so if it is just about the "meeting old friends as well"-concern we already have two worlds where Sora revisits people he already knows, three if we count Twilight Town and if Hayner & co. are still there.
That's not to say there won't be any more returning Disney worlds though.
KH 2 had six returning Disney worlds (Disney Castle, Pooh, Atlantica, Halloween, Agrabah, Olympus), six new Disney worlds (Timeless River, Mulan, Beast's Castle, Pride Lands, Port Royal, Tron) and three playable original worlds (Twilight Town, Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden, The World that never Was).
What we know so far is that a) KH III will have in total less worlds than KH 2 (was he speaking generally though or specifically Disney worlds?) and b) that Nomura and the team want to focus more on new material this time.
If we go by the premise of the same amount of playable original worlds (three), we already have Twilight Town confirmed and Radiant Garden is highly probable to be the second, which would leave the last spot for the final world.
Considering Nomura's knack for the number 13 maybe this'll be the total amount of worlds, leaving room for ten Disney worlds in total compared to the twelve in KH 2.
We already know about :
- Olympus (returning)
- Corona/Tangled (new)
- BH6 (new)
- Toy Story (new)
leaving six worlds unaccounted for.
Considering Nomura's statements on focusing on new material for KH III I'd say out of these six there may be four more new worlds (bringing the total amount of new worlds to seven, yet another one of Nomura's number games) while two more are returning Disney properties (bringing that amount to three, like the prevalent trio-stuff in the series).
Of course, I bet there are now those coming around the corner who say what, only three playable original worlds, and two of them are old ones (and the third possibly too if the final world is indeed the Graveyard)! That's boring/ungainly, what about this new world Young Eraqus and Xehanort are supposedly in? What about Castle Oblivion/Land of Departure? Daybreak Town?
The first two are probably all cutscene-only folks, and Daybreak might not even be featured at all.
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Please at least have Jungle Book in. I don't just want a slew of modern films. Kingdom Hearts was always good at showcasing the full history of Disney in their games.
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@Sephiroth
Nomura was talking about Disney worlds in regards to the less worlds thing.
also i want playable labyrinth/MC Escher style Castle Oblivion in UE4 please
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@Sephiroth
Nomura was talking about Disney worlds in regards to the less worlds thing.
also i want playable labyrinth/MC Escher style Castle Oblivion in UE4 please
Ah, I see.
So that means in terms of overall worlds, original included, KH III could still reach the same number of worlds as KH II originally had?
If so, this would of course open up the possibility of more than three original worlds being featured in a playable form.
When looking at playable original worlds only, so far there were always two to five originals present during each game:
KH 1: Destiny Islands, Traverse Town, Hollow Bastion, End of the World (4)
CoM: Destiny Islands, Traverse Town, Twilight Town, Hollow Bastion, Castle Oblivion (5)
KH 2: Twilight Town, Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden, The World that never Was (3)
Days: Twilight Town, The World that never Was (2)
BBS: Land of Departure, Radiant Garden, Keyblade Graveyard, Realm of Darkness (Final Mix Secret Episode only) (4)
Re: Coded: Destiny Islands, Traverse Town, Hollow Bastion, Castle Oblivion (4)
DDD: Traverse Town, The World that never Was (2)
BBS 0.2: Realm of Darkness, Destiny Islands (2)
X[chi]: Daybreak Town, Keyblade Graveyard (Browser-version only so far) (2)
Going by this, KH III having four or even five playable original worlds doesn't sound too farfetched.
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That seems reasonable. I really can't imagine there being any gameplay involved for Castle Oblivion, unless the Organization have suddenly taken over it again. I also would think there's very little to do in the Land of Departure by addition unless they do something with it via the prologue with Young Xehanort and Eraqus.
As for the returning Disney worlds, I'm probably the only one who wants to see Wonderland return in some capacity, mainly because every rendition of it so far has seemed limited both artistically and map design wise due to console limitations. I think there's a lot of new things they could explore with a returning Wonderland. In comparison I'm not too fond of Aladdin returning but only because KH2 Agrabah left a sour taste in my mouth.
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That seems reasonable. I really can't imagine there being any gameplay involved for Castle Oblivion, unless the Organization have suddenly taken over it again. I also would think there's very little to do in the Land of Departure by addition unless they do something with it via the prologue with Young Xehanort and Eraqus.
Well, considering Xehanort is attempting to locate the Chamber of Waking, which is in CO, it's not out of the realm of possibility that one of the new Organization would be wandering about in there looking for it.
As for the Young Xehanort and Eraqus prologue, that's actually in another world, most likely Cable Town.
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I can see gameplay for Castle Oblivion but i imagine it would be relatively short, something like 3x-4x the length of the white hall in the caverns of remembrance.
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I can see gameplay for Castle Oblivion but i imagine it would be relatively short, something like 3x-4x the length of the white hall in the caverns of remembrance.
I imagine the Castle Oblivion floor from CoM and the room structure from Re:Coded taken up to eleven and made into an MC Escher like maze since there are no memory and room cards to give the rooms a proper shape. Bonus if it's all 13 floors and the Chamber of Waking is at the top of Floor 13.
Of course, CO could also be the puzzle world. Each floor involving a puzzle that requires solving in order to proceed to the next floor.
Re: Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
That seems reasonable. I really can't imagine there being any gameplay involved for Castle Oblivion, unless the Organization have suddenly taken over it again. I also would think there's very little to do in the Land of Departure by addition unless they do something with it via the prologue with Young Xehanort and Eraqus.
As for the returning Disney worlds, I'm probably the only one who wants to see Wonderland return in some capacity, mainly because every rendition of it so far has seemed limited both artistically and map design wise due to console limitations. I think there's a lot of new things they could explore with a returning Wonderland. In comparison I'm not too fond of Aladdin returning but only because KH2 Agrabah left a sour taste in my mouth.
Once Mickey and Riku have saved Aqua the portion when it is time to rescue Ventus could certainly be playable and with the new party system, all three of them could be additional party members for SDG as well.
Since Young Eraqus and Xehanort are in a new world, it wouldn't be a playable LoD appearance IF anything regarding them is playable.
If Aladdin returns, it should mostly feature areas we haven't been to yet, like i.e. the palace of Agrabah as a whole while entirely omitting others like i.e. the Cave of Wonders.
Well, considering Xehanort is attempting to locate the Chamber of Waking, which is in CO, it's not out of the realm of possibility that one of the new Organization would be wandering about in there looking for it.
As for the Young Xehanort and Eraqus prologue, that's actually in another world, most likely Cable Town.
Looking for the chamber didn't work for ten years so it won't work suddenly now, but as said above, there are other possible scenarios as to why C.O. could be playable.
LoD literally can't be playable outside of possible flashbacks as long as C.O. exists obviously.
It remains to be seen though if this is a cutscene-only world, or possibly even the new final world?
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Generally, if we look at all original worlds we have ten plus the new one teased with Young Eraqus and Xehanort:
Destiny Islands
Radiant Garden
TWTNW
Twilight Town
C.O./LoD
Daybreak Town
Traverse Town
Realm of Darkness
End of the World
Keyblade Graveyard
"Eraqus/Xehanort Chess world"
Out of these, Twilight Town is confirmed and Radiant Garden very highly likely.
Nine remaining, yet out of those Traverse Town and End of the World can probably be ruled out to be playable from the get go.
That leaves us with
- Destiny Islands
- C.O./LoD
- TWTNW
- Realm of Darkness
- Keyblade Graveyard
- Daybreak Town
- "Eraqus/Xehanort Chess world"
If we assume two or three of them to be playable based on four or five playablde original worlds in total this means that either four or five of these have to be cutscene-only or not being featured at all.
TWTNW, Destiny Islands and Daybreak Town are probably prime candidates for being cutscene-only worlds, although it is certainly possible that at least Daybreak Town isn't featured in KH III at all.
Depending on what exactly the final world is, one of the three out of Realm of Darkness, Keyblade Graveyard and "Eraqus/Xehanort Chess world" could also be cutscene-only, with the other two plus C.O. forming the three other playable original worlds
Re: Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
Hmm, Kairi's training is going to be "touched upon" which to me kiiind of sounds like she might not get an important role in KH3 either. Of course it could be that she'll do... something later in the game, but it really doesn't sound like she's actually going to get a lot of screen time. Oh well.
I'm glad they've listened to the complaints about flowmotion and acknowledge them. Good good. I feel a little better about it being there, if they're actually putting more effort into making it a good working system this time.
Re: Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
Hmm, Kairi's training is going to be "touched upon" which to me kiiind of sounds like she might not get an important role in KH3 either. Of course it could be that she'll do... something later in the game, but it really doesn't sound like she's actually going to get a lot of screen time. Oh well.
Re: Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
Athletic Flow, huh? Fair enough. I was fascinated with Flowmotion on the 3DS, really added charm and action for me, though I ended up spamming Shock Dive and actually to this day I still do. That's the easy way I guess. I don't know how Flowmotion is complicated to use, the only move I didn't control well was Pole Spin and Buzz Saw, as it was a pain to control the direction of one's Dodge Roll precisely towards a thin latern, I ended up missing it
Re: Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
Hmm, Kairi's training is going to be "touched upon" which to me kiiind of sounds like she might not get an important role in KH3 either. Of course it could be that she'll do... something later in the game, but it really doesn't sound like she's actually going to get a lot of screen time. Oh well.
Touched upon means that it will have a focus. That's basically the opposite of not having any importance. I get that this forum hates Kairi, but man, you don't have to jump the gun so soon.
Re: Nomura: KHIII Intends to Focus on Newer Titles, DDD's Flowmotion Was Too "Free"
Touched upon means that it will have a focus. That's basically the opposite of not having any importance. I get that this forum hates Kairi, but man, you don't have to jump the gun so soon.
The forum hating Kairi is a under statement, it like the site completely outside the bias ones or ones who really hate she gets no treatment or the hate for all the girls minus Skuld
I rather not any Sue trouble from canon or non canon, so let's wait for more information unless it's a spoiler on Kairi.
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July 19, 2017 @ 12:06 amOffline