Square Enix Reveals TGS 2012 Lineup!
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- Published on September 3, 2012 @ 02:55 am
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Square Enix has finally revealed their official lineup for Tokyo Game Show 2012 taking place September 20th - 23rd! While Kingdom Hearts will not be at the event, The World Ends With You -Solo Remix- for iOS products will be appearing alongside other upcoming titles like Bravely Default: Flying Fairy for the Nintendo 3DS and FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn for the PlayStation 3 and PC! Perhaps we'll even get lucky with some secret trailers? A new game announcement?
Source: Square Enix Events via Twitter
COMMENTS
Nobody knows how much I want a game reveal for TWEWY. KH is great and I love it but I don't expect to hear anything about it for some time. Unless they reveal some kind of "out of the blue" game for KH then WELP.
But TWEWY. TWEWY has a chance. A big chance. ;A;
It's possible that a new KH thing could be announced, right? Or does something say for sure that KH won't be around at all?
Dunno. KH is not on the list of games to appear at the event. That doesn't mean we might not see anything, but don't get your hopes up.
My main hopes are for a TWEWY 3DS sequel. But I'm also crossing my fingers for a HD KH Collection. Probably won't happen, but dear god I want it. ;w;
I want TWEWY and KH. Must have. Do want. But just a TWEWY announcement would be amazing. :D
Still disappointed that Versus XIII won't make an appearance.
I'm interested in Bravely Default and hearing about FF3 PSP.
Well, this list is sort of disappointing. Oh well. Like many others here, I'm hoping for a closed theater type deal. I want to get more news on the possible TWEWY sequel, KH (though, sadly, I doubt it'll be there), Versus, Lightning Returns, and maybe the FFX HD Remake. Oh, and of course a possible Type-0 localization. Any one of these things will make me really happy, and I hope we see at least one of them.
Or who knows? Maybe Square will surprise us again like they did with Agni's Philosophy? And maybe they'll do something with that and/or FFXV (if they aren't one in the same, that is).
Still... I'm not getting my hopes up on anything. Though Square has a lot they can surprise us with, I'm going to believe that all we'll see is what's they've listed as their lineup. But man do I hope I get proven wrong!
Well there goes the anticipation that I had when it came to Tokyo Game Show.
Wow TGS time already? Time sure does fly, I remember this time last year where I had just joined these forums to follow KH3D's coverage,but enough reminiscing.
No KH in the lineup? Thats to be expected, maybe they'll surprise us with it but not likely, well then I hope Square cooks up something good this year, the line up seems pretty boring right now imo, but thats just me :P
It's possible that a new KH thing could be announced, right? Or does something say for sure that KH won't be around at all?
I'm thinking the same thing. HD collection or a fighter (<---strange, I know)
And why no Versus!?
Dunno. KH is not on the list of games to appear at the event. That doesn't mean we might not see anything, but don't get your hopes up.
So... do you think a KH3 announcement is possible? or an HD collection?
Well there goes the anticipation that I had when it came to Tokyo Game Show.
I really hope square never makes a game like FF Versus XIII again. so that we don't have to wait the same amount of time (or maybe even more) for KH4.
I thought we were supposed to hear something KH related soon? Nomura said that months ago, hopefully something KH related might pop up.
I thought we were supposed to hear something KH related soon? Nomura said that months ago, hopefully something KH related might pop up.
Looking at how games have been announced in the past, usually we know what the next KH game is pretty soon after the last known one has been released. Days-BBS-Coded were all announced at the TGS after KH2FM released, and then 3D was announced before BBS even released in NA.
I thought we were supposed to hear something KH related soon? Nomura said that months ago, hopefully something KH related might pop up.
Nomura's "soon" and our version of it are two different things, though. LOL. I mean, look at what happened with Versus and BbSV2 (which is all but cancelled now).
In all honesty, though, I hope we hear something. I know some people are hoping for a KH3 announcement, but I don't have much hope that we'll see it anytime soon. Unless, magically, they've already begun working on it. That would either mean the Osaka team's started on it after all, or Versus is getting closer to completion. Anyway...
Nomura's "soon" and our version of it are two different things, though. LOL. I mean, look at what happened with Versus and BbSV2 (which is all but cancelled now).
In all honesty, though, I hope we hear something. I know some people are hoping for a KH3 announcement, but I don't have much hope that we'll see it anytime soon. Unless, magically, they've already begun working on it. That would either mean the Osaka team's started on it after all, or Versus is getting closer to completion. Anyway...
BBSv2 wasn't really anything that existed, though. It was all just fan conjecture until Nomura said "there is a story there, but no plans to make a game about it."
BBSv2 wasn't really anything that existed, though. It was all just fan conjecture until Nomura said "there is a story there, but no plans to make a game about it."
Yeah, you're right. I guess I just took this quote to mean they had started on something: "I used 'A Fragmentary Passage' without regard to its context. What I mean is, there's a story for Volume Two, without using that scene." I suppose I just assumed it was the Mystery Game without much evidence, but it seems it's just an idea Nomura had that he might implement later (like maybe in KH3).
Out of curiosity, did we ever find out what the Mystery Game was? Nomura always confused me when he talked about it, especially since he seemed to hint that the Secret Episode in BBSFM was tied to it. But I might be mistaken on that front... Either way, it seems like the next KH is definitely III. If we do see the Mystery Game, it'll probably be in the next saga...
Ya Im personaly not expecting any big reveal this year. I think Squares got there hands full as is what with all there projects. Im really looking foward to Breavly Default and does anyone know if Tomb Raider will make an aperance?
In all honesty, though, I hope we hear something. I know some people are hoping for a KH3 announcement, but I don't have much hope that we'll see it anytime soon. Unless, magically, they've already begun working on it. That would either mean the Osaka team's started on it after all, or Versus is getting closer to completion. Anyway...
I doubt we'll hear anything KH3 related at all as Versus appears to be dead, I'm just hoping for an HD collection.
But at least TWEWY is at TGS, right? Sequel plz?
Out of curiosity, did we ever find out what the Mystery Game was?
Apparently that had been put on hold for KH3D's development if I remember correctly. As of now it is unknown what the game was.
So... do you think a KH3 announcement is possible? or an HD collection?
My opinion is that they won't announce KH3. I can see an HD collection, but honestly KH announcements have always been unexpected to me. xD
My opinion is that they won't announce KH3. I can see an HD collection, but honestly KH announcements have always been unexpected to me. xD
Im just surprised Versus is not done yet i remember last it was entering full production it should have been done this year. but no they have to work on FFXIII-3 and FFXIV and other games that nobody cares about
Im just surprised Versus is not done yet i remember last it was entering full production it should have been done this year. but no they have to work on FFXIII-3 and FFXIV and other games that nobody cares about
Production Department 3 (PD3) is the one working on FFXIV, which actually looks fantastic and is probably one of the more hyped games by fans after they started the 2.0 rebuild, A Realm Reborn. It's not for everybody, though, but there are plenty of people genuinely interested. Look at XI. It was highly successful. XIV, despite the bumps along the way, will probably end up the same way because of just how amazing it is turning out.
PD1 is the department that is working on Versus and LRFFXIII, though I doubt LRFFXIII has or will hinder the developments of Versus. Nomura and the people working on Versus seem to be striving for perfection, so I am not surprised it is taking so long for them to make the game.
Production Department 3 (PD3) is the one working on FFXIV, which actually looks fantastic and is probably one of the more hyped games by fans after they started the 2.0 rebuild, A Realm Reborn. It's not for everybody, though, but there are plenty of people genuinely interested. Look at XI. It was highly successful. XIV, despite the bumps along the way, will probably end up the same way because of just how amazing it is turning out.
PD1 is the department that is working on Versus and LRFFXIII, though I doubt LRFFXIII has or will hinder the developments of Versus. Nomura and the people working on Versus seem to be striving for perfection, so I am not surprised it is taking so long for them to make the game.
Then its probably just another excuse from Square to delay Versus for another year because i found this
Final Fantasy Versus XIII to miss Tokyo Game Show - Gematsu
Final Fantasy Versus XIII Will Not Be Appearing At Tokyo Game Show | The Geek Trench
http://techdeville.com/2012/09/01/no-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-at-tokyo-game-show/
Square Enix explains why Final Fantasy Versus XIII won
Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be absent from TGS 2012 | Tech 24 Hours
(and there are many more websites that posted this. so it looks reliable)
Then its probably just another excuse from Square to delay Versus for another year because i found this
Final Fantasy Versus XIII to miss Tokyo Game Show - Gematsu
Final Fantasy Versus XIII Will Not Be Appearing At Tokyo Game Show | The Geek Trench
http://techdeville.com/2012/09/01/no-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-at-tokyo-game-show/
Square Enix explains why Final Fantasy Versus XIII won
Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be absent from TGS 2012 | Tech 24 Hours
(and there are many more websites that posted this. so it looks reliable)
Well whether its an excuse or not to delay it for another year, the fact remains that it isn't ready for a release. I get it, we all want Versus, its been announced 6yrs ago, and yet they only started full production last year(?). The thing is, Nomura and the team working on it, and they want it to be the best game it can be. Its simple really, would you like an amazing game that would be released in 2 yrs I guess, or would you like a horrible game, like FF14 on its first launch.
I for one am sick of waiting, but I have no other choice, getting angry or impatient won't solve anything. Well just have to hope that, when Versus is released, that its even more amazing than we have ever hope.
Then its probably just another excuse from Square to delay Versus for another year because i found this
Final Fantasy Versus XIII to miss Tokyo Game Show - Gematsu
Final Fantasy Versus XIII Will Not Be Appearing At Tokyo Game Show | The Geek Trench
http://techdeville.com/2012/09/01/no-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-at-tokyo-game-show/
Square Enix explains why Final Fantasy Versus XIII won
Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be absent from TGS 2012 | Tech 24 Hours
(and there are many more websites that posted this. so it looks reliable)
You think TWEWY is the reason why there is no Versus at TGS? Hahaha no.
Versus isn't going to be there because they don't feel like it is ready to be shown yet. When they show it, they want people to experience nostalga, a "this IS Final Fantasy" feeling.
Next year they will show it. Next year they hope people feel the nostalgia. It's just one more year until we get information. Be patient.
Well whether its an excuse or not to delay it for another year, the fact remains that it isn't ready for a release. I get it, we all want Versus, its been announced 6yrs ago, and yet they only started full production last year(?). The thing is, Nomura and the team working on it, and they want it to be the best game it can be. Its simple really, would you like an amazing game that would be released in 2 yrs I guess, or would you like a horrible game, like FF14 on its first launch.
I for one am sick of waiting, but I have no other choice, getting angry or impatient won't solve anything. Well just have to hope that, when Versus is released, that its even more amazing than we have ever hope.
You think TWEWY is the reason why there is no Versus at TGS? Hahaha no.
Versus isn't going to be there because they don't feel like it is ready to be shown yet. When they show it, they want people to experience nostalga, a "this IS Final Fantasy" feeling.
Next year they will show it. Next year they hope people feel the nostalgia. It's just one more year until we get information. Be patient.
I just want them to finish versus so that they could start making KH3. im not interested in versus xiii even if its using KH1&2's battle system. lets hope the information we get next year is a release date. that way we know its done and the KH team could start making KH3.
It's a shame that Versus won't be in TGS but at least we have other things to look forward. Next year it's gonna be a Versus year(probably). Unless SE surprises us with something. I'd like to see trailer from LRFF13 and a release date for both LRFF13 and 14.
In any case, regarding KH i'd be SUPER happy if they announce an HD collection for PS3. Lets not be so optimistic that they will say something about KH3 but then again lets be cautious about that HD collection as well.
What i don't want to hear about KH is a 3D Final Mix cause 3DS is copy-protected xD
Well thats about it from me..
It's a shame that Versus won't be in TGS but at least we have other things to look forward. Next year it's gonna be a Versus year(probably). Unless SE surprises us with something. I'd like to see trailer from LRFF13 and a release date for both LRFF13 and 14.
In any case, regarding KH i'd be SUPER happy if they announce an HD collection for PS3. Lets not be so optimistic that they will say something about KH3 but then again lets be cautious about that HD collection as well.
What i don't want to hear about KH is a 3D Final Mix cause 3DS is copy-protected xD
Well thats about it from me..
Since nomura said there is no plans for a 3DFM and that he will be releasing one game every year i think an HD collection is his best option, or maybe that "lightweight" project he talked about.
If KH keeps this "one game a year thing" that has seemingly been going on for the past few years, I expect a surprise announcement of the game at TGS. I mean, when else would they announce the game if not out of the blue on a random day online. If they want to announce it at a convention, I think TGS would be a decent time to at least drop hints about it (I think it'll be the HD collection which I'm fine with)
C'mon, TWEWY...
The most I can see for KH is maybe confirmation of a HD collection or something, but even that might be pushing it. Still, TWEWY seems pretty likely to me, but I'M NOT LETTING MYSELF GET HYPED OR ANYTHING NOPE.
You think TWEWY is the reason why there is no Versus at TGS? Hahaha no.
Versus isn't going to be there because they don't feel like it is ready to be shown yet. When they show it, they want people to experience nostalga, a "this IS Final Fantasy" feeling.
Next year they will show it. Next year they hope people feel the nostalgia. It's just one more year until we get information. Be patient.
There comes a time when you draw a line with the "be patient" response. After six years, all we have to go on is a few screens, and the last time we got information was January of almost two years ago. That line, where "be patient" is relevant has long since passed. This is an inexcusable thing that Square Enix has done.
There comes a time when you draw a line with the "be patient" response. After six years, all we have to go on is a few screens, and the last time we got information was January of almost two years ago. That line, where "be patient" is relevant has long since passed. This is an inexcusable thing that Square Enix has done.
Oh my god they haven't released a video game fans have been nagging them about because they want it to be the best it can be! They are the worst people on the diddlying planet!
Get over it. They know they screwed up showing the game before they were ready to work on it. They are diddlying human. They make mistakes. The game is being made, and you all will end up buying it despite the six years of complaining. So why even bother complaining? Go live your life because one stupid video game isn't worth the time the lot of you spend getting angry at SE over.
My opinion is that they won't announce KH3. I can see an HD collection, but honestly KH announcements have always been unexpected to me. xD
We probably are at the point in time where possibility of KH3 being announced is at the highest it's ever been. But I kind a hope they wait out on it for now, because if it is a thing yet, it's going to be a very small thing right now. I'd rather they have a good amount of things to show for the reveal.
Im just surprised Versus is not done yet i remember last it was entering full production it should have been done this year. but no they have to work on FFXIII-3 and FFXIV and other games that nobody cares about
We had articles, I think, from late 2010 that said Versus probably won't be released in 2012. I think we can safely put our hopes into a 2013 release.
Then its probably just another excuse from Square to delay Versus for another year because i found this
Final Fantasy Versus XIII to miss Tokyo Game Show - Gematsu
Final Fantasy Versus XIII Will Not Be Appearing At Tokyo Game Show | The Geek Trench
http://techdeville.com/2012/09/01/no-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-at-tokyo-game-show/
Square Enix explains why Final Fantasy Versus XIII won
Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be absent from TGS 2012 | Tech 24 Hours
(and there are many more websites that posted this. so it looks reliable)
Um, yeah. We've known this for about 3-4 days now. No need to tell me. Does it say in any of those articles LRFFXIII is holding Nomura back from working on Versus? No.
We probably are at the point in time where possibility of KH3 being announced is at the highest it's ever been. But I kind a hope they wait out on it for now, because if it is a thing yet, it's going to be a very small thing right now. I'd rather they have a good amount of things to show for the reveal.
I'd also like for them to wait to announce it. I'd rather know about the game's existence when it is somewhere near half way complete than just going into development.
We are close to KH3, but I don't think we are that close.
Um, yeah. We've known this for about 3-4 days now. No need to tell me. Does it say in any of those articles LRFFXIII is holding Nomura back from working on Versus? No.
I'd also like for them to wait to announce it. I'd rather know about the game's existence when it is somewhere near half way complete than just going into development.
We are close to KH3, but I don't think we are that close.
Well if the games not halfway complete after 6 years in all honesty they might as well cancel it.
I mean i understand those defending Square but you guys have to completly understand those who argue against you.
The game has been in some phases for atleast 7 years (First shown 6 years ago) I know of no game outside of DNF (Horrible game) that has been in production for this long.
Now im willing to be patient, but the question is for how much longer? 1 year, 2, maybe 5 idk.
Sad thing is I was in 7th Grade when it was revealed and now Im in college.
Also I hate Square's TGS lineup unless something is shown not on the list.
Tomb Raider im fine with but ill never play any of those other games.
Im one of the many who would like to see more info on FF10HD, KHHDC, LRFF13, and FFFV13.
Im sorry if it hurts your feelings but SE is not what it once was, as much as it pains me to say, and they need to get there prioritys strait.
Now again I respect anybody's opinion but I also ask you to repect mine, okay nevermind idc haha.
Well if the games not halfway complete after 6 years in all honesty they might as well cancel it.
I mean i understand those defending Square but you guys have to completly understand those who argue against you.
The game has been in some phases for atleast 7 years (First shown 6 years ago) I know of no game outside of DNF (Horrible game) that has been in production for this long.
Now im willing to be patient, but the question is for how much longer? 1 year, 2, maybe 5 idk.
Sad thing is I was in 7th Grade when it was revealed and now Im in college.
Also I hate Square's TGS lineup unless something is shown not on the list.
Tomb Raider im fine with but ill never play any of those other games.
Im one of the many who would like to see more info on FF10HD, KHHDC, LRFF13, and FFFV13.
Im sorry if it hurts your feelings but SE is not what it once was, as much as it pains me to say, and they need to get there prioritys strait.
Now again I respect anybody's opinion but I also ask you to repect mine, okay nevermind idc haha.
Completly understandable and reasonable. Square should have never announced this game so early, now should they have told us that the work on it is blcking any production on KH3. Now this game is proably gonna make or break square enix if it isnt, mind blowing slap me silly spectacular. If by some miracle it came out in 2013 then we will proably have KH3 by the time we graduate college
Well if the games not halfway complete after 6 years in all honesty they might as well cancel it.
I mean i understand those defending Square but you guys have to completly understand those who argue against you.
And trust me, we do. But those who are arguing against us and are completely misinformed are another story.
There comes a time when you draw a line with the "be patient" response. After six years, all we have to go on is a few screens, and the last time we got information was January of almost two years ago. That line, where "be patient" is relevant has long since passed. This is an inexcusable thing that Square Enix has done.
Guess what? The game is being shown next year. I think "Be patient" is even more relevant now than it has been in the past.
Oh my god they haven't released a video game fans have been nagging them about because they want it to be the best it can be! They are the worst people on the diddlying planet!
Get over it. They know they screwed up showing the game before they were ready to work on it. They are diddlying human. They make mistakes. The game is being made, and you all will end up buying it despite the six years of complaining. So why even bother complaining? Go live your life because one stupid video game isn't worth the time the lot of you spend getting angry at SE over.
Oooh, Ethy isn't happy D:
Well if the games not halfway complete after 6 years in all honesty they might as well cancel it.
The game is still going strong. It's not going to be cancelled.
| The game has been in some phases for atleast 7 years (First shown 6 years ago) I know of no game outside of DNF (Horrible game) that has been in production for this long. |
It entered full production last year. It has the Lumnious lighting to make it look realistic. It will be shown next year and thereafter once LR and XIV is released. Versus time IS coming.
Well if the games not halfway complete after 6 years in all honesty they might as well cancel it.
I mean i understand those defending Square but you guys have to completly understand those who argue against you.
The game has been in some phases for atleast 7 years (First shown 6 years ago) I know of no game outside of DNF (Horrible game) that has been in production for this long.
Now im willing to be patient, but the question is for how much longer? 1 year, 2, maybe 5 idk.
Sad thing is I was in 7th Grade when it was revealed and now Im in college.
Also I hate Square's TGS lineup unless something is shown not on the list.
Tomb Raider im fine with but ill never play any of those other games.
Im one of the many who would like to see more info on FF10HD, KHHDC, LRFF13, and FFFV13.
Im sorry if it hurts your feelings but SE is not what it once was, as much as it pains me to say, and they need to get there prioritys strait.
Now again I respect anybody's opinion but I also ask you to repect mine, okay nevermind idc haha.
You have a point, but I think SQUENIX is fully aware of the mistake they've made announcing the game that early (6 years ago). Plus what if Versus's game play mechanics become a staple for new FF titles? In that sense Versus would have taken too long to finish in an attempt to sorta kinda save/perfect the FF franchise, and from there FF games will be produced faster due to SQUENIX being already familiar with the entirely new game play, environments, atmosphere..etc.
Btw, has SQUENIX ever announced anything that wasn't on it's lineup for TGS?
Well I'm going to try to be positive about TGS. I'm sure Square is working as hard as they can to do what's best. So what ever they do show I'm sure it will be fine.
Well Hashimoto did say look forward to Versus next year, but I'm not sure if he meant that it's going to release next year or we're just going to be hearing a lot more about it next year.
I honestly dunno if we're going to see anything KH related. Nomura did say one KH game a year, but with a game like KH3 he might have to break his word. The next KH game will probably be on an ios system, so that game might be announced but I doubt anything big.
Only thing I'm sure of seeing is the TWEWY sequel.
IF Square were really awesome, and wanted to keep that "one game a year" thing alive, they could announce the HD Collection at TGS for a release of sometime next year, then at TGS 2013 they could announce/tease KH3 for a LATE 2014 release. (wishful thinking lol)
We probably are at the point in time where possibility of KH3 being announced is at the highest it's ever been. But I kind a hope they wait out on it for now, because if it is a thing yet, it's going to be a very small thing right now. I'd rather they have a good amount of things to show for the reveal.
I think SE will have realized the mistake they made by announcing FFVXIII too early and I doubt Nomura will want to have KH3 follow in its footsteps, especially since I think KH3 will carry more hype upon announcement than FFVXIII did.
Well if the games not halfway complete after 6 years in all honesty they might as well cancel it.
As people have said, it went into full production not long ago, so I highly doubt that they would cancel it 6 years down the line right after starting to go into full production mode. If they were going to cancel it, it would have been cancelled at least a year ago.
Well Hashimoto did say look forward to Versus next year, but I'm not sure if he meant that it's going to release next year or we're just going to be hearing a lot more about it next year.
The next KH game will probably be on an ios system, so that game might be announced but I doubt anything big.
I think Hashimoto phrased it that way to be safe, because lord knows if he said that Versus was coming next year and it ended up coming out January 1, 2014, the SE building will burn down in flames the morning of ;_; This way, if they aren't 100% ready to release the product, they can sure as hell show off a whole bunch of it next year when it is pretty much 98% done.
Also, I don't think the next KH game will be iOS actually...I'm thinking that it will probably be the HD collection. I know Nomura expressed interest in iOS systems, but I kind of think he was hinting at TWEWY Solo Remix...once again, I'm not Nomura, but that is just my hunch ^__^
Now again I respect anybody's opinion but I also ask you to repect mine, okay nevermind idc haha.
The thing is, I'm pretty sure no one denies that SE made a terrible mistake announcing Versus so early. I'm pretty certain even SE knows that they made a terrible move there but the past cannot be undone, right?
I'm sure everyone wants to have this game in their hands right now but obviously, they want to take their time with making this game and I think they're making the right decision there. Fans would rage if they produced a mediocre game after all this waiting.
Like everybody said, forget this game, live your life and eventually, you'll be able to play this game and hopefully enjoy it. Nagging about it won't make it release any faster. We all know it's been a long time (not talking directly to you though, just stating my thoughts).
Anyway, let's not make this a Versus thread. I hope we'll get a KH HD collection announcement. I don't think it will happen but I reaaaally hope this will be coming our way sooner or later this year/next year. Maybe they'll announce something that's not on the line-up? Who knows!
I hope we'll be seeing more from Lightning Returns as well (not sure if it's on the line-up or not, really can't find my way on that Japanese site). Unlike many people, I enjoyed the FF XIII games quite a bit and can't wait to see what they have in store for us with this game. It sounds like a total different game so can't wait to see more!
Tomb Raider looks also very interesting.
I love reading all those angry SE comments around the internet. The general opinion seems to be that Square-Enix are extraordinarily ignorant and misunderstand everything we say. Also, these same people tend to agree that they know exactly what to do and if anything, they should be in charge themselves.
How cute :3
*clicks on Emperor's Saga* A lot of iOS flying around this year.
Personally, not too hyped about the roster. I look forward to more info about the PS3 version of XIV, but Bravely Default is my only must buy. I hope there'll be some surprises~
Anyword on FFX HD? or is that not going to be revealed until later?
Yeah, that's really anybody's guess.
8.31.12 - Gamespot - "No comment" on X's progress.
I am really hoping that Square comes to their senses and shows a KH HD Collection at TGS
Nowadays Square Enix just does the opposite of what people want and what makes the most sense >_>
Nowadays Square Enix just does the opposite of what people want and what makes the most sense >_>
I really can't tell if you are joking or not lol xP Hinting at KH3 in DDD and giving us a secret ending at the end of TWEWY to a possible sequel/prequel is doing the opposite of what people want. I can understand the Lightning Returns thing as a lot of people did not want that game (I want it though), but continuing to work on Versus now that it is in full production to release it hopefully next year sounds like something people would want, IDK <_<
I really can't tell if you are joking or not lol xP Hinting at KH3 in DDD and giving us a secret ending at the end of TWEWY to a possible sequel/prequel is doing the opposite of what people want. I can understand the Lightning Returns thing as a lot of people did not want that game (I want it though), but continuing to work on Versus now that it is in full production to release it hopefully next year sounds like something people would want, IDK <_<
1. KH HD Collection, hasn't happened.
2. FFX HD (I can't stand the game but its popular) announced and no info
3. Square flat out REFUSES to let us know anything about Versus XIII
4. Square wants to focus on FFXIII-3 and FFXIV instead of Versus right now (this is disgusting... XIII-3 was only just announced a few days ago, compared to the almost 7 years wait we have had for Versus, okay though Square, focus on this game).
5. Crisis Core still not on PSN
6. Birth by Sleep still not on PSN
Numerous other examples.
1. KH HD Collection, hasn't happened.
2. FFX HD (I can't stand the game but its popular) announced and no info
3. Square flat out REFUSES to let us know anything about Versus XIII
4. Square wants to focus on FFXIII-3 and FFXIV instead of Versus right now (this is disgusting... XIII-3 was only just announced a few days ago, compared to the almost 7 years wait we have had for Versus, okay though Square, focus on this game).
5. Crisis Core still not on PSN
6. Birth by Sleep still not on PSN
Numerous other examples.
(each number corresponds with the number above, makes it less confusing):
1. KH3D just got released (to really positive acclaim), so I don't even know why people would expect an HD announcement or KH3 announcement in a little more than a month after 3D's release.
2-4. Final Fantasy X HD wasn't announced too long ago. I'm not talking about KH or any of their other franchises, but in terms of FF alone, SE is juggling FFXHD, FFVXIII, LRFFXIII, and FFXIV. I understand the FFVXIII comment since I can't help but agree there, but they have a lot right now to talk about, they are going to have to choose which ones to focus on. If you think about it, if they talked about FFXHD and FFVXIII now instead of LRFFXIII and FFXIV, when those two games were talked about years down the road, would anyone care, or would they just kick those games to the curb and play FFVXIII and FFXHD instead? Nobody knows, but SE is probably basing its decisions on what to focus on in what is more popular.
5. Crisis Core going on PSN would just get pirated even easier than it already is so SE would make next to no money from that (I'm not sure what they've said about it though since I don't keep up with Crisis Core).
6. SE isn't the sole owner of KH, and although we still don't know the definite reason for BbS not being on PSN, it may not be SE's fault. If Disney says no, SE can't do it, no matter what.
Well if the games not halfway complete after 6 years in all honesty they might as well cancel it.
I mean i understand those defending Square but you guys have to completly understand those who argue against you.
The game has been in some phases for atleast 7 years (First shown 6 years ago) I know of no game outside of DNF (Horrible game) that has been in production for this long.
Now im willing to be patient, but the question is for how much longer? 1 year, 2, maybe 5 idk.
Sad thing is I was in 7th Grade when it was revealed and now Im in college.
Also I hate Square's TGS lineup unless something is shown not on the list.
Tomb Raider im fine with but ill never play any of those other games.
Im one of the many who would like to see more info on FF10HD, KHHDC, LRFF13, and FFFV13.
Im sorry if it hurts your feelings but SE is not what it once was, as much as it pains me to say, and they need to get there prioritys strait.
Now again I respect anybody's opinion but I also ask you to repect mine, okay nevermind idc haha.
yeah, but if every product that's been to hell for half a decade and took more than 3-4 years to produce, all of the best games, movies, books, and tv shows that we know and love wouldnt exist. Lord of the Rings took Tolkien about 14 years to write. They may be long books. but it's still a long time. JK Rowling wrote the 4th Harry Potter book in an extremely short period-only about a year, give or take-and she's been vocal about the stress she was under because it was the biggest of those books.
Disney's Tangled was far from the first attempt they made at Rapunzel. Same with Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid(which was much darker when Walt worked on it in the 40s) and the upcoming Frozen(Snow Queen). While Tangled is a little too much like a PC version of the 90s movies, it's still a good film and took roughly a decade to make and it could've been done in half that time. Lady and the Tramp also took a long time.
As for TV, lemme see................got nothing. anyone?
Point is, Versus could be the most AMAZING game ever. Or it could be another Star Wars Prequel(those were sitting on the shelf a long time), but let's think the former until further notice.
Cool lineup but what was the point of posting here when there's no mention of Kingdom Hearts being at the event? lol (especially considering that there's a Square Enix section elsewhere on the site)
Cool lineup but what was the point of posting here when there's no mention of Kingdom Hearts being at the event? lol (especially considering that there's a Square Enix section elsewhere on the site)
Because we cover TWEWY and that's going to be at this event :|
Cool lineup but what was the point of posting here when there's no mention of Kingdom Hearts being at the event? lol (especially considering that there's a Square Enix section elsewhere on the site)
Next person who asks that gets a lovely infraction. We've said it like ten times already. We are covering TWEWY news, SE section is ignored, FoKH is used.
Next person who asks that gets a lovely infraction. We've said it like ten times already. We are covering TWEWY news, SE section is ignored, FoKH is used.
I don't do any forum stuff so I don't know how hard it is, but is it possible to change this section to say the Future of KH and TWEWY for the time being? Or would that take a lot of work to change a whole part of the forum?
I believe that is only done by the admins, but I will put that word into the big guys, thank you Kupo.
Even though we still dont have FFV13 dont forget we always have the beauty of SOMNUS haha
IMO Square Enix will either make or break themselves in the next 2-3 years.
I also feel like SE should move back to being that RPG powerhouse and release a Chrono 3, FFV13, KH3, maybe pick up some dead franchises that fans desperattly want to see again like Suikoden and Legends of Dragoon.
This of coarse is just an Idea (FAR FETCHED at that) but if they did this theyd be a respected company again as we remember them as, but I honestly dont think its can even possibly happen...
I think that Highly Enhanced graphics killed the classic RPG.
Despite of that I really liked FF10, 12, and 13 and no matter what Ill be there with Square ha
I don't think trying to revive the glory of the past is the best path to take, nor does it make them a respected company. We wouldn't get games like TWEWY or FFXIV if all they did was attempt to revive dead franchises so you could relive those days.
maybe pick up some dead franchises that fans desperattly want to see again like Suikoden and Legends of Dragoon.
Isn't the reason they're dead because there wasn't that many fans who bought the games or something?
Even though we still dont have FFV13 dont forget we always have the beauty of SOMNUS haha
IMO Square Enix will either make or break themselves in the next 2-3 years.
I also feel like SE should move back to being that RPG powerhouse and release a Chrono 3, FFV13, KH3, maybe pick up some dead franchises that fans desperattly want to see again like Suikoden and Legends of Dragoon.
This of coarse is just an Idea (FAR FETCHED at that) but if they did this theyd be a respected company again as we remember them as, but I honestly dont think its can even possibly happen...
I think that Highly Enhanced graphics killed the classic RPG.
Despite of that I really liked FF10, 12, and 13 and no matter what Ill be there with Square ha
I would say differently. You're argument could easily go back to PS1 era, where then-classic RPG was dying. Meanwhile, the only crime next-gen graphics is doing is removing visual creativity in favor of lifelike visuals that just so happen to be fantasy. this has the double-edged sword of showing the limitations of the systems more easily than say FFXIII *AND* creating unfair expectations as to how all games should look. Example: Idiots who think the Simpsons game has bad graphics. Do you really see the show looking that much different?
Isn't the reason they're dead because there wasn't that many fans who bought the games or something?
Legends of Dragoon has a cult following and there fans want that game to be remade there like a littely less annoying fan who complains about FF7 not being remade yet.
Suikoden was actually pretty big so Im not sure why they stopped making those games I think most fans were disappointed by the fourth game though
Also my definiton of a classic RPG would be games like FF1-9 and Chrono Cross. Though Discs can know hold more information the graphics take allot of that space up not allowing for long games like those previoussly mentioned games that werent souly dependent on graphics. So thats what I meant by there no longer being classic RPG's anymore to me. Many other ofcoarse would disagree with me though. Im not sure if this post entirelly gets my point across so if your confused Ill gladly try to explain it more thoroughly(Thats spelled wrong haha) just ask.
Legends of Dragoon has a cult following and there fans want that game to be remade there like a littely less annoying fan who complains about FF7 not being remade yet.
Suikoden was actually pretty big so Im not sure why they stopped making those games I think most fans were disappointed by the fourth game though
Also my definiton of a classic RPG would be games like FF1-9 and Chrono Cross. Though Discs can know hold more information the graphics take allot of that space up not allowing for long games like those previoussly mentioned games that werent souly dependent on graphics. So thats what I meant by there no longer being classic RPG's anymore to me. Many other ofcoarse would disagree with me though. Im not sure if this post entirelly gets my point across so if your confused Ill gladly try to explain it more thoroughly(Thats spelled wrong haha) just ask.
I'm with you on this one, but the problem is we're having the wrong perception of fan demands. You go on the internet and see people like us demanding for them to return to their roots and revive dead franchises, and it seems like there's a huge demand for it since you see so much of it on the internet. The problem is that the actual majority of gamers couldn't care less about anything reminiscent of classic rpgs. They don't like turn-based battling or the medieval settings that the old Final Fantasies used to take place in. They're not really voicing their opinions the way we are, so it's hard to notice, but if Square did make a Chrono 3, or if Final Fantasy XV were to be something similar to what Final Fantasy IX was, those games would have a cult following, but it wouldn't be an economical decision for SE. It really sucks, but that's just the reality of it.
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I'm with you on this one, but the problem is we're having the wrong perception of fan demands. You go on the internet and see people like us demanding for them to return to their roots and revive dead franchises, and it seems like there's a huge demand for it since you see so much of it on the internet. The problem is that the actual majority of gamers couldn't care less about anything reminiscent of classic rpgs. They don't like turn-based battling or the medieval settings that the old Final Fantasies used to take place in. They're not really voicing their opinions the way we are, so it's hard to notice, but if Square did make a Chrono 3, or if Final Fantasy XV were to be something similar to what Final Fantasy IX was, those games would have a cult following, but it wouldn't be an economical decision for SE. It really sucks, but that's just the reality of it.
Of all the posters to not make nostalgia-infested posts, his name happens to be..well..Nostalgia.
In all fairness, I did say at the beginning that I agree with the idea of SE going back to its roots. I'd be happy if games just improved their graphics and technical features over time and left the gameplay mechanics intact, but I also realize that the general consensus is that games need to keep reinventing themselves over time in order to maintain interest for most people.
I think a happy medium is that a particular series should remain true to what it always has been, but new IPs should be the innovative ones. The actual developers wouldn't like that approach because it would involve more work for them and it wouldn't necessarily be more profitable. It's a lot easier for SE to make a 3rd FFXIII game than it is to start from the ground up and do something entirely new in lieu of it.
To avoid sounding contradictory to my first point with the second one, what I mean is that I'm not satisfied with what the FF series has become over the last few years, and for all the innovative changes they've made to that formula, I think they could've started a new RPG series to utilize those while keeping FF XI, XII, and XIII within more familiar styles of gameplay and story-telling. But again, it creates more work for them, so it's easy to understand why that's not an option. It' s a lot easier to market a new FF game that draws people in with the recognized name and keeps them interested with the fancy new features than it is to start from scratch.
Well that's what we have games like Final Fantasy Dimensions and The 4 Heroes of Light for.
And for the numbered series to stop being innovative and default to doing safe things is pretty much what will kill it.
Yeah, you do have to understand that the mentality that brought FF10 and onward is the same that brought FF1, that is the desire to innovate. I'm kind of right along your track here Nostalgia, I also don't really like a lot of the newer FF games, but I realize that's a matter of personal preference in that I like games focusing on exploration, rather than an objective flaw with the product. I think the worst decision square can make in the long run is replace a hypothetical FF 15 with "Re:FF7".
I don't really get some earlier posts(they're in the FF section) that stated that 13-2 and 13-3 are avoiding new ideas when they've already brought changes into 13-2 and are going to bring even more into 13-3. FF13-2 changed more from FF13 than X-2 did from X imo, and ff13-3 is trying even bigger changes.
A little off-track but I think this is one of the good qualities that both Blizzard and Square share, Blizzard will never go open Vanilla servers for WoW, and Square, hopefully, will never resort to diverting resources just to remaking old games.
I also feel like SE should […] maybe pick up some dead franchises that fans desperattly want to see again like Suikoden and Legends of Dragoon.
what
Even though we still dont have FFV13 dont forget we always have the beauty of SOMNUS haha
IMO Square Enix will either make or break themselves in the next 2-3 years.
I also feel like SE should move back to being that RPG powerhouse and release a Chrono 3, FFV13, KH3, maybe pick up some dead franchises that fans desperattly want to see again like Suikoden and Legends of Dragoon.
This of coarse is just an Idea (FAR FETCHED at that) but if they did this theyd be a respected company again as we remember them as, but I honestly dont think its can even possibly happen...
I think that Highly Enhanced graphics killed the classic RPG.
Despite of that I really liked FF10, 12, and 13 and no matter what Ill be there with Square ha
I feel it relevant to point out that Legend of Dragoon and Suikoden are not Square-Enix properties (they're a sony and konami game franchise, respectively). Take your complaints up with them if you miss them.
There was another Suikoden game "Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki" for PSP rather recently, but Konami isn't localizing it.
As far as Legend of the Dragoon goes, a remake would be nice because they might be able to remake it into a good game!
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September 3, 2012 @ 03:16 amOffline