Union X: The 5th leader, Strelitzia (English subs)
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- Published on August 10, 2017 @ 08:05 am
- Written by Sign
KINGDOM HEARTS Union X Japan updated today with 15 new story quests, covering the player's trip to the beach with their friends and introduces the long-awaited 5th Union leader, Strelitzia!
Edit: Thanks to goldpanner, translations for these scenes are now available, as well as subtitled videos!
(An ordinary day in Daybreak Town, Keyblade wielders move about in the Fountain Plaza)
???: I've got this favourite spot--
(High above the others, sitting on the rooftop is a girl with Chirithy.)
Strelitzia: I'm Strelitzia.
This is my spot. Mine alone.
I've spent my days these past two years defeating creatures from the dark and protecting light.
I've met a lot of people, and said goodbye to a lot of people.
My party members have been replaced over and over, too.
I didn't have many teammates or friends who'd been with me since the start.
(Flashback to the Player waiting for Ephemera in the Fountain Plaza, as Strelitzia crosses paths and watches in the background)
But, I do have a "friend" who I've shared the time with since way back.
I first saw them at the fountain plaza.
You looked as though you'd been waiting for someone for a long time.
I went on my mission, and you were still there waiting or whatever you were doing by the time I got back.
In the end they never came. You picked up your Chirithy, and tears welled up in your eyes.
(Flashbacks to the Player’s adventures throughout the worlds, again with Strelitzia watching in the background.
Ever since that, I'd come across you every now and then.
I think I'd probably actually seen you before that too, but after I saw you at the fountain plaza that time I began to be aware of you whenever you were around me.
So many times I saw you and thought of striking up a conversation, but in the end I was never brave enough.
Back then, everyone was just going about their days as usual, not sensing that anything was wrong.
But it seemed like you were seeing something different to everyone else - you looked somewhat special.
You don't know me, but I felt like we were friends.
I always hoped we'd get to talk someday.
(Strelitzia walks alone in Daybreak Town, when she is stopped by a voice calling out.)
???: Strelitzia.
(She turns around to see Lady Ava and approaches her.)
Strelitzia: Lady Ava.
Ava: You are a Dandelion, right?
(She nods.)
Ava: I know this is sudden, but there's something I'd like to ask of you.
Strelitzia: Huh? Me?
(Ava presents her with a book.)
Ava: Please stay calm and listen while I tell you this. Soon, this world will--
(You and your friends arrive at the beach! You’re pretty distracted and seem to forget why you came there in the first place.)
Pink: All right, let's have fun!!
(Bandana shouts to get everyone’s attention.)
Bandana: Hey!!
Pink: My bad. The mission comes first, right.
Afro: Let's get it done ASAP!
Mog: Is playing around really all the two of you can think of, kupo?
Bandana: Now, I'm going to explain the mission, okay?
(You clear the mission)
Bandana: Great job! Mission complete.
Afro: Which means~?
Bandana: Yeah, let's go play at the beach. The Operation has commenced!
(You all rejoice.)
Pink: Yaaaay! All right, let's get changed!
(Everyone changes into their swimwear and get ready to play.)
Afro: First!!
Pink: Aw, no fair!
Mog: Wait, kupo!
(The three of them suddenly stop running. A lone Keyblade wielder, also in swimwear, approaches them and lets out a sigh.)
Keyblade Wielder: Looks like you guys came here with the same thought as I did…
But, unfortunately, swimming is prohibited.
(They’re shocked.)
Afro: What!?
Pink: Why!?
Mog: Kupo!?
Bandana: Did something happen?
(You and Bandana make your way over.)
Keyblade Wielder: A dangerous monster appeared in the ocean.
And even my friends...
(Shock and disbelief.)
Keyblade Wielder: Anyway. You guys had better head back as soon as possible.
(He leaves.)
Afro: ...Oh well. Let's go home.
(You all start to walk away, except for Bandana who remains firmly in place.)
Bandana: Are you really all okay with that?
With all our strength combined, we've overcome everything that came our way.
This is the same.
A mission has just begun!
(The rest of you look at each other and agree.)
(You gather at the shore where Pink is.)Bandana: Did you figure something out?
Pink: No.
(Pink steps into the water.)
Pink: Was there really a monster?
Mog: Agh, don't go in, kupo!
(You spot something in the distance and try to get everyone’s attention, but they don’t notice.)
Pink: Seems fine to me!
(You keep trying to get everyone’s attention as the thing in the distance approaches. It’s a dark fin, and it’s coming fast!)
Afro: Look out!
(The monster leaps out of the water as you all quickly move out of the way.)
Pink: There it is!
(You join together and prepare to fight.)
Bandana: Be on your guard, everyone!
(You all nod.)
(Now that the monster has been defeated, you’re free to play without a care in the world. Sunset comes, and you return to the boat to go home. Chirithy watches from the lighthouse.)Chirithy: All right, let's go back to the usual spot.
(Chirithy disappears.)
COMMENTS
Re: Union X: The 5th leader, Strelitzia
She has quite the cute design for sure.
Here I am crossing my fingers that she'll get eventually rather close with Skuld. A true girls-only friendship is what this whole series is awfully lacking so far. ^__^
Ava and Invi may count as a starter, yea, but still.
@Muke: I think you're mixing up two cutscenes here, the scene with the shadowy Foreteller watching from atop a roof (which was actually Invi) was involving Mickey if I recall correctly.
Since I am at work and thus can't have sound on and all is in japanese I don't wanna jump to conclusions, but honestly from the visuals alone it looks almost as if Strelitzia is stalking the Player Avatar ?!? Wut?
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While I agree that she is a pure cinnamon role how come we didn't get this sort of introduction for Blaine? Not that i'm complaining or anything just strange. But enough about that I just love her design it's very unique and it's nice to see a female character with long hair. And her pigtails!
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She has quite the cute design for sure.
Here I am crossing my fingers that she'll get eventually rather close with Skuld. A true girls-only friendship is what this whole series is awfully lacking so far. ^__^
Ava and Invi may count as a starter, yea, but still.
@Muke: I think you're mixing up two cutscenes here, the scene with the shadowy Foreteller watching from atop a roof (which was actually Invi) was involving Mickey if I recall correctly.
Since I am at work and thus can't have sound on and all is in japanese I don't wanna jump to conclusions, but honestly from the visuals alone it looks almost as if Strelitzia is stalking the Player Avatar ?!? Wut?
Not necessarily stalking, I think in the beginning they just randomly were in the same places, etc. while both were doing Quests? And then Strelitzia got attached to the player and then just really wanted to see player and all, started following us, etc.
It is kinda creepy to think about it though. xD
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Oh she looks cool.
Wouldn't mind seeing her in KH3 just to see how her 3D model would look.
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While I agree that she is a pure cinnamon role how come we didn't get this sort of introduction for Blaine? Not that i'm complaining or anything just strange. But enough about that I just love her design it's very unique and it's nice to see a female character with long hair. And her pigtails!
Strictly spoken Ventus didn't get any sort of extra introduction showing was he was doing during Browser-Chi as well, so Strelitzia is actually the only one to get this, but I dare to theorize this having somewhat to do with her "fixation" on the Player Avatar.
Not necessarily stalking, I think in the beginning they just randomly were in the same places, etc. while both were doing Quests? And then Strelitzia got attached to the player and then just really wanted to see player and all, started following us, etc.
It is kinda creepy to think about it though. xD
I didn't mean to imply any ill intents here lol, but as you say it can come overas pretty creepy when thinking about what is essentially done there.
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Strictly spoken Ventus didn't get any sort of extra introduction showing was he was doing during Browser-Chi as well, so Strelitzia is actually the only one to get this, but I dare to theorize this having somewhat to do with her "fixation" on the Player Avatar.
Oh. I assumed we didn't get anything on him was because we already knew about him but that's a good point. Still a bit suspicious that we got nothing on Blaine though.
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Oh. I assumed we didn't get anything on him was because we already knew about him but that's a good point. Still a bit suspicious that we got nothing on Blaine though.
In all honesty, what we "know" about Ventus all relates to his BBS-self meaning post-Xehanort crushing his heart and causing massive trauma and amnesia when creating Vanitas.
The Ventus we see during BBS is the culmination of four years worth of memories created by his training with Eraqus and bonding with Terra and Aqua.
Everything known in regards to X[chi]-Ventus so far is the small scene where he meets Ephemer and Skuld and we get a small glimpse at his personality. Literally no more than Blaine got.
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And the anime (possibly yandere) stalking trope makes its way into KH. Took us a while, but we got there.
ALSO THEY GOT TO THE BEACH! (Daybreak Town not Twilight Town confirmed, Roxas eat your heart out)
And the npcs changed into swimsuits? This is GOTY indeed!
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Not necessarily stalking, I think in the beginning they just randomly were in the same places, etc. while both were doing Quests? And then Strelitzia got attached to the player and then just really wanted to see player and all, started following us, etc.
The first time she sees Player is the day we waited for Ephemera. She got curious, and waited with us on her rooftop.
When Ephemera didn't show, she felt for us and cried with her Chirithy.
From that point, she'd run into us during missions and always want to approach, but never have the courage to do so.
I'm not 100% on whether or not she's following us.
She says "you don't know me, but you've felt like a friend to me."
Other than us, she doesn't have any friends and spends her time alone on the rooftop.
One thing, though... while her namesake can mean things like "bright future," "generosity" and "devotion to love," there's also...
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A phrase which is a little vague. Depending specifically on how you read æ°—, it can mean either "sensed/suspected love" or "put on an air of love."
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So... I don't know what that's going to mean for her character. I do smell a hint of yandere in this scenario.
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Keytotruth's Twitter has some translations up.
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Wow what a cute design! I want to see her in KH3 graphics. Pls.
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Keytotruth's Twitter has some translations up.
Wow, I was joking but if these are even just half on point stalker confirmed.
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She needs to be protected. I don't even care how or why and whether it makes sense or not, but she NEEDS TO BE IN KH3 SO I CAN ADMIRE HER MORE
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Wow, she really is a cute one. Nomura wasn't kidding. Interesting intro she had as well. Can't wait to see how this plays out. Am I the only one who is reminded of Elly from Xenogears when I see her though? I am currently playing that now, and Strelitzia's design almost immediately made me think of Elly.
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I'm happy to see that Nomura created an entirely original character. All the more happy that she's long haired. Interestingly enough, Ventus and Blaine are the only characters that haven't met the player yet. All the more interesting is the fact that both characters look like pre-existing characters (Roxas and Ienzo respectively).
She needs to be protected. I don't even care how or why and whether it makes sense or not, but she NEEDS TO BE IN KH3 SO I CAN ADMIRE HER MORE
I don't think a stalker needs protection. If anything, I want the player character to be hostile towards her because they're completely unaware of their presence this whole time.
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I don't think a stalker needs protection. If anything, I want the player character to be hostile towards her because they're completely unaware of their presence this whole time.
That'd be extremely rude. xD I mean, I get what you mean, but sHE IS SO CUTE. And she didn't really mean to stalk in a creepy way, but she needs to be protected. What a cinnamon roll
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Weird, the 5th leader kinda reminds me of my fan character in a way... meh. ( Except my character isn't really a stalker type, I'd talk more about it, but nobody cares.)
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is just me or does streltzia has the same chocker and necklace as kairi as well plus her skirt also has the same time of ruffle and pattern ish
https://twitter.com/ShioOuji_KHUX/status/895606897952382976
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is just me or does streltzia has the same chocker and necklace as kairi as well plus her skirt also has the same time of ruffle and pattern ish
https://twitter.com/ShioOuji_KHUX/status/895606897952382976
Strelitzia's necklace is purple at the end, Kairi's is yellow at the end. And… no? Her skirt doesn't have any similarities.
It's far-fetched
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Strelitzia's necklace is purple at the end, Kairi's is yellow at the end. And… no? Her skirt doesn't have any similarities.
It's far-fetched
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Well god DAMN, she's adorable. Even if it's implied that she might lowkey be a Stalker With a Crush.
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she is cute that design is simple nothing flashy almost how kairi was in the first kh game and how she was was
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true muke the necklace are different color and her skirt has differnt paern but is really say it far feced to say that kairi grandma and maybe she had another necklace and gave it to kairi
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WELL, considering even Ven is in the game it might not be as far-fetched, but still… I doubt she's connected to Kairi in any way.
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Anyways. I don't want any of the current union leaders to be connected to the main cast in any sort of way, shape, or form. Well, excluding Ventus, obviously..
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Since we went there, just yesterday I was thinking that despite all of the flaws the current storytelling might have I'm just really glad the Rebirth theory is almost completely untrue at this point and both the Foretellers and the new leaders are their own people (again, Ventus aside).
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That'd be extremely rude. xD I mean, I get what you mean, but sHE IS SO CUTE. And she didn't really mean to stalk in a creepy way, but she needs to be protected. What a cinnamon roll
Uh, and stalking someone isn't rude?
Player Avatar certainly does not magically know intentions from the get go so while being "hostile" might be overdoing it a little a more neutral or at least wary "why are you tracking/stalking me like that"-reaction might certainly be more realistic than immediate "Friede-Freude-Eierkuchen"/sugar and rainbows.
Strelitzia's necklace is purple at the end, Kairi's is yellow at the end. And… no? Her skirt doesn't have any similarities.
It's far-fetched
Eh, to be honest I don't see it either, but something I did notice during the entire year so far is that apparently there are certain parts of the fandom who now go to extreme lengths to try and shove Kairi somehow into everything new that gets revealed.
I'm also a proponent for her to get some agency and story attention of her own, but the outright fervent attempts to shove her into nearly everything new coming around I fear may eventually result in just more backlash.
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Lol would be funny to see her stalking SDG in some worlds because she wants to be friends with them. Every few worlds you'll have someone mention how they feel like someone is watching them. With us seeing her looking from the background somewhere.
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Lol would be funny to see her stalking SDG in some worlds because she wants to be friends with them. Every few worlds you'll have someone mention how they feel like someone is watching them. With us seeing her looking from the background somewhere.
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Uh, and stalking someone isn't rude?
Player Avatar certainly does not magical know intentions from the get go so while being "hostile" might be overdoing it a little a more neutral or at least wary "why are you tracking/stalking me like that"-reaction might certainly be more realistic than immediate "Friede-Freude-Eierkuchen"/sugar and rainbows.
Of course it is, I just meant that, as you said, being hostile from the get-go would be overdoing it a bit. I also don't want them to be sugar and rainbows just like that, of course I want Player to react in a (again, as you said,) "why are you tracking/stalking me like that"-way.
By the way, I absolutely don't like how she just feels shoehorned in. I get that she wasn't planned since the very beginning and all, but some kind of hints of someon following us would've been nice. I still don't really know how to exactly feel about her
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By the way, I absolutely don't like how she just feels shoehorned in. I get that she wasn't planned since the very beginning and all, but some kind of hints of someon following us would've been nice. I still don't really know how to exactly feel about her
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Player's getting stalked by a cinnamon roll.
A nice design. Girl's rocking the pigtails and the outfit is cute. Can't tell if she's wearing pants or thigh high boots, but I like it.
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Of course it is, I just meant that, as you said, being hostile from the get-go would be overdoing it a bit. I also don't want them to be sugar and rainbows just like that, of course I want Player to react in a (again, as you said,) "why are you tracking/stalking me like that"-way.
By the way, I absolutely don't like how she just feels shoehorned in. I get that she wasn't planned since the very beginning and all, but some kind of hints of someon following us would've been nice. I still don't really know how to exactly feel about her
Exactly. Although that being said, I bet if the situation would be a guy stalking a girl there wouldn't be any "how cute" squeals at all but "social justice" outrage and the guy being called a pervert or a weirdo! ;P
Someone who has the time should perhaps re-watch all the cutscenes from the original Browser-Chi or the equivalents in Unchained season 1 in order to check if there was really no foreshadowing, lolz.
So far the writing in X[chi] was rather acceptable so I hope it remains that way.
It is way too early to get a definitive feel for the character itself though as it is just like with Blaine and (partly) X-chi-Ventus. We haven't yet seen much of them beyond a single scene.
With the Foretellers, Skuld and Ephemer we at least have a bit more on the plate.
An unquestionable objective plus is in any case though that we finally get another original female character for the series' overall cast, regardless of what somewhat sketchy implications some parts of the narrative might bring around.
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here we go again. found the traitor
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She's taking a page outta Naminé's book in being weirdly stalkery towards someone, but hell if she isn't really cute.
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THE TRAITOR IS HERE FINALLY
She's taking a page outta Naminé's book in being weirdly stalkery towards someone, but hell if she isn't really cute.
I thought the same, and that's also why I'm shocked everybody is still going about her being Kairi/Kairi's Grandma and not Naminé
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THE TRAITOR IS HERE FINALLY
*scratches head*
Well, Lord Gula did quote that the Lost page states that "the one wearing the sigil" is the traitor.
anti-social kitty boy just didn't even know how the sigil actually looks like. ;P
But that cutie-pie cinnamon roll a traitor wanting to bring about the end of the universe? It somehow doesn't compute, but well, looks can be deceiving after all.
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I keep forgetting her name. XD Also, while writing it there's this weird feeling of just writing a normal word but not being sure whether it's actually a real word after some time… and then you don't even know whether you write it right or not.
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THE TRAITOR IS HERE FINALLY
I thought the same, and that's also why I'm shocked everybody is still going about her being Kairi/Kairi's Grandma and not Naminé
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She seems rather friendly. I guess she needs to act like a foil to Blaine? But, her introduction is a bit odd compared to the rest. We see her in Daybreak Town first, not the Keyblade Graveyard.
But...She is stalking our Player. Perhaps it was more out of admiration?
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I wonder if her name will stay the same in English or if they ruin it like with Ephemera :l Also I don't really get what the big deal about the "stalking" is lol she just kept running into the player and thought they were interesting and kept following around while they were doing their keyblading. Doesn't sound too bad to me, as long as she didn't follow the player into their house and creep behind the window or something.
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I wonder if her name will stay the same in English or if they ruin it like with Ephemera :l
It still bothers me that they dropped the a. I cringe every time I watch the English fountain scene in Back Cover.
Strelitzia is a pretty unwieldy name so it really wouldn't surprise me. That was one of the first things I thought when I read the English name.
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It still bothers me that they dropped the a. I cringe every time I watch the English fountain scene in Back Cover.
I forget, was it ever stated why the "a" was dropped from his name?
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She seems so sweet! I can really relate to the idea of having a friend you've never met before. Her character design is also pretty unique too. Hope we get to see a lot more of her character in the near future.
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*scratches head*
Well, Lord Gula did quote that the Lost page states that "the one wearing the sigil" is the traitor.
anti-social kitty boy just didn't even know how the sigil actually looks like. ;P
But that cutie-pie cinnamon roll a traitor wanting to bring about the end of the universe? It somehow doesn't compute, but well, looks can be deceiving after all.
They could very well pull a Kyuubei, although I don't know... usually KH has been quite straightforward with appearences.
She's the traitor, later becomes Kairi's grandma, and before little Kairi was tossed into space by Ansem SoD, Granny Strelitzia poof sparkles into her arms a la Eraqus and takes residence within her heart. When Sora releases Kairi's heart, Strelitzia separates from her and reforms in Castle Oblivion as Namine.
This is the headcanon we deserve, not the one we've got.
Same.
I forget, was it ever stated why the "a" was dropped from his name?
Wasn't it because in japanese they spell things with vowels regardless of them being actually in our alphabet or something?
Like how Palkia and Dialga are "Parukia" and "Diaruga"?
So it was always going to be "Ephemer", but in japanese it doesn't end with an "r" sound?
(I know I didn't explain myself quite clearly, I don't know how to put it)
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Oh my god she's just so cute......new cinnamon roll.
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But, why didn't we notice her earlier is my question. It one scene it looks like the Player DID notice her. But probably shrugged her off. And why is she so interested in the Player of all people? This is before the Keyblade War feat, so the Player shouldn't stand out to much. Other than the relationship with Ephemera and Skuld.
Perhaps she isn't stalking them, but they constantly run into one another. But, that scene with Aced when she is watching gives the impression that she is stalking us.
Well...At least we know why she was late to the Union Leader meeting...
Same.
I forget, was it ever stated why the "a" was dropped from his name?
I believe it was just a translation error.
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Wow she is a pretty adorable character...or she was until we got into creepy stalking territory according to the translations. I would have just left it as running into you by accident and dropped the whole "instinctively following you" thing. It did occur to me we never did actually know if the group and the traitor were being referred to was the foretellers I think we all just sort of assumed. It would be bitter irony if the traitor was Strelitzia and the group being talked about was the new foretellers. Of course I could see rather easily how she could be the traitor all she has to do is break the cardinal rule of no telling the players of the truth. And of course she has a fascination for the player character which is probably all she needs to give her reason to believe the player deserves the truth.
Though then I'd stand by that the MoM is pure evil because he would have known all along that the traitor was part of the second group.
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But, why didn't we notice her earlier is my question. It one scene it looks like the Player DID notice her. But probably shrugged her off. And why is she so interested in the Player of all people? This is before the Keyblade War feat, so the Player shouldn't stand out to much. Other than the relationship with Ephemera and Skuld.
Perhaps she isn't stalking them, but they constantly run into one another. But, that scene with Aced when she is watching gives the impression that she is stalking us.
Well...At least we know why she was late to the Union Leader meeting...
I believe it was just a translation error. [/COLOR]
I mean, we already know why she's interested in us? She noticed that we waited for someone (Ephemer) constantly and cried with us, waited with us, etc. Then we just sort of "ran into each other" the whole time, which lead to her… well, stalking us.
I would have just left it as running into you by accident and dropped the whole "instinctively following you" thing.
Also, yup, I do think she might be the traitor. The sigil is there. Tho it might be a red herring…?
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I mean, we already know why she's interested in us? She noticed that we waited for someone (Ephemer) constantly and cried with us, waited with us, etc. Then we just sort of "ran into each other" the whole time, which lead to her… well, stalking us.
Oh yeah, I forgot that the Player was alone for most of those events trying to grow stronger to reach him. But only failed because
"What about the others?"
Wait...Does that mean she could've been stalking us and saw when Dark Chirithy revealed itself to be ours?
| I agree. Also, yup, I do think she might be the traitor. The sigil is there. Tho it might be a red herring…? |
Well, it had to start from somewhere. Perhaps X is the symbol of the traitor after all? But I wonder how this would play out. Either she is so attached to the Player that she sorta triggers their memories. Or, the Player derails from the Unions and she curiously follows revealing the truth to the Dandelions by accident.
Regardless, it will be interesting on how it plays out.
However, it seems rather odd that our Player can foil the whole point of the Dandelions. Via the memories of the Keyblade War.
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What if it really is like School Days or something
"Player-kun... I saw you with Skuld... I thought we had a special bond... Now I'll end it all..."
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She looks cute
can't wait for the fan art that will obvioulsy happen:D
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She looks cute
can't wait for the fan art that will obvioulsy happen:D
Quite a few already.
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Already quite a few.
[FONT=verdana]do you like to hurt (CUTEST STALKER)[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana]https://pun-riii.tumblr.com/post/164024213045/strelitzia-khux-fa[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana]Isn't It Lovely?, Strelitzia †She’s so cute!
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[/FONT]This one is quinte on point.
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[/SPOILER]EDIT: oh wow, it didn't load it for me in ultima-demi's post for some reason. My bad.
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Quite a few already.
[FONT=verdana]do you like to hurt (CUTEST STALKER)[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana]https://pun-riii.tumblr.com/post/164024213045/strelitzia-khux-fa[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana]Isn't It Lovely?, Strelitzia †She’s so cute![/FONT]
Looks like a new fan favorite exists. I just hope she becomes friends with the Player like she wanted...
I wonder what her official art looks like now.
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Looks like a new fan favorite exists. I just hope she becomes friends with the Player like she wanted...
I wonder what her official art looks like now.
We'll probably get a new Key Art medal featuring the 5 Dandelion leaders like browser Chi got for the 3rd Anniversary last year. At the very least, I'm expecting a full version of the artwork that Nomura drew for UX's anniversary.
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Strelitzia would absolutely love Snapchat's new Map mode.
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Y'know if she appears in KH3 i can easily see her and Skuld being the most popular females..sorry Aqua.
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Hm, her design is cute and I'm glad it's another female character, but other than that, I'm not super hyped, as every bit of story related to UX is so incredibly boring because it pops in between a hundred fillers.
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Xehanort confirmed.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
here we go again
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She's taking a page outta Naminé's book in being weirdly stalkery towards someone, but hell if she isn't really cute.
I fail to see what was so stalkerish about Namine… A lot of actions that Namine did were against her will.
It still bothers me that they dropped the a. I cringe every time I watch the English fountain scene in Back Cover.
Strelitzia is a pretty unwieldy name so it really wouldn't surprise me. That was one of the first things I thought when I read the English name.
Ephemera was never the official name for the English translation to begin with. Ephemer was used in the end of X’s credit sequence.
[video=youtube;ITrA53h6AYs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITrA53h6AYs[/video]
Wow she is a pretty adorable character...or she was until we got into creepy stalking territory according to the translations. I would have just left it as running into you by accident and dropped the whole "instinctively following you" thing. It did occur to me we never did actually know if the group and the traitor were being referred to was the foretellerslike I think we all just sort of assumed. It would be bitter irony if the traitor was Strelitzia and the group being talked about was the new foretellers. Of course I could see rather easily how she could be the traitor, all she has to do is break the cardinal rule of not telling the players of the truth. And of course, she has a fascination for the player character which is probably all she needs to give her reason to believe the player deserves the truth.
Though then I'd stand by that the MoM is pure evil because he would have known all along that the traitor was part of the second group.
This quote is so impressive that I had to increase the text size for the best points. Talk about foresight, it’s all the more ironic that Master Ava never noticed the sigil’s on Strelitzia. What if Ava attacked Luxu because he stated that the real traitor was “One of your Dandelions!â€
That'd be extremely rude. xD I mean, I get what you mean, but sHE IS SO CUTE. And she didn't really mean to stalk in a creepy way, but she needs to be protected. What a cinnamon roll
Doesn't matter if she's cute nor socially awkward, she's a creep. I highly doubt you'd say that if the character was another guy. Creeps shouldn't be protected, they should be confronted.
But on a more positive note, I genuinely do like her design (somebody mentioned that she looks like Ella from Xenogears), and despite me bashing on her timid but possessive nature, I actually find the plot twist of her being the secret part of the avatar's adventure's really intriguing. Biggest question of all, how would she adapt with the extroverted Union leaders like Ephemer, Skuld and Blaine?
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Doesn't matter if she's cute nor socially awkward, she's a creep. I highly doubt you'd say that if the character was another guy. Creeps shouldn't be protected, they should be confronted.
We don't really know what her intentions were. All we know is that, she wanted to be friends with the Player most likely due to Ephemera's disappearance effecting the Player and Skuld greatly. Not to mention even Skuld ditches them. She is the only person that was near the Player, and most likely saw the whole "Dark Chirithy" thing. But yes, seeing the Player confront her in a more neutral way like:
"Why are you stalking me?"
Would be great, see how she reacts.
| But on a more positive note, I genuinely do like her design (somebody mentioned that she looks like Ella from Xenogears), and despite me bashing on her timid but possessive nature, I actually find the plot twist of her being the secret part of the avatar's adventure's really intriguing. Biggest question of all, how would she adapt with the extroverted Union leaders like Ephemer, Skuld and Blaine? |
She obviously stuck around till the end. She might even think that the Player is dead. Seeing as Ephemera and Skuld are sorta trying to "mask" them. However, if she is clever she will catch on. And the other Leaders? Ephemer is more anti-social now, because he is suffering from some sort of depression and anixety from being Leader and the mental state of the Player. I think however, she will develop a great friendship with Skuld. Like the relationship that Ava and Invi had. And if she thinks that is Player IS gone. Skuld might mention them by accident when talking about the past. And, who knows what relationship she will have with Blaine. I imagine Blaine trying to talk to her, but she either remains silent or runs away. I wonder what sort of relationship she will have with Ventus though.
So much potential for interesting stuff. What they do with that however...
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I mean, let's all be honest, there won't be any confrontation. This is KH after all. Everyone will just be friends.
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I mean, let's all be honest, there won't be any confrontation. This is KH after all. Everyone will just be friends.
Unless you are Xehanort...
They should change it up. A confrontation but in a more neutral way would be great, considering the Player's personality...Remember, they even talked back to a Foreteller!
This quote is so impressive that I had to increase the text size for the best points. Talk about foresight, it’s all the more ironic that Master Ava never noticed the sigil’s on Strelitzia. What if Ava attacked Luxu because he stated that the real traitor was “One of your Dandelions!â€
SHHHHHHHHHHH don't tell them!
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Okay, let's all talk real here, I feel like some people are really overreacting?
She's still a child. She probably doesn't even have the slightest clue that she is "stalking" someone. She did want to talk to us. She was, well, lonely. I don't even think stalking is the right word, if I'm being honest.
And, honestly? No, I wouldn't react otherwise if it had been a boy. I'd still say what I said above.
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I wouldn't dislike her being the traitor, but let us all remember that Kingdom Hearts is the saga where in BbS the main antagonist looked like an R. L. Stine villain from the start. They're not really subtle about these things.
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I wouldn't dislike her being the traitor, but let us all remember that Kingdom Hearts is the saga where in BbS the main antagonist looked like an R. L. Stine villain from the start. They're not really subtle about these things.
Hey, things could always change, right? Just look at freaking Kyubey. xD I even remember the devs of DDD discussing Madoka in the code somewhere. Don't forget the trope, "Beware the Nice Ones"
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I mean I've been thinking about what someone said "the sigil had to start somewhere". That got me thinking about Gula maybe the reason he didn't understand what the sigil was not because he was never taught, but because it hasn't come into existence yet. That is to say maybe originally the X was just a fashion choice by Strelitzia but after she betrays their group it becomes known as the symbol of a traitor, of the one who rebels against the authority laid out, of a recusant and that is when the recusant's sigil as we know it comes to be.
I like the idea the true identity of the traitor was one of Ava's dandelions that would absolutely explain why Ava is so broken at the end. She learned who the traitor was ONLY to realize it was too late, she had set the new union leaders including the traitor and sent them to a place they couldn't be reached. It fits well with Gula's comment about "we had been chasing the wrong lead all along" they were so busy looking for a traitor in their group they never bothered looking at their Union members, the players, for the traitor.
Man I hope this is the truth it's so much better if there was never a traitor among the original foretellers. Also it be interesting if the traitor was never someone who brought ruin and destruction intentionally, but rather they betrayed out of good intentions and things went south.
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Okay, let's all talk real here, I feel like some people are really overreacting?
She's still a child. She probably doesn't even have the slightest clue that she is "stalking" someone. She did want to talk to us. She was, well, lonely. I don't even think stalking is the right word, if I'm being honest.
And, honestly? No, I wouldn't react otherwise if it had been a boy. I'd still say what I said above.
Well, the United States might think differently. But, that is for a later topic.
Aren't the people in Union Cross like...14-15 years old? She most likely didn't think of it as stalking, however we don't know what her intentions are. She most likely just wanted a friend, and considering both were in similar circumstances at the time...You get the point. Even now, the Player does seemingly look lonely at times. Perhaps the two meeting would restore the Player back to how they were, and it would give them both some closure. And help with Strelitzia's shyness.
I mean I've been thinking about what someone said "the sigil had to start somewhere". That got me thinking about Gula maybe the reason he didn't understand what the sigil was not because he was never taught, but because it hasn't come into existence yet. That is to say maybe originally the X was just a fashion choice by Strelitzia but after she betrays their group it becomes known as the symbol of a traitor, of the one who rebels against the authority laid out, of a recusant and that is when the recusant's sigil as we know it comes to be.
That one quote inspired that much thought? Anyway, Gula said so himself. That he was foolish to believe in an anonymous quote. It would make since as well, Luxu wouldn't have had much time to watch the traitor.
| I like the idea the true identity of the traitor was one of Ava's dandelions that would absolutely explain why Ava is so broken at the end. She learned who the traitor was ONLY to realize it was too late, she had set the new union leaders including the traitor and sent them to a place they couldn't be reached. It fits well with Gula's comment about "we had been chasing the wrong lead all along" they were so busy looking for a traitor in their group they never bothered looking at their Union members, the players, for the traitor. |
Hmmm...This got me thinking, maybe the Player is the true Union Leader No.5. However, after declining the invitation. Ava had to find someone else to replace them, and she noticed that Strelitzia was following the Player around. And decided to entrust her with the Union Leader position. However, this is just a crackpot theory.
I wonder if Aced knew?
| Man I hope this is the truth it's so much better if there was never a traitor among the original foretellers. Also it be interesting if the traitor was never someone who brought ruin and destruction intentionally, but rather they betrayed out of good intentions and things went south. |
Such a thing would be nice to see. Maybe, after the Player derails from the Unions. The truth starts spreading about what happened. And Ephemera, Skuld, and Blaine confront her (Ventus doing his own thing.) And when they tell her that she is the traitor she says something like:
"No...No...No...That...Can't be true! I only wanted to help everyone...I wanted to help them..."
Probably something much, much sadder.
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"Intentions"? I mean, we know why she followed Player around and all… I don't get what other intentions she might have, other than just wanting to know us?
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Talk about foresight, it’s all the more ironic that Master Ava never noticed the sigil’s on Strelitzia.
From what I gathered none of the Foretellers, not even Gula who had the Lost page, actually knew what the sigil looks like.
Ava can't notice something she's not aware of having any significance.
Gula only talks about "the one bearing the sigil being the traitor", but immediately after admits that he doesn't know exactly what to make of it.
We as the audience are aware of how the sigil looks and what its significance is, but except maybe the MoM and Luxu no one in the X-era seems to be in on the knowledge.
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I mean I've been thinking about what someone said "the sigil had to start somewhere". That got me thinking about Gula maybe the reason he didn't understand what the sigil was not because he was never taught, but because it hasn't come into existence yet. That is to say maybe originally the X was just a fashion choice by Strelitzia but after she betrays their group it becomes known as the symbol of a traitor, of the one who rebels against the authority laid out, of a recusant and that is when the recusant's sigil as we know it comes to be.
I like the idea the true identity of the traitor was one of Ava's dandelions that would absolutely explain why Ava is so broken at the end. She learned who the traitor was ONLY to realize it was too late, she had set the new union leaders including the traitor and sent them to a place they couldn't be reached. It fits well with Gula's comment about "we had been chasing the wrong lead all along" they were so busy looking for a traitor in their group they never bothered looking at their Union members, the players, for the traitor.
Man I hope this is the truth it's so much better if there was never a traitor among the original foretellers. Also it be interesting if the traitor was never someone who brought ruin and destruction intentionally, but rather they betrayed out of good intentions and things went south.
Makes sense, but I'd feel rather bad for Strelitzia if that happened... and I don't often feel for people at all. :3
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"Intentions"? I mean, we know why she followed Player around and all… I don't get what other intentions she might have, other than just wanting to know us?
Trusting the player to the point where they reveal the forbidden truth of the Unchained realm. That's something clearly against the new Forteller guild, as established by Ava, Ephemer and Skuld. If Striletzia ends up telling the truth, it's all the more insulting on Ephemer and Skuld because they've both actually interacted with the player, and know them as a true friend. If this truth was to inevitably be revealed, the player would question Ephemer and Skuld's motives.
From what I gathered none of the Foretellers, not even Gula who had the Lost page, actually knew what the sigil looks like.
Ava can't notice something she's not aware of having any significance.
Gula only talks about "the one bearing the sigil being the traitor", but immediately after admits that he doesn't know exactly what to make of it.
We as the audience are aware of how the sigil looks and what its significance is, but except maybe the MoM and Luxu no one in the X-era seems to be in on the knowledge.
There's no denying that The Forteller's aren't exactly the brightest bunch, but these guys are Keyblade Masters, and Keyblade Masters are knowledgable individuals. Clearly, both Gula and Ava are aware of what the sigil is, the only reason why Gula is unable to "make sense of it" is because he hasn't seen a physical manifestation of the sigil by anybody.
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I fail to see what was so stalkerish about Namine… A lot of actions that Namine did were against her will.
She literally watched Roxas sleep during the KH2 prologue.
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Ephemera was never the official name for the English translation to begin with. Ephemer was used in the end of X’s credit sequence.
[video=youtube;ITrA53h6AYs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITrA53h6AYs[/video]
I mean I've been thinking about what someone said "the sigil had to start somewhere". That got me thinking about Gula maybe the reason he didn't understand what the sigil was not because he was never taught, but because it hasn't come into existence yet. That is to say maybe originally the X was just a fashion choice by Strelitzia but after she betrays their group it becomes known as the symbol of a traitor, of the one who rebels against the authority laid out, of a recusant and that is when the recusant's sigil as we know it comes to be.
I like the idea the true identity of the traitor was one of Ava's dandelions that would absolutely explain why Ava is so broken at the end. She learned who the traitor was ONLY to realize it was too late, she had set the new union leaders including the traitor and sent them to a place they couldn't be reached. It fits well with Gula's comment about "we had been chasing the wrong lead all along" they were so busy looking for a traitor in their group they never bothered looking at their Union members, the players, for the traitor.
Man I hope this is the truth it's so much better if there was never a traitor among the original foretellers. Also it be interesting if the traitor was never someone who brought ruin and destruction intentionally, but rather they betrayed out of good intentions and things went south.
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There's no denying that The Forteller's aren't exactly the brightest bunch, but these guys are Keyblade Masters, and Keyblade Masters are knowledgable individuals. Clearly, both Gula and Ava are aware of what the sigil is, the only reason why Gula is unable to "make sense of it" is because he hasn't seen a physical manifestation of the sigil by anybody.
Dude, no. You're sure of things that you can't be sure of. It's never been confirmed whether any of the Foretellers know what the sigil is or not. That's... not what I call "clearly". It's more like "the page only talks about 'the one who bears the sigil', but I don't know what to make of it because I don't even know what the 'sigil' is".
The sigil had to come from somewhere, and we don't know when it first 'manifested'/became an actual symbol that people are aware of.
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And now we wait several more months for another tiny story clip. LOL.
But really, the new leaders design is great, and I can't wait to see players reaction to her feelings for him/her. The beach scene was also very ironic...
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Trusting the player to the point where they reveal the forbidden truth of the Unchained realm. That's something clearly against the new Forteller guild, as established by Ava, Ephemer and Skuld. If Striletzia ends up telling the truth, it's all the more insulting on Ephemer and Skuld because they've both actually interacted with the player, and know them as a true friend. If this truth was to inevitably be revealed, the player would question Ephemer and Skuld's motives.
That would be interesting to see if done properly. The Player basically pulling a Roxas and leaving the Dandelions, as they truly aren't one. A boss fight with every single Union Leader to replicate the Keyblade Graveyard would be a nice parallel. With the most heart breaking being Ephemera and Skuld. After the Player leaves, this puts Ephemera and Skuld into basically a panic. As its revealed that Striletzia is the traitor.
| There's no denying that The Forteller's aren't exactly the brightest bunch, but these guys are Keyblade Masters, and Keyblade Masters are knowledgable individuals. Clearly, both Gula and Ava are aware of what the sigil is, the only reason why Gula is unable to "make sense of it" is because he hasn't seen a physical manifestation of the sigil by anybody. |
Neither of them knew! And, you can't exactly blame Luxu either.
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Gula clearly saw Aced making an X during his fight with Invi. If he knew about the sigil that would've set quite the alarm in his brain, mainly because he was searching the traitor.
But he already decided on that and never mentioned the sigil.
(don't tell me that attack doesn't count and it's a coincidence in a series that puts the x on names and clothes, yo.)
Hey, things could always change, right? Just look at freaking Kyubey. xD I even remember the devs of DDD discussing Madoka in the code somewhere. Don't forget the trope, "Beware the Nice Ones"
I would be down. Maybe Nomura knows that we think it's too obvious, and will actually pull it off.
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She literally watched Roxas sleep during the KH2 prologue.
That's not creepy, that's just obeying Ansem the Wise orders to keep him in watch.
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That's not creepy, that's just obeying Ansem the Wise orders to keep him in watch.
That……… doesn't make it not creepy. It's just as creepy as the Days trio watching each other sleep.
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That……… doesn't make it not creepy. It's just as creepy as the Days trio watching each other sleep.
Uhhh...I think Roxas and Xion need an adult that isn't Axel then...
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Xemnas, whispering: "I am an adult."
Seriously, Naminé was Creepy Mc Creeper during the KH II prologue.
I doubt she had specific orders about watching Roxas during his sleep, since both Riku and DiZ told her not to meddle with him personally.
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Xemnas, whispering: "I am an adult."
NO ANOTHER ADULT!
| Seriously, Naminé was Creepy Mc Creeper during the KH II prologue. I doubt she had specific orders about watching Roxas during his sleep, since both Riku and DiZ told her not to meddle with him personally. |
Well, think about it. Ventus has heart connections with Strelitzia...Ventus is within Sora...Easy, when Namine was formed. She stole the stalking traits from Strelitzia!
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That……… doesn't make it not creepy. It's just as creepy as the Days trio watching each other sleep.
Namine was doing guard duty against her will because DiZ forced her to. At face value it's creepy, with context, not so much. This Stritzelia is just outright creepy, and she's even creepier when she unveils her movies. She's pursuing out of her own free will (at least, from what the translations currently imply).
And the days trio weren't the only ones watching each other sleep. Xemnas and Saix watch Roxas sleep too.
Seriously, Naminé was Creepy Mc Creeper during the KH II prologue.
I doubt she had specific orders about watching Roxas during his sleep, since both Riku and DiZ told her not to meddle with him personally.
Pretty sure that's what guard duty is. To not meddle with the subject you're observing, but to keep an eye on them.
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Namine was doing guard duty against her will because DiZ forced her to. At face value it's creepy, with context, not so much. This Stritzelia is just outright creepy, and she's even creepier when she unveils her movies. She's pursuing out of her own free will (at least, from what the translations currently imply).
Dude, you seriously are overreacting. Strelitzia hasn't done anything wrong as of yet except for… just following us around, like the child she is. It's not like she's watching us sleep from outside the window like some creep.
It doesn't matter whether she was forced to watch him or not (she was not. she was told n
ot to meddle with Roxas personally.
), it's still creepy. She follows us and stares at us, she stops time and watches us just creepily. That's, if anything, just as creepy as you're making Strelitzia out to be.
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Dude, you seriously are overreacting. Strelitzia hasn't done anything wrong as of yet except for… just following us around, like the child she is. It's not like she's watching us sleep from outside the window like some creep.
It doesn't matter whether she was forced to watch him or not (she was not. she was told n
ot to meddle with Roxas personally.
), it's still creepy. She follows us and stares at us, she stops time and watches us just creepily. That's, if anything, just as creepy as you're making Strelitzia out to be.Comparing Namine to Stritzelia is comparing Apples to Oranges. I get it, some people interpret Namine watching over Roxas as creepy. But again, she was held against her will, because when she honestly "meddles" with Roxas, DiZ forces Riku to take care of her. Being on guard duty is not meddling, because Namine was not directly interacting with Roxas.
Stritzelia was doing all of her observations covertly to the point where the player didn't even know. As I stressed earlier, I don't hate the character, matter of fact, I'm genuinely interested in her character arc. But don't paint her as an innocent saint, she seems far from that. I'd trust Blaine over her any day, Blaine's only point of suspicion was his attire, Stritzelia's on the other hand is her personality.
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Naminé has never showed to need direct contact with the subject in order to keep tabs on them, the opposite.
And even "guard duty" seems a tad wrong... she didn't need to "guard" Roxas, Riku was there for that. She needed to work on him and again, she was able to at least feel how the operation was going without contact in both CoM and Days. Sure she needs her targets somewhere close, but even in KH II Roxas returns to Sora apparently by himself or something.
She even says she wanted to see him at least once... come on. Claiming she was allowed to watch him sleep but not to interact with him is really stretching it.
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Comparing Namine to Stritzelia is comparing Apples to Oranges. I get it, some people interpret Namine watching over Roxas as creepy. But again, she was held against her will, because when she honestly "meddles" with Roxas, DiZ forces Riku to take care of her. Being on guard duty is not meddling, because Namine was not directly interacting with Roxas.
Stritzelia was doing all of her observations covertly to the point where the player didn't even know. As I stressed earlier, I don't hate the character, matter of fact, I'm genuinely interested in her character arc. But don't paint her as an innocent saint, she seems far from that. I'd
trust Blaine over her any day, Blaine's only point of suspicion was his attire, Stritzelia's on the other hand is her personality.
She wanted to talk to us, she literally always followed us instinctively because she wanted to talk to us and become friends, but she couldn't get the courage. What's your deal with her? We don't even know a lot about her, yet you act like she did things that are far worse than what Xehanort did.
I'm not saying she is innocent either, but you are honestly overreacting. She is a goddamn child, like 12-14 years old. She doesn't even know what the hell she is doing.
Naminé has never showed to need direct contact with the subject in order to keep tabs on them, the opposite.
And even "guard duty" seems a tad wrong... she didn't need to "guard" Roxas, Riku was there for that. She needed to work on him and again, she was able to at least feel how the operation was going without contact in both CoM and Days. Sure she needs her targets somewhere close, but even in KH II Roxas returns to Sora apparently by himself or something.
She even says she wanted to see him at least once... come on. Claiming she was allowed to watch him sleep but not to interact with him is really stretching it.
^^^^
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Can people stop comparing Namine and Strelitza? Namine didn't exactly follow Roxas OR Sora. Not to the extent that Strelitza did. Strelitza followed the Player to other worlds! Namine only followed because she wanted to see Roxas, and had to follow Sora to change his memories bit by bit.
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Namine only followed because she wanted to see Roxas
And Strelitzia only followed because she wanted to see/befriend Player. See? What you said doesn't make a lot of sense
Naminé did follow Roxas. Just remember the times where she was just staring at Roxas. Strelitza didn't follow Player the whole time, mind you. They kept bumping into each other at first.
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And Strelitzia only followed because she wanted to see/befriend Player. See? What you said doesn't make a lot of sense
Naminé did follow Roxas. Just remember the times where she was just staring at Roxas. Strelitza didn't follow Player the whole time, mind you. They kept bumping into each other at first.
They all had reasons. Strelitza didn't take it to far either. She was most likely plotting out the perfect moment to talk to the Player. Or, trying to gain the courage to befriend them.
How did this go from talking about Strelitza being the traitor, to Namine stalking Roxas?
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Ephemera was never the official name for the English translation to begin with. Ephemer was used in the end of X’s credit sequence.
It's worth noting that χ[chi] ended service a little after "Ephemer" was introduced in English.
At any rate, if his name was supposed to be Ephemer, it'd be written エフェメル (efemeru). But KH has never exactly shied away from using actual words for names.
It's just a step further from them changing Lea's pronunciation.
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I like her name. It sounds like star light, but a more creative execution than Square usually does.
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If I may add my own thoughts, in real life following someone around for extended periods of time and considering them a friend before actually talking to them is easily labelled as creepy. If she were a child say, younger than 10, there would be bit less weight to it but whatever tweenage age Strelitzia is it's definitely old enough to understand that what she's doing is creepy and 'stalkerish' even if there wasn't malicious intent.
However, this isn't real life this is fiction and the actual creepiness of these actions can be ignored for the sake building a plot. We really don't know how her actions are intended to be taken for until we see more of her really. It may be meant to be interpreted as just a sad lonely girl who desperately wanted friends or perhaps a combination of both. We need more context to say for sure.
As for the recusant sigil bit- I really dig the idea of Strelitzia potentially being the traitor all along. The Xs are certainly suspicious to say the least.
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Uh... geez. I think I'm with Muke here, y'all are overreacting to this whole "stalker" thing. It seems more like she was just plain shy. Doesn't seem that different from, say, constantly crossing paths with someone at your school and kinda watching what they're up to when you do, but never having the guts to walk up and say hi.
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I think namine and strelitzia are similar not because they stalked people but because they have similar personalities. They are both introverts that seem to have a hard time socializing with other people. Strelitzia also seems to lack confidence in herself as she never approaches the player character. Namine shows the same lack of confidence as she largely lets other dictate her actions for her, at least more than other characters do. Also at the end of CoM she berates herself for even hoping that her fake memories would be worth as much as the real memories Sora have with Kairi, not exactly showing a confident person.
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Sheesh some people really want strelitzia to be Kairi's grandmother even against all odds. I just don't understand the appeal of that..especially making family relations important this late in the saga.
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Sheesh some people really want strelitzia to be Kairi's grandmother even against all odds. I just don't understand the appeal of that..especially making family relations important this late in the saga.
It's because of aizyboy's fanarts tbh. I don't get the appeal in that either, but eh, whatever. I guess people just really want to shove Kairi in everything or something and make her more important…. heh
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Uh... geez. I think I'm with Muke here, y'all are overreacting to this whole "stalker" thing. It seems more like she was just plain shy. Doesn't seem that different from, say, constantly crossing paths with someone at your school and kinda watching what they're up to when you do, but never having the guts to walk up and say hi.
Well, this example doesn't really cover you deciding to go out of your way and going in places you have no reason to just because the other person is there.
Then deciding, on your own and still without any contact with the other person, that you two are friends.
Also I think there's gotta be a time limit at how much one can watch another doing stuff from afar before it goes into creepy territory. Stretlitza watched the player waiting alone in silence until they cried, then left. She kept watching him and said (if the translations at this point are accurate enough), that it was like the two of them were friends already.
I'm SURE Kingdom Hearts isn't going to incorporate any actual creepiness in its story, but let's not chalk this up to "aww, she's just shy", because at this point she's basically Stan from Eminem's song.
"Hey Player I got one billion Nova, you dare me to grind?"
Sheesh some people really want strelitzia to be Kairi's grandmother even against all odds. I just don't understand the appeal of that..especially making family relations important this late in the saga.
But by making connections with other characters I can feel smart and everyone will admire me
Isn't it fun if every character was just another character in another time?
I swear. A common meme in the fandom is that everyone is either Xehanort or Sora, but if Kingdom Hearts was left to the fans we'd probably have only one character and a thousand clones of him.
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Hey guys! goldpanner has finished translating the new scenes! I'm at work right now so I won't be able to subtitle videos until later, but you can read everything first. OP updated btw :)
(An ordinary day in Daybreak Town, Keyblade wielders move about in the Fountain Plaza) ???: I've got this favourite spot-- (High above the others, sitting on the rooftop is a girl with Chirithy.) Strelitzia: I'm Strelitzia. This is my spot. Mine alone. I've spent my days these past two years defeating creatures from the dark and protecting light. I've met a lot of people, and said goodbye to a lot of people. My party members have been replaced over and over, too. I didn't have many teammates or friends who'd been with me since the start. (Flashback to the Player waiting for Ephemera in the Fountain Plaza, as Strelitzia crosses paths and watches in the background) But, I do have a "friend" who I've shared the time with since way back. I first saw them at the fountain plaza. You looked as though you'd been waiting for someone for a long time. I went on my mission, and you were still there waiting or whatever you were doing by the time I got back. In the end they never came. You picked up your Chirithy, and tears welled up in my eyes. (Flashbacks to the Player’s adventures throughout the worlds, again with Strelitzia watching in the background. Ever since that, I'd come across you every now and then. I think I'd probably actually seen you before that too, but after I saw you at the fountain plaza that time I began to be aware of you whenever you were around me. So many times I saw you and thought of striking up a conversation, but in the end I was never brave enough. Back then, everyone was just going about their days as usual, not sensing that anything was wrong. But it seemed like you were seeing something different to everyone else - you looked somewhat special. You don't know me, but I felt like we were friends. I always hoped we'd get to talk someday. (Strelitzia walks alone in Daybreak Town, when she is stopped by a voice calling out.) ???: Strelitzia. (She turns around to see Lady Ava and approaches her.) Strelitzia: Lady Ava. Ava: You are a Dandelion, right? (She nods.) Ava: I know this is sudden, but there's something I'd like to ask of you. Strelitzia: Huh? Me? (Ava presents her with a book.) Ava : Please stay calm and listen while I tell you this. Soon, this world will-- |
(You and your friends arrive at the beach! You’re pretty distracted and seem to forget why you came there in the first place.) Pink: All right, let's have fun!! (Bandana shouts to get everyone’s attention.) Bandana: Hey!! Pink: My bad. The mission comes first, right. Afro: Let's get it done ASAP! Mog: Is playing around really all the two of you can think of, kupo? Bandana: Now, I'm going to explain the mission, okay? (You clear the mission) Bandana: Great job! Mission complete. Afro: Which means~? Bandana: Yeah, let's go play at the beach. The Operation has commenced! (You all rejoice.) Pink: Yaaaay! All right, let's get changed! (Everyone changes into their swimwear and get ready to play.) Afro: First!! Pink: Aw, no fair! Mog: Wait, kupo! (The three of them suddenly stop running. A lone Keyblade wielder, also in swimwear, approaches them and lets out a sigh.) Keyblade Wielder: Looks like you guys came here with the same thought as I did… But, unfortunately, swimming is prohibited. (They’re shocked.) Afro: What!? Pink: Why!? Mog: Kupo!? Bandana: Did something happen? (You and Bandana make your way over.) Keyblade Wielder: A dangerous monster appeared in the ocean. And even my friends... (Shock and disbelief.) Keyblade Wielder: Anyway. You guys had better head back as soon as possible. (He leaves.) Afro: ...Oh well. Let's go home. (You all start to walk away, except for Bandana who remains firmly in place.) Bandana: Are you really all okay with that? With all our strength combined, we've overcome everything that came our way. This is the same. A mission has just begun! (The rest of you look at each other and agree.)
Bandana: Did you figure something out? Pink: No. (Pink steps into the water.) Pink: Was there really a monster? Mog: Agh, don't go in, kupo! (You spot something in the distance and try to get everyone’s attention, but they don’t notice.) Pink: Seems fine to me! (You keep trying to get everyone’s attention as the thing in the distance approaches. It’s a dark fin, and it’s coming fast!) Afro: Look out! (The monster leaps out of the water as you all quickly move out of the way.) Pink: There it is! (You join together and prepare to fight.) Bandana: Be on your guard, everyone! (You all nod.)
Chirithy: All right, let's go back to the usual spot. (Chirithy disappears.) |
Re: Union X: The 5th leader, Strelitzia
Thank you Goldpanner!!
There you go. Not a stalker at all. She never followed us. So… what do I say? Some people did in fact overreact, eh?
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Thank you Goldpanner!!
There you go. Not a stalker at all. She never followed us. So… what do I say? Some people did in fact overreact, eh?
To be fair, it did come across as stalking because we went through all those events without ever seeing her, but now it's revealed she just happens to be in all of those places at the exact same time, watching us.
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Two years? That means that everyone was only a Keyblade Wielder for two years! So, now we know that Ephemera left at the start of the second or late into the first year.
I wonder how this is going to go though, she was either talking with the Player or is talking to herself. The plot might end up somewhere good, obviously Strelitzia and Player will meet. They could potentiality develop a friendship that rivals Skuld and Ephemera. However, I must admit that they did run into each other quite a bit...
However, is the Player really going to be the connection that Ephemera, Skuld, and Strelitza have?
But, I think that Skuld and Strelitza will become close friends simply because they are the only female Union Leaders.
However, something I did note is that: It seems that the five Union Leaders were alone for the most part. We don't know enough about Blaine, but it seems likely he follows this trend.
Ephemera=Ditched his party to pursuit answers
Ventus=Was a stray, most likely was in a party but was kicked or left
Skuld=No one joined her party anymore
Blaine=???
Strelitza=She only wanted someone to stick by her since the start. As a result feels lonely.
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Stretlitza is indeed making me wonder if the Player will actually meet all the new leaders during Union.
Maybe there will be Ventus and Blaine story events that willl help making more sense out of the five's meeting at the Graveyard, like some sort of flashback storytelling.
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Two years? That means that everyone was only a Keyblade Wielder for two years! So, now we know that Ephemera left at the start of the second or late into the first year.
It's also possible she may have just been a late starter. The 2 year timeframe is probably more of a reference to the upcoming 2nd anniversary of KHUX, on September 3.
| I wonder how this is going to go though, she was either talking with the Player or is talking to herself. |
She's monologuing lol
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It's also possible she may have just been a late starter.
Well, you may be right. But it is the only accurate measure of time we have. Other than the anonymous time skips in Chi.
| The 2 year timeframe is probably more of a reference to the upcoming 2nd anniversary of KHUX, on September 3. |
That soon? I hope we get a Key Art Medal with the five Union Leaders. That deals 5 hits that relates to all five of them.
| She's monologuing lol |
Oh wow lol.
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That soon? I hope we get a Key Art Medal with the five Union Leaders. That deals 5 hits that relates to all five of them.
That wouldn't even make sense lore-wise… And we never got a Foretellers card in X, so I doubt we'll get it
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That wouldn't even make sense lore-wise… And we never got a Foretellers card in X, so I doubt we'll get it
Honestly, do any of the medals make sense at this point? We have how many medals of Ventus? And you are telling me, no one looks at the Ventus Medal and put two and two together? Medals/Cards are most likely just a gameplay mechanic, and if they are physical things. It could be the medal doesn't have art on it or anything. But is instead just a golden/purple circle thing that acts as a script for special moves.
...Or maybe the Union Leaders scrapped the medals/cards they had. Or, none of them had Ventus, but Skuld seems to have a Ventus medal or one that can do a similar move.
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Honestly, do any of the medals make sense at this point? We have how many medals of Ventus? And you are telling me, no one looks at the Ventus Medal and put two and two together? Medals/Cards are most likely just a gameplay mechanic, and if they are physical things. It could be the medal doesn't have art on it or anything. But is instead just a golden/purple circle thing that acts as a script for special moves.
I dunno, but the medals and cards are canon. The book of Prophecies is the source of Cards and Medals, which allow the Player to harness powers from the future, at least that's what I always thought was confirmed? Correct me if not.
It is just a gameplay mechanic, but if the leaders aren't even alive anymore, it wouldn't make sense
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I dunno, but the medals and cards are canon. The book of Prophecies is the source of Cards and Medals, which allow the Player to harness powers from the future, at least that's what I always thought was confirmed? Correct me if not.
It is just a gameplay mechanic, but if the leaders aren't even alive anymore, it wouldn't make sense
You are correct, they are forces from the future. However, they are only mentioned...Twice? And both by Chirithies (Chirithys?)
I think the reason we use Medals now, instead of Cards. Is because well...Those books are gone, now we are drawing power from the "Sixth Book of Prophecies" which is probably a toned down version of the normal ones. Or, it is done by Ephemera to be sure memories don't appear.
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You are correct, they are forces from the future. However, they are only mentioned...Twice? And both by Chirithies (Chirithys?)
I think the reason we use Medals now, instead of Cards. Is because well...Those books are gone, now we are drawing power from the "Sixth Book of Prophecies" which is probably a toned down version of the normal ones. Or, it is done by Ephemera to be sure memories don't appear.
Or, you know, it's only because SE wanted UX to feel fresher and not like a complete port.
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Or, you know, it's only because SE wanted UX to feel fresher and not like a complete port.
Hey, I already know about that. The whole point of my existence is to over theorize on everything.
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Thank you Goldpanner!!
There you go. Not a stalker at all. She never followed us. So… what do I say? Some people did in fact overreact, eh?
Nah, she's still a creep. The definition of stalker is "a person who follows someone with obsessive attention", so yeah, this didn't debunk anything. I get that this is a story, but don't try and romanticise or sugarcoat her activities for what they really are.
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Nah, she's still a creep. The definition of stalker is "a person who follows someone with obsessive attention", so yeah, this didn't debunk anything. I get that this is a story, but don't try and romanticise or sugarcoat her activities for what they really are.
She. never. followed. anyone. she. just. became. aware. of. us.
That's it. They kept bumping into each other and she became more aware of it. She never followed us. Not a creep. Not romanticising anything. Not sugarcoating anything.
Got it?
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She. never. followed. anyone. she. just. became. aware. of. us.
That's it. They kept bumping into each other and she became more aware of it. She never followed us. Not a creep. Not romanticising anything. Not sugarcoating anything.
Got it?
I suppose you got a point there.
However, for Stritzelia to coincidentally keep on bumping to somebody that they never really knew, and calling them a "friend" when she never really spoken to them is still creepy though. Stritzelia is one dodgy character I'm definitely keeping an eye on... and here I assumed that Blaine is as suspicious of a character as you could get.
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I suppose you got a point there.
However, for Stritzelia to coincidentally keep on bumping to somebody that they never really knew, and calling them a "friend" when she never really spoken to them is still creepy though. Stritzelia is one dodgy character I'm definitely keeping an eye on... and here I assumed that Blaine is as suspicious of a character as you could get.
There, that part I can agree on. I can get why she'd think so, but it's still strange.
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There, that part I can agree on. I can get why she'd think so, but it's still strange.
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That soon? I hope we get a Key Art Medal with the five Union Leaders. That deals 5 hits that relates to all five of them.
I don't know about a medal, but there was this in a recent Famitsu interview:
| — So, I’d like to ask you a little more about what’s coming for Kingdom Hearts Union Cross. The identity of the 4th Union Leader has been revealed but... [FONT='inherit']Nomura: I’ve already finished writing the scenario involving the 5th Union Leader and it will be releasing in the first few weeks of August. Actually, I have an illustration of them right here... (Nomura shows the interviewer the illustration) [FONT='inherit'][I]— Cute!! Nomura: [FONT='inherit'] They’re a good kid.[/FONT] [FONT='inherit'] And... hot off the press, here’s a rough sketch of the main illustration for the scenario. (Nomura shows the sketch to the interviewer)[/FONT] [FONT='inherit'][I]— Huh, the 5th leader isn’t in this sketch? Nomura: [FONT='inherit'] Nope. And with that, please pay close attention to what will unfold in the next scenario (laughs).[/FONT] |
So maybe we'll get to see that new artwork next month.
sometimes people have conncetion to someone i mean i know some alto of people like that when they see someone speaical andconsider them a friend without talking to that person
I'm sure you're just saying this to prove a point but going up to someone you haven't formally met and acting like you're friends is actually kind of creepy.
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I'm sure you're just saying this to prove a point but going up to someone you haven't formally met and acting like you're friends is actually kind of creepy.
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I suppose you got a point there.
However, for Stritzelia to coincidentally keep on bumping to somebody that they never really knew, and calling them a "friend" when she never really spoken to them is still creepy though. Stritzelia is one dodgy character I'm definitely keeping an eye on... and here I assumed that Blaine is as suspicious of a character as you could get.
I find it odd that she even calls the Player "Somewhat special" I get he/she kinda is, but this is most likely long before the Keyblade War feat. Hell, she most likely has no idea that the Player is alive. Only Ephemera and Skuld do...And she is going to the Keyblade Graveyard...This is bound to be interesting.
But, its still creepy that she says
But, I do have a "friend" who I've shared the time with me since way back.
She is abnormally fond of the Player, and this might backfire big time. Considering that Ephemera and Skuld are Union Leaders, and everyone accepts them as the best friends of the Player...I still wonder though, maybe Strelitzia is a replacement Union Leader? But, that is for another day.
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Cool. So Strelitzia really is like me. I actually had my own moment back in high school now that I think about it, of seeing someone in my AP computer science class that I had wanted to be friends with, but didn't have the bravery to talk with and befriend them. We actually met several times: one in which he actually complimented me in recreating the code for this pong adaptation, and numerous times when our school would have LAN parties at night, but I never went through with befriending him in the end. So I can definitely empathize with Strelitzia on this. It's kinda odd though, even though I was always an introvert, I'd always somehow at least make one friend... even though I lost contact with all of them. Not sure what happened here. XD I suppose there is also one other person in this world that I also want to meet and befriend... but meh. XD
I'll probably ignore the beach cutscene sub for now... I want to experience that one for myself in global.
By the way, Sign, just wanted to thank you for always subbing the KHx and Ux cutscenes!
I do have to admit though… I'm not a fan of that Heartless design. :/ i know we had one that's similar already and this is like an 'evolution', but it just looks like a Large Body is wearing a shark costume. xD I can't take it serious
yikes. while KH3 seems to be making strides in retaining that Disney charm, it looks like union x is falling deeper and deeper down the cliche anime rabbit hole
By the way, Sign, just wanted to thank you for always subbing the KHx and Ux cutscenes!
I do have to admit though… I'm not a fan of that Heartless design. :/ i know we had one that's similar already and this is like an 'evolution', but it just looks like a Large Body is wearing a shark costume. xD I can't take it serious
Don't worry, he just lost a bet. It was quite tragic really...Wait, who is making the costumes? Does a fashion heartless exist?
When I was playing and I saw that, I thought. "Maybe he forgot his sunscreen?" Maybe that is why he is wearing the suit?
Don't worry, he just lost a bet. It was quite tragic really...Wait, who is making the costumes? Does a fashion heartless exist?
When I was playing and I saw that, I thought. "Maybe he forgot his sunscreen?" Maybe that is why he is wearing the suit?
Well, that cat heartless Cinderella boss they mentioned is "fashionable" so maybe...
yikes. while KH3 seems to be making strides in retaining that Disney charm, it looks like union x is falling deeper and deeper down the cliche anime rabbit hole
I'm interested to see how Maleficent and Pete fit into all of this... Wonder if they're going to be clashing with the new Union leaders.
I'm interested to see how Maleficent and Pete fit into all of this... Wonder if they're going to be clashing with the new Union leaders.
Ventus is gone though, so they are one Union Leader short. So, they need a replacement for him or something. However, the Union Leaders can't handle Maleficent and Pete alone. Not when they most likely have Nightmares at their disposal, and they aren't that strong. We can assume they have stopped training. So far, the odds are against the Dandelions and Union Leaders. However, Ephemera who is obviously the leader. Is a smart kid, he might just out wit them. Not to mention having a Dandelion as strong as KH1 Sora.
Ventus is gone though, so they are one Union Leader short. So, they need a replacement for him or something. However, the Union Leaders can't handle Maleficent and Pete alone. Not when they most likely have Nightmares at their disposal, and they aren't that strong. We can assume they have stopped training. So far, the odds are against the Dandelions and Union Leaders. However, Ephemera who is obviously the leader. Is a smart kid, he might just out wit them. Not to mention having a Dandelion as strong as KH1 Sora.
wait what do oyu mean venus gone i dont see a sesne where ventus has left?
If we assume it is present day.
If we assume it is present day.
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I don't know about a medal, but there was this in a recent Famitsu interview:
— So, I’d like to ask you a little more about what’s coming for Kingdom Hearts Union Cross. The identity of the 4th Union Leader has been revealed but...
[FONT='inherit']Nomura: I’ve already finished writing the scenario involving the 5th Union Leader and it will be releasing in the first few weeks of August. Actually, I have an illustration of them right here... (Nomura shows the interviewer the illustration)
[/FONT]
[FONT='inherit'][I]— Cute!!
[/I][/FONT]
Nomura:
[FONT='inherit'] They’re a good kid.[/FONT]
[FONT='inherit'] And... hot off the press, here’s a rough sketch of the main illustration for the scenario. (Nomura shows the sketch to the interviewer)[/FONT]
[FONT='inherit'][I]— Huh, the 5th leader isn’t in this sketch?
Among the other revealed 4 Union Leaders are... an unknown character and someone in a black hood. Is the one in the black hood the 5th Union Leader?[/I][/FONT]
Nomura:
[FONT='inherit'] Nope. And with that, please pay close attention to what will unfold in the next scenario (laughs).[/FONT]
So maybe we'll get to see that new artwork next month.
Ok, possible translation errors not counted what I get from this part is this:
1. Nomura has a sketch called "a main illustration for the scenario" (of Union Cross I presume) and the interviewer notes the 5th leader (Strelitzia) isn't in that sketch.
2. Furthermore, the interviewer states that among the other 4 revealed Union Leaders in this sketch there is "an unknown character" (which isn't Strelitzia since Nomura showed an illustration of the 5th Leader to the interviewer beforehand) and yet another Coaty!
This may mean that we have still two unknown participants in this scenario to deal with. That "unknown" character the interviewer mentioned and the "new" Coaty.
This is of course assuming that the Coaty even IS new at all since we have many possible already existing characters who this Coaty could be as well:
- the MoM
- Luxu
- one of Team Nort
- heck, even Ansem the Wise owns a coat.
Nonetheless though it is worth to point out that the number of main particpants in the scenario in this case reaches seven:
1. Ephemer
2. Skuld
3. Ventus
4. Blaine
5. Strelitzia
6. the "Unknown character" the interviewer mentions
7. The Coaty
Another thought-shot just in the blue just for the fun of it:
Could this Coaty actually be one of the original Seekers of Darkness?
I'm thinking here about the scene the Player Avatar dreamed of in the original Chi where there were two groups of people facing each other, this one:
Although there we have nine people facing thirteen, which would mean we're still two people short.
Interesting is that in this scene, the countless dead Keyblades from the actual war are already present...just like they are now in Union Cross as well.
Unlike in the actual war from Browser Chi, it's also not raining in this situation.
I'm sure you're just saying this to prove a point but going up to someone you haven't formally met and acting like you're friends is actually kind of creepy.
Agreement.
While it doesn't exactly fit the textbook description of "stalking" per se it can still give some creepy vibes.
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Ok, possible translation errors not counted what I get from this part is this:
1. Nomura has a sketch called "a main illustration for the scenario" (of Union Cross I presume) and the interviewer notes the 5th leader (Strelitzia) isn't in that sketch.
2. Furthermore, the interviewer states that among the other 4 revealed Union Leaders in this sketch there is "an unknown character" (which isn't Strelitzia since Nomura showed an illustration of the 5th Leader to the interviewer beforehand) and yet another Coaty!
This may mean that we have still two unknown participants in this scenario to deal with. That "unknown" character the interviewer mentioned and the "new" Coaty.
This is of course assuming that the Coaty even IS new at all since we have many possible already existing characters who this Coaty could be as well:
- the MoM
- Luxu
- one of Team Nort
- heck, even Ansem the Wise owns a coat.
Nonetheless though it is worth to point out that the number of main particpants in the scenario in this case reaches seven:
1. Ephemer
2. Skuld
3. Ventus
4. Blaine
5. Strelitzia
6. the "Unknown character" the interviewer mentions
7. The Coaty
Another thought-shot just in the blue just for the fun of it:
Could this Coaty actually be one of the original Seekers of Darkness?
I'm thinking here about the scene the Player Avatar dreamed of in the original Chi where there were two groups of people facing each other, this one:
Although there we have nine people facing thirteen, which would mean we're still two people short.
Interesting is that in this scene, the countless dead Keyblades from the actual war are already present...just like they are now in Union Cross as well.
Unlike in the actual war from Browser Chi, it's also not raining in this situation.
Hmmm, wow, Sephiroth. I never really thought about any of that, it never crossed my mind… so there are again 7 people. Would you mind if I added your post to my theory and add a little bit upon it?
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Hmmm, wow, Sephiroth. I never really thought about any of that, it never crossed my mind… so there are again 7 people. Would you mind if I added your post to my theory and add a little bit upon it?
I was essentially just brain-storming, lolz, but these things are one of the two primary reasons why I still follow this clusterfuck of a story. ;P
Just now I also remembered there was a scene in the original Browser-Chi when Ephemer sneaked into the Foreteller's tower and met a Coaty...*squints eyes*
Nah, no problem, theorize away, that's what all this is for after all. :D
Re: Union X: The 5th leader, Strelitzia
Ok, possible translation errors not counted what I get from this part is this:
1. Nomura has a sketch called "a main illustration for the scenario" (of Union Cross I presume) and the interviewer notes the 5th leader (Strelitzia) isn't in that sketch.
2. Furthermore, the interviewer states that among the other 4 revealed Union Leaders in this sketch there is "an unknown character" (which isn't Strelitzia since Nomura showed an illustration of the 5th Leader to the interviewer beforehand) and yet another Coaty!
This may mean that we have still two unknown participants in this scenario to deal with. That "unknown" character the interviewer mentioned and the "new" Coaty.
This is of course assuming that the Coaty even IS new at all since we have many possible already existing characters who this Coaty could be as well:
- the MoM
- Luxu
- one of Team Nort
- heck, even Ansem the Wise owns a coat.
Nonetheless though it is worth to point out that the number of main particpants in the scenario in this case reaches seven:
1. Ephemer
2. Skuld
3. Ventus
4. Blaine
5. Strelitzia
6. the "Unknown character" the interviewer mentions
7. The Coaty
What intrigues me about this hypothetical sketch is the "unknown character". What if they were created as a silhouette? that way, it could be a subtle means of re-introducing a character we already know. Assuming it's not a completed character sketch, I personally believe that the unknown character is a young Braig. It could explain Xigbar's fascination of The Keyblade War, and his line in Re:Coded in which he says "Whatever, I've got my own plans!".
Gee, I never gave attention to the number of dark silhouettes in that scene you pointed out, Sephiroth. Keyblades already being there, means that it's gotta be something after a war, note, not necessarily the war, because after THE war (original one) the Player met Skuld and Ephemer and started all over, no silhouettes present, just keyblade wielders everywhere. But since there are 9 people there... Going by the tale, when the Keyblade War happened, the -known one- (the one over Lux being the forgotten one, as I too believe there were two wars), the X-Blade appeared, either summoned or automatically to defend Kingdom Hearts... It says that by the end of it the X-Blade split into 13 pieces of darkness and 7 of light. What if those pieces where each a human and it's them we see as silhouettes there? The fallen Player hints at the war being near its ending, when the blade is supposed to split. And, when experimenting for the X-Blade in BBS, Xehanort considered him a piece of light and Vanitas a piece of darkness, call it heart of pure light/darkness, theoretically the same thing. But, on Light's side, there are 2 more people, they might be two survivors of the war, either 2 of the union leaders who somehow got KH and the legendary X-Blade into this, assuming the union leaders sided with the Light, or those could be just two ... watchers, taking sides to keep appearances, as would the Master of Masters and Luxu do, if their true intentions shouldn't be touched by anyone's suspicion.
I'm interested to see how Maleficent and Pete fit into all of this... Wonder if they're going to be clashing with the new Union leaders.
That scene when Maleficent mentions Sora just after the Player and Chirithy decide to avoid going into the thorn forest, darn it really. I am also curious what they are doing there and how is Maleficent conscious of Sora in the Dandelion's Dream World if it is set way before BBS timeline. Anyway Maleficent and Pete talked about the Book of Prophecies in Recoded too but back then I had no idea that would connect them to all of the Chi plot, with its depth and dark tone and all.
With there now being talk in this thread, about there maybe having been two Keyblade Wars in the Chi era(?)--something I wholeheartedly agree on--I just thought I'd mention that in DDD's secret ending, Yen Sid says Keyblade Wars plural. "In the Keyblade Wars of yore..." (Go to 1:27:48 of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOXclc2kJVs, and you guys can see for yourselves).
Granted, he might be talking about the one in BbS... but I really doubt it: Especially since I hardly think that fight at all counts as a war, as so few people were involved with it.
With there now being talk in this thread, about there maybe having been two Keyblade Wars in the Chi era(?)--something I wholeheartedly agree on--I just thought I'd mention that in DDD's secret ending, Yen Sid says Keyblade Wars plural. "In the Keyblade Wars of yore..." (Go to 1:27:48 of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOXclc2kJVs, and you guys can see for yourselves).
Granted, he might be talking about the one in BbS... but I really doubt it: Especially since I hardly think that fight at all counts as a war, as so few people were involved with it.
Thank you for pointing that out!! I'm adding it to my theory now xD
No problem, Muke. Happy to be of service!
And I've gotta say that I'm really curious about your theory now. Be sure to tell me when you have it up, please:)
No problem, Muke. Happy to be of service!
And I've gotta say that I'm really curious about your theory now. Be sure to tell me when you have it up, please:)
Oh, I already posted it! Here you go :D
https://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-unchained/214706-history-will-repeat-itself-2nd-keyblade-war-theory.html
Muke
August 10, 2017 @ 08:27 amOffline