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That'd be epic. Imagine, this whole time you were getting your butt reamed by a memory. I'd love to see what moves the "real" sephiroth can do. I was also thinking of some of the other FF. Like IX and X. Maybe even XII even though I don't think it was as popular as some in the series.
 
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I think Nomrua wants everyone to think that its all about Terra and Ven, and Aqua's just a witness to what's happening to them. But, I bet anything that something's going on with her that's just as important. He wouldn't have made her a main protagonist with her own scenario if she didn't have an important role. She's the most mysterious character to us right now, and I think Nomura wants it that way at the moment. It could be possible that her story is even more important than Terra or Ven's.
 

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That'd be epic. Imagine, this whole time you were getting your butt reamed by a memory. I'd love to see what moves the "real" sephiroth can do. I was also thinking of some of the other FF. Like IX and X. Maybe even XII even though I don't think it was as popular as some in the series.

Grabranth and Basch I think would fit good with Kuja and Seymour I have a feelin they ruin Jecht like yuna, paine, and Rikku(why faries?) I think sephrioths spot is set now in the KH universe since he's clouds darkside theirs still the turks though since axel is gone.
 

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Axel was never Reno's nobody, Nomora just based him off of there. But, yeah Jecht probably would be spoiled in KH.
I was thinking about Kuja too! And are you talking about the FFVIII seymour or the FFXII seymour?
 

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Axel was never Reno's nobody, Nomora just based him off of there. But, yeah Jecht probably would be spoiled in KH.
I was thinking about Kuja too! And are you talking about the FFVIII seymour or the FFXII seymour?

I know he's not his Nobody but it be odd if they were running around at the same time in the story and he technically be Reno's nobody because Reno favorite drink is ale.
and I meant FFX seymour and maybe Vayne but I think he's a stretch

I think Nomrua wants everyone to think that its all about Terra and Ven, and Aqua's just a witness to what's happening to them. But, I bet anything that something's going on with her that's just as important. He wouldn't have made her a main protagonist with her own scenario if she didn't have an important role. She's the most mysterious character to us right now, and I think Nomura wants it that way at the moment. It could be possible that her story is even more important than Terra or Ven's.

I think she be the one that has the view of the whole story of BBS and what exactly happen and finishing any loose ends up of the other two characters stories
 

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i always wondered in kh2 since sora had a nobody and wasn't whole what did being whole with roxas really do for sora. he didn't change, neither did his fighting skills. maybe roxas in the mature side of sora from kingdom hearts 1 and since he lose it thats why he was so brainless and stuff. maybe.
 

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that Roxas allowed Sora to dual weild without his drive form

and xion

and it confusing exactly what Sora recieved since the game isn't specific on Roxas or Namine
 
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spoiler tag didn't work. ^.^'

Anyway, roxas did help sora to dual wield but in gameplay you needed to go into drive. Perhaps this problem can be fixed at one point...
 

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roxas has so much more skill than sora. sora only won the battle because he can summon his keyblade to his hand and roxas couldn't. I guess thats one skill he had that roxas didn't.
 

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Well, I hope none if you get mad at me, because reading from somel of these posts, I have discovered something on my own.
I have a big doubt that she did died. Why? When Xemnas was talking to Aqua's armor & calling it friend, Xigbar, who was listening to Xemnas converstation, said that he heard a voice talkint back to Xemnas. I think that Aqua's soul was sealed in the armor somehow & never did suffer any death events. Actually, I see Aqua as another Paine. Aqua is a witness to what happens to the events of the keyblade war while Paine was a witness to the fall of the Crimson Blade. Yea, different game, yet both of them have witnesses something. I think Aqua will come back in KH3. I'm not sure if she will, but we don't know what happened to Aqua's armor after the defeat of Xemnas.

Also, the fight against Maleficent. I think the fight had ended in a draw. Either Aqua & Maleficent wasn't able to defeat the other, or the other was interfered by something. Maleficent getting defeated & coming back, yes, she can just use the darkness to come back, but I have a big doubt about this because she need to meet up with Pete in order to start the events of Kh2 & she needs to round up the villians in order to start the events of KH after she meets Aqua. I'm not real sure about this.

& as Aqua being important, I see her as another Paine, only because she's a witness to what's going on, is a friend of Ven & Terra, & is a keyblader herself. I bring Paine of FFX-2 for a reason because both sides in my mind are so similar. Both joined a fight agianst something, both of them has very good friends, something happened to themselves & their friend, they just disappeared after that.
 

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not even sure theres gonna be a kingdom hearts 3 nomura said bbs might be the last.
 

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STOP IT I HAVEN'T FINISHED FFX-2 YOU'RE RUINING IT USE TIDUS NEXT TIME HE WAS WITNESS AND A MAIN CHARACTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes xigbar did say that but I think Aqua beat her and sealed away her dragon form with the keyblade(only guess) since she didn't use it until she was stabbed with the heart unlocker.No one said she need to meet up Pete and just that pete might have brought her back or someone else and no one said she need to round of the villian only that she chose to because it be easier to do things or some other reasons.

not even sure theres gonna be a kingdom hearts 3 nomura said bbs might be the last.
he has said that he might have a scene of Sora getting ready but it won't be the end espically with coded which is probably KH 2.5 pretty much.
 
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There wasn't supposed to be any more KH after the first. Wait, I've said this like 3 times...
Anyway, If it ends with BBS Then at least we'll have Final Fantasies to look forward to. [i will be sad though...]
 

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STOP IT I HAVEN'T FINISH FFX-2 YOU'RE RUINING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes xigbar did say that but I think Aqua beat her and sealed away her dragon form with the keyblade(only guess) since she didn't use it until she was stabbed with the heart unlocker.No one said she need to meet up Pete and just that pete might have brought her back or someone else and no one said she need to round of the villian only that she chose to because it be easier or some other reasons.

O.O I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU DIDN'T FINISH FFX-2! :( PLEASE FORGIVE ME! Anyways, I still think that the fight ended in a draw though. Let me change that need to must. She was after Kingdom Hearts & have plans of her own even if Jafar & the others failed or not. As for Aqua, since when did she got stabbed with the heart unlocker?
 

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Final Fantasy X-2 begins as Yuna, Rikku and Paine recover Yuna's stolen Garment Grid from the Leblanc Syndicate in the first of several encounters in which they vie for spheres. The game is punctuated by a narration of Yuna addressing Tidus, as though she is recounting the events of the game to him as they occur in a style reminiscent of Tidus' own narration in Final Fantasy X. Although Yuna's quest is to find clues that may lead her to Tidus, much of the storyline of the game follows the clash of the factions that have established themselves in the time since the coming of the Eternal Calm in Final Fantasy X, and the uncovering of hidden legacies from Spira's ancient history. A significant portion of the game's events are unnecessary for the completion of the main storyline, but much of the depth of the story—including characterization and background details—are featured in the optional content,[1] which generally follows how each part of Spira is healing in the time since the passing of Sin.
As the game progresses, the hostilities between the Youth League and New Yevon build to a head. In the meantime, the Gullwings discover an ancient sphere containing images of an enormous machina weapon called "Vegnagun" that was secretly buried beneath the city of Bevelle. The weapon has enough power to threaten all of Spira,[7][8] and, moreover, it is revealed to the player that Vegnagun is unable to distinguish friend from foe once activated.[9] The Gullwings then join forces with the Leblanc Syndicate to investigate the underground areas of the city in an attempt to destroy the machine before it can be used by either side in the upcoming conflict. However, discovering a large tunnel recently dug into the floor of the weapon's chamber, they realize that Vegnagun has apparently been moved to the Farplane, located at Spira's core.
Disagreements between Spira's factions are soon punctuated further after the disappearance of Baralai, Nooj, and Gippal—the leaders of New Yevon, the Youth League and the Machine Faction respectively. Returning to the underground areas of Bevelle, the Gullwings discover the missing faction leaders discussing Vegnagun and learn that the machine's artificial intelligence allows it to detect hostility and to respond by activating itself and fleeing.[10] Additionally, it is revealed that Nooj had come to Bevelle with the intention of destroying Vegnagun previously, prompting it to flee to the Farplane.[11] The player then learns that Paine had once been friends with all three men, assigned to be their sphere recorder while they were candidates for the Crimson Squad, an elite group intended to be assigned leadership of Crusader chapters across Spira.[12]
Two years earlier in a cave beneath Mushroom Rock Road called "the Den of Woe," just before the failed Operation Mi'ihen, the squad's final exercise was conducted. Within the cave, the various squad candidates were swarmed by pyreflies and driven to kill one another. The only survivors were Paine, Baralai, Gippal, and Nooj, who were themselves targeted by the Order of Yevon afterward when they revealed having seen images of Vegnagun while in the cave. Soon after, Nooj shot his surviving comrades and left them to die, severing the friendship the group had with one another. However, at this time, it is revealed that he was not acting of his own accord when he shot them. The feelings that drove the squad members to kill one another are revealed to have been the despair of the game's antagonist, Shuyin, who died 1000 years earlier.[13] Before the four survivors could leave the cave, the spirit of Shuyin—requiring a host in order to interact with the world physically[14]—had possessed Nooj, and later forced him to shoot his comrades.[15] In the time since, Shuyin had been subtly goading Nooj on a subconscious level, coercing him to approach Vegnagun so that he could use Nooj's body to control it.[16]

A screenshot of Yuna's concert, which prompts the memories of Lenne to emerge from the Songstress dressphere.


Nooj's will was too strong for him to be completely controlled, and his desire to destroy the large machina prompted it to flee.[17] Now desiring a new host, Shuyin leaves Nooj's body and possesses Baralai's, pursuing Vegnagun to the Farplane. Nooj and Gippal follow in pursuit, asking Yuna to keep things under control on the surface. In doing so, the player must fight and defeat each of Yuna's aeons from Final Fantasy X, their spirits now corrupted by Shuyin's despair on the Farplane.[18] During this mission, Yuna falls into the Farplane and meets Shuyin, who mistakes her for a woman named "Lenne". Feeling affection toward him that is not her own and finding herself unwilling to move away from him, she listens as Shuyin describes how he "awoke" after he had died, alone and unable to find Lenne. He then expresses anger that Spira's citizens have not yet come to understand the heartache that war can cause, and reveals that he has developed a plan to use the old, but still operational Vegnagun to destroy all of Spira, ending the possibility of there ever again being a war. In so doing, he believes that he will be making the world a better place.[19]
The player learns that 1000 years before the game, Shuyin was a famous blitzball player in the high-tech metropolis of Zanarkand, and the lover of a popular songstress and summoner—Lenne. Shuyin's memory would then form Tidus in Dream Zanarkand in the events of Final Fantasy X. The two lived during Zanarkand's war with the more powerful Bevelle, and during the course of the war, Zanarkand ordered all summoners to the front lines, separating the couple. Believing that Lenne would die in battle, Shuyin decided that the only way to save her was to infiltrate Bevelle, commandeer Vegnagun, and use it to destroy Zanarkand's enemies. However, Lenne perceived Shuyin's intentions, and—unwilling to allow him to take the lives of many others for her sake—followed him.[20] When she caught up to Shuyin in Bevelle, he had only just begun to operate Vegnagun's control panel, an organ integrated into its head. Before he could use the giant cannon located in its mouth to destroy the city, Lenne asked him to stop. Shuyin did as she asked, but a group of Bevelle soldiers arrived a moment later and shot the couple. Fatally injured, Shuyin failed to hear Lenne saying that she loved him before they died.[21]
Over the course of the following 1000 years, Shuyin's despair and resentment over his failure to save Lenne bonded to pyreflies and caused him to constantly experience the anguish of that moment.[22] Over time, his despair became so powerful that it began acting on its own,[23] and he came to believe that—in addition to helping the world—he would fade away with Lenne if he destroyed Spira.
Now with an understanding of Shuyin's hatred for war, Yuna manages to return to the surface and the Gullwings organize a concert to which everyone in Spira is invited, supporters of the Youth League and New Yevon alike. Additionally, the Songstress dressphere worn by Yuna is revealed to be comprised of Lenne's memories, resulting in a sphere screen projecting them to everyone in attendance during the concert. Witnessing images of Shuyin and Lenne's last moments, Spira's citizens begin to understand the unproductive nature of their disagreements. The player then learns that it was because of Lenne's memories that Shuyin had mistaken Yuna for Lenne and she had felt affection toward him.[24]
Although the factional fighting has ceased, Shuyin has nearly carried out his plan to use Vegnagun's cannon to destroy the planet from beneath its surface. Joining forces with the Leblanc Syndicate once again, the Gullwings make their way to the Farplane and find Gippal and Nooj already battling Vegnagun. Working together, they manage to disable the giant machina before its cannon can fire at Spira. Finally confronting Shuyin, Lenne's consciousness emerges from the Songstress dressphere and convinces him to abandon his mission and be at peace. Thanking Yuna, Lenne guides Shuyin's spirit to peace on the Farplane.
Subsequently, the fayth once located in Bevelle appears before Yuna and thanks her as well. He then asks her if she would like to see "him" again. If the player replies with "Yes" and a sufficient percentage of the game's optional storyline has been completed, the fayth locates Tidus's scattered pyreflies and sends them to Besaid, where they reform; thus, when Yuna returns home, she is reunited with Tidus. Players who achieve 100% completion in addition to reviving Tidus see an additional reunion scene in Zanarkand.
 
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