there is no such thing as when you turn of a light its DARK no matter what
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hype360 said:no but seriously i dont think the dark and the light makes any sense. honestly its like basickly thinking hate creates evil creatures, i like the story and all but theats plain reatarded!! think of it as you turn off the light, is it bad no its just dark, light is never dark.
so noone can become evil on this world or universe
hype360 said:there is no such thing as when you turn of a light its DARK no matter what
DarrcEnigma said:I'm glad someone else has thoughts similar to my own. The following post may be somewhat confusing since it refers to both the real world and the world of Kingdom Hearts (And I lost my train of thought a few times.), so only read it if you're really interested in my opinion.
I don't agree. No matter what, the knife itself is neither good nor evil. It's just an instrument used by a person to commit a "good" or "evil" act against another person or thing. It's like the saying "Guns don't shoot people, people shoot people." Which I admit may not be stated the right way, but the message is carried nevertheless.
Dark and light are like the knife: They're not inherently good nor evil, they're just tools for others to use. It's the person/thing using them and the actions they're being used for that classify them as "good" or "evil." But you can take it even further than that if you want, since good and evil aren't clearly defined, and in truth are little more than perspectives. "Evil" to one person may be "good" to another, and war is a prime example of this. If you're a part of one of the countries at war, you typically believe that your country is "good" and that the opposing country or countries are "evil," correct? But the truth is, both countries are acting the same way. They condemn each other for their acts and brand each other as evil, but they're no better than the country they're attacking. Therefore if one is evil, they both must be evil. And there is no "good" in war, just as there are no heroes in war.
I don't believe you could really say that the Heartless are creatures of darkness that are evil. The "darkness" in people's hearts isn't real darkness. Instead it's a general term used to group things such as fear, greed and envy. That is the true darkness within our hearts, and that darkness is what starts fights and wars -- or in this case, what gives birth to the Heartless. The Heartless themselves can't be considered evil: They were born a certain way, with a certain task. It's by their very nature that they seek hearts and spread the darkness. Humans aren't really any different in our world. To try and survive we murder other creatures, destroy parts of the world and attack one another to try and make this world suit our every need.
Evil and darkness are usually considered one and the same because evil things tend to hide themselves within the darkness. And in turn, people fear what they can't see or understand, making them brand the darkness itself as evil. That's not the case, however, as Riku has shown us. It's more than possible to the darkness to be used for good, just as it is as equally possible for the light to be used for evil.
While it's certainly something that can't be confirmed one way or another and could be debated forever, it's still something to take into consideration. In closing, what works in the real world works in the world of Kingdom Hearts more often than not. You might have to look at it in a slightly different way for it all to fit into place, but with enough thought, it typically fits.
surge345 said:You are absulutly right dark and light do not belong to either good or evil they belong to whomever has the power to control them.
hype360 said:no but seriously i dont think the dark and the light makes any sense. honestly its like basickly thinking hate creates evil creatures, i like the story and all but theats plain reatarded!! think of it as you turn off the light, is it bad no its just dark, light is never dark.
so noone can become evil on this world or universe
knightwalker said:Do you remember in Kh1 Sora said that theres always a little bit of light in darkness? A light that can never go out.
monkey_boy said:2) darkness is only corrupted light.
DarrcEnigma said:Darkness isn't really "corrupted" light -- corrupted light would be along the lines of holding out a thin, red piece of plastic and casting a red shadow with it. The plastic would still allow the light to pass through, however it would alter the light's original color and brightness, hence "corrupting" it. (Another example are those colored light bulbs you can find in party stores and the like.)
Darkness is more the "absence" of light, since darkness only appears where the light can't directly shine.