Princesses of Nobodies

[White_Feather]

have any of u wondered what happened when the princesses of heart lost their hearts?
that means they have nobodies since they were strong-hearted people who lost their hearts
and dont say they dont have nobodies becuz Kairi has a nobody and she was also in absence of her heart in the same way
so....where are they? did Org. XIII do something to them?
what r your thoughts?

 

[TheMuffinMan]

They do not have Nobodies because they're BOdies were never taken to the Twilight Realm.

Namine was not created when Kairi lost her heart, because her body remained in the regular realm. However, Kairi's heart was inside of Sora's, when when Sora stabbed himself with the Heart Unlocker, he released both of thier hearts, thus creating 2 Nobody

Namine was created from the Body of Sora, and the Heart of Kairi. If your Body is never sent to the Twilight Realm, then a Nobody is not made. Since all of the Princess of Heart's bodies were sustained by Meleficent, there was no chance for a Nobody to be created

 

[OmegaRaptor]

They do not have Nobodies because they're BOdies were never taken to the Twilight Realm.

Namine was not created when Kairi lost her heart, because her body remained in the regular realm. However, Kairi's heart was inside of Sora's, when when Sora stabbed himself with the Heart Unlocker, he released both of thier hearts, thus creating 2 Nobody

Namine was created from the Body of Sora, and the Heart of Kairi. If your Body is never sent to the Twilight Realm, then a Nobody is not made. Since all of the Princess of Heart's bodies were sustained by Meleficent, there was no chance for a Nobody to be created

wait now im confused. how is namine made from soras body and kairis heart when nobodies dont have hearts and roxas had soras body?

 

[Khaston]

Because kairi's hearts was inside Sora when he lost his heart, so it was born partially of him.

 

[White_Feather]

They do not have Nobodies because they're BOdies were never taken to the Twilight Realm.

Namine was not created when Kairi lost her heart, because her body remained in the regular realm. However, Kairi's heart was inside of Sora's, when when Sora stabbed himself with the Heart Unlocker, he released both of thier hearts, thus creating 2 Nobody

Namine was created from the Body of Sora, and the Heart of Kairi. If your Body is never sent to the Twilight Realm, then a Nobody is not made. Since all of the Princess of Heart's bodies were sustained by Meleficent, there was no chance for a Nobody to be created

does that really make sense to YOU?
All the bodies of the princesses(including Kairi) didnt go to any "realm"
in case u forgot, maleficent had Kairi's body all along although she was just motionless
but what i also dont get is if Kairi lost her heart, why didn't her body fade?
doesnt that happen when someone loses their heart?

 

[TheMuffinMan]

does that really make sense to YOU?
All the bodies of the princesses(including Kairi) didnt go to any "realm"
in case u forgot, maleficent had Kairi's body all along although she was just motionless
but what i also dont get is if Kairi lost her heart, why didn't her body fade?
doesnt that happen when someone loses their heart?

lol, looks like someone never read the Ansem Reports.

A Nobody is created when someone of a Strong Heart gets turned into a Heartless. The Heartless takes the Heart, or the Heart is lost, and then the person is turned into a Heartless. When the person turns into a Heartless, they're body is sent to the Twilight Realm where it becomes a Nobody, or shell of it's former self

Kairi's heart was pure, being that she was a Princess of Heart, so it was impossible for her to become a Heartless. So her Heart took refuge within Sora's, and her Body remained in the regular realm, and was found and held by Meleficent

In order to re-awaken Kairi, Sora used the Heart Unlocker to unlock his own Heart, thus releasing Kairi's Heart. When he did so, he became a Heartless, and his body was used as a Medium to create both Roxas and Namine.

So Namine was made when Kairi's heart left Sora, and Roxas was made when Sora's own Heart left him. When Sora became a Heartless, they were both created

Princesses of Heart have pure and untainted Hearts, so it is impossible for a Heartless to be created from them, so when they're hearts were removed, thier bodies stayed in the regular realm, so it is impossible for a Nobody to have been created

 

[var1ables]

Ansem Report 13 - Defeat The Unknown in Hollow Bastion

When the heart casts off the flesh, where does the body go?

Heart and soul are separate, and the spirit remains in the body. But can we assume that the leftover body and soul perish?

Certainly when the heart changes into a Heartless the body disappears.

However, that is only this world's story; in another world, mightn't they change forms like the Heartless and exist there?

If we take that to be the case, there must be a you other than yourself existing somewhere.

An existence neither of darkness nor of light.
An in-between existence.
Cast off by the heart, a mere shell, one who begrudges both the darkness and the light.

This mystery cannot be easily resolved.
The relationship between the heart and the flesh is a complex one.

But since we exist here, they cannot be termed as existent.
Therefore I shall call them...

"The non-existent ones."

This ansem report is weird... just weird.... i don't really want to get into right now because it'd end up with so weird stuff...

 

[Vandread]

Basically White_Feather, Kairi produced no Heartless or Nobody when she lost her heart, because it is so pure. Her heart instead stayed with Sora. When Sora lost his heart at Hollow Bastion, that created Roxas. When Kairi's heart was also released, that created Namine. The reason Namine was not created when Kairi first lost her heart is because her body remained in the normal realm, unlike Sora's did at Hollow Bastion. The same can be said for her heart. It was not lost to the darkness because it took shelter within Sora.

 

[White_Feather]

in other words, in order for a heartless and a nobody 2 b created, a heart needs leave from a body with a tiny bit of darkness?
in a way, her heart just left both her body and Sora's body, so how would HIS heart affect Kairi's ability to make a heartless/nobody?
i know these questions may be complex, but some stuff just doesnt make sense
although the only one's that sounds most reasonable is MuffinMan's explanation

 

[TheMuffinMan]

In order for a Nobody to be created, a Strong Heart must leave the Body and become a Heartless, because when you become a Heartless your body no longer exist in the normal realm, it instead goes to the Twilight Realm and becomes a Nobody

Kairi was so pure, that she was unable to produce a Heartless, so her Heart took refuge within Sora's, and her body merely remained in a comatose-like state

However, Sora was capable of producing a Heartless, so when he released both his Heart and Kairi's and became a Heartless, his Body was used to make both Namine and Roxas, which is why Namine had a connection to Sora, and was able to manipulate the memories of him and those who were connected to him

 

[var1ables]

In order for a Nobody to be created, a Strong Heart must leave the Body and become a Heartless, because when you become a Heartless your body no longer exist in the normal realm, it instead goes to the Twilight Realm and becomes a Nobody

No nessacarily, there are some things about a nobody that we still don't know. Not one place in the the ansem report does it say that a heartless has to be formed.

 

[TheMuffinMan]

When a Heartless is born the Body is lost, if a Heartless was never made then for what reason would the Body disappear to the Twilight Realm?

 

[White_Feather]

When a Heartless is born the Body is lost, if a Heartless was never made then for what reason would the Body disappear to the Twilight Realm?

simply because a heart was taken without the means of darkness?

 

[var1ables]

if a Heartless was never made then for what reason would the Body disappear to the Twilight Realm?

What would be the reason for it not to be sen there. Everything at the moment is very vague. In one case xehanort case of his shell and didn't become a heartless till sometime after, but both xenmas and ansem were formed, the former being first. Then we have the convention nobodies, which we all know how are created. It's very strange and very weird at the moment, and nomura gives nothing either way. Ansem(kh1 and basically nomura's words) said that "this mystery cannot be easily resolved.The relationship between the heart and the flesh is a complex one," and the closest we have to understanding it is the way you say it.

Here's a scenario, What if a already twilight being loses it's heart without creating a heartless(i.e what happened to xehanort), would it's body just sort of appear?