New Artwork for Union X 2nd Anniversary!
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- Published on September 2, 2017 @ 03:02 pm
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Nomura reveals the new artwork to celebrate KINGDOM HEARTS Union X's 2nd anniversary, featuring Ephemera, Skuld, Blaine, Ventus, Lauriam, Chirithy and an unknown hooded figure!
Zephyr has translated Nomura's special message!
Happy 2nd Anniversary! Greetings everyone!
Message from the Director
It's been a while, this is Nomura.
Here and there, we've been celebrating the 2nd anniversary and we would also like to thank our fans.
From all of the staff, we thank you very much. I've tried my best illustrating as well as with the writing.
I'll explain it a bit, for the 2nd anniversary, it is bringing up the number "2".
The medal is based on the final battle from Kingdom Hearts 2 and the avatar can dress in outfits from KH2.
The characters in the main story have a long Kingdom Hearts-esque opening for their introductions and the important parts of Union Cross have finally begun. It is the latest scenario appearing in that title.
While the surprise is just the beginning, I believe Union Cross will be deeper than X[chi] and Unchained X.
I believe it is a story that will keep everyone thinking at every turn so please look forward to it.
In mid September, the main scenario will be accompanied by a large update and please look forward to it.Until then, may your heart be your guiding key.
Kingdom Hearts series
Director Tetsuya Nomura
This artwork will appear in the new title screen with Version 2.3.0, which will go live on September 14!
Source: KINGDOM HEARTS Twitter
COMMENTS
Re: New Artwork for Union X 2nd Annviersary!
It looks great..it's a shame we didn't at least get artwork for Strelitzia.
Oh wells.
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I KNEW THIS WOULD BE AT FUCKING MIDNIGHT JAPAN I SET AN ALARM FOR A REASON
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That looks absolutely epic!! Wow! Blaine is cool. Ven is cute. Ephemer is awesome. Everything is awesome.
I love it!! Also, the girl in the hood seems to have black or brown hair, just something I wanted to point out.
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That looks absolutely epic!! Wow! Blaine is cool. Ven is cute. Ephemer is awesome. Everything is awesome.
I love it!! Also, the girl in the hood seems to have black or brown hair, just something I wanted to point out.
She might, but that part of her heard was also drawn in shadow so it might be a blonde colour.
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^ Truue.
Does someone know what type of flower the girl is holding in her hand?
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I'm guessing Nomura got jealous of someone perfectly replicating his style for the recent Lauriam and Blaine artwork that popped up.
I think that's his best drawing of Skuld yet.
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hooded girl got to be steltiza noobody the first nobody to be sperfice
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I wonder if she is Ava or Strelitzia
and I feel the pet will have some story behind it
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hooded girl got to be steltiza noobody the first nobody to be sperfice
I mean, no, not necessarily? Nobodies don't automatically have that black coat on
I wonder if she is Ava or Strelitzia
I highly doubt it's Ava
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I mean, no, not necessarily? Nobodies don't automatically have that black coat on
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If it's actually Strelitzia she must have stole the coat or someone gave one to her.
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^ Truue.
Does someone know what type of flower the girl is holding in her hand?
Spock found that it's Clerodendrum thomsoniaem, can also be known as "Bleeding Heart Vine"
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i know but this person is hiding her identy because she knows something though or the truth
That's jumping to conclusions imo. I mean, it's a possibility, but who knows? Maybe she somehow got there via a Dark Corridor and that's why she has a coat on? Not saying that's how it is, just giving examples
Spock found that it's Clerodendrum thomsoniaem, can also be known as "Bleeding Heart Vine"
Okaay, thanks!
I guess it's safe to say Ephemera is technically the protagonist
Also, Blaine's face reveal and pose are making me less convinced that he's Strelitzia's killer... damn.
I'm thrilled to see that Pet's take up another slot in our medal wheel, since it shows "0/7".
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Spock found that it's Clerodendrum thomsoniaem, can also be known as "Bleeding Heart Vine"
Honestly do you guys find it more appealing for this cloaked character to be a new character or Strelitzia?
Wanted to share this since I thought it was neat, haha. Probably no significance
The flower's name is "Schicksalsbaum" in German, which rouughly translates to "destiny tree" or "tree of destiny"
Other than that, this is what I could find:
| This eye catching flower carries meanings like: Expressing your emotions openly A deep and passionate love between two people Spurned or rejected love, especially in the Eastern cultures where the flower originated Being too sensitive or emotionally reactive to the world around you Feeling compassion and unconditional love for everything in creation A connection that goes beyond life and death The Bleeding Heart is one of the most literal flowers used symbolically today. The blooms resemble a classical cartoon heart with drops of blood falling out of it. Japanese folklore also has a tale about a spurned prince who killed himself by sword when a lovely maiden rejected his gifts, which are all represented by different petals from the flower. In American and British culture, the Bleeding Heart has a passionate meaning and is often exchanged as a symbol of true love. Some religious groups choose to plant the flower as a reminder of compassion for the suffering of others. It can represent people who share their emotions freely and wear their heart on their sleeve too. |
Honestly do you guys find it more appealing for this cloaked character to be a new character or Strelitzia?
I guess it's safe to say Ephemera is technically the protagonist
Also, Blaine's face reveal and pose are making me less convinced that he's Strelitzia's killer... damn.
I wish this Blaine was the one we got in-game who we all unanimously disliked even though he did nothing wrong xD
Maybe dumb question, but how do we know the hooded figure is female?
Maybe dumb question, but how do we know the hooded figure is female?
it could be both stealliza but new like in her nobody
Assuming it's her. I wonder if she'll get a new look.
Getting her revengeance probably gonna change her..no more nice cinnamon bun for us.
So, uhm, I'm back at it again with rendering.
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Now onto the characters individually. Woooo... xD
She's female because she has boobs and is wearing an oversized cloak lol
BTW this is the image I was looking at for the flower. The curious thing is the ones Hooded probs-Strelitzia haven't fully bloomed.
Assuming it's her. I wonder if she'll get a new look.
Getting her revengeance probably gonna change her..no more nice cinnamon bun for us.
the hooded figure has a femine face and has a femine shape
Ehhhhh. I mean, considering the style here...and we're not even seeing the whole face. Also that's a pretty large coat, so it's hard to tell for sure about shape.
Ehhhhh. I mean, considering the style here...and we're not even seeing the whole face. Also that's a pretty large coat, so it's hard to tell for sure about shape.
For what it's worth, in the Famitsu interview where Nomura showed a Strelitzia sketch and this to the interviewer, when the interviewer noticed Strelitzia wasn't in the artwork and asked if it was the person in the black hood, Nomura denied it.
Though there are ways to get around that with "from a certain point of view" stuff.
Ehhhhh. I mean, considering the style here...and we're not even seeing the whole face. Also that's a pretty large coat, so it's hard to tell for sure about shape.
Real talk though, the boobs are a big giveaway.
Me to the hooded lady because I'm prepared for some dumb plot shit to happen now: what's up Larxene, how you been girl?
For what it's worth, in the Famitsu interview where Nomura showed a Strelitzia sketch and this to the interviewer, when the interviewer noticed Strelitzia wasn't in the artwork and asked if it was the person in the black hood, Nomura denied it.
Though there are ways to get around that with "from a certain point of view" stuff.
Wow...that Skuld. She's rocking!
Real talk though, the boobs are a big giveaway.
I'm not sure if "big" is the right word. The chest is slightly raised at best, which could mean breasts, but also the entire coat is baggy and unfitted I wouldn't put much stake in it.
The hand seems masculine to me, but the face profile is effeminate.
We'll just have to wait and see.
Me to the hooded lady because I'm prepared for some dumb plot shit to happen now: what's up Larxene, how you been girl?
The nose is similar. And it'd certainly explain their cooperation later.
bleeding heart color meaing Most blooms are bright pink or red for a romantic quality. The rarer white Bleeding Heart is considered a symbol of purity and innocence instead, especially to represent beautiful young women who died in a tragic way.
I'm not sure if "big" is the right word. The chest is slightly raised at best, which could mean breasts, but also the entire coat is baggy and unfitted I wouldn't put much stake in it.
The hand seems masculine to me, but the face profile is effeminate.
We'll just have to wait and see.
I think that the fact that the coat is oversized and there is still an upraised portion of the chest is a big giveaway that it is a girl lol
Unless you think a slender guy could make an ill-fitting coat upraise in the chest area with their pectoral muscles.
yeah coaty is a girl plus her right next to laurim proablly the person that killed steltizia inderated that her nobody
So is Blaine's hair now black?
I think that the fact that the coat is oversized and there is still an upraised portion of the chest is a big giveaway that it is a girl lol
Unless you think a slender guy could make an ill-fitting coat upraise in the chest area with their pectoral muscles.
You never know with Nomura
I think the hooded figure is a female. As for it being Strelitizia, we can only play guessing games and conjecture. Would be extremely interesting, but either way, another story surprise?
So is Blaine's hair now black?
It's more like a dark violet-ish color
yeah coaty is a girl plus her right next to laurim proablly the person that killed steltizia inderated that her nobody
Tim, please stop spamming your Nobody theory every time somebody makes a new post in this thread.
So is Blaine's hair now black?
His hair has always been dark, but it definitely helps that we don't have to rely on dinky in-game screenshots anymore xD
My gosh Blaine has the most beautiful gray eyes..wait are they gray they seem gray maybe silver like. Man the UX timeline sure love them vests. It looks like Ven is holding something, a package of some sort.
My gosh Blaine has the most beautiful gray eyes..wait are they gray they seem gray maybe silver like. Man the UX timeline sure love them vests. It looks like Ven is holding something, a package of some sort.
Tim, please stop spamming your Nobody theory every time somebody makes a new post in this thread.
The nose is similar. And it'd certainly explain their cooperation later.
Blaine looks fine af here. Also, hoping the hooded figure could be Eraqus and Xehanorts master, but I really dont think that will ever be the case. It would be real awesome if it was the Player tho.
O~M~G~ Blaaaaine! Buddy! Pal!
Hello Mr. Tall-Dark-and-Handsome!
*ahem* well this aside! He has the looks of a good-hearted character, honestly, his clear blue-grey eyes make it seems like that, and he's suddenly looks less sassy and more of a cute guy! I didn't expect this xD
who ever she or he is thing are getting intreing and intense
It's more like a dark violet-ish color
Almost, but it could still be black, but the sketch style makes it seem more like dark violet.
His hair has always been dark, but it definitely helps that we don't have to rely on dinky in-game screenshots anymore xD
Haha, yeah. In-game it looks grayish. But in the artwork, it looks more darker.
I think I'm in love with Blaine. God damn it. I hated him and now I just want to learn more about him and his hair and that earring.
He also has the same style as Sora and Riku in their KH3 clothes (+ Lann from WoFF) so now I can't even try to think that he is evil now.
I think I'm in love with Blaine. God damn it. I hated him and now I just want to learn more about him and his hair and that earring.
Hopefully they'll now actually be giving us worthwhile plot.
The earring reminds me so much or Luxord's earring but that's no doubt because both of them use the cross/T design:
I think I'm in love with Blaine. God damn it. I hated him and now I just want to learn more about him and his hair and that earring.
He also has the same style as Sora and Riku in their KH3 clothes (+ Lann from WoFF) so now I can't even try to think that he is evil now.
Saame. I like Blaine's design! So glad we finally got artwork of him.
the only thing i hope they explain is wehre is the x-blade
Looks like everyone loves Blaine now, his art is nice.
So what's the flowers in the figure's hand?
Such pretty art! Nomura just keeps getting better and better. Amazing. Everyone looks great. I mean Ephemera's arms are kinda super long there but hey, better reach swinging a keyblade around. Marly boy looking as pretty as ever too. Blaine looks nothing like I imagined, still don't like him but at least he doesn't look like some weird goth DeviantArt OC. I really want the hooded girl to be Strelitzia. No more new characters, there's so so soooo much to do with the existing ones let's just chill for a bit with the new kids okay Nomura xD
Why does Blaine look so pretty. I mean I was expecting him to look moody and you know Ienzo/Zexion like but he just looks so cheerful and bright almost putting Ventus to shame.
To be honest I kiiind of want it to be either Strelitzia or an entirely new character - nothing in between. Not every character has to bear some connections to previously existing ones
What if the flower black coat is holding is meant to represent Strelitzia since she wasn't able to make it to the group photo
I don't even mind Blaine appearing in KH3 now lol.
To be honest I kiiind of want it to be either Strelitzia or an entirely new character - nothing in between. Not every character has to bear some connections to previously existing ones
What if the flower black coat is holding is meant to represent Strelitzia since she wasn't able to make it to the group photo
Well this is a surprise! Also surprised by the Blaine face reveal. Didn't think his face would actually be shown (there goes my "Blaine is Minamimoto" theory. XD)
Also, Lauriam is holding a dandelion. Marly is MoM confirmed~
Jokes aside, that teasing teaser teased a new character. Whether she is Strelitzia or not, the symbolism of the bleeding heart vine has my interest. But if they are Stretzy then how? She went poof yo. But is Kingdom Hearts, so she could have gotten better. XD And of course they could be Larxene, because sure why not.
crazy theroy what if blaine is xehanort true name and he changed it xehanort once he found the book and went full darkness like how he chaned into ansem
Glad plenty of us are on the same page that Skuld is looking as great as ever, and Blaine looks so much better with a face lol. I do dig that earring lol. And yea, I mean tbh I had backed away from the Blaine could be the traitor thing already for a few reasons, but even more so he does look like a chill guy now ha.
Well this is a surprise! Also surprised by the Blaine face reveal. Didn't think his face would actually be shown (there goes my "Blaine is Minamimoto" theory. XD)
Also, Lauriam is holding a dandelion. Marly is MoM confirmed~
Jokes aside, that teasing teaser teased a new character. Whether she is Strelitzia or not, the symbolism of the bleeding heart vine has my interest. But if they are Stretzy then how? She went poof yo. But is Kingdom Hearts, so she could have gotten better. XD And of course they could be Larxene, because sure why not.
I mean, her going poof and her heart leaving usually means she isn't dead in the traditional sense anyway, really lol. Anytime that happens there is the chance the heart and body can be recombined I guess? Though, I don't think we have really seen that with a Keyblade induced death, for instance. Other than Sora....kind of? Well, if it was a Keyblade that killed her... guess people said the swinging sounded different lol.
But yeah, I agree with Muke I do want this to just be Striletzia or just someone new completely. And this time for them to actually do something either way lol.
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crazy theroy what if blaine is xehanort true name and he changed it xehanort once he found the book and went full darkness like how he chaned into ansem
His skin color isn't even the same? lol
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crazy theroy what if blaine is xehanort true name and he changed it xehanort once he found the book and went full darkness like how he chaned into ansem
?? what .
Blaine is nothing like I imagined and now I'm actually interested in him. Maybe because it's obvious he's a new character and not just Ienzo/Zexion.
AND BBY VEN VEN IS AS CUTE AS EVER.
That bleeding heart thing is not subtle at all. Yeah Nomura denied that they are the same person, but who trusts Nomura's word anyway.
Teeechnically, Nomura only said "no, she is not Strelitzia". We can bend this line, he might've 'meant' "no, she's not the SAME Strelitzia/the one you know" or something like that
Wow, this was nice to wake up to.
I'm inclined to believe that the hooded figure is at least a girl, and the flower likely represents Strelitzia in some way, if this site is to be believed about the flower,
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[*] The rarer white Bleeding Heart is considered a symbol of purity and innocence instead, especially to represent beautiful young women who died in a tragic way.
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Also, is it just me, or are Ephemer's arms really long?
Is it strange that Blaine reminds me of a younger Noctis? Must be all that black he's wearing. Ven really does look like he's younger then the rest. At youngest I think for Ephemera and Skuld would be 13 or 14 while Blaine and Lauriam at 15 possibly.
?? what .
Wow, this was nice to wake up to.
I'm inclined to believe that the hooded figure is at least a girl, and the flower likely represents Strelitzia in some way, if this site is to be believed about the flower,
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Also, is it just me, or are Ephemer's arms really long?
Oh, I completely missed that one! Good find! xD
muke put this way we all think lariam killed steltiza but he is red herring and the true killer was blaine so blaine acuses lauriam but in which turn him against and end up starting the second war meanwhile blaine uses this to adavange to find the book of prophices when he does he meed the hooded person the hoody is somebody know that truth this hooded person get struck down by blaine and take this person name which was xehanort
That makes no sense
Is it strange that Blaine reminds me of a younger Noctis? Must be all that black he's wearing.
"Blaine Izunia... at your service, my dear Keyblade Master."
So is Blaine's hair now black?
As far as I recall it was always black, wasn't it?
The graphic style and color palette of the in-game engine just made it look like dark grey.
More like his leg/knee, no?
Can one really pull up his own knee that far and that close to the chest without actually fully sitting down?
I think I'm in love with Blaine. God damn it. I hated him and now I just want to learn more about him and his hair and that earring.
He also has the same style as Sora and Riku in their KH3 clothes (+ Lann from WoFF) so now I can't even try to think that he is evil now.
That vest he wears somehow also reminds me of the white/silver vest Ventus sports under his jacket.
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After looking at the picture in maximum zoom though I think I am sure that the new flower-coaty's hair is definitely black or a very dark blue.
That makes no sense
somebody made this theroy
https://twitter.com/neroangelo1990/status/904026626475921410
Can one really pull up his own knee that far and that close to the chest without actually fully sitting down?
You can't really tell if he's sitting or standing, so it's not too far fetched to imagine he is sitting down and holding his knee up to his chest.
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Well, that's... rather on-the-nose.
Goso, I'm not really gonna answer the theory itself but I just wanna say that I'll honestly freak out if anybody of the X Cast is somehow Xehanort. (Which I don't think is the case, buuut still)
So is Blaine's hair now black?
My thoughts exactly lol. At least not gray anymore.
Omg Ven is such a sweet bby PROTECT HIM AT ALL COST.
Blaine on the other hand... damn. He's fine. He's REALLY fine. Dude. Nomura, dude. You can't make him that fine.
I think I'm in love with Blaine. God damn it. I hated him and now I just want to learn more about him and his hair and that earring.
THAT EARRING THO.
Goso, I'm not really gonna answer the theory itself but I just wanna say that I'll honestly freak out if anybody of the X Cast is somehow Xehanort. (Which I don't think is the case, buuut still)
i hear you but have they explain how xehanort got his name yet from
His parents gave him his name probably? I don't know how you came up with that plot point, anyway
have they explain how xehanort got his name yet from
His mother gave birth to him and that was the name his parents chose for him. Case [strike]Book of Prophecies[/strike] closed.
Yeah I'm pretty sure Ven is holding his knee. Nomura's anatomy isn't exactly perfect, so it looking a bit awkward isn't that weird. I think the pose is still readable enough. Ephemera's arms bother me more lol.
His parents gave him his name maybe? I don't know how you came up with that plot point, anyway
how about xehnort?
xehanory anybody your from family has that name
The Black Coat seems to have Strelitzia's hair color. Just throwing it out into the open...
And maybe the Bleeding Vine represents feelings that she had for a certain person?
lol what he should we call honey h
how about xehnort?
xehanory anybody your from family has that name
So what? I don't understand your problem with the name. Maybe it has a special meaning for his parents or something.
How did you come up with that plot point?
So what? I don't understand your problem with the name. Maybe it has a special meaning for his parents or something.
How did you come up with that plot point?
Honestly I don't think Blaine or Lauriam killed Strelitzia (Still can't spell her name right.) It would seem to obvious and knowing Nomura it's going to be someone unexpected.
[Spoiler]It's Ventus who did the deed threatened by Strelitizia's natural cuteness and kind personality he lured her into that abandoned dark house where Gula lives(?). Taking her out when she's distracted.
"There can only be one CINNAMON ROLL.."
When he met the other three Union Leaders he was screaming inside of his head at the other cinnamon rolls. Vanitas had to come from somewhere.:wink: [/Spoiler]
as for the pets things i really hope fox stuff is one the options
You know, I wonder if her name is weird BECAUSE they plan to scramble it up into another name.
You can't really tell if he's sitting or standing, so it's not too far fetched to imagine he is sitting down and holding his knee up to his chest.
Granted, that is a possibility since Ven isn't even fully on the picture, although with it being that close somehow I still wonder where his upper leg is, lol.
Goso, I'm not really gonna answer the theory itself but I just wanna say that I'll honestly freak out if anybody of the X Cast is somehow Xehanort. (Which I don't think is the case, buuut still)
I don't know where people get the idea from that Strelitzia could even have a Nobody to begin with.
The conditions for creating one haven't been met at all so it doesn't even matter if Nobodies already exist in the X-era or not.
Agreed, with Ven and Lauriam we already have more than enough "connection" to the present day cast as is. Knowing Nomura though, after the need to make everything "surprising" and fire off Twist-filibusters instead of a reasonable amount connecting everything no matter how ridiculous and unneccessary it looks in the end is his second great "tick" for the narrative of this series.
Yeah I'm pretty sure Ven is holding his knee. Nomura's anatomy isn't exactly perfect, so it looking a bit awkward isn't that weird. I think the pose is still readable enough. Ephemera's arms bother me more lol.
Well duh, Ven is skinny as a twig so it is certainly be possible. ;P
Didn't even notice Ephemer's arms to be honest. <__<
The Black Coat seems to have Strelitzia's hair color. Just throwing it out into the open...
Either you or I are color blind because the hair of the coaty certainly doesn't look orange to me. It's a dark color and style-wise also rather messy apparently as only a few loose strands can be seen.
So what? I don't understand your problem with the name. Maybe it has a special meaning for his parents or something.
How did you come up with that plot point?
Xehanort's name isn't even a plot point to begin with anyways.
Always late to these kind of announcements, but this looks really promising with finally having a face reveal for Blaine. I really, really like his style but I sometimes ask myself, just HOW long does it take for him or any artist to fill in so much detail? I just don't understand how some can accomplish it in such a short amount of time.
By the way I feel that (whoever is under that hood) is most likely the same age of Ven here. Lauriam & Blaine look like the oldest of the members.
Always late to these kind of announcements, but this looks really promising with finally having a face reveal for Blaine. I really, really like his style but I sometimes ask myself, just HOW long does it take for him or any artist to fill in so much detail. I just don't understand how some can accomplish it in such a short amount of time.
By the way I feel that (whoever is under that hood) is most likely the same age of Ven here. Lauriam & Blaine look like the oldest of the members.
What…? It's not like he completed this 4 hours ago lol. He already had this done when he showed the interviewer the "main illustration" for this season, or at least it was already sketched out back then. For all we know, he could've completed this 4 days ago xD
I really do hope this artwork ends up being the new title screen. It really presents a sense of style to the new Fortellers.
And wow, talk about a red-herring in terms of identity. Outside of clothing, Blaine's artwork looks nothing like his KHUx sprite. Why did they have to design Blaine like Ienzo if he had no affiliation with him? and I'm glad that I never thought of him as suspicious, I was personally under the impression that his eyes are covered because his hat created the shading.
Though it begs the question, how are the Trio's going to be formed in this new Union going forward?
I really do hope this artwork ends up being the new title screen. It really presents a sense of style to the new Fortellers.
And wow, talk about a red-herring in terms of identity. Outside of clothing, Blaine's artwork looks nothing like his KHUx sprite. Why did they have to design Blaine like Ienzo if he had no affiliation with him? and I'm glad that I never thought of him as suspicious, I was personally under the impression that his eyes are covered because his hat created the shading.
Though it begs the question, how are the Trio's going to be formed in this new Union going forward?
I really do hope this artwork ends up being the new title screen. It really presents a sense of style to the new Fortellers.
It is confirmed to be the new title screen :)
Why did they have to design Blaine like Ienzo if he had no affiliation with him?
I don't think they ever meant for the two to look alike, but covering Blaine's eyes and parting his hair in that fashion did so accidentally?
Whoa, that artwork looks really good! That flower the hooded fella is holding seems interesting. Were there any similar flowers in Strelitzia`s room by the way?
And wow, talk about a red-herring in terms of identity. Outside of clothing, Blaine's artwork looks nothing like his KHUx sprite. Why did they have to design Blaine like Ienzo if he had no affiliation with him?
Uh, maybe because some visual similarities are in the end really just that: Visual similarities.
I've said from the beginning that connecting Blaine with Ienzo and portraying it as "clear" and "highly probable" is jumping to conclusions.
Though it begs the question, how are the Trio's going to be formed in this new Union going forward?
Wat?
Which "trios"?
Since when is it neccessary to even have those, it's nowhere implied or hinted at anyways?
My thoughts in order...
-Beautiful art simply beautiful
-Oh thank goodness Blaine is a new character he looks nothing like Braig or Ienzo
-Damn Blaine you are fine soooo fine
-Nomura clearly wanted to one up the person who beat him to the Lauriam artwork (joking)
-Cloaked figure feels sort of on the nose, even if it was her Nobody that honestly doesn't change anything since as said her coming back wouldn't erase the fact that she was off'd immediately for cheap shock value, it also remain a very unnecessary plot point since you could have had the same effect without the cheap death just by Lauriam locking her up....actually that would have been pretty cool. Lauriam locks her up but one day he goes to check on her and she is gone so now he start to have a mild freak out and gradually becomes more paranoid. I digress it will be interesting to see what is up with that figure.
-Huh every single new union leader has the same color scheme of black, white, and red.....I guess that's to make them look like a cohesive group and it works.
-Oh my gosh Lauriam's Vest makes an X damn Nomura stop it already
-Oh my gosh Blaine wears an X as his earing
Why did they have to design Blaine like Ienzo if he had no affiliation with him?
I never thought Blaine resembled Ienzo in any way, shape or form. Their hair colors are vaguely similar, that's... not really a lot to go on.
@Muke
My wrong.
I should have been more specific with that I mostly meant other artists (that create identical fan art like that Lauriam fan art) the same day that update was released with Lauriam being revealed in Union X. However I still stand for my point with that while art takes lots of time and patience some just click it in a day with their fan art on a perfect kind of level. This one however I clearly do understand wasn't made in like a day or so. But still.
Uh, maybe because some visual similarities are in the end really just that: Visual similarities.
I've said from the beginning that connecting Blaine with Ienzo and portraying it as "clear" and "highly probable" is jumping to conclusions.
You've completely mis-interpreted what I said. I was complaining as to why Blaine's in game model looks more like Ienzo as opposed to looking more faithful to his intended art-style.
Wat?
Which "trios"?
Since when is it neccessary to even have those, it's nowhere implied or hinted at anyways?
Uh, maybe because it's a common theme in the Kingdom Hearts series, to have a Trio of characters representing the title. New Trio's are usually formed in handheld titles where Sora is not canonically playable. I ain't complaining if there isn't going to be a trio formed, but X definitely seems to be a story that places focus on Ephemer and Skuld, and I have a gut feeling that one other character will be important in their dynamic.
I never thought Blaine resembled Ienzo in any way, shape or form. Their hair colors are vaguely similar, that's... not really a lot to go on.
Their hair styles were similar enough to me to warrant the comparison at the time. They could have done a better job at presenting Blaine's intended style.
I've always assumed that Ephemera, Skuld and the player/Chirithy make up the X trio. Speaking of Chirithy I kind of want to see the other union leaders Chirithies.
"Blaine Izunia... at your service, my dear Keyblade Master."
HOLY SHIIIIIT
DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN! I WANT TO LOVE BLAINE, NOT DESPISE HIM FOR ALL ETERNITY D:
-Damn Blaine you are fine soooo fine
^^^ this is important
-Oh my gosh Blaine wears an X as his earing
Looks more like a cross to me. It's the legacy of goth deviantArt OCs, as someone already mentioned lol
I'd bet money the hooded character is Xion.
I'd bet money the hooded character is Xion.
Yeah, no. That makes no sense at all
Yeah, no. That makes no sense at all
What could make sense however is them being the apprentice to Xehanort and Eraqus. After all, the Master of Master did say that the Keyblade would be passed down to Luxu who would then pass it down to his apprentice who would then pass it down to somebody else (Xehanort).
What could make things even more interesting is Xehanort and Eraqus master being the same age as them. If Ava and Gula were able to be Keyblade Masters despite their age, then I don't see why this hooded character can't hypothetically maintain her youth whilst teaching Xehanort and Eraqus.
Yeah, no. That makes no sense at all
.......................Prove it
.......................Prove it
I don't need to prove anything, it wouldn't make sense. Xion was created in KH CoM/Days, because of Sora and Roxas and whatnot. There's nothing I have to prove, it just wouldn't make sense. That'd mean the events of KH1, CoM and Days had to have happened in the X-era, which is not the case
I don't think it'll be trios and trios aren't neccessarily the strict rule. Even though it was only for a short while, Roxas, Hayner, Pence, and Olette formed and interesting quartet. Now we have what looks to be a quintet.
I'm sad I don't get a picture of Strelitzia, but the artwork is so pretty. I'm really curious about who's got the hood, though.
You've completely mis-interpreted what I said. I was complaining as to why Blaine's in game model looks more like Ienzo as opposed to looking more faithful to his intended art-style.
Except that Blaine's in-game model doesn't look like Ienzo. There are just some visual similarities in the hairstyle, that's literally it.
It is not the designer's fault if some people blow such a thing of proportion.
This strongly reminds me of both the fuss made over the Rebirth-theory which was treated as almost-fact and the issue that came about Gula's pose when his new render was released.
Uh, maybe because it's a common theme in the Kingdom Hearts series, to have a Trio of characters representing the title. New Trio's are usually formed in handheld titles where Sora is not canonically playable. I ain't complaining if there isn't going to be a trio formed, but X definitely seems to be a story that places focus on Ephemer and Skuld, and I have a gut feeling that one other character will be important in their dynamic.
X Chi also doesn't have a trio but the five Foretellers at the forefront, so there isn't an automatism that has to go into that direction.
It would be a waste to introduce Ventus, Lauriam, Strelitzia and Blaine to the scenario and then have only one of them be important besides Ephemer and Skuld.
Also, where is it already a set thing that the story focus will be primarily on Ephemer and Skuld anyways?
I'm happy that Blaine does seem to be an original character based on his artwork.
As for the hooded figure it did remind me of Xion, but obviously it's not her. Maybe it could be a new female character? It does look rather feminine.
And Ephemer looks cute af.
Except that Blaine's in-game model doesn't look like Ienzo. There are just some visual similarities in the hairstyle, that's literally it.
It is not the designer's fault if some people blow such a thing of proportion.
This strongly reminds me of both the fuss made over the Rebirth-theory which was treated as almost-fact and the issue that came about Gula's pose when his new render was released.
You honestly think that they did a good job making Blaine look like his intended depiction? Because he definitely was designed like he was Ienzo. Just because you don’t think he looked like Ienzo doesn’t mean that others shared your interpretation. Looking at Blaine’s artwork, his hair looks nothing like Ienzo so that similarity was entirely unwarranted.
I'm not mad at him not being Ienzo, in fact, I love Blaine's design. I just hate that said design has not translated property in the game that he's currently in. BitGroove just did a terrible job of depicting him in the KHUx artstyle. Why is his eyes shaded? Why isn’t his hair proportioned?
X Chi also doesn't have a trio but the five Foretellers at the forefront, so there isn't an automatism that has to go into that direction.
It would be a waste to introduce Ventus, Lauriam, Strelitzia and Blaine to the scenario and then have only one of them be important besides Ephemer and Skuld.
Also, where is it already a set thing that the story focus will be primarily on Ephemer and Skuld anyways?
Since when did I say that any of them are "not important"? Clearly they're all important, it's just that some of the new Union leaders will inevitable get more spotlight than others because they're more valued as characters.
And it's funny that you mention X, because X Back Cover primarily focused on Ava, Aced and Gula. Invi, Ira and Luxu had miminal screentime outside of their interaction with the Master of Masters. So by that definition, three characters that had a focus on them (Ava, Aced and Gula) technically qualifies for the trio dynamic. And Aced wanted to form an alliance with the both of them anyway, it was only because of the rules set by the Master of Masters in which that was forbidden.
I'm happy that Blaine does seem to be an original character based on his artwork.
As for the hooded figure it did remind me of Xion, but obviously it's not her. Maybe it could be a new female character? It does look rather feminine.
And Ephemer looks cute af.
For a while I thought Blaine looked like Ienzo/Zexion because the hairstyle sorta looked like it but aside from that he really doesn't seem like Ienzo/Zexion at all.
The hooded figure does seem like a girl, maybe we'll find out when the next main story update hits. She also appears to have bangs, so I'm not really expecting a form of Larxene.
Also, nice sig! That's actually one of the older gifs I made when my tumblr url matched the watermark on it :wink:
Ok, I go out for an afternoon and everything happens.
I'll go in order:
- I am of those who don't really see these so famous "boobs". I mean I CAN see the shape if I want to, but honestly doesn't seem any more outstanding than KH's usual style. Just saying, hooded Xigbar doesn't look any more manly than this fella.
Just my opinion, I dont' think it's such an overwhelming proof. If it's a girl, I do hope it's finally Larxene. I don't even care about it being cliché, I just want her.
- So glad Blaine is his own person! This is such a bad period for the "Reincarnation" theorists, therefore a good period for me.
- The pets shown in the screenshots... mhhh, I fear they're just gonna put some real cutesy ones, and we can kiss our chibi dragons and snakes goodbye.
For a while I thought Blaine looked like Ienzo/Zexion too because the hairstyle sorta looked like it but aside from that he really doesn't seem like Ienzo/Zexion at all.
The hooded figure does seem like a girl, so maybe we'll find out when the next main story update hits.
Also, nice sig! That's actually one of the older gifs I made when my tumblr url matched the watermark on it :wink:
I never really connected Blaine to Ienzo anyway. Aside from the hairstyle they seemed too vastly different to be the same person.
Awww thanks! It's a really nice gif. It kinda looks like he's saying "thank you". XD
whoever is coatey i wonfer if that coat giver to that person or did that persson found the coat laying somewhere and thiat person just took it
Re: New Artwork for Union X 2nd Annviersary!
I screamed when this came up! I wonder who the girl in the hood is, and we can see part of her face so hopefully she reveals what she looks like, unlike Luxu. Blaine looks so much better here than he does in the game, so I'm now really hoping we see this characters in a console game!
Well me and this other youtuber came up with the hypothesis of there being a villain trio: Blaine, Lauriam, and another person in cahoots with them. My belief is the other person would be Larxene's somebody, and that she was the one to kill Strelitzia. Why Larxene's somebody? Well it goes better with her title "savage nymph" nymphs typically living in natural locations such as a cave, the warehouse could be seen as a man-made cave. Larxene's somebody would have the spare time going undercover doing the dirty work, while Blaine and Lauriam would be out in the open with the new leaders. Lauriam's title "graceful assassin" just didn't rub off on me as someone who would brutally kill someone with a keyblade. It's likely Lauriam will kill in the future through a more "graceful" indirect means.
This new picture of the hooded figure might very well be of Larxene's somebody, I feel more confident about that now.
You can see the hypothesis of the other member from that youtuber here:
[video=youtube;3Art2XgM-yU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Art2XgM-yU[/video]
Honestly seeing Blaine's artwork has made me rethink whether Blaine actually is evil or not.
At first I thought he was shady, with his face being concealed and all.
But his face in this picture looks so precious and I'm just like "how can this cinnamon roll be evil"?
Then again looks can be deceiving.
[SIZE=2]And about the hooded figure, if you look really closely it seems to have brown-ish hair that covers it's forehead and possibly it's eyes. I think it might just be an original character. [/SIZE]
Honestly seeing Blaine's artwork has made me rethink whether Blaine actually is evil or not.
At first I thought he was shady, with his face being concealed and all.
But his face in this picture looks so precious and I'm just like "how can this cinnamon roll be evil"?
Then again looks can be deceiving.
[SIZE=2]And about the hooded figure, if you look really closely it seems to have brown-ish hair that covers it's forehead and possibly it's eyes. I think it might just be an original character. [/SIZE]
You honestly think that they did a good job making Blaine look like his intended depiction? Because he definitely was designed like he was Ienzo. Just because you don’t think he looked like Ienzo doesn’t mean that others shared your interpretation. Looking at Blaine’s artwork, his hair looks nothing like Ienzo so that similarity was entirely unwarranted.
I'm not mad at him not being Ienzo, in fact, I love Blaine's design. I just hate that said design has not translated property in the game that he's currently in. BitGroove just did a terrible job of depicting him in the KHUx artstyle. Why is his eyes shaded? Why isn’t his hair proportioned?
Dear Lord, that IS his intended depiction. He has the long bangs down the right side of his face, he has the fedora hat with the funny feather. It's all like its supposed to be. The only difference is that in this artwork he's looking slightly upwards and therefore there is no shade from his hat falling over his eyes.
Again you're going with the "he definitely was designed like he was Ienzo"-stuff when that is nowhere confirmed or even hinted at, it is just what you wanted to see in it. There is no "definitely" in this.
Blaine's design shares some potential visual similarities with Ienzo/Zexion's design, specifically the hairstyle, that is something definite, the "like he was/is Ienzo" is not.
Since when did I say that any of them are "not important"? Clearly they're all important, it's just that some of the new Union leaders will inevitable get more spotlight than others because they're more valued as characters.
And it's funny that you mention X, because X Back Cover primarily focused on Ava, Aced and Gula. Invi, Ira and Luxu had miminal screentime outside of their interaction with the Master of Masters. So by that definition, three characters that had a focus on them (Ava, Aced and Gula) technically qualifies for the trio dynamic. And Aced wanted to form an alliance with the both of them anyway, it was only because of the rules set by the Master of Masters in which that was forbidden.
We'll see about that, as frankly I am more inclined to wait out and watch instead of already bringing out too many preconceived scenarios as if they're already set in stone.
So far none of them except Strelitzia got any focus beyond one scene because is Union X is again wasting time with filler material.
Yea sure, except that Ira was really the only one with diminished sceentime and Gula, Aced and Ava ever formed any sort of "trio", that's yet again stretching things so they fit what one wants to see.
The argument with Aced's alliance also doesn't fit into the mold since he explicitly makes clear that he wants to invite Invi as well.
For a while I thought Blaine looked like Ienzo/Zexion because the hairstyle sorta looked like it but aside from that he really doesn't seem like Ienzo/Zexion at all.
Well, the hairstyle is actually the one trait that indeed has a sort of visual similarity to it and I doubt anyone denies that, lol.
Ok, I go out for an afternoon and everything happens.
I'll go in order:
- I am of those who don't really see these so famous "boobs". I mean I CAN see the shape if I want to, but honestly doesn't seem any more outstanding than KH's usual style. Just saying, hooded Xigbar doesn't look any more manly than this fella.
Just my opinion, I dont' think it's such an overwhelming proof. If it's a girl, I do hope it's finally Larxene. I don't even care about it being cliché, I just want her.
- So glad Blaine is his own person! This is such a bad period for the "Reincarnation" theorists, therefore a good period for me.
- The pets shown in the screenshots... mhhh, I fear they're just gonna put some real cutesy ones, and we can kiss our chibi dragons and snakes goodbye.
"Boobs"?
Well, I'll admit that I am not really sure about the coaty, but Nomura's art style is somewhat ambigious at times with this like i.e. in this CoM Concept art:
Sora's chest is also a bit "fuller" than one would expect from a 14year-old yet that Coaty has several hints that could be either.
It being a girl would certainly be preferred though on my part, mainly because the cast really needs it.
Haha, I wouldn't word it like that but in all honesty I am also pleased with the development in these directions. The fewer direct connections between X[chi]-characters and already etablished present-day ones the better.
I never really connected Blaine to Ienzo anyway. Aside from the hairstyle they seemed too vastly different to be the same person.
Yea, that was the impression I got already when he was introduced.
Some theorists linking him more with Braig than with Ienzo was also a wink towards the fact that it wasn't as "clear" as claimed by some.
whoever is coatey i wonfer if that coat giver to that person or did that persson found the coat laying somewhere and thiat person just took it
It doesn't really matter where the coat comes from, does it?
It wasn't really of interest with the MoM and Luxu either so why should it suddenly be important here?
"Boobs"?
That's how others referred to them.
She's female because she has boobs and is wearing an oversized cloak lol
Real talk though, the boobs are a big giveaway.
I agree, Nomura fits the cliché "japanese characters look feminine" trope, so I won't exclude anything.
I do hope for a female character myself (again, Larxene would be optimal), at the same time I feel it could be anyone.
It doesn't really matter where the coat comes from, does it?
It wasn't really of interest with the MoM and Luxu either so why should it suddenly be important here?
Dear Lord, that IS his intended depiction. He has the long bangs down the right side of his face, he has the fedora hat with the funny feather. It's all like its supposed to be. The only difference is that in this artwork he's looking slightly upwards and therefore there is no shade from his hat falling over his eyes.
Again you're going with the "he definitely was designed like he was Ienzo"-stuff when that is nowhere confirmed or even hinted at, it is just what you wanted to see in it. There is no "definitely" in this.
Blaine's design shares some potential visual similarities with Ienzo/Zexion's design, specifically the hairstyle, that is something definite, the "like he was/is Ienzo" is not.
All I'm literally saying is that that they could have done a better job of designing Blaine's in-game sprite. Your whole "you're just using baseless assumptions to conclude your theory of Blaine looking like Ienzo" argument is tiring because that's the easy way out of arguing against an initial opinion that was shared by other people. A bad sprite job is a bad sprite job, there's no two ways around it.
i do see you point however if you comparing the master of master and luxu coat look brand new since master of master proablly give luxu his cat while orginaztion member coat look new sine they were give to by xenams while coaty coat look old and dusty to me
?? What about them looks brand new? No, I don't remember a single dusty coat.
Yea, that was the impression I got already when he was introduced.
Some theorists linking him more with Braig than with Ienzo was also a wink towards the fact that it wasn't as "clear" as claimed by some.
I personally connected Blaine with Braig more than Ienzo anyway, but I'm honestly happy that he seems to be his own person. It already felt weird to me having Ventus and Lauriam be here anyway.
i dont know it hard to tell what color the hair when the coat is hood is covering it
It is hard to tell but to me it looks brown. I thought it could have maybe been Strelitzia at first but the hair covering it's forehead doesn't really seem to match up with hers.
?? What about them looks brand new? No, I don't remember a single dusty coat.
It is hard to tell but to me it looks brown. I thought it could have maybe been Strelitzia at first but the hair covering it's forehead doesn't really seem to match up with hers.
i see you point but i want to see first the reveal though make a guess it could be someone new or it could stelitiza we dont know yet
I don't need to prove anything, it wouldn't make sense. Xion was created in KH CoM/Days, because of Sora and Roxas and whatnot. There's nothing I have to prove, it just wouldn't make sense. That'd mean the events of KH1, CoM and Days had to have happened in the X-era, which is not the case
.................Time travel
That's how others referred to them.
I agree, Nomura fits the cliché "japanese characters look feminine" trope, so I won't exclude anything.
I do hope for a female character myself (again, Larxene would be optimal), at the same time I feel it could be anyone.
I get that, lol, but with Nomura's art style you really can't be 100% sure.
It's not even solely that as his style incorporates generally a lot of "curves" as I've noticed.
I dunno if Larxene would be the optimal choice, perhaps as a sort of callback to her being Marluxia's partner in CoM it might be, yet that wouldn't really increase the overall amount of girls we have in the cast and could possibly screw up the narrative even more.
If half of the already existing cast runs around in the X-era which is supposed to be vastly in the past and a legend, the premise of no one knowing at least rudimentary facts about this era and Xehanort being totally gung-ho about repeating the whole shit out of curiosity in order to access all the lost knowledge cannot be held up except if they play the old, overused "total amnesia"-card yet again.
All I'm literally saying is that that they could have done a better job of designing Blaine's in-game sprite. Your whole "you're just using baseless assumptions to conclude your theory of Blaine looking like Ienzo" argument is tiring because that's the easy way out of arguing against an initial opinion that was shared by other people. A bad sprite job is a bad sprite job, there's no two ways around it.
I don't see what changes about the whole thing just because a certain opinion was shared by some other people, there are also enough who didn't share this particular opinion, as there are those who do not think that here is a "bad sprite job" at hand.
?? What about them looks brand new? No, I don't remember a single dusty coat.
He's mistaking the lighting on the coat in the artwork for dust, lol.
I personally connected Blaine with Braig more than Ienzo anyway, but I'm honestly happy that he seems to be his own person. It already felt weird to me having Ventus and Lauriam be here anyway.
It is hard to tell but to me it looks brown. I thought it could have maybe been Strelitzia at first but the hair covering it's forehead doesn't really seem to match up with hers.
I've not outright dismissed the possibility that he could be connected to either Ienzo or Braig, but always delegated these to be unlikely, especially since Ventus doesn't use a different name and neither does Lauriam.
I can relate to this as directly connecting the present cast with the past era can from some angles feel just so forced and contrived, mainly so it can be crammed somehow into the present day story.
The hair color of flower-coaty is indeed hard to decipher, although I am pretty sure it is a dark shade color.
muke the coats had to be be be new since they given to then by people i mean xenams gave the orgiznation there coats and like how master of masters gave luxu his coat this person seem like it old and dusty to me
i see you point but i want to see first the reveal though make a guess it could be someone new or it could stelitiza we dont know yet
I'm afraid I still don't get your point.
What does it matter who gave this person their coat or where they got it from?
It's just a standard black coat like all the others shown so far.
.................Time travel
Stepping into this other conversation real quick to state something:
People. Time travel in KH isn't actually a convenient way to do things.
Time travelling requires extreme sacrifices to be made just to make it work: you need to cast away your body, only move in one direction, having a version of you at the arriving point, yadda yadda.
I don't even see it as a "way" one can travel, I think time travelling in KH means making strenuos efforts in order to "cheat" nature for a brief period.
I mean, just leaving your body behind and THEN moving through time is an inhuman task, literally.
So, props to Xehanort for making it possible and usable, but it's not something that can be used to justify everything. Still voice out your theories, of course, but do remember that every time you're going to use "time travel" as an answer for a certain character in another time period, what you're really saying is: "Maybe this specific character threw away their body while still existing, knew the correct way/spell to move through time and arrived in another era where there was already a version of themselves waiting for them(selves)."
I'm afraid I still don't get your point.
What does it matter who gave this person their coat or where they got it from?
It's just a standard black coat like all the others shown so far.
That guy with pink hair Is marluxia who is only guy game that like roses
That guy with pink hair Is marluxia who is only guy game that like roses
No one is disputing that. We all know it's Marluxia/Lauriam.
this pet upade cant wait to ee how it workds and how many animal idea are there like maybe we could get a fox
Leaving this here, because I think I may just have hit something...
[video=youtube;dw0itahpUuA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw0itahpUuA[/video]
She actually died though so no heartless.
Leaving this here, because I think I may just have hit something...
[video=youtube;dw0itahpUuA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw0itahpUuA[/video]
We sure about it, someone was saying that a lot
What I don't understand though: Why this secret over Blaine's face? Why does his sprite obscure half of his face and why does Nomura so casually reveal his face that now doesn't really seem to resemble anybody (so there's apparently no reason to hide it). I wonder if it's supposed to hint and emphasise a secretive nature of Blaine instead.
What I don't understand though: Why this secret over Blaine's face? Why does his sprite obscure half of his face and why does Nomura so casually reveal his face that now doesn't really seem to resemble anybody (so there's apparently no reason to hide it). I wonder if it's supposed to hint and emphasise a secretive nature of Blaine instead.
Maybe they just couldn't be bothered to make a face for Blaine and so they obscured it instead? Or Nomura intentionally wanted us to think he was secretly an previously existing character, until the reveal that he wasn't and he's actually his own person? (I wouldn't put it past him, lmao). Blaine could still potentially be shady anyway.
What I don't understand though: Why this secret over Blaine's face? Why does his sprite obscure half of his face and why does Nomura so casually reveal his face that now doesn't really seem to resemble anybody (so there's apparently no reason to hide it). I wonder if it's supposed to hint and emphasise a secretive nature of Blaine instead.
Or maybe they pointed out to him that people were getting mislead by his appearance and he changed it.
...It actually happens sometimes.
At this point, I believe Nomura just didn't finish Blaine's face and hair in time before he had to appear in UX, and gave him a hat because of it.
Honestly, if that's the reason why then I'm more appreciative of the character design. Though I would like to see an updated model of Blaine which is more representative of the art style depicted in this anniversary work.
Calling it now: The character in the hood is Invi. I came up with a theory about a year ago that Invi was the traitor and was in cahoots with the MoM and Luxu: Kingdom Hearts X traitor theory! (Spoilers ahead!) - Forever Dreaming...
Basically, I theorised that the MoM, Luxu and Invi are a trio and are a symbolic representation of the Chimera (Lion, Goat, Serpent, which are the animal representations of their respective sins).
Calling it now: The character in the hood is Invi. I came up with a theory about a year ago that Invi was the traitor and was in cahoots with the MoM and Luxu: Kingdom Hearts X traitor theory! (Spoilers ahead!) - Forever Dreaming...
Basically, I theorised that the MoM, Luxu and Invi are a trio and are a symbolic representation of the Chimera (Lion, Goat, Serpent, which are the animal representations of their respective sins).
by the way nomura did it again with troll tuotial lol
also does aanybody know it nomura pay attening to their posions does he mean how they standing or where they at in the picture?
What I don't understand though: Why this secret over Blaine's face? Why does his sprite obscure half of his face and why does Nomura so casually reveal his face that now doesn't really seem to resemble anybody (so there's apparently no reason to hide it). I wonder if it's supposed to hint and emphasise a secretive nature of Blaine instead.
just wanted the "hat casting a shadow" hot look.
If the black coat is going to be any returning character, I think it would have to be Ava.
She's the only Foreteller that we could reasonably assume survived, using the coat to become the new "Master" to this group of new "Foretellers"
The bleeding heart vine could represent Strelitzia, and the only characters who knew about her or her role as Union Leader are Ava and the Master. And hey, someone has to figure out one of these Leaders doesn't belong.
The bagginess of the coat would also fit because Ava is teeny tiny.
And as much as I want Larxene to show up, I don't think she'd be given a coat. Being a main illustration, I think it's safe to assume the black coat will be in a coat for the majority of the title, like Luxu and the Master before them.
If the black coat is going to be any returning character, I think it would have to be Ava.
She's the only Foreteller that we could reasonably assume survived, using the coat to become the new "Master" to this group of new "Foretellers"
The bleeding heart vine could represent Strelitzia, and the only characters who knew about her or her role as Union Leader are Ava and the Master. And hey, someone has to figure out one of these Leaders doesn't belong.
The bagginess of the coat would also fit because Ava is teeny tiny.
And as much as I want Larxene to show up, I don't think she'd be given a coat. Being a main illustration, I think it's safe to assume the black coat will be in a coat for the majority of the title, like Luxu and the Master before them.
i hope the coated person is ava, coming back with a vengeance for believing MoM and finally getting agency as she hunts down and kills him.
i can dream.
Wouldn't mind if it's Ava..as long as she's wearing new duds under there.
if this coaty ava i wouldn't compain and i could see her getting revenge on the master for not telling her what would happen to strelitiza and doing noting to stop her death
Honest question, what do you all think a smiling/cheerful Ienzo drawn in this style would look like? How would you make this face on Blaine different?
I ask because, as far as I can tell, there's nothing inherently...non-Ienzo about this face? Literally aside from cheerfulness. Which, if y'all see that, his emotional expression, as the reason here, I would feel reason to draw attention to those who complain about two-dimensional characters not experiencing a wider range of emotions.
That aside, because I've seen Nomura's art at times look off-color, varied in shapes for the same character, have a collection of "angular young man" faces all look nearly the same in structure, and some drawings just seeming completely off model in certain respects depending on the image at hand, I will happily accept that this is not Ienzo if that ends up totally confirmed, but I see no reason personally for me to really put that idea to the wayside. For me, mind you, I don't give a dern what any of you choose in the matter, though some of you seem to really care strongly about others seeing Ienzo in this guy.
Honestly the only thing that threw me off in this image was his hair, which yeah, it's totally off from the sprite, and its not just the color. It's completely clear that, in the sprite, it's shorter in the back, a la Ienzo, whereas this art shows a much more overall full head of hair on all sides. The sprite has some hair juuuuust barely going beyond his collar in the back, whereas this art has some straight-up near-Marluxia lengths going on. And even with all of that...I'm honestly still not entirely swayed. It's just...not hard for me to see that as heavily shaded Ienzo hair that is for some reason longer than usual in the back. And that's not me "trying" real hard to "see what I want to see" or anything...that's just honestly what I saw immediately upon viewing the image.
Okay but there are some bigger things here...
Grabbed a bunch of nomura art of Zexion/Ienzo + Ienzo's DDD model
https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/3/3d/Zexion-_Concept_%28Art%29_KHCOM.png/revision/20150703144113
http://img14.deviantart.net/4fc3/i/2012/322/4/4/kingdom_hearts_wallpaper_by_scarface_yakuza-d5ldajb.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f8/c4/7c/f8c47c2c022f305299ea803fc8f3bf0d--art-music-dive.jpg
https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/7/76/Ienzo_%28Screenshot%29_KH3D.png/revision/latest?cb=20151230214422
As you already said Blaine's hair is literally nothing like Ienzo's save for it being slightly heavier on one side and even then the artwork shows that unlike Ienzo's it's not really meant to be covering one eye that's was part of the stylization of Chi's style. So the style being totally different to the point it's roots are clearly growing out of his scalp differently is one thing. Then you factor in their hair colors are not even remotely similar with Blaine's being almost black while Ienzo/Zexion's has always been very obviously blue usually towards a paler blue. This is not "off colored" this is like saying Vanitas's hair is merely an off colored version of Sora's or Xion's hair is an off colored version of Kairi's, and Nomura has been very consistent with Ienzo's/Zexion's hair color so it's very odd that suddenly he be so off base. You're already doing several mental jumps to have to make this work.
But let's entertain the notion that the totally different hair aren't enough evidence that they aren't the same person. How about the totally different body and facial structures with Ienzo being a smaller lankier child who physically appears to be several years younger than Blaine and closer to Chi Ven's age. Also speaking of changed colors Zexion/Ienzo has always had very sharp piercing blue eyes it's part of his character in fact his creepily deep eyes staring at you is his entire character in BBS and they've done lots of close up on his eyes because they say a lot. Blaine's eyes are steel colored to point they look almost grey or at best you could argue they are steely blue but still nothing like Ienzo's "I will absorb your soul" blue.
Finally and probably the most clear cut evidence is the name isn't anything remotely like Ienzo's. Lauriam's name is different only because Marluxia never was Marluxia's real name, it was an anagram of it that much we always knew. So whatever happened to get Lauriam into modern times or whatever doesn't result in a name change. Same goes for Ventus he even gives the same speech "My name is Ventus call me Ven" so whatever happens here it's not going to result in a drastic name change for Ventus either. So why would Ienzo get an entirely different name nothing like his original?
Like here is what it boils down to is that Blaine is by all rights a new character in everything from name to appearance. So if he was supposed to be Ienzo why isn't that represented anywhere? If you're not bothering to hide Marluxia and Ventus why go to the lengths to make Ienzo so virtually different that he isn't even the same character anymore? Heck if he's not going to be remotely the same character what was the point of bringing him in, in the first place? These are the questions you have to answer for your beliefs to ultimately have weight.
I mean you are free to believe what you want it's just kind of a little boggling at this point to hold onto this idea that Blaine might be Ienzo. As boggling as the people who hold onto the idea that Gula reincarnates as Ventus when Ventus was alive during the same era as Gula.
I don't need to prove anything, it wouldn't make sense. Xion was created in KH CoM/Days, because of Sora and Roxas and whatnot. There's nothing I have to prove, it just wouldn't make sense. That'd mean the events of KH1, CoM and Days had to have happened in the X-era, which is not the case
But the events of the Disney worlds which we've already played through in other games are taking place in the X-era and that makes perfect sense?
Not following the plot of Unchained makes reading these threads highly amusing. Strelitzia got killed off? Wasn't she introduced like two minutes ago?
But the events of the Disney worlds which we've already played through in other games are taking place in the X-era and that makes perfect sense?
Not following the plot of Unchained makes reading these threads highly amusing. Strelitzia got killed off? Wasn't she introduced like two minutes ago?
And yeah, Strelitzia was introduced in the beginning of August, then the rest of the update came two weeks later and she died.
In his art he looks older than Ienzo was in BBS. So I really don't see how they could be the same.
The Disney worlds are projections from the Book of Prophecies, not entirely dissimilar to the data worlds created from Jiminy's journal in coded
Case in point.
And yeah, Strelitzia was introduced in the beginning of August, then the rest of the update came two weeks later and she died.
Hahahahaha. Brutal.
It's like
What Nomura wants Unchained to be:
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[/SPOILER]What Unchained actually is:
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For me , Blaine is Blaine. Simply...
And the one in black coat could be Strelitzia.. what's the point to make a Character and kill her after 5 Story Quest?
But could be a new Character. Who knows?
Calling it now: The character in the hood is Invi. I came up with a theory about a year ago that Invi was the traitor and was in cahoots with the MoM and Luxu: Kingdom Hearts X traitor theory! (Spoilers ahead!) - Forever Dreaming...
Basically, I theorised that the MoM, Luxu and Invi are a trio and are a symbolic representation of the Chimera (Lion, Goat, Serpent, which are the animal representations of their respective sins).
To be fair, Invi is the most mysterious Forteller out of the original group. Her role in the original group was to ease tensions between the different members. And if Striletzia was canonically part of the Anguis Union, it could make the Lamprocapnos that the hooded figure's holding all the more symbolic as she could be mourning Striletzia's death.
Adding onto the symbolism of the Snake, in the tale of Adam and Eve, it was the Snake that tempted Eve to eat the Apple, and as a result, her and Adam felt shame. I wouldn't all that surprised if Luxu's successor does end up being Invi. She's already qualified to be the in-between.
All this talk about Blaine being Ienzo or Braig, when in reality, he is... both! BRAINE (L=R because japanese) -> BRAIg + iENzo. Blaine will fuse with a guy called Gizo, or Zigo and will defuse into Braig and Ienzo! Based on the visual clues, this Gizo is young, has Braig's hairstyle, blue hair, and probably a pirate. You heard here first!
Back to being serious. As much as I would love Ava's return, I doubt she is under that hood. Nomura obviously wants to play the mysterious traitor card again with the new leaders. Since Ava met all of them, she could point out the one taking over Strelitzia's spot in a second, killing the mistery of the traitor. My guesses: it's either Larxene (since she has a connection with Lauriam), a somehow surviving Strelitzia, out for revenge, but not knowing who struck her down, thus the coat to spy on the leadrs, or a new character who wants revenge for Strelitzia, symbolisied by the flower.
I truly think we can lay the Blaine = Ienzo theory down to rest. I was kind of suspicious of it, but it's very clear now they aren't meant to be the same. Different hair style, different hair color, differen't eye color, different ages, and what looks to be a different personality... completely opposite of say, Ventus, who remains the same and it seems even his age (11) will carry on later to Birth by Sleep. Marly too most likely. Whatever happened to them simply thrust them forward in time and didn't affect their ages, appearance, or their names as Hirokey said.
Which is great, because I don't want any convoluted explanations as to why Blaine suddenly became a wee child and had a massive name change when Ven kept his age and name.
Just comeback to KHUx after one month and this happen. Well, I can't guess what KH series will do to make me shock. There a space of thinking after I finished the main story and here the result of me theorizing.[SPOILER]1: How coincidental the pet system is implemented. I think it has to do with Strelitzia and somehow connected to Sora (as we seen at KH 15th Artwork). Strelitzia has taken form as "Spirit" to symbolizes the pets.
2: This is one little bit off cause I don't know if Unchained Arc still relevent for this. Instead of dying, Strelitzia is "awaken" and that heart is other than her. This like how Sora posses Kairi heart in him.[/SPOILER]There is more but I mentioned above is pretty much lined up together.
I honestly think the only KHUx era characters that have a VERY direct connection with present day KH are Ventus and Lauriam. Besides them, I think the rest of the KHUx crew have little to no connection with present day KH, but we have to be wary because we still don't know how present day characters have a lot of knowledge of KHx, but we'll see.
Other than that, I think it's kinda obvious that the coated figure could either be Steritzia, or someone connected to her. But I don't think she's a Heartless or Nobody. He heart wasn't lost to darkness, so there isn't a Heartless to be created. Although she did have the will to continue living, her heart wasn't lost to the darkness. She died the same way Eraqus died.
Speaking of Eraqus, someone mentioned the possibility of Steritzia connecting her heart with someone else's in order to live on. That's speculative, but there are a lot of ways for someone to survive and live on in the universe of KH that it's practically impossible to completely write-off a character.
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TL;DR - Ven and Luari (hehe) are the only KHUx characters with present day connection; HoodyGirl is either Steritzia, or someone very connected to her.
Hmmm...maybe Strelitzia's heart could have gone inside the player off-screen or something?
Everyone is talking about the hooded figure yet I'm trying to figure out if skuld' s eyes are golden or light brown.
Everyone is talking about the hooded figure yet I'm trying to figure out if skuld' s eyes are golden or light brown.
Definitely light brown
Definitely light brown
Yeah, definitely light brown. Thanks :)
I've always interpreted Skuld's eye color as hazel/light brown, definitely not any Xehanorty-related yellow/golden.
Hmmm...maybe Strelitzia's heart could have gone inside the player off-screen or something?
Well, even the thought of Strelitzia living on is speculative, but we do know that she will be connected with future events, seeing as how the flower that Ms. Hoody is wearing represents a young woman dying a tragic death. It coincides too much with how she dies, and the timing of this new characters' reveal. Whether Ms. Hoody is Strelitzia, or someone directly connected to her, it's unknown at this point in time.
Also, I forgot to mention that I think that Blaine's face wasn't revealed either because:
* It wasn't finalized;
* They wanted to make him look suspicious in order to throw us off guard before we realized Lauriam was Strelitzia's killer.
I don't even understand how some people think the hooded character is Xion...like wat.
I'm surprised no one (or close to no one, I might've missed someone), mentioned it could be Luxu.
Okay, we're going by the rule that is a female, but I've heard literally anyone being cast as the hooded figure except the only known hooded figure to be around at that point in time.
Luxu has a distinct male voice though, it wouldn't make sense to make this hooded person female then (unless everybody is wrong and they aren't female at all). I'm personally at the fence whether they're female or not, the face does have feminine features and the flower hints at it, too.
I'm surprised no one (or close to no one, I might've missed someone), mentioned it could be Luxu.
Okay, we're going by the rule that is a female, but I've heard literally anyone being cast as the hooded figure except the only known hooded figure to be around at that point in time.
Btw, the decorations for the anniversary spell "2th".
GG Japan.
I think the hooded character is Strelitzia, not only because of the bleeding heart flower and the symbolism it has, but also for the "hair" you can see (i know little is seen about her). The hair seems to be brown but this might be because of the hood and the shades, so muy bet is that the hooded character has blonde or even orange hair (as our little Strelitzia). Another "hint" is the fact that Lauriam and the hooded figure are holding flowers and guess what characters have their names related to the flowers theme? Lauriam and Strelitzia. The only thing i don't understand is how can she be brought back to life... Maybe the nobody way is the answer but i think it is related to the Book, you know the Disney worlds are created from the Book. What if Strelitzia is brought back as a memory/data from the Book? What do you think?
Btw, the decorations for the anniversary spell "2th".
GG Japan.
English speaking fans will find a way to blame SENA for that, just like they blame them for spelling errors on those special EX medals with characters made up by words.
English speaking fans will find a way to play SENA for that, just like they blame them for spelling errors on those special EX medals with characters made up by words.
I'd laugh, but this is sadly too true.
I'd laugh, but this is sadly too true.
I saw the most ridiculous accusation this weekend. Someone was pissed thinking that support for KHUX_NA had ceased after two days. It's the long weekend in America, of course no one would be in the office tweeting and whatnot.
I saw the most ridiculous accusation this weekend. Someone was pissed thinking that support for KHUX_NA had ceased after two days. It's the long weekend in America, of course no one would be in the office tweeting and whatnot.
People will go out of their way to find something that they can rant about and blame SENA for, it's stupid
And my only thought is:
"Is Ventus holding something or is he just very protective of his leg?"
[FONT='inherit']Blaine finally has done his eyes reveal [/FONT]
People will go out of their way to find something that they can rant about and blame SENA for, it's stupid
I've seen lots of global players get pissy at SENA for things that are, in fact, actually identical to JP...
I have a problem with those who complain without having the actual context. I mean, if you're so disenfranchised, you should just switch versions, y'know?
But in general, I can't blame people for assuming the worst of SENA. It's not as though they've been cultivating much good will.
It really shouldn't've have turned out like this.
I've seen lots of global players get pissy at SENA for things that are, in fact, actually identical to JP...
I have a problem with those who complain without having the actual context. I mean, if you're so disenfranchised, you should just switch versions, y'know?
But in general, I can't blame people for assuming the worst of SENA. It's not as though they've been cultivating much good will.
It really shouldn't've have turned out like this.
I honestly don't know why they even introduced changes to the international version anyways.
In the end it should be only about the language and translation anyways, so except the language the JP and International version should be identical, meaning that rewards and abilities/stats of medals should be 100% the same in both versions.
Re: New Artwork for Union X 2nd Annviersary!
I screamed when this came up! I wonder who the girl in the hood is, and we can see part of her face so hopefully she reveals what she looks like, unlike Luxu. Blaine looks so much better here than he does in the game, so I'm now really hoping we see this characters in a console game!
why did you think the hooded figure was a girl? I did too
Re: New Artwork for Union X 2nd Annviersary!
why did you think the hooded figure was a girl? I did too
Tits .
I really hope that Blaine's character model is updated to properly reflect his hairstyle and actually show his eyes.
im still wondering though did the master of master knews that sterlitza was going to die na d if so does anybody has keyblade with an eye on it?
the flower
for people that might want to know about the flower the the hood person is holding. The flower is the reason why strealizea (i spell wrong some times so that might be wrong) was named well her name. The flower represents her charter, if you want to know more go to the youtube channel the gamers joint he well talk more about it.
Re: the flower
for people that might want to know about the flower the the hood person is holding. The flower is the reason why strealizea (i spell wrong some times so that might be wrong) was named well her name. The flower represents her charter, if you want to know more go to the youtube channel the gamers joint he well talk more about it.
Please don't tell me you're actively watching his videos :(
What character are we talking about?
Strelitzia stalks the player and that's like 50 percent of her character traits.
this theory is intresing what if hoody is us the player
[video=youtube;lzsyK7vfnfk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsyK7vfnfk&t=922s[/video]
this theory is intresing what if hoody is us the player
[video=youtube;lzsyK7vfnfk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsyK7vfnfk&t=922s[/video]
Coaty is not us, that's for sure
I can't see them ever giving us a canon appearance.
I can't see them ever giving us a canon appearance.
The player typically isn't acknowledged. especially not in promotional media. Even moreso now when the player is left completely in the dark with the story and has no involvement with the Union leaders.
The player typically isn't acknowledged. especially not in promotional media. Even moreso now when the player is left completely in the dark with the story and has no involvement with the Union leaders.
[SPOILER=KHUx spoilers]I don't think Hoodie is Player, and I am more inclined to think that Hoodie is a female. Plus Hoodie is on an opposite end to Luriam, why would Player seem to have a direct connection to Luriam? It's more probable for Hoodie to have a direct connection to Strelitzia, seeing as how she's holding a flower which symbolism relates a lot to her, and is on an opposite end to Luriam's, who assassinated her.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=KHUx spoilers]I don't think Hoodie is Player, and I am more inclined to think that Hoodie is a female. Plus Hoodie is on an opposite end to Luriam, why would Player seem to have a direct connection to Luriam? It's more probable for Hoodie to have a direct connection to Strelitzia, seeing as how she's holding a flower which symbolism relates a lot to her, and is on an opposite end to Luriam's, who assassinated her.[/SPOILER]
i think her heart will end up in player sort of like how kairi ends up in sora when this happens the player will see her murder take place and go after the killer also by doing this he will know the war was real and everything that been happing is a lie which will turn into darkness and make his charity into a dream eater which is why ephermera face is like that in the picture.
hoody could be female but there not enough evidence to point that out now
Putting this in here since the original announcement accompanied the artwork, but the update for Version 2.3.0 has been postponed. Development on it has concluded, but it's currently awaiting review by the platformer (my money's on Apple) and will take some time for approval.
スクウェア・エニックス BRIDGE | ゲーム・コミュニティ| SQUARE ENIX BRIDGE
A friend came up with just a thought: what if Maleficent is involved in the Strelitzia affair?
It's just a thought and there is no proof of it, but I always thought: how did the assassin know about the Union Leaders plan? It seems really difficult that someone amongst the players could've caught wind of Ava nad the MoM's schemes.
Unless someone from the outside, who already had at least a basic knowledge of the events manipulated them.
"Hey kid, they're tricking you all and only 5 of you will be saved from complete annihilation: infiltrate them, get the Book and we'll share the rewards."
I mena, it doesn't seem completely impossible or out of Maleficent's way of doing things.
A friend came up with just a thought: what if Maleficent is involved in the Strelitzia affair?
It's just a thought and there is no proof of it, but I always thought: how did the assassin know about the Union Leaders plan? It seems really difficult that someone amongst the players could've caught wind of Ava nad the MoM's schemes.
Unless someone from the outside, who already had at least a basic knowledge of the events manipulated them.
"Hey kid, they're tricking you all and only 5 of you will be saved from complete annihilation: infiltrate them, get the Book and we'll share the rewards."
I mena, it doesn't seem completely impossible or out of Maleficent's way of doing things.
Possibly. We still don't know how Maleficent comes into play into the KHUx plot.
A friend came up with just a thought: what if Maleficent is involved in the Strelitzia affair?
It's just a thought and there is no proof of it, but I always thought: how did the assassin know about the Union Leaders plan? It seems really difficult that someone amongst the players could've caught wind of Ava nad the MoM's schemes.
Unless someone from the outside, who already had at least a basic knowledge of the events manipulated them.
"Hey kid, they're tricking you all and only 5 of you will be saved from complete annihilation: infiltrate them, get the Book and we'll share the rewards."
I mena, it doesn't seem completely impossible or out of Maleficent's way of doing things.
Certainly possible I'd say.
In the Unchained 0 - scene where she appears in Maleficent does say "Besides just that, where in the world did he go off to again?"
Of whom is she talking about? When the scene first came out many people probably assumed she's talking about Pete, but what if she isn't?
Maleficent manipulating someone into helping her schemes also isn't new and would perfectly fit her character, not to mention a nice throwback to her role and actions in KH 1.
Certainly possible I'd say.
In the Unchained 0 - scene where she appears in Maleficent does say "Besides just that, where in the world did he go off to again?"
Of whom is she talking about? When the scene first came out many people probably assumed she's talking about Pete, but what if she isn't?
Maleficent manipulating someone into helping her schemes also isn't new and would perfectly fit her character, not to mention a nice throwback to her role and actions in KH 1.
If that does end up being the case, we could see a situation in which Lauriam partners up with Maleficent and Pete. By doing that, they can maintain his antagonist role whilst have him still be against Xehanort's motives.
Thanks for the feedback guys, appreciated to see it wasn't just us.
I'll be sure to pass your answers to my pal :P
Possibly. We still don't know how Maleficent comes into play into the KHUx plot.
I swear, it's so tiring to deal with the Chi-involved villains as of now. We got suspicious level over 9000 Luxu and MoM, we got the shady Chirithy, we got even shady players, and also fishy Foretellers, but even the furry convention got toned down by the plot's newest black holes, Maleficent, maybe Pete, Lauriam, that new coaty, who else am I missing. Somehow all of them bear a certain nuance of something "villain" or "anti" or "negative", more or less, depending on case. We got a lot of "grey" characters that I would really like to be able to sort out at least some of them neatly into "light" and "dark" or "white" and "black" or "good" and "evil", for once I would prefer simpler things in the deal with this series...
I swear, it's so tiring to deal with the Chi-involved villains as of now. We got suspicious level over 9000 Luxu and MoM, we got the shady Chirithy, we got even shady players, and also fishy Foretellers, but even the furry convention got toned down by the plot's newest black holes, Maleficent, maybe Pete, Lauriam, that new coaty, who else am I missing. Somehow all of them bear a certain nuance of something "villain" or "anti" or "negative", more or less, depending on case. We got a lot of "grey" characters that I would really like to be able to sort out at least some of them neatly into "light" and "dark" or "white" and "black" or "good" and "evil", for once I would prefer simpler things in the deal with this series...
I couldn't disagree more. I like that the villains are not as clear cut this time around. It makes people think and theories, and it makes the characters in this entry more three dimensional. You want "simple" characters? go play Birth by Sleep, Master Xehanort and Vanitas are as obvious as villains as you can imagine. People hated that, people hated that Terra was so gullible about Xehanort and that Ventus didn't do much to warn Terra or Eraqus about Master Xehanort once his memories of his former Master was reformed. Master Xehanort and Vanitas were entertaining villains but they were easily shoehorned in the villains, which limited their emotional scope.
It was interesting to see everybody's take on who the traitor was before Back Cover, it was interesting for people to doubt Ephemer and Skuld when they were first introduced, and it was funny to see everybody point fingers at Blaine being fishy just because his eyes were covered. Had the villains in this entry be more clear cut then the investment into the narrative of X wouldn't have been anywhere as strong.
Baymax, I couldn't agree more!! Said it better than I would ever be able to.
I think I relate to what DarkGrey was saying, to some extent.
It is true that an unforeseeable and unexpected villain would be a nice change of pace (aside from the fact that, well, Ansem in KH1 wasn't exactly all up in your face), but that doesn't mean every take that isn't clear cut is automatically good.
Honestly, I don't always like how X handles the characters: trying to guess who's the traitor is fun, yes, but the fact that EVERYTHING about EVERYONE is a mystery isn't.
To me it's just the same old "mysteries spam" Nomura's been doing as of late.
Having a villain that isn't straight up an enemy to destroy as soon as he appears would definitely feel fresh for the series and a way to deliver an interesting story (provided one has the skills to do so, obviously), but I also think X has too many grey characters.
I'm curious and involved when I see the MoM acting all mysterious. I'm not when nearly everybody else do the same. I feel bored.
I don't have people to root for. Or people I dislike. Because even what little they show might be an act, and everyone might be a traitor, or manipulated, or an hero undercover.
Not a great and compelling narrative when you do it all the time.
Glad the story and character development and updates work well for you guys, but it just doesn't give me more enthusiasm anymore. But whatever I'll say, you will disagree each time, just don't rip off my head. It is just my personal feeling about how the story recently progresses/deepens in a way that I don't consider the best/most fulfilling and how in the years and years of me being in the "fandom" it got strangely tiring in the end, though I didn't expect it to ever happen in my case, as I absorbed every new piece of content eagerly each time. It's just how the story deepens that bugs me. If the final results will be amazing, though, then I will of course reconsider the Chi evolution as a whole.
And no, I don't want "simple" characters, but I don't want so many characters whose portraits are like cheese with hundreds of holes in it either. I wrote "simpler things" which wasn't meant to be taken wrong
Reading the last few comments I personally tend to think the bigger problem here are not exactly the many "grey" characters or even the fact that there is still more mystery than anything and still no one knows who the actual villain/enemy is and why they're doing all the shit they're doing, but that it is dragged out to a point of frustration.
The whole traitor-guessing and headscratching about who the actual enemy is was already a thing since around the middle of the original browser-Chi back in 2014, which is by now three if not four years ago.
We got further snippets and some "aha"-moments along the way like i.e. Gula revealing parts of the Lost Page and highly ambigious interactions between Luxu and Ava, but nothing actually concrete that would allow the audience to at least narrow the field of suspects or get a clue on why the traitor does what he/she does.
Dark Chirithy's purpose and plans are also still largely unknown, as is the mystery about who distributed the guilt bangles that started the whole mess in the first place.
Back Cover also added more "mouth-watering" and WTF-moments to the already big pile but again nothing concrete enough that would actually allow the audience to arrive at some definite conclusions.
I can see why people may get frustrated with the whole thing because there are only ever added more questions and mysteries, nothing being actually resolved or explained.
Add on top the whole issue with the confusion about what is actually happening, what is a dream and what an illusion and you eventually have people starting to give up because it gets too confusing in its entirety.
Union X-Cross so far also only added to the WTF-pile with some admittedly cheap moves like throwing in Ventus and Lauriam and then just having them there as eye candy with one or two lines for months, doing nothing with them, or introducing a completely new character only to have them removed somehow just one update later.
On top of all the above then furthermore comes the fact that the story is paced at such a rate that a snail may be considered a racing car in comparison, with almost countless meaningless filler episodes thrown in-between diluting the interest because by the time the next important story piece hits, most people have already largely forgotten the intricate details of the last one and even if the interest is rewakened, it will be diluted again because more filler will follow keeping the actual story on hiatus.
A friend came up with just a thought: what if Maleficent is involved in the Strelitzia affair?
It's just a thought and there is no proof of it, but I always thought: how did the assassin know about the Union Leaders plan? It seems really difficult that someone amongst the players could've caught wind of Ava nad the MoM's schemes.
Unless someone from the outside, who already had at least a basic knowledge of the events manipulated them.
"Hey kid, they're tricking you all and only 5 of you will be saved from complete annihilation: infiltrate them, get the Book and we'll share the rewards."
I mena, it doesn't seem completely impossible or out of Maleficent's way of doing things.
I mean... Maleficent used plant magic too.... Didn't she surround Aurora's castle with briars?
....smh at this rate basically every single damn thing about plants in KH could relate to Marluxia/Lauriam. What's next? It will be revealed his original union was Anguis and he will somehow get her keyblade? Because, y'know, it looks like THIS despite Invi herself never use plant magic and the other Foreteller's designs matched their special attack in the keyblade war?
I mean... Maleficent used plant magic too.... Didn't she surround Aurora's castle with briars?
....smh at this rate basically every single damn thing about plants in KH could relate to Marluxia/Lauriam.
I... wow I didn't even consider that.
I mean. I'm not going to be the "Nomura planned everything" guy, but both Marluxia and Maleficent do use thorns.
That could do for a neat small connection.
I... wow I didn't even consider that.
I mean. I'm not going to be the "Nomura planned everything" guy, but both Marluxia and Maleficent do use thorns.
That could do for a neat small connection.
That might be so, and you know who else had petals in their attack? Ava.
Back then in this forum (I forgot which thread, what I remember is the the OP of that post is AlphaBaymax ) there is a post analyzing Ava's special attack in the Keyblade War , that she could be related to Marluxia because of the petals in her attack and he's proven right now.
I don't think Nomura is planning everything already like Oda do, I think it's more like he's doing call backs/call forwards in that there's minor detail in previous games and then he remembered and inspired from it for something bigger in future games.
Regarding about something I think it has to do with the plot; "I've been having these wierd thoughts lately. Like if is any of this for real or not?" "Dreameaters, nightmares, the symbol when heartless and the Dark Chirithy merged, the side-effect of the bangles and a second dream it mention..." "Then the dreams, the sleeping keyholes, every single character that is unable to awake because of a missing part of their heart, the keyblade graveyard and the tides between each character..." "Lights of children rebuilding remaining pieces of the world, like some sort of wish, or dream." That being said, and a lot more other things that chain up, means that one of the sources of power that pushes things through, more than light or darkness, is the dream that every single fragment will fall into it's place one day, which means the sleeping keyholes of the worlds were actually, more than just an exam, eas actually part of awakening and recovering all of these worlds previously seen, such is the case of the worlds swallowed by the darkness, which Sora, a -born- child was -chosen- by the keyblade by an -"accidental"- fate, having him returning several lost worlds by stopping the -End of The World-, when, as well, -children- rebuilt what remained before it would've vanished forever, or maybe actually sent to do so, which means all the keyblade wielders gathered... and at last, the fact that it has a direct impact in what Kingdom Hearts turnrd out to be, and as far as we all know, Sora and others are not the only ones who can wield the keyblades, for instance Lea, and on the otger hand, the seen transformations of a place, C. Oblivion/C. Of the Land of Departure, where there were actual training keyblade wielders to depart on various tasks that were interrupted by a man that holds a Keyblade as an aprentice of another Keyblade wielder, an aprentice that was never chosen, but had a bigger role, and, the goat design on Xehanorts keyblade and what symbolizes (which is actually something really peculiar, having that it matches up with him and someone else I know about). Having all this said, if the True Kingdom Hearts is made of Light and all hearts return to it, where exactly do the hearts go? And what about the possibility of choosing where to start? Riku's words cleared up most of the doubt when he said; "why are we here? We could've easily ended up anywhere else.". I don't think that's all, and from what I xan confirm more than what I've seen, hearts don't exactly go into oblivion, they simple move into another body (possesion, rebirth, revival, refuge are a few examples of how the heart works in this universe shown), which is exactly why I got to suggest that Sora, as well as a bunch of other characters, aren't abscent to this rule. Concluding, not a single clue who the goddess refers to, even having highly-probable evidence, it doesn't cover thst much, but there's more story before back cover took place, I'm sure of it.
OMG! I just realized that Lauriam is Marluxia!
OMG! I just realized that Lauriam is Marluxia!
Sorry, I'm on the TWEWY hype train and really wanted to use this. XD
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