I am not sure about something, so I'd like to ask what you think! I'm not sure if this has been discussed already, but here we go.
Xemnas said in DDD that some of the Org members were growing hearts:
I think a lot of people seem to interpret this as meaning that some members like Axel etc actually had hearts. This does match with things like Axel's questions:
In the Japanese version (in FM+), he is actually asking Roxas whether he thinks Roxas, himself and Namine have hearts. You've also got the 'he made me feel like I had a heart' deathbed confession, as well as lots of non-canon hints in the game novels.
So, it's natural that some people seem to think that Axel grew a new heart of his own over the course of the games through his contact with friendship and with the warriors of light etc
However, an original being is brought back by killing the heartless and nobody, which we know from previous interviews as well as this quote:
So, if Axel grew a heart, then... what happened when he was reborn as Lea? If Axel grew a heart as a nobody, what happened to his/Lea's original heart that was in a heartless somewhere...?
My interpretation is that perhaps Axel and Roxas (and other Org members idk) did NOT have hearts of their own, they only had what Xemnas said: burgeoning hearts, budding hearts that were never fully realised. In fact, I think that perhaps bringing some of the hurting kids (Roxas, Namine, Xion?) back to their own fully realised existence will involve Sora helping those burgeoning hearts to grow into a full state:
That aside, Lea being brought back as Lea means that he no longer needs such help, right? He's already back as a complete being (with key-shaped perks to boot lol) So... if Axel was growing a heart, what happened to it? Did it simply merge with Lea's heart when the heart+body fused back together? 'Lea' seems to have both sets of memories, after all...
Is this just something we're not supposed to care about? Or am I missing a crucial detail?
Anyway idk this has probably already been talked about, I just... am a bit lost lol
Xemnas said in DDD that some of the Org members were growing hearts:
KH DDD said:Xemnas: A heart is never lost for good. There may have been variances in our dispositions, but a number of us unquestionably showed signs of a burgeoning replacement.
I think a lot of people seem to interpret this as meaning that some members like Axel etc actually had hearts. This does match with things like Axel's questions:
KH Days said:Axel: Roxas...are you really sure that you don't have a heart?
In the Japanese version (in FM+), he is actually asking Roxas whether he thinks Roxas, himself and Namine have hearts. You've also got the 'he made me feel like I had a heart' deathbed confession, as well as lots of non-canon hints in the game novels.
So, it's natural that some people seem to think that Axel grew a new heart of his own over the course of the games through his contact with friendship and with the warriors of light etc
However, an original being is brought back by killing the heartless and nobody, which we know from previous interviews as well as this quote:
KH Re:coded said:Yen Sid: Xehanort's heart, once seized by his Heartless half, is now free. And his body, which had become his Nobody, has been vanquished. Both halves will now be returned to the whole. In short...this means Master Xehanort will return.
So, if Axel grew a heart, then... what happened when he was reborn as Lea? If Axel grew a heart as a nobody, what happened to his/Lea's original heart that was in a heartless somewhere...?
My interpretation is that perhaps Axel and Roxas (and other Org members idk) did NOT have hearts of their own, they only had what Xemnas said: burgeoning hearts, budding hearts that were never fully realised. In fact, I think that perhaps bringing some of the hurting kids (Roxas, Namine, Xion?) back to their own fully realised existence will involve Sora helping those burgeoning hearts to grow into a full state:
KH DDD said:Ansem the Wise: Yes. A clue, I hope, to finding yourselves or your lost friends in your hour of need. The heart has always been quick to grow. Each exposure to light, to the natural world, to other people, shapes this most malleable part inside of us. Nobodies are not different from us in that manner. Sora was the only one able to return to his human form without destroying his Nobody. That is a statement to the love in his heart for other people, and the bonds that tie them together. Perhaps...he has the power to bring back the hearts and existences of those connected to him--to recreate people we thought were lost to us forever. Our most precious treasures--even an empty puppet--the trees of the forest, and the petals on the wind--there are hearts around us everywhere we look. And it does not take superhuman powers to see them. Surely we remember as children the way our hearts made everything seem so shiny, and perfect. Sora has a heart like that--uncorrupted, willing to see the good before the bad. When he sees the heart in something, it then becomes real. When a connection seems broken, he may have the power to mend it. He has touched countless hearts, he has accepted them, and he has saved them. And some of those hearts have never left him--whether they fell into darkness or were trapped there--whether they sleep in the darkness of Sora's heart, or were welcomed into its warmth--they can be saved. All Sora needs to do is be himself and follow wherever it is that his heart takes him. It is the best and the only way. The rest is in there.
That aside, Lea being brought back as Lea means that he no longer needs such help, right? He's already back as a complete being (with key-shaped perks to boot lol) So... if Axel was growing a heart, what happened to it? Did it simply merge with Lea's heart when the heart+body fused back together? 'Lea' seems to have both sets of memories, after all...
Is this just something we're not supposed to care about? Or am I missing a crucial detail?
Anyway idk this has probably already been talked about, I just... am a bit lost lol