Roxas is a nobody. He cant be anything else.maybe roxas isn't a nobody?
What i dont get is that a nobody is the left over empty shell. But since sora was reborn there shouldnt have been a shell left over.
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Roxas is a nobody. He cant be anything else.maybe roxas isn't a nobody?
What i dont get is that a nobody is the left over empty shell. But since sora was reborn there shouldnt have been a shell left over.
If that was true, then that would mean Xehanort had the power to wield nothingness, which is wrong. Xehanort had no powers, he simply seeked the darkness and thus he lost his heart.
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When he regained his form, his nobody was already born. Isn't he still a heartless then?
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Well at least it seems we all agree on one thing: Ven gave something to Sora, or a part of himself resides in Sora. Whether it's his heart, body, soul, mind, etc.
Ven's heart somehow being in Sora is pretty popular,(3) but I don't get why that would make Sora's nobody look like Ven.
Once Kairi brought him back from the darkness Sora was able to retain his form, but still remained as a heartless (until meeting Roxas). It's like how "Ansem" was in KH1; he was a heartless, but still retained his form.
*Twilight* said:When he regained his form, his nobody was already born. Isn't he still a heartless then?
*Twilight* said:From my understanding Sora lost his body+soul the moment he became a heartless, thus creating Roxas. Once Kairi brought him back from the darkness Sora was able to retain his form, but still remained as a heartless (until meeting Roxas). It's like how "Ansem" was in KH1; he was a heartless, but still retained his form.
when xehanort lost his heart he was a heartless with no form but gained back his form within the manifestation of Riku
AtW was referring to Sora's and Xehanort's ability to think clearly and with a purpose while they were Heartless. Neither Sora, nor Xehanort retained their form when Heartless. Xehanort lost the ability to manifest himself physically (which is why he possessed Riku), and Sora, being a being of very very little darkness, converted into a Shadow (the weakest of Heartless).
1) No, he was returned to his body, be it a replica, or a manifestation of his body created by Kairi's light to protect his heart from going into KH.
I'm about 99% sure that that is wrong. Sora is essentially a reverse-Heartless, to my understanding; he's a heart encased in pure light and goodness from Kairi's (being a PoH) Heart, thus shielding him from reverting to his wimpy little Heartless form.
2) No matter what argument you people put up you seem to forget that KH 1 & 2 were about Sora's growth and his character development; if any part of Ven resides within Sora it would detract from Sora's merits and originality significantly, thus lowering his standing from a Hero to just a tool.
I am going to restate my thesis. Sora techincal has Ven's Powers. He couldn't use them at the age he was blessed until he was 12. Roxas is part of Sora. Though he looks nothing like him, remember, Sora had the soul of Ven in him. Roxas does not have none of Sora's abilities, but has one of many that Ven had. The power to control two keyblades. (Is this adding up for anyone right now?). Roxas is Ven reincarnated!!!
Oh, and to add, Noobies are normally formed when Heartlesses are born right? And they also look like there former self right? Why do you think Sora and Roxas look totally different?
*If a light bulb is on top of your head, then you see my point.
darksephiroth00 said:What is everyone talking about??? How did we jump from Ven/Roxas/Sora to Xehenort!? We shouldn't even be talking about him cause he isn't anyone special. He is just some guy that stole an experiment from Ansem the Wise and pulled a Micheal Jackson on himself.
darksephiroth00 said:I am going to restate my thesis. Sora techincal has Ven's Powers. He couldn't use them at the age he was blessed until he was 12. Roxas is part of Sora. Though he looks nothing like him, remember, Sora had the soul of Ven in him. Roxas does not have none of Sora's abilities, but has one of many that Ven had. The power to control two keyblades. (Is this adding up for anyone right now?). Roxas is Ven reincarnated!!!
Oh, and to add, Noobies are normally formed when Heartlesses are born right? And they also look like there former self right? Why do you think Sora and Roxas look totally different?
*If a light bulb is on top of your head, then you see my point.
*Twilight* said:So you're saying Ven's soul, or a part of it, is inside Sora? I think it's very possible, and don't see any reason why it can't be true. Although I can say Namine and Kairi don't really look alike either.
Actually he is the main antagonist of the KH series.
Now why is it that the last time I posted that theory everyone rejected it? Anyway this sounds very possible. However, there is no evidence that Ven can wield two Keyblades.
Well, Sora did play a part in the creation of Namine, but I say they still look alike. Take a look.
Oh, and to add, Noobies are normally formed when Heartlesses are born right? And they also look like there former self right? Why do you think Sora and Roxas look totally different?
*If a light bulb is on top of your head, then you see my point.
When you mention difference and similarity in the same sentence, it becomes a contradiction (like saying 'same difference')Ugh, Nobodies are supposed to be similar, but different, from their original selves... kind of like a relative that looks a bit like you.
To put it simply, a Nobody has the same body as the Human, but with different coloring and different hair.
Read the Secret Ansem Reports!
When you mention difference and similarity in the same sentence, it becomes a contradiction (like saying 'same difference')
If you wanted to correct me, you should have said that a "STRONG" nobody has the appearance of its former self, while an average nobody looks nothing like its former self or a heartless. Xehenhort is a strong nobody with a strong heartless that had sort of the same look as his former self.
The point I was trying to make is that the body is the same, but the "little touches" were different. You clearly didn't get that from what I said, so you assumed I was contradicting myself.
Did you even read the rest of my post or did you assume it was useless banter?Sorry brother, but I didn't assume anything. You made a generalization of ALL Nobodies and I simply corrected you like you did me.
Example: if I were to here someone make a blunt statement about a certain race of people, I would flip on them unless it was narrowed down to one person (All Haitians stank vs. Yo, that kid right there stank). There is a difference, so next time simplify.